No one believes the series will be finished. Even if WOW gets released a dream of spring won’t come out and that wouldn’t even be the last book of the series anyway. You’re better off reading fanfic, unironically
Magic is starting to manifest in the world of ASOIAF. If Sanderson puts his hands on it Melisandre will be throwing Gokakyu No Jutsu on the first chapter and Arya summoning Nymeria on Bravos. It doesn't work. George is much more conservative.
So going off that estimated time GOT will take 25 years to finish.
The fat fuck knows he wont live that long, he's running away from a book he cant finish. What a coward and a fraud
I've never seen a legacy so tarnished. Not only did the show shit the bed in the most unbelievable way possible, but it will be a decade post show that fans get the book that they were already waiting many years for. Only the hardcore fans still care now, but that number drops every year.
He would be stupid to finish these books. Better to leave fans hanging and wondering what great ending he has in mind than to finish the books and prove to everybody once and for all that he's a hack.
Hahahahahaha, seeing you guys seethe.
Anyway, maybe convince G.R.R. Martin to try out intermittent fasting.
So going off that estimated time GOT will take 25 years to finish.
The fat fuck knows he wont live that long, he's running away from a book he cant finish. What a coward and a fraud
He's not super old or anything. All you zoomers think he's ready for the retirement home but he's not even retirement age yet. Just let the man write. It was a huge mistake turning the books into a movie series because of how much it disrupted his life, making it take longer to make the books. But he's writing at a normal pace and is not a sickly ancient man, and he's not even finished his final series yet.
>It was a huge mistake turning the books into a movie series because of how much it disrupted his life
Ugh, being a millionaire sucks! It totally disrupted my life of being a middle income fat fantasy writer.
He SHOULD be in a nursing home, he clearly weighs over 300lbs. He literally could not live long enough to write even one more book if it's going to take him 10 years.
>He's not super old
He's morbidly obese and vaccinated while being almost 80.
And that's not the only problem either. The older he gets the more his brain starts to rot. I bet a quarter of the reason he can't finish is because he's starting to get senile, alongside the lack of drive and inspiration from his testosterone plummetting.
The average life expectancy in America is 77 years old. Martin is not a healthy man and is exceedingly overweight. Even forgetting the fact that he is aged and unquestionably degrading mentally, which will impact his writing, he is absolutely not fucking writing at a normal pace. His books have been completed at a glacial pace following the release of Storm of Swords, which is coincidentally when his writing began to slip. He absolutely will not finish this novel, he is going to be dead in under 10 years and he is going to spend it living lavishly and not toiling away on a series he is already too old to complete.
He hasn't figured out enough food porn to fit into Winds of Winter. If anything the strikes have been helpful to actually make the old cunt work on the damn book.
I've never seen a legacy so tarnished. Not only did the show shit the bed in the most unbelievable way possible, but it will be a decade post show that fans get the book that they were already waiting many years for. Only the hardcore fans still care now, but that number drops every year.
I stopped caring after the show ended.
I don't even care about House of the Dragon anymore.
Also, fuck the Elden Ring DLC, it's been almost 2 years since the game came out.
If these fucks can't deliver content in a timely manner, then people lose interest.
They've done it to themselves.
Fuck em.
Thank you for reading my angry blog
Good day sir.
This is accurate.
It's one thing for the show to shit the bed. But there's zero excuse for Martin to just stop writing the series that made him famous for over a decade
The "Legacy" of GOT was getting lucky and starting a Tolkienesque grand fantasy series when there hadn't been a heavily promoted one since The Sword of Shannara in the 70's. LOTR fags embraced his derivative book like it was actually good, when it really wasn't.
>Asoiaf, for all its flaws, is a far more entertaining read than Tolkien redditnagger
"Why yes -- I did just assert GOT is better than what is considered the greatest literally work of the 20th Century. Why are you all looking at me that way?"
Entertaining doesn't imply objectively better quality retard. GOT has logical loopholes and isn't as fleshed out in world building as Lotr but given the choice to reread either GOT or Lotr most neutrals will pick GOT in a heartbeat, it's much more fun, fast paced and engaging than Lotr. I could barely keep myself hooked on my FIRST read of Lotr, let alone a reread.
