ppl here liked it as well, until everyone else did and then they felt the impulse to be contrarians. dont listen to contrarians, they just want attention
Then how come when I retreat into older stuff that is new to me I consistently enjoy things more than new stuff that just pisses me off? You act like you know so much but youre probably just projecting how you have felt jaded.
It reminds me of what Katy t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m would be if it were in movie form. The humor is too try hard "random". It is glaringly obvious it is propaganda aimed at older western asians who aren't assimilating to globohomo fast enough. With that in mind it also makes sense why it would win so many ~~*awards*~~.
Too goofy. Feels like a movie made for teenagers. Something like American Pie. The struggles are clouded in silliness to the point that you can't even relate to the character. In comparison, a movie like don't look up has the right amount of satire and the right amount of seriousness. There's clear escalation btn when seriousness fails and when goofyness sets in as a replacement. This movie has no border, it's just silliness from the start. Can't do your taxes, ok, I'll save you with this stupid multi-verse trope. Then I'll delay the gay struggle till the end and reintroduce the multi-verse trope to make it a believable struggle. I'm more inclined to relate to the mothers struggle with her father than the zoomers struggle with her gayness. That's the most real relationship in this movie.
The message is if you want to be a cool older asian then get with the time gramps! Gay is cool!
Plot twist: Grandpa is cool with her being gay SAY WHAT!?!?!?!
The point is the family nearly self-destructed simply because they were too caught up in their own individual lives to actually communciate with each other.
I just finished watching a bunch of BTS videos and I seriously understand why this won best picture now. Definitely a huge achievement in filmmaking. I cannot believe their entire vfx team was only 7 people who learned all their stuff from YouTube. Especially in current day when everything is 1500 vfx poojeets at marvel
I liked it too, simply because it was something new that wasn't just a rehash, capeshit or a sequel.
I have nothing against the new Top Gun movie, it was quite decent but as a whole, I'd like to see something new
There's a bit where Curtis' nipples are diamond hard in a scene or two. I became hyper focused on the idea that there's some reality where she has Oscar Mayer wiener nipples.
>this shit got 7 oscars
Unreal. 4 more oscars, and it would've tied for Return of the King and Ben-Hur, both far far far better films.
I think we're reaching Crash levels of catastrophe with this shit, 7-folds.
Why was the creator of this movie obsessed with lesbianism? And was there a part of the universe where her daughter was straight and lived happily ever after or what she doomed to being an angsty lesbo in every single world?
there's three mentions of the daughter being a lesbian. Once at the beginning, once in the first half of the ending, and in the last half of the ending. two of those times its just said in conversation, and the other it's a joke. Why are you obsessed with insisting the whole movie was about carpet munchers
really? all i remember when i watched it was the sausage finger lesbians and the daughter is a lesbo and the grandpa is an oldschool straightlord who hates new stuff
Two men stuck dildos on their asses
Noone wants to see that shit
I don't wanted to see that shit
My gf didn't like it either, women don't like men stuffing shit on their asses
That's 100% for gay people
Just the latest and greatest of current thing things. Lesbianism and domestic violence go hand-in-hand and the entire "sexuality" is beset on all sides by contradiction. Not that I care, despite the best gnomish efforts, there's plenty of bubbly bio girls that aren't psychiatrically doomed to a childless future.
I can't wait until we get another Family Guy tier show that rips apart these over-hyped movies. You just know in 10 years everyone is going to collectively cringe over the "capeshit" fad, too. Plus it will cycle back and gays will be offended they were used as a gimmick to most businesses. They're never satisfied.
older things will always be better than new through sheer numbers
even for something comparatively recent like movies, you're still looking at like 100 years of filmmaking compared to 1 when you're talking about old vs new
it's like survivorship bias. they've already stood the test of time
it's mostly due to the older stuff actually being experimental and what allowed the new stuff to exist, even when a good film gets released nowadays I can already tell where it got its influence from
It was pretty fucking gay. Nothing that hasn't already been done before. It's like a New Yorker did LSD once before getting his ass blown out and then used garden gnome funds to make a flick.
This whole bullshit meme where women pretend to be lesbians and this is somehow a take that to men as if they are like "treat us better or we start fucking women" is so cringe, i say go ahead, fuck women if that';s what you want to do you stupid whores.
