what's your ideal live action DC slate to get everyone into the universe?
>Superman trilogy with Luthor, Metallo and Brainiac
>Batman: adaptations of ASBaR, Red Hood and Killing Joke where he kills the Joker because crippling Babs and abusing Gordon is just too much
>Wonder Woman adaptations of Amazons Attack & OMAC project so we know she doesn't have a no kill rule.
>Teen Titans vs Slade. same members as the TTG cartoon, action movie with a lighter tone, no grimdark shit.
>Flash of Two Worlds movie, lite copy of No Way Home.
>ends with a big team up for a crisis on infinite earths movie, everything gets rebooted, some people survive, introduce more characters
>adaptations of ASBaR
no
>crisis on infinite earths movie
You'll never have a good version, this shit needs at least a decade to set it up right
DC had the chance to do it. This year the DCEU turns 10, the same amount of time Marvel had between Iron Man and Infinity War. And all WB has to show for it is mostly terrible movies that didn't connect to the audience. Now they want to do another 10 year plan...with a partial reboot...in an era where these movies are getting less popular unless they have massive gimmicks (Tobey and Andrew coming back for Spider-Man)
It just sounds like you're coping. There are some comics storylines that are either severely overrated (TKJ, Crisis, etc) or just don't translate well to a cinematic medium
>Anon speaks truths about the shit show that is WB right now
>"sounds like you are coping"
fricking what?
If the CW can do a version of Crisis that worked with a budget of a ham sandwich, then DC Films has no excuse
Dude, what? The CW Crisis was total ass. Looked like a worse version of Power Rangers. The only good thing about it was Routh and his new suit. Shit was cash.
The attempt was there, now imagine that budget but way way more. It’s possible sperg.
Crisis had a lot more issues than the small budget, dude.
I'm not the anon you're arguing with but this is exactly why we're in this mess already. For some reason a lot of the DC movies are gun jumping to the big stuff. Second movie is Batman versus Superman AND Wonder Woman AND cameos with the rest of the league AND Death of Superman already. Flash, rather than getting a movie to build his character or using any of his other stories or any of the rogues, goes straight to Flashpoint. Imagine of the Green Lantern movie gets announced and it's War of Light/Blackest Night as the very first thing they do.
Leave COIE off the table and give people a reason to actually give a shit about ONE version of these characters before you start throwing the multiverse out there in a hail mary.
Are people this this thread brain dead? No one has said let’s start with it, we are saying it’s possible to make one. Christ.
Can’t call it Crisis on Infinite Earths on account of CW beating them on it. Just call it Infinite Crisis or just Crisis and adapt Final Crisis for the plot.
The attempt was proof why the CW should have stayed in their lane and not have wasted time on something so bombastic and dumb
It’s also proof as to why Marc Guggenheim ain’t getting any offers from the big leagues.
I'd rather they had chosen him than Tom King who has no tv/movie experience at all to write one of their tentpole films
I'd rather have aids than cancer, that doesn't make either good. Lesser of two evils-ism has rotted your brain
Guggy has a fanbase regardless of what you think of the CW stuff
Yeah, and McDonalds is a massive franchise. That doesn't mean I'd consider either good
McDonalds is great so pick a shittier restaurant like Arbys.
>Synderverse BUT WORSE IS WHAT I DEMAND!
I don't see why Gunn gets so much hate, his recent comic book shits been consistently great
It's Anons seething that someone left leaning got "cancelled" and rebounded over joke tweets from many years ago. So they pearl clutch and project. His movies are good, and its funny that someone who makes the shit he usually makes seems to get Superman more than WB does.
believe it or not some fans don't want their favorite characters to be reduced to Star-Lord manchild status.
You are assuming based on one property he worked on for Marvel. Wait till it comes out. The alternative was cluster frick we were and are still dealing with from last group. If it was so great and was working, we wouldn't be where we are now with a reboot. Christ Gunn lives rent free for gays like you.
>You are assuming based on one property he worked on for Marvel.
