>friend asks me to watch TNG
>never had any interest in it but I'm willing to try
>promises it's the best thing ever
>start first episode
>strong opening, looks promising
>suddenly christopher columbus looking mother fricker shows up
>he has ice rays
>nobody cares
>everything just goes completely silly
>turn off the episode
Yeah, no thanks.
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Avoid all the Q episodes, they're shit. Feels like a remnant of the shitty old campy TOS-era.
That's because a lot of season 1 is in fact rejected TOS scripts, and anyone who's seen season 3 of TOS can imagine how bad a script would have to be to be rejected.
Rejected for technical reasons mostly.
I love Q episodes fite me.
Q is one of the best recurring characters and has some of the best episodes
What a pathetic opinion
>Avoid all the Q episodes
even Q Who?
have a nice day
>he doesn't know you skip the first 2 seasons, except Q Who
>skipping measure of a man
I was tempted to add it but I think PIC was so bad it's retroactively made me like that episode less
Q absolutely doesn't feel like a TOS character, the frick are you talking about
>TNG is the bestest show ever
>but only if you watch a certain few episodes and ignore most of it
OK senpai....
Watch 'The Offspring" from Season 3. It's fricking incredible.
tbh I watched "Inner Light" randomly as I was curious as it won a Hugo award. After that I started from the beginning and was not disappointed.
That was the first episode I ever saw as well
Honestly only Season 3 and 4 are really good.
What's the one were he gets his whistle/flute thingamabobber? Season 5? That's a great episode!
I was speaking of CPT Picard and it's Season 5 Episode 25, The Inner Light.
TNG has not aged very well.
The story of "The Inner Light" makes it clear that this society is many years earlier in development than even our current time, much less the time of TNG. They are only starting to fire rockets into space.
They only have a very basic space program, launching unmanned probes. But, they are able to have on board technology that can allow a beam of energy to get through a sophisticated shield system of a starship in the future that they could only imagine, get through the hull without damaging anything, and completely control (mind rape) someone's consciousness.
There's not a communicator in sight, any screens, or anything that would indicate much development beyond when Picard arrived. Even his telescope is an ungainly contraption, seemingly pulled together with whatever was at hand. Yet this society with apparently no personal communications, computers, or anything else can launch a probe into space with all this capability as well as power that can last 1000 years.
And this won an award for storytelling? Give me a break!
Because civilizations always make technological advancements in different fields equally? Is that even true on Earth?
I wish I could just knock nerds like you in the fricking jaw
You just don't understand how technological advancements work. It doesn't work like a tech tree from a game. It's entirely possible to discover advanced holographic technology before proper space travel. Actually that's the exact course we ourselves are heading towards. We still have no true planet hopping technology that lets us permanently escape and reproduce outside of our planet despite all the rockets we send into space. Before the time we can even truly self-sufficiently have a colony on the moon we'll probably have advanced VR tech that interfaces with our brain. Actually we probably already have the technology to do that (electrodes on head or surgically implanted on the brain that can make us see/hear things) but ethical concerns probably stop it from being adopted or developed widely.
I know it's a cliche but season 1 is dogshit, the show gets infinitely better after they figured out how they wanted to write it.
Even I didn't believe this when people told me but I went back and watched season 1 again and it's terrible. It's one of the best shows ever made but you have to forgive the few horrible episodes.
Season 1 is mostly bad, Season 2 is a bit better. The show really improves around Season 3.
Just go watch Darmok, it's a Season 5 episode. If you don't like it then don't bother watching the show
In my opinion season 7 is almost as bad as season 1. Apart from All Good Things and Lower Decks almost all episodes are terrible.
They were writing the last season of Tng and the first seasons of DS9 simultaneously right? Might be the reason why both suck.
>he has ice rays
>nobody cares
What the frick do you mean, they're immediately alarmed?
>everything just goes completely silly
If you refer to the courtroom scene. It's the most Kino part of the entire season when you get past Tasha's little melodrama. Q putting humanity to trial is fire.
It was tacky and stupid and ill fitting of any grounded decency.
TNG is overrated among Star Trek, DS9 and Voyager are both better overall, all things considered. Still a great show though
TNG is one of those shows that didnt hit its stride until later. Most people would agree season 3 is where it started to take off. Everything before that is pretty cheesy, despite being greenlit by Gene.
>Letting some autist on the internet tell you which episodes to watch
Viewing guides are for mindless npcs incapable of forming their own opinion. Watch the show and come up with your own thoughts.
>just watch 1000 bad episodes and 15 good ones because maybe you'll like one of the bad episodes and don't like one id the good episodes bro
what else do you have to do, if you get a season in and don't like it drop it, its up to you
It’s incredible to me that NPCs can actually think like this anon, and infuriating that so many morons like him now set the tone on Cinemaphile.
>tfw the DS9 guide is too large to post and I don't feel like resizing it
I've seen this and the TOS one.
Is there a Voyager one?
>that 11001001 row completely in binary
Thank god for autists who take the time to make stuff like this. Old Trek fanbase is best fanbase. I've found my people.
Yea, as others say, season 1+2 are crap. And though Q sucks in the first episode, he ends up great.
Maybe skip first 2 and come back later.
Your friend wasn't lying. It's quite literally the best American tv show ever made, with DS9 coming close.
But you have to watch the entire thing and it's carried really fricking hard by Sir Patrick Stewart, so he really does deserve all the accolades afforded to him. Dude is literally the Arnold Schwarzenegger of TV, except much more prolific and electic.
TNG season 1-2 were wonky because that hack Roddenberry was still alive
Season 1 and 2's worldbuilding is great though, even though much of it is discarded in the later seasons.
I actually prefer season 1 and 2's air of mystery and danger over some of the later seasons where the universe feels more mapped out and safe.
Q is great but start at season 4 and on, then go back if you like it
Avoid all the non-Q episodes, they're shit and not Star Trek.
People like you is why genocide should be legal.
Anyone else like the first season? I'm watching the show for the first time and it's really growing on me. I appreciate the straight-faced campiness and the utopian, bright, optimistic view of a secular humanist future. The cheese is part of the charm, as it was with season 1 of Buffy. I hope the show's vibe doesn't change too much in season 3 like you guys are implying.
it's not as casual, the story lines are deeper and it sets up DS9. there's still cheese in certain episodes but you'll notice a narrative change
i also like season 1 of TNG; it reminds me of TOS (though not as good).
season 3-5 of TNG is pretty much as good as star trek gets though
Nah, I think season one is okay, or at least not as bad as people say it is. It can be pretty dry, but dry isn't necessarily bad.
I actually like seasons 1 and 2 as much as I like what people call the best seasons.
Justice, We'll Always Have Paris, Conspiracy etc. Part of what I like are the set designs, lighting and overall 'mood' of that era's scifi/fantasy productions (Dark Crystal, etc).
TNG has some incredibly good moments, but DS9 is the overall much better show