Watched it last night, it was one of the most reddit, rick and morty lolsurandom movie I have ever seen,
I still got 30min left
If you like Rick and morty, and adventure time style of random shit happening all the time you will like this movie
If you have more that 4 braincells you won't
The first 10 minutes was a complete mess. I couldn't understand the dialogue, the broken accent, the constant switch between english and chinese. Why? Chaotic in order to be chaotic? It just felt amateurish. Instead of engaging the audience I was put off. And the movie went through a lot only to point out that a family member is a unit in the family. The message felt rather misguidedsince it was about accepting your only child being lesbic (lessening the chance of reproducing).
The movie wasn't as funny either. It was like a Stephen Chow movie but more awkward, less refined and less emotional. The jokes lacked depth, were too much in your face and insultingly childish (farts and hot dogs). The action was alright and innovative, would like to have seen more of wizards duelign with clown-magic but the final fight was subpar, a hug instead of a big bombastic explosion. The acting by JLC and her character was perhaps the best, too bad she didn't get the chance to be the monster that she was hyped up to be in the beginning.
they're being audited by the IRS which is enough to throw any adult into a panic but Evelyn has to balance that with throwing a party for her patrons, her daughter hating her, her husband wanting to divorce her and her dad piling expectations on her. it's obviously being played as chaotic and stressful and not something easily processable from both her perspective and a viewer's perspective. the movie's title literally points to maximalism and the intro rolls with that by being overwhelming. so it's probably not just that you're old just dumb if that's a point of contention
>audited by the IRS
Maybe don't buy fucking trash, that's exactly what the irs lady pointed out >daugther hating her
That's not what the film portrays, it only shows her dissapointment and the kid failing to meet normal standars (don't be fucking gay) and that's all spewed as "my dad won't like it, it's never hinted as her not being somewhat ok with it >divorce
That happen after the irs stuff
what does this moralism bullshit have to do with the intro being intentionally chaotic from a filmmaking perspective? I don't care about your opinion on their choices, I'm listing why it wasn't [Chaotic in order to be chaotic], it was chaotic because the protag's relations were straining her from every direction
>pay no attention to husband, already relegates job for him. Don't wake up dad, paint ceiling, do your job >Wakes dad, use wrong paint, disrupt workflow changing the shirt >Daugther needs to be ther to translate for irs and nothing more, and don't bring up being a fag to her dad. Shows up with gf, later bails out.
Her "chaotics life" is nothing more than everyone else not doing their jobs.
what does this moralism bullshit have to do with the intro being intentionally chaotic from a filmmaking perspective? I don't care about your opinion on their choices, I'm listing why it wasn't [Chaotic in order to be chaotic], it was chaotic because the protag's relations were straining her from every direction
It was chaotic because they constantly shifted languages, made multiple fast edits, forced the audience to focus on details, remember certain aspects, introduced characters without giving any background info of them. I know this all came afterwards, I just felt it was amateurish. Chaotic for the sake of being chaotic.
>not something easily processable from both her perspective and a viewer's perspective
This is what I don't get. How do you just happen in that state. She did no drugs. She wasn't stupid. I mean, in another parallell universe she was a nobel prize winner and a computer tech savant.
And like
>audited by the IRS
Maybe don't buy fucking trash, that's exactly what the irs lady pointed out >daugther hating her
That's not what the film portrays, it only shows her dissapointment and the kid failing to meet normal standars (don't be fucking gay) and that's all spewed as "my dad won't like it, it's never hinted as her not being somewhat ok with it >divorce
That happen after the irs stuff
said. The whole audited by the IRS is a dumb excuse when they point out in the movie that she set herself up to it. It was a mess because they wanted it to be a mess.
Compare the intro to Groundhog Day. A movie with a similar theme. But this one takes the time and introduces you to everything in a solid pace. I does not feel the need to be chaotic just to demonstrate that you can confuse your audience. Everything Everywhere All at Once does that. It wants to confuse the audience, because the producers knows that the base story can't hold it on its own.
>How do you just happen in that state.
Word of god from the creators is that she has undiagnosed ADHD, and they ended up writing this character with that in mind after researching it so it's one of those things where you can either take it or leave it. Those other universes are also those where her life took more "correct" paths. It's explicitly said her laundry and taxes universe is the one where she's a loser that basically did everything "wrong".