He also made Peacemaker, Vigilante, and Judo Master into manchildren.
>He made literally who's into entertaining characters!
as long as he keeps superman, superman then I don't care what he does with c and d listers.
OH ok! Well gee I guess you got me there...oh wait...*looks at that issue of Hitman with Superman in it*
>literally who's
every fricking time.
>and its funny that someone who makes the shit he usually makes seems to get Superman more than WB does.
Every director given this job claims to "get" Superman and only one person ever got it right back in the 70s. Gunn will be no different.
>"“Superman: Legacy tells the story of Superman’s journey to reconcile his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as Clark Kent of Smallville, Kansas. He is the embodiment of truth, justice, and the American way, guided by human kindness in a world that sees kindness as old-fashioned.”
I mean it sure as shit sounds more on point than Man of Mope from Synder.
>sounds more on point
Sure but it's lip service until we see the movie. And I'm going to puke if it's just Superman surrounded by characters doing Gunnisms which seems to be plan.
>which seems to be plan
Oh shit I didn't know you had access to the script, care to share?
I don't access to the script but Gunn said Superman will lead into The Authority, which are a team of superpowered buttholes, a concept Gunn really likes.
provide a source for that? I know he said he was doing the authority but I don't believe superman is directly connected to it. Just because the world he is crafting has buttholes in it, doesn't mean you should write the whole thing off. Take example this world, and you being in it.
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dc-universe-superman-legacy-batman-green-lantern-supergirl-booster-gold-1235507426/
>From global fame to relative obscurity, “Superman: Legacy” will lead directly into “The Authority,” an ensemble movie about superhumans who have a less-than-idealistic approach to saving the world.
Granted it's not a direct Gunn quote but he's as yet to contradict this report from variety
>Granted its not a direct quote
So its speculation until it comes out. Just wait until it comes out, don't seethe over it in mean time. I am not saying get hype, and I am not hyping it up for myself. I get discussion can and will occur before a thing comes out, but I don't understand the circle jerk dunking on something that isn't even being shot yet.
see
I responded don't worry
Oh wait, I found a direct quote from Gunn
> "Like taking teams like The Authority, which is I know is just as spectacular idea for a film that is completely different take on superheroes. Because it’s really connected to Superman. It’s about to use those well-known properties to help lead into lesser known properties,” says Gunn.
https://deadline.com/2023/01/dc-movie-tv-plan-james-gunn-peter-safran-batman-swamp-thing-green-lantern-1235244926/
My guess is The Authority is actually going to be a loose adaptation of Superman vs the Elite and possibly be what leads to the formation of the Justice League, to create a superhero team that's capable of doing better than just wanton brutality.
I like that idea
oh I'm sorry, all those characters were BOOMING in popularity prior to Peacemaker show. I saw kids playing with Judo Master action figures daily.
Makes sense since the Elite are a parody of the Authority. Since the Wildstorm characters got rolled into the DCU proper, it’d be a crime to not use the originals instead. Superman vs the Authority.
good for him, it's not like these movies are for the audience, right?
Feels like Gunn is using the Authority as an expy for Manchester Black and we're getting a "what's so funny about truth justice and the American way?" Adaptation
Roseanne Barr made a joke on twitter about a black politician looking like a monkey and got booted off of the reboot of her sitcom.
In response to this, Gunn tweeted "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" which means he's a marxist leftist sjw woke homosexual.
Then some literally who that made a career of hating sjws on twitter tried to dig up an old tweet Gunn made in his Troma days about pedophile priests, in order to go "LET'S CANCEL YOU AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT."