First of all, GOT is pretty fucking far from being grand fantasy which I now guess you didn't watch it. And second the reason for GOT's success wasn't the more "fantastical" elements, but the political intrigue and disciplined expectancy break.
Since we're speaking of books, one does not "watch" a book. One "reads" a book. But guess that distinction is lost on a zoom who actually thinks HBO GOT is I Claudius but better because it has dragons and tits.
He would be stupid to finish these books. Better to leave fans hanging and wondering what great ending he has in mind than to finish the books and prove to everybody once and for all that he's a hack.
>Just let ChatGPT write them at this point.
Some guy has already made the last two books with ChatGPT, and you can still read them on Internet Archive. Those "books" are unreadable garbage and mostly repeat the TV show, because ChatGPT is unable to distinguish between the show and the books.
It’s obvious that George doesn’t know how to finish the series, there was a big gap between book 4 and 5 as well. It’s been so long and now he’s afraid of the response
He prefers, by far, the deconstruction, or more accurately, the ripping apart aspect of a story. The betrayal, murder, people being tortured. But once he's done it, he doesn't care any more. He's had his fun, it's boring now.
So he goes off and finds new things to tear apart. Which is why you get things like, say, Dorne rising as a plot. But once he's torn that down, where does he go next? He doesn't WANT to take the next step, which is the reconstruction and rebuilding (the "dream of spring"). That bores him even more than continuing to torture characters that he's spent years ripping apart.
It's an almost sociopathic enjoyment of seeing people suffer.
At least fake Christians don't go out getting drunk at bars and nightclubs on the weekends while looking for one night stands or attending Gay Pride parades where the attendees proceed to commit their sexual perversions on the streets while drinking urine from cups.
2 months ago
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You are right, fake Christians don't. But true Christians do. Majority of conservative Christians are closeted homos in denial
2 months ago
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True Christians don't do any of that gay or hedonistic cral either. They are too busy preaching and telling people to stay clear of the lifestyles practiced by the 1 percent who control Hollywood, the same 1 percent who use the entertainment they create to tell everyone else how they should live and who to vote for.
2 months ago
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Oddly specific
2 months ago
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A lot of people these days go out to bars and nightclubs and even attend those Gay Pride parades. During the monkey pox outbreak, people were showing videos on /misc/ about all the actual hedonistic shit that goes down at those Pride parades that are usually championed by the rich 1 percent of Hollywood.
2 months ago
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The average person has never been to a pride parade. People avoid clubs more than ever now too. I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex.
2 months ago
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what's the average person got to do with anything in this thread?
2 months ago
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>A lot of people these days go out to bars and nightclubs and even attend those Gay Pride parades
So you meant a lot of a certain subset of people?
2 months ago
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>I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex
it's an increasingly smaller minority of people having increasingly crazier social lives.
2 months ago
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>I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex.
It's libtards telling everyone who disagree with them to touch grass when they are the ones cloistered in their rooms all day, only going out in their concrete jungle to wageslave and purchase groceries.
2 months ago
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You can have whatever weird cope you need to deal with being a social reject, but don't pretend you're some religious zealot when you've never even read more than a line or two of the bible.
2 months ago
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Guam is a heavily Roman Catholic Christian island and there are many other Christian religions here. Most people here have read more than one or two lines from the Bible. You should give it a try. If you find it difficult to read the Bible, then the Jehovah's Witnesses have some picture books and pamphlets you can read to make learning stuff from the both the Old and New Testaments easier.
Also, keep seething about the Game of Thrones books not being finished.
2 months ago
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It is really best not to interact with Jehovah's Witnesses at all.
2 months ago
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And no, I'm not a religious zealot. Why would I want to be a religious zealot? But I do enjoy Western literature like Lord of the Rings which is written by a devout Christian. I can probably get more enjoyment from LotR if I do try to read the Bible every now and then. But I'm not going to force the Christian religion onto other people, that would be like Leftist University professors brainwashing students into becoming LGBT followers who scream "Nazi!" whenever they encounter anyone who doesn't think exactly like them.