> basically did everything "wrong".
did you buy that? owning a washing machine business is the worsest imaginable?
yeah, I don't fucking get that either. she was born in china ffs. are you telling me there were no path for her to be a toilet for some arabian sheik?
that's another problem. at least groundhog day explored suicide and fucking every stacy around
In an infinite multiverse no not really because it necessarily opens up versions of yourself that would be homeless and drugged up or kept as a torture trophy chained up in some serial killer's basement. I didn't accept it logically but it's not going to bother me narratively because I understand what it's getting at. It's easy for me to suspend disbelief here because anything that enters speculative fiction territory enters territory where it's hard to be infallible unless you're doing hard sci-fi with enclosed systems like Primer
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>but it's not going to bother me narratively because I understand what it's getting at.
but doesn't that make the movie less great?
should not narration aim to be coherent? is it not chaotic to just ignore logic?
Every scene:
-preachy earnest life lesson dialogue
-kung fu dance coreography
-jump to new random location
-repeat for 2 hours.
I agree it's technically impressive but how did you not get sick of almost the same thing happening with the same result over and over?
I mentally checked out by the halfway point because literally every scene is just the mom doing her thing and you know in the ending it will all be ok, since it's such a safe and mainstream movie.
We were told the stakes but it never felt like they were real or mattered.
most everyone did. only retards hate the movie
It's ok but its cringey as fuck
That's the spirit!
ppl here liked it as well, until everyone else did and then they felt the impulse to be contrarians. dont listen to contrarians, they just want attention
No they didn't
No, it was regarded as a reddit movie from the very beginning.
you just came late the discussion
Fuck off
>ppl
what the fuck are you a 12 year old in a chat room in 2001?
I wish it was 2001 and not 2023. At least I would be enjoying life.
Too many people here have become way too jaded from hard years of shitposting
extremely vocal minority
unable to find joy in pretty much anything
Then how come when I retreat into older stuff that is new to me I consistently enjoy things more than new stuff that just pisses me off? You act like you know so much but youre probably just projecting how you have felt jaded.
ngl I thought yeoh taking two hotdogs in her mouth was pretty hot
You're in the minority, but that's okay.
How did you get thru it? I tried watching it on 2 separate occasions and had to shut it off
This
I simply watched about 25 minutes of it and then extrapolated out from there and its like I have watched it.
It reminds me of what Katy t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m would be if it were in movie form. The humor is too try hard "random". It is glaringly obvious it is propaganda aimed at older western asians who aren't assimilating to globohomo fast enough. With that in mind it also makes sense why it would win so many ~~*awards*~~.
It's Turning Red for Gen-X Asians. New age shite philosophy that makes you feel panderer to the entire duration.
Too goofy. Feels like a movie made for teenagers. Something like American Pie. The struggles are clouded in silliness to the point that you can't even relate to the character. In comparison, a movie like don't look up has the right amount of satire and the right amount of seriousness. There's clear escalation btn when seriousness fails and when goofyness sets in as a replacement. This movie has no border, it's just silliness from the start. Can't do your taxes, ok, I'll save you with this stupid multi-verse trope. Then I'll delay the gay struggle till the end and reintroduce the multi-verse trope to make it a believable struggle. I'm more inclined to relate to the mothers struggle with her father than the zoomers struggle with her gayness. That's the most real relationship in this movie.
The message isn't "let your daughter be a lesbian" or "be gay", it's "family is cool, don't disown your kids"
Nobody was ever disowned. The daughter was leaving of her own choice while the mother begged her not to.
>Nobody was ever disowned
Evelyn was.
Taking people away from their family is imperative for subverting them.
The message is if you want to be a cool older asian then get with the time gramps! Gay is cool!
Plot twist: Grandpa is cool with her being gay SAY WHAT!?!?!?!
The point is the family nearly self-destructed simply because they were too caught up in their own individual lives to actually communciate with each other.
I just finished watching a bunch of BTS videos and I seriously understand why this won best picture now. Definitely a huge achievement in filmmaking. I cannot believe their entire vfx team was only 7 people who learned all their stuff from YouTube. Especially in current day when everything is 1500 vfx poojeets at marvel
i liked the movie but i can't get into the sausage fingers, that was too weird.
Same. Gets a bit overindulgent by the end but it's a good movie.
Would've been great without the weird asian humour.
I liked it too, simply because it was something new that wasn't just a rehash, capeshit or a sequel.