Cinemaphile, being where people beat dead horses and then jack off to the flies, has decided Gunn is persona non grata ever since that and will bend over backwards to hate him.
thanks gay I already explained it
>tried to dig up an old tweet Gunn made in his Troma days about pedophile priests,
Come on man, you KNOW that wasn't the only kind of questionable tweet he made. A lot of those pedo tweets were jokes about himself doing the raping
>Calling a black guy a monkey in the present day
>The same thing as making edgy tweets years before it was socially unacceptable
Gunn was right and you're a moron
I think the biggest thing that drove and still drives me up the wall is people on fricking Cinemaphile throwing shit fits over it. We all at one time or another said edgy stupid shit that we have grown out of. The difference between the two situations was a grown ass old woman making a racist joke and should know better not to. As opposed to edge jokes dude made YEARS prior and was not currently doing at the time and seemingly has grown out of.
>Roseanne Barr made a joke on twitter about a black politician looking like a monkey and got booted off of the reboot of her sitcom.
>In response to this, Gunn tweeted "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"
By his own logic James Gunn deserved to be fired.
>which means he's a marxist leftist sjw woke homosexual. Then some literally who that made a career of hating sjws on twitter tried to dig up an old tweet Gunn made in his Troma days about pedophile priests, in order to go "LET'S CANCEL YOU AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT."
He defended cancel culture multiple times until it happened to him. Stop sucking corporate dick.
>Cinemaphile, being where people beat dead horses and then jack off to the flies, has decided Gunn is persona non grata ever since that and will bend over backwards to hate him.
Touch grass Reddit. James Gunn got a taste of his own medicine. You homosexuals will turn in him again just like Justin Roiland.
Dumbass, the issue here is saying that type of shit NOW. Back in the 2000s, it was A-okay to be edgy since that was the in-thing at the time. Now it isn't and saying racist shit WILL get you in hot water whether you're joking or not. That's the fricking problem here. She went and did dumb shit for no reason. Could have just called the other person an butthole or just not say anything at all.
I can see restore the Synderverse poos already damage controlling James Gunn long history of advocating cancel culture. Videos related.
Seriously how and why does Zack Synder have a literal Hindu cult worshipping him in India?
He’s kinda overrated even though I like his work. He doesn’t have successful film outside of the MCU, Coogler had Creed, Watiti had Jojo Rabbit and Derrickson had Sinister.
he wrote that dawn of the dead remake that was wildly popular lol, he was fixing Synder shit even then. I promise if Synder had written that movie it would have sucked...oh wait we have that netflix army of the dead movie we can look at as proof.
>Wonder Woman adaptations of Amazons Attack
A deadly Amazonian bee weapon.
Bees. My God.
While I don't have an entire slate planned out. I do have a complete idea of what I'd want to do with Batman. To me the dynamic of Batman and Robin is way more interesting then loner Batman. In my dream trilogy I'd want to explore Bruce and Dick's relationship. With both acting as main characters in a fricked up father and son dynamic. Seeing their rise as the dynamic duo. To the fall when Dick realizing that being around Bruce isn't healthy. Inbtween all this I'd throw in a Teen Titans film to show Dick gaining that needs for independence.
its good thing Gunn is already doing something like that, sure its with Damien but I would be SHOCKED if they didn't address Dick and Bruce's relationship in it.
the inclusion of Damian killed my interest in this reboot.
different strokes I suppose, I like Damien, and I love Nightwing. I get best of both worlds. I forsee comfy Batfamily movie with grump well meaning Batdad...sounds good to me at least what I am painting in my head.
Is Nightwing even in it? Gunn said his Batman is 30.
he's come out and said thats speculation, he hasn't provided his age range. I am assuming he is going to be late 30's.
Sequel post with other idea I have for a trilogy. But I'd love for a GL trilogy that shows the rise and fall of Hal Jordan. From wide eyed rookie who's slowly broken over time into a damaged veteran who kills the Corps he believed in.
