>FRICK YOU, SUPERMAN, HOW DARE YOU PUT DOOMSDAY IN THE PHANTOM ZONE? YOU SHOULD'VE SENT HIM TO ARKHAM SO HE COULD ESCAPE AND KILL MORE PEOPLE!
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>FRICK YOU, SUPERMAN, HOW DARE YOU PUT DOOMSDAY IN THE PHANTOM ZONE?
>SLIPPERY SLOPE SUPERMAN!! IF YOU KILL A GENOCIDAL MANIAC TODAY, TOMORROW YOU MIGHT KILL A BREAD THIEF BECAUSE YOU CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!
Why shouldn't bread thieves be killed anyway?
In the first world we dont kill for petty crimes.
/pol/gays are usually third world and brown so it's falling on deaf ears
its easy to support policy when you dont have to face the cost
>its easy to support policy when you dont have to face the cost
Que?
Are you saying it's easy to support criminalizing crime as long as you don't crime and thus become a criminal?
Is there a first world left?
What was his name again?
AND I'M JAVERT
Frenchie McCopson
terrible argument, anon
>batman's arc is seeing the similarities in their world and the justice lords'
>he lashes out because he thinks superman is going to turn out the same way
>season ends with superman looking like he's about to kill luthor
>wonder woman attempts to stop him but batman motions her to wait because he knows superman won't do it
>not only does superman get an arc overcoming the shadow of his justice lord counterpart but batman gets over his fear and learns to trust his friend
What's the problem?
>When the JL decide to hold themselves accountable and surrender to the government, Batman refuses
What a hypocrite
Batman v Government can be kino when written the right way. No wonder he doesn't trust them, seeing how they utterly and completely failed Gotham.
Also is there any point in watching this cartoon as a grown man. I acknowledge that i'm a fair bit moronic but not enough to consume stuff 100% made for children.
Accountability and government are literally opposite of each other so he was the only one right anyways.
Why don't superheroes just run for government then? If the government becomes full of incorruptible heroes, won't it be best for everyone? And then lower level heroes could join the police force to legalize themselves.
That's something only villains would do.
Heroes are meant to appeal to children and kids don't really want to run for office and handle the economy or social issues. They want to punch and kick baddies.
I wonder if Alfred takes care of the entire mansion by himself.
That's ultimately the finale to Moore's Miracleman. Ultimately it needs heroes to put their foot down and stage a coup. Which completely reframes the hero narrative and makes them an authority. Moore is pretty anti-authoritarian so he couldn't write a story like that full stop. Gaiman did but I don't think he really wanted to dwell on the political angle and his stories were more about the relationships.
Eh, I'd say it was just Moore reaaaaaaalllly wanting to stick it to Thatcher in some manner.
Great page.
Didn't the same thing happen in Jupiter's legacy, where they tried to run the economy and it all went to shit.
>INB4 It never gets finished
>superherocapeshit are for autoritarian and kid
>now look my politic selfinsert puting a finger on a strawman
Miracleman is framed as the fascist bad guy for this and literally the last panel is sympathising with the “strawman”
>it's less about being the best but having the most money and telling the best lies
>being a more public person with all your information known makes you an easier target
>you won't be able to be a superhero anymore
There have been various heroes that have been a politician. Usually it's an alternate world or something. There's a black Superman that's also the president. When Luthor was president in the comics he managed to not be evil until he went crazy from carrying kryptonite at all times. I think the female Manhunter was a politician.
He refused capture to convince Waller that Luthor was playing her. If he weren’t there Waller would not have started the events that led to Braniac’s resurgence, yadda yadda
>I told you this threesome was a stupid idea
>Neither of us demanded you be the in the middle...
>But now you'll never forget what you did to me, never forget how easy it is to lose control.
>Eh, that was controlled, in fact very controlled
>Yes Bruce, no one lost control, we told you the safe word was cinnamon and you didn't say it even once
>it was XYLOPHONE and you damn well know it, Clark!
Remember that time Batman trapped a guy in a time loop of his wife constantly nagging him?
How is that better than the Phantom Zone?
Better? The Phantom Zone sounds like heaven compared to that.
Reality was breaking apart and he had a split second to do something. It was either that or let him become a god.
I don't. When was that?
The episode where they meet Terry in the future
I think it's implied he wouldn't be stuck in the timeloop if he makes a different decision, but he can't help himself
Every time he goes back there's a flash of him realizing he's in a loop. He's stuck and unable to get out, aware of his situation for a split second.
Why would batman care about the phantom zone. Isn't it pretty much just a jail?
So, if Cadmus' problem with the JL was that they were a group of unaccountable gods that could do whatever they wanted
Who was Cadmus accountable to?
The glowBlack folk and israel like every other part of the federal gov
>quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Fricking speak real people language Moltar.
>no, you see, OUR neigh omnipotent god-force that can end all life on this miserable little mudball on the mereest of whims was ELECTED to that position
>day and fricking night, I'm telling you
I feel like JLU Lex wouldn't even be a bad president. No wonder he never tried to get the position seriously.
This is the exact issue I had with avengers civil war, gubmint avengers would be even harder to prosecute than as a private group
>This is the exact issue I had with avengers civil war, gubmint avengers would be even harder to prosecute than as a private group
Okay, but:
A. The Avengers would need permission from the govt overseers before they are allowed to get involved in conflicts, which may cause the problem to escalate if they are not there.
B. The Avengers would be forced to fight in geopolitical conflicts, for sides that are inherently wrong in the interests of National Security™.
C. The Avengers would be way more easy to prosecute. Govt accountability means they will be punished for anything for any reason, even if they did nothing wrong. Any bad guy could say "THE AVENGERS WERE MEAN TO ME" when they were stopping him from killing innocent people, & the courts & the general public would support him.
The Watchmen
%100 sure israelites dressed as Kirby's New Gods
Communication within the Phantom Zone is done so by telepathy. As the Phantom Zone exists outside of space/time, those within it are no longer subject to the rigors of age or illness, rendering them effectively immortal – and they also require no sleep, food or air.
So, I guess you insane from boredom?
They mostly occupy their times by coming up with schemes to get out or tormenting Mon-El
The idea was you get thrown in for a set amount of time, then they beam to back out once you've had time to think.about what you've done. Krypton exploding nixed that last part, so now everyone who was in there is stuck forever unless Kal let's them out, since he has the one set of keys left in the entire universe
>AN ETERNAL LIVING DEATH
The Phantom Zone is probably the most blatant example of economics-guided writing.
>Nooo we CAN'T kill this cool villain everyone looves
>Lets just put him into the literal standby zone and break him out whenever we have a story slot for him
>Lets do that to most everyone
I mean it's a genius idea since it's a Super Prison for when the villains are too strong for regular prison
that and the Darkseid eyes beam who don't kill people at all, just give them a time-out
Doomsday being locked in Arkham is one crowbar away from crowbarring everyone in Gotham away for life if he ever escapes. You don't want millions of Jason Todds on your hand now do you?
A BILLION CHILDREN WILL DIE IN CRIME ALLEY BEFORE I LET MY BOYFRIEND STAY IN JAIL
If you imprison Doomsday in the phantom zone you’ll be just as bad as he is.
Doomsday isn't really a bad guy though, just misunderstood. So it should be just fine for Superman to go wild. Another checkmate for moral relativism.
Is Cinemaphile really this stupid or is this just larping? I can't tell anymore