2 months ago
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christians built western society, lgbts are destroying it. false analogy.
2 months ago
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The Pagan Romans and Greeks built Western civilization and the Christians inherited that civilization. The Western portion of Europe that fell to the dark ages eventually rediscovered Western civilization that was persevered by the Roman Byzantine Christians. After finally beating off the Muslim Arabs, Turks, and Berbers, Western Europe spread throughout the rest of the world trying to bring the light of civilization and Christianity with them.
Anyway, I'll leave the Christian zealotry to more competent people.
It is really best not to interact with Jehovah's Witnesses at all.
They're all right since they are actual pacifists unlike those Antifa goons and hoodlums who go around destroying small businesses and starting forest fires.
unsurprising that someone retarded enough to believe in fad health memes is also retarded enough to waste their time 'trolling'
It's worth a shot and could give G.R.R. Martin an extra couple of years so that he can finish the books.
The average person has never been to a pride parade. People avoid clubs more than ever now too. I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex.
They're teaching that LGBT crap in public schools, check out YouTube and watch a video on detransitioners or psychiatrists trying to explain the insanity of the Trans movement.
Sanderson can't write his way out of a fucking paper bag, so the fact that he's even entertaining this is laughable. It's genuinely insane that there are people on this board who view Sanderson as anything other than a fat fucking retard. If you actually enjoy his writing you should genuinely kill yourself.
Sanderson is a great writer and the only reason why people rag on his work is because he is popular and accessible. How people will pretend that he is a hack while someone like Jon Abercrombie is some master of prose I will never understand. Being a contrarian is not a personality.
I didn't say his writing was bad, it's just the same as Sanderson effectively. 99/100 fantasy writers are telling you a fun story about an interesting world, not giving you a deep message. It's like listening to kids arguing over their favorite power ranger, it's not worth that level of scrutiny to someone that's really invested in fiction as a whole.
Lol
Sorry George, this is capitalism
The books will be finished by an actually competent writer, they'll all make money and there's nothing you can do about it
That's a shame. I had hoped he'd at least allow Tyler and Daniel to touch it considering how close they are/seem to be. They're competent writers, too.
>GRRM can barely finish WoW in over a decade and his whole series in 30 years >Pratchett wrote 41 discworld novels in 32 >Jordan between 1990 and 2007 wrote 13/14 WoT novels and left enough for Sanderson to finish the series
Martin is not only a fucking hack but a lazy one at that.
I don’t think he’s lazy. He’s doing a lot of work. He’s constantly writing. The problem is he’s not working on ASOIAF’s final two books. He spends time working on these tv shows, writing all these extra books in the AOIAF verse, writing his blog, talking on twitter, etc.
I don’t think that’s the life of a lazy person. I think he’s actively choosing to not finish the series.
He's definitely hit some sort of structural block with ASOIAF as like you say he's been able to pump out Dunk & Egg and Fire and Blood etc. I read that initially GRRM had thought about doing a five year timeskip after ASOS to get the Starks in particular aged up enough to be able to logically progress. This would make sense that he's not sure what to do after not doing the skip. Honestly at this point he'd just be better to work with someone to get the last two out so he can go back to writing the side books he actually enjoys doing.
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definitely hit some sort of structural block with ASOIAF as like you say he's been able to pump out Dunk & Egg and Fire and Blood
>Dunk and Egg. "Pumping out."
Anon, he released three short stories in 25 years. The last Dunk and Egg story was released in 2010. He wrote ZERO Dunk and Egg STORIES IN 13 YEARS. He lost it.
He said he wrote himself into a corner with one thing but if Im honest his work on other projects has hardly been groundbreaking. It seems like a copout because he wont put the time in to finish asoiaf. Im resigned hes never finishing it and is too proud/retarded to get help like Robert Jordan did. Sure the last WoT book is lower quality but at least it finished the series. I agree with other anons that in all likelhood the rights to it all will be acquired and they will draft in someone to finish it all. If his wife is smart she sells it with his notes for a fortune and lives comfy.