>it's a tear down Bruce while propping up Dick who's a perfect Gary Stu who's incapable of doing anything wrong because he's so pure episode
Lame
If they need a diversity rep to be the 7th remember then imo Shilo Norman makes more sense than Cyborg. Just write him like the Morrison story where he’s connected to a dead world he can’t quite remember
I'd use John Stewart but in the Green Lantern solo movie I'd have the after credit scene showing Hal is actually alive but imprisoned by Sinestro
I, Vampire
It is a direct continuation of The Suicide Squad(2020) and Peacemaker, so technically those are the first two installments of my universe. The rest are as follows:
>The Calculator
Noah Kuttler is a down trotted supervillain wannabe who finally gets the fame he desperately desires after he (accidentally) kills The Joker. However it's a heavy price as he's now the #1 targeted criminal. Batman is convinced The Calculator is the one behind a horrible terrorist plot he's been uncovering.
>Peacemaker Returns
Direct sequel to the show. Peacemaker is called back into action when revelations are made that a different monster from the Project Starfish incident was set loose and has been on a violent rampage ever since. He must battle his hallucinations of his dead dad and deepest personal issues to face up against this new monster. Ending scene is him bumping into the calculator while in a grocery store
> post credits scene:
Peacemaker and Calculator are drinking beer, smoking weed, and partaking in general debauchery with various women. However an assassin unexpectedly attacks them. Peacemaker shoots them in the "no no square" in a drunken stupor. They demand answers and the assailant reveals they're part of "Operation Checkmate" before dying which leads to...
>The Suicide Squad: Operation Checkmate
Former Task Force X members and anyone formerly associated with them are being hunted down and killed left and right. Amanda Waller is facing extreme criminal charges that can put her away for life. She wants 0 people available to testify against her and has deployed a secretive "Operation Checkmate" to deal with all the people who know too much. All former members must team up, settler their grudges and figure out what this Operation Checkmate is and who is next. They find out Bruce Wayne is one of CM's next targets, for some reason...
>Post credit scene teases The Legion Of Doom as the big bads they have to worry about for phase 2
Wave 1:
Superman. He makes his debut and battles Metallo who is created by Lex Luthor. The birth of the modern superhero, the first since the JSA in World War 2.
Batman: Batman clears out the mob, but in the process gives rise to the Joker, the first modern supervillain.
Wonder Woman: Myth and magic returns to the world of man. Wonder Woman has to stop Circe from ushering in a new dark age ruled by Gods.
Flash: The new age of super science, and what it means for mankind. Villain is Gorilla Grodd, who has been twisted and experimented on by STAR Labs and desires revenge against humanity with an army of apes.
Green Lantern. John Stewart unwillingly becomes Earth's emissary to the larger universal community and must advocate for them when Mongul signals his intent to butcher the planet for his own ends.
Justice League: Goaded on by Joker, Lex Luthor forms the Secret Society. Superman and Batman scramble to rally the heroes of the rest of Wave 1 in a battle that will define the future of humanity.
Tentative Wave 2:
Aquaman
Teen Titans
Wonder Woman 2 with Zatanna
Just had a thought.
KEEP VILLAINS ALIVE, unlike Marvel. Three or four waves in, the Secret Society outnumbers the Justice League four to one. Dr. Sivana and Mr. Mind stage a coup against Lex and reform the Secret Society as the Monster Society.
I have no good answer but, goddamn, he's got his work cut out for if he wants to win the audience back. Average people who don't pay attention to this are going to be confused as frick if you don't do it correctly.
>he likes the shittiest Batman comics
entry-level at its finest
>All star Batman and Robin
>Entry level
I can't name a single casual comic reader I've ever met that has read that comic. The only people who read it are people doing so out of hate reading/irony.
Full reboot, recast everyone. Other than Superman and Batman, don't repeat shit we've seen recently. DC has more characters than the Justice League. Also Phase One should focus on Superman and not sideline him.
Superman movie
Batman show
JSA movie set in 40's
Green Lantern show
Legion of Superheroes movie
The Demon movie
Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen show
Firestorm movie
Secret Six show
Supergirl movie
Human Target show
Time Masters show
Superman II
>crisis on infinite earths movie
Cast him
>Batman: adaptations of ASBaR, Red Hood and Killing Joke where he kills the Joker because crippling Babs and abusing Gordon is just too much
>Wonder Woman adaptations of Amazons Attack & OMAC project so we know she doesn't have a no kill rule.