I have nothing against the new Top Gun movie, it was quite decent but as a whole, I'd like to see something new
There's a bit where Curtis' nipples are diamond hard in a scene or two. I became hyper focused on the idea that there's some reality where she has Oscar Mayer wiener nipples.
And now I'm diamonds again
>this shit got 7 oscars
Unreal. 4 more oscars, and it would've tied for Return of the King and Ben-Hur, both far far far better films.
I think we're reaching Crash levels of catastrophe with this shit, 7-folds.
7 is way to many its good even if its very reddit i liked it but 7 oscars rofl holy shit
another one unaware that chinks rule oscars now?
Why was the creator of this movie obsessed with lesbianism? And was there a part of the universe where her daughter was straight and lived happily ever after or what she doomed to being an angsty lesbo in every single world?
>t. Didn't watch the movie
"You're mad because your daughter likes GIRLS in this universe?!"
there's three mentions of the daughter being a lesbian. Once at the beginning, once in the first half of the ending, and in the last half of the ending. two of those times its just said in conversation, and the other it's a joke. Why are you obsessed with insisting the whole movie was about carpet munchers
really? all i remember when i watched it was the sausage finger lesbians and the daughter is a lesbo and the grandpa is an oldschool straightlord who hates new stuff
Two men stuck dildos on their asses
Noone wants to see that shit
I don't wanted to see that shit
My gf didn't like it either, women don't like men stuffing shit on their asses
That's 100% for gay people
Just the latest and greatest of current thing things. Lesbianism and domestic violence go hand-in-hand and the entire "sexuality" is beset on all sides by contradiction. Not that I care, despite the best gnomish efforts, there's plenty of bubbly bio girls that aren't psychiatrically doomed to a childless future.
I can't wait until we get another Family Guy tier show that rips apart these over-hyped movies. You just know in 10 years everyone is going to collectively cringe over the "capeshit" fad, too. Plus it will cycle back and gays will be offended they were used as a gimmick to most businesses. They're never satisfied.
older things will always be better than new through sheer numbers
even for something comparatively recent like movies, you're still looking at like 100 years of filmmaking compared to 1 when you're talking about old vs new
it's like survivorship bias. they've already stood the test of time
it's mostly due to the older stuff actually being experimental and what allowed the new stuff to exist, even when a good film gets released nowadays I can already tell where it got its influence from
Here's your le upvote!
This shit was fun as fuck to be honest.
I really liked Short round in it too
le hotdog fingers
It was pretty fucking gay. Nothing that hasn't already been done before. It's like a New Yorker did LSD once before getting his ass blown out and then used garden gnome funds to make a flick.
>Not seeing the writer/director baldy getting lead by a dominatrix in one scene as they walk out a door
Turned it off immediately after seeing the fat dyke daughter.
This whole bullshit meme where women pretend to be lesbians and this is somehow a take that to men as if they are like "treat us better or we start fucking women" is so cringe, i say go ahead, fuck women if that';s what you want to do you stupid whores.
Watched it last night, it was one of the most reddit, rick and morty lolsurandom movie I have ever seen,
I still got 30min left
If you like Rick and morty, and adventure time style of random shit happening all the time you will like this movie
If you have more that 4 braincells you won't
this is a visual representation of when people think they're random and say "<FOOD> <ANIMAL>"
MONKEY CHEEEESE
Perhaps I'm old but I didn't get the hype.
The first 10 minutes was a complete mess. I couldn't understand the dialogue, the broken accent, the constant switch between english and chinese. Why? Chaotic in order to be chaotic? It just felt amateurish. Instead of engaging the audience I was put off. And the movie went through a lot only to point out that a family member is a unit in the family. The message felt rather misguidedsince it was about accepting your only child being lesbic (lessening the chance of reproducing).
The movie wasn't as funny either. It was like a Stephen Chow movie but more awkward, less refined and less emotional. The jokes lacked depth, were too much in your face and insultingly childish (farts and hot dogs). The action was alright and innovative, would like to have seen more of wizards duelign with clown-magic but the final fight was subpar, a hug instead of a big bombastic explosion. The acting by JLC and her character was perhaps the best, too bad she didn't get the chance to be the monster that she was hyped up to be in the beginning.
The message was not accepting lesbianism lmfaoo
Please explain how it wasn't a part of the message.