Jordan was a fucking prose machine. I didn't even half cringe a single time during any of his many books but cringed audibly during what was obviously one of Shaitanson's first chapters. That being said it was still better than leaving everything unfinished.
Sanderson is only a mediocre writer, but him saying he'd decline if asked earns him a fair bit of respect from me. I can think of writers who would try to do it anyway and fuck it up out of ego and hubris.
Name them, you say? To do that, I would have to go against my - and I'm not saying this lightly - against my better judgment, because no matter how much I respect George, venerable giant of the genre this old man is, I could never dare - dare! - to name even one tautology of his (or mine), let alone two.
BotNS is rather hopeful, ultimately, and it's still a Christian story. Despite there being a lot of dark things in it, it ultimately tries to end on a high/hopeful note and Severian does prevent the sun from going out. He also becomes less of a sociopath by the end of the story, and outright lies about things to make himself seem like more of a badass. Although he also doesn't seem to understand rape so he might have been rapier than he lets on.
Any other hack writer would take over the books and change them to suit his/her view of what it should be. Look at what that homosexual did to the Wheel of Time show.
Refusing to do that is integrity.
Sanderson is the one who finished WoT so I don't get what you're saying here, does he have integrity or not?
Any other hack writer would take over the books and change them to suit his/her view of what it should be. Look at what that homosexual did to the Wheel of Time show.
Refusing to do that is integrity.
That first paragraph makes me think he's a stand up guy in real life. Never read a word of one of his books, but seeing him work through, "huh, I guess that would be censorship," is great.
Yeah, it’s ok to say something just isn’t in your wheelhouse or not what you’d want. Everything nowadays is either “I must wholeheartedly support it or totally condemn it”
>I don't shy away from difficult material, but I prefer not to get explicit. Honestly, when I read it in George's work, I often just cringe. I don't think it fits in prose; I think it looks tacky.
Sums it up perfectly.
He's right he'd be a bad fit, but not because of the pessimism. Sanderson is an extreme planner. He uses an outline, puts a lot of thought into story structure, writes over ten drafts of each book, uses alpha reader feedback to adjust things, etc. He's as far as you can get some GRRMs make it up as you go approach.
For Mistborn he wrote the entire trilogy then went back and redrafted the whole thing to make sure book one properly set up book three.
I want Rowling to be the one to finish them for him. Not because I think she'd be good at it, but because GRRM seethes endlessly at her and the rest fucker deserves to know his life's work was completed by someone he loathes.
I mean if the show's last episode is any bit accurate to his notes, the final 2 books truly do need to make a lot of legwork to make that shitfest make any cohesive sense.
Does that really require 3-4 year ordeal to get 25% of 1 of 2 books completed? Probably not, but GRRM is old and fat so he better get going.
You mean Dany has a woman moment then Jon kills her? >Faegon takes KL, pardons Stannis after a betrothal to Shireen and giving him Storm's End >Dany gets there expecting to be embraced by the people as a saviour, only to see they're already happy with another Targshit >chimps out >Jon kills her
Done. Literally everything else is fluff that will piss off the fans no matter what so fuck it.
There is no way it can be done in such short work. It would make season 8 look like a saga for him to have it done in 2 books. Dany has barely moved in 5 fucking books, she's nowhere near getting to Westeros, and Faegon is still an ancillary background character that is nowhere near acting in the capacity everyone has already figured out.
>Dany has barely moved in 5 fucking books
That's because he doesn't need her to do anything yet. He needs Westeros to get to the point where her arriving makes sense/works. He's had to invent a bunch of Essos plots just to spin the wheels over there while he gets all the armies in Westeros wiped out one by one. He's been pretty clear about how he got fucked over by not doing the planned timeskip because now he has to write all that shit to align the two story-paths.
Exactly. That's why 2 books aren't enough. He's literally in the Robert Jordan situation where he thought it would be trilogy and ended up being 14 books. I could see it being finished in 8 or so, but in 6? No fucking way, probably not even at his best when ASOS released let alone now.