God, I hate killgays.
>superman, batman, flash, wonder woman, and green lantern films to start things off
>green lantern has the manhunters/larfleeze/evil star or someone like that
>superman movies villain is parasite
>justice league movie against brainiac
>superman discovers kandor but with no kryptonians
>blows up brainiacs skull ship
>luthor uses it to turn the public partially against superman
>post credits scene shows kalibak going through brainiacs ruins for the antilife equation
>sequels that introduce other heroes
>sequel to justice league has the legion of doom as the baddies with some of the previous movies villains
Thats all ive thought of, but it would be nice to have a new gods movie or something in there too.
Gunn needs to cast Sydney Sweeney as Powergirl
No.
Gunnpedos need to be placed between a wall and a firing squad.
>Superman movie (not unlike Superman: Legacy)
>Batman & Robin movie (again, we're already getting this)
>Wonder Woman movie set in the modern day (can't believe we haven't gotten one yet)
>The Flash movie (non-groomer edition)
Green Lantern movie (either Stewart, Mullein, or Cruz)
>Aquaman movie (one where Arthur and Mera actually have chemistry, please)
>Vixen movie
>Zatanna movie
>Justice League
I'll be waiting for my cheque in the mail WB
Smartest line-up of films ITT. Good job, fren. However, I'm gonna tell you what a producer would say if your post is what they were given.
1. We're uncertain if a Vixen film can hold its own. Who else will you include in her story? Maybe we should make her co-star with Zatanna and really hone-in a super-heroine buddy-cop movie. Either way, we'd want Justice League to come out before these two star in a venture as top-billing. That way, we should have more money to lose if introducing lesser-known super-heroes costs us more than we'd like it to.
2. As satisfied as we were with our Aquaman film starring Jason Mamoa, we don't know if we've enough good will with audiences to see another retelling of Aquaman and Mera's first encounter all over again, regardless of if its a retold origin story or in media res. Perhaps we could slide an introduction to Atlantis in the Wonder Woman movie?
3. We are scared of Green Lantern. We don't get it, we don't like it, and we think it's risky. It's too expensvive for a mini-series, too expansive for a single movie, and too nerdy for even "casual" geekster audiences to want to dive into. On top of this, every other televison or cinematic venture of the Green Lantern ip has failed us tremendously, we feel. Let's hold this one off until we're really sure.
Now imagine fifteen more questions in an e-mail. Not too hard to work around if you're trying to make these movies, right? Well, then you have 12 other brain-dead and out-of-touch elitists producers who've been doing this since the 90's with more e-mail with similar dozens of questions. That's how Warner Brothers keeps fricking up over and over again. That's how shitty line-ups keep happening.
>We are scared of Green Lantern. We don't get it, we don't like it, and we think it's risky.
We actually are getting a Lantern show under Gunn though
Shit, I forgot about that. Still, it'd taken them to this point to go through with it, and making it like True Detective is in attempt to make it digestible. Not that this is a bad thing!
Here's hoping they mean S1 with the literary references to vague cosmic horrors creeping in at the corners as the leads try to untangle the mystery of the murder cult at Carcosa. And not, you know, just using it as a short hand for detective fiction.
They used art from GL: Earth One to promote it. They might draw from that for the show.
Gunn cited the New Frontier as one the comics they're taking inspiration for the DCU so my theory is that the terrifying mystery that Hal and Stewart are going to investigate in Lanterns is going to be The Center.
Green Lantern is getting a True Detective-style series on HBO Max with both John and Hal as the leads.
get ready to see Hal Jordan dance like a moron.
his inability to take anything seriously is endearing!
>Never uses Gunn
>Superman movie
>Batman and Robin (Dick Grayson) movie
>Wonder Woman movie
>Green Lantern show
>Flash show
>Aquaman show
No origin stories, JL is already established and they all know each other its just about everyone dealing with their individual problems.