I get that the movie was about accepting your shitty life and trying to see the beauty of it in order to make it "beautiful".
they're being audited by the IRS which is enough to throw any adult into a panic but Evelyn has to balance that with throwing a party for her patrons, her daughter hating her, her husband wanting to divorce her and her dad piling expectations on her. it's obviously being played as chaotic and stressful and not something easily processable from both her perspective and a viewer's perspective. the movie's title literally points to maximalism and the intro rolls with that by being overwhelming. so it's probably not just that you're old just dumb if that's a point of contention
>audited by the IRS
Maybe don't buy fucking trash, that's exactly what the irs lady pointed out
>daugther hating her
That's not what the film portrays, it only shows her dissapointment and the kid failing to meet normal standars (don't be fucking gay) and that's all spewed as "my dad won't like it, it's never hinted as her not being somewhat ok with it
>divorce
That happen after the irs stuff
what does this moralism bullshit have to do with the intro being intentionally chaotic from a filmmaking perspective? I don't care about your opinion on their choices, I'm listing why it wasn't [Chaotic in order to be chaotic], it was chaotic because the protag's relations were straining her from every direction
>pay no attention to husband, already relegates job for him. Don't wake up dad, paint ceiling, do your job
>Wakes dad, use wrong paint, disrupt workflow changing the shirt
>Daugther needs to be ther to translate for irs and nothing more, and don't bring up being a fag to her dad. Shows up with gf, later bails out.
Her "chaotics life" is nothing more than everyone else not doing their jobs.
It was chaotic because they constantly shifted languages, made multiple fast edits, forced the audience to focus on details, remember certain aspects, introduced characters without giving any background info of them. I know this all came afterwards, I just felt it was amateurish. Chaotic for the sake of being chaotic.
>not something easily processable from both her perspective and a viewer's perspective
This is what I don't get. How do you just happen in that state. She did no drugs. She wasn't stupid. I mean, in another parallell universe she was a nobel prize winner and a computer tech savant.
And like
said. The whole audited by the IRS is a dumb excuse when they point out in the movie that she set herself up to it. It was a mess because they wanted it to be a mess.
Compare the intro to Groundhog Day. A movie with a similar theme. But this one takes the time and introduces you to everything in a solid pace. I does not feel the need to be chaotic just to demonstrate that you can confuse your audience. Everything Everywhere All at Once does that. It wants to confuse the audience, because the producers knows that the base story can't hold it on its own.
>How do you just happen in that state.
Word of god from the creators is that she has undiagnosed ADHD, and they ended up writing this character with that in mind after researching it so it's one of those things where you can either take it or leave it. Those other universes are also those where her life took more "correct" paths. It's explicitly said her laundry and taxes universe is the one where she's a loser that basically did everything "wrong".
> basically did everything "wrong".
did you buy that? owning a washing machine business is the worsest imaginable?
yeah, I don't fucking get that either. she was born in china ffs. are you telling me there were no path for her to be a toilet for some arabian sheik?
that's another problem. at least groundhog day explored suicide and fucking every stacy around
In an infinite multiverse no not really because it necessarily opens up versions of yourself that would be homeless and drugged up or kept as a torture trophy chained up in some serial killer's basement. I didn't accept it logically but it's not going to bother me narratively because I understand what it's getting at. It's easy for me to suspend disbelief here because anything that enters speculative fiction territory enters territory where it's hard to be infallible unless you're doing hard sci-fi with enclosed systems like Primer
>but it's not going to bother me narratively because I understand what it's getting at.
but doesn't that make the movie less great?
should not narration aim to be coherent? is it not chaotic to just ignore logic?
Sorry but you're wrong
My opinion is objectively correct and if you disagree you have to have a nice day
>just give your genocidal daughter a hug and everything will be ok
She killed billions...
Every scene:
-preachy earnest life lesson dialogue
-kung fu dance coreography
-jump to new random location
-repeat for 2 hours.
I agree it's technically impressive but how did you not get sick of almost the same thing happening with the same result over and over?
I mentally checked out by the halfway point because literally every scene is just the mom doing her thing and you know in the ending it will all be ok, since it's such a safe and mainstream movie.
We were told the stakes but it never felt like they were real or mattered.
well fuck you too buddy, but i admire your taste in film
Yeah MCU is great cinema and Im tired of pseuds pretending its not
Its fun, but its 15 minutes too long
Didnt deserve Oscars tho