Thats my first slate I guess beyond that if its successful then start adding more characters
>Flash show
We just had one of these. It sucked.
what I was implying was a replacement Flash show that isn't bad, ideally just shit can CW for good
Flash is too big for tv. He works better for summer blockbusters. Give some other character a show.
I dont think Flash is that popular, I just wanted the trinity to have the big budget movies while Green Lantern, Aquman and Flash who are less popular get to be more fleshed out as characters and people get more familiar with them and their supporting cast over time in a show format
if I was choosing based off who fits having a show or movie then I would've given Batman a show because all we ever get is one where he is either dead or absent
Flash and Aquaman are way too CGI heavy to do as TV shows without it looking terrible.
Wasn't GL: Earth One set on OA? They said the TV show will be set on Earth.
Although not a fan, flash was objectively pretty fricking decent as a tv show before they dropped the ball so I beg to differ. And a new flash series is gonna have a much bigger budget with a lot less episodes.
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman is all you need for movies with a JL event being theatrical, everyone else should just stick to streaming at best
I hate the oversaturation of giving every character a series or movie then sloppily trying to glue it all together like what the MCU is doing so I would make DC the opposite of that
Only focus on JL members people know while everyone else can be a cameo or pointing red arrow at circle easter egg reference
Nicolas Cage as Mullet Superman.
I would start with Justice League and Teen Titans movies. The whole “you need build up is dumb”. The Avengers was the first MCU they say for most people. BVS and JL failed because they were bad. The Genre is already saturated no one is going to bother waiting. As for Titans, it’s the perfect time to cash in on the nostalgia for 2000s series and the GO! for Zoomers. I would also do characters the DCEU didn’t focus on or didn’t use like Superman, Green Lantern, Zatanna, Constantine, Green Arrow, an actual Flash movie (starring Wally) and characters with huge potential like Vixen, Static and the New Gods. Wonder Woman gets a reboot movie later on, Batman only appears in JL movies to not hurt the Reeves films and people aren’t going to watch an Aquaman movie without Momoa or Wan so there’s no point using him.
>Teen Titans vs Slade. same members as the TTG cartoon, action movie with a lighter tone, no grimdark shit.[/spoiler]
Starfire better be actually orange and beautiful this time and keep the origin story
I want a Metropolitan Man adaptation.
>not grimdark shit
>with fricking Desthstroke
lmao
Also frick Hollywood I have no desire for any Cinemaphile adaptations at all.
trilogy with Luthor, Metallo and Brainiac
lame
: adaptations of ASBaR, Red Hood and Killing Joke where he kills the Joker because crippling Babs and abusing Gordon is just too much
lame
who fricking cares, these movies aren't going to be good no matter who the frick makes them, you should be grateful you have someone who gives at least half a shit like Gunn, shit could and has been worse
>Gunn
If I wanted soulless whedon quipping I would have watched MCU shit, you moronic mongrel.
Snyderverse > whatever garbage this MCU drone shits out
DUDE QUIPS LMAO
Grow up.
Grow up.
>you should appreciate the fact that gunn cares enough about superman to shit on his face
mf really?
Well his Superman is into that, so Gunn is doing him a favor!
Constantine show- presents numerous magic characters
Batman movie with clayface. Detective work
Green lanterns show but it is only partially woke, presents many space characters
The authority
Space cabby animated series
Plastic man movie
All star superman
Maybe with both clayfaces
good mornings sirs
>and Killing Joke where he kills the Joker
you should have a nice day
kill the bastard and be done with it. good place to retire the mantle.
>adaptation of ASBaR
>"I know how to start a new universe, let's adapt one of the absolute worst, most confusing and total character assassination comics ever written. That'll get everyone on board."
Your the same Cult of Snyder butthole who thought that smushing 2 ending stories for characters together and trying to make it work as an origin story was a work of genius?
mainstream audiences and the snydercult desperately need to see Batman as the scumbag he is. that's ASBaR, baby. it also has a good ending for a even a standalone movie.
Never read it but i'm surprised they let Robin keep the booty shorts