Nah, I think two more books are enough because there isn't much more that could happen in Westeros after the next book where Aegon will take over King's Landing by the end, with heavy losses for the armies. That leaves Dany as the only one capable of standing against the Others in the final book and then her throwing a hissyfit when the commoners choose Aegon over her, killing off the last armies in her rage. Leaving a Dream of Spring because now the wheel is truly broken with all the nobles dead and all that's left are commoners who'll be able to survive and build a non-feudal society now that they won't be killed off by decade-long winters.
It'll be a really fucking thick book, of course. But I could see the last one end up quite slim because he'd finally have untangled his knot and so won't feel the need to invent more POVs and instead can just go with his original ending ideas and kill off most characters in The Long Night.
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>all the nobles dead and all that's left are commoners who'll be able to survive and build a non-feudal society now that they won't be killed off by decade-long winters.
lmao implying it's winter that keeps them in a feudal society
democracy is a modern construct and it is a plague anon
2 months ago
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>democracy is a modern construct
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In the books it explicitly is, nobody is talking about democracy but their style of feudalism. The only way for a government to survive in Westeros is for the lords to hoard most of the harvest in their castle storerooms for the coming winter, then once winter comes they'll eat first and last and so by the end of the winter the lords and their retinue are still alive, hopefully, and so can continue the succession of government.
If for example they tried to do some North Korea shit then they'd all die because the control is too centralised, it would just be Kim's family and closest allies eating, leading to societal collapse when Kim dies from eating too much or their one castle running out of wood for their fires one particularly harsh winter.
>im 75% done said an increasingly fat fuck for the 100th time this year
he isn't going to finish them, he let someone else finish his magnus opus and they set it on fire
>I'm pretty sure I remember him saying he is writing both the last books at the same time?
No that was just a theory kek >It'll be released any day now! You'll see! 2 more weeks!
Its been 75% complete for ten fucking years why won't he just admit he prefers working for tv and traveling to conventions and he can't be arsed untangling the 20 plot threads he created.
I've never been bothered about the delays but its his lying that annoys me
Hahahahahaha. Only people suffering are the fans of the books. But at least you guys are getting some t.v. shows to keep you content until the novels are finished.
Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings fans at least have their main series finished. Well except for autogynophiles who used to be fans of Harry Potter and who are probably just as angry as A Song of Ice and Fire fans but for an entirely different reason.
>Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
I don't know much about the Dune series, but how do you even "finish" novels that span thousands of years? I have a hard time comprehending it, most of the characters you've started with a long gone now, except for everlasting Duncan Idaho.
What makes it bad is that he only had one book left.
Dune was essentially going to be two trilogies bridged by the fourth book, the God Emperor of Dune. The story does span thousands of years and follows the Atreides bloodline primarily. The first three books only span the time of a few decades or so. God Emperor is a huge time jump but it is a bridge to the second trilogy. This second trilogy only spanned a short time too.
Hahahahahaha. Only people suffering are the fans of the books. But at least you guys are getting some t.v. shows to keep you content until the novels are finished.
Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings fans at least have their main series finished. Well except for autogynophiles who used to be fans of Harry Potter and who are probably just as angry as A Song of Ice and Fire fans but for an entirely different reason.
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Scytale, the last Bene Tleilaxu, I think, he had the DNA of the original Atriedes families like Paul, Jessica and Leto II(or III since Paul and Chani's first child, also named Leto, was killed offscreen in book 3 of the first novel). And although I was wrong about the Machines returning, because I had read summaries of what Brian Herbert was writing when he took over the Dune franchise, upon rereading Chapterhouse: Dune, it turns out another fan was correct. The Face Dancers who were sent out into the far reaches of space during that Scattering event did gain their own like sentience or independence and were locked in a war against the Honored Matres(a group of women formed out of the Fish Speakers, Bene Gesserit and Bene Tleilaxu women who were the axlotl tanks that carried the genetic mutations or products like gholas or face dancers within themselves.) So it's like a bunch of very fit/physically strong women pissed off at nerds/scientists for being used as reproductive vessels for the insane genetic experiments, like maybe that was what the war between the Honored Matre and the sentient Face Dancers was about.
Frank Herbert was probably going to bring back the characters from the first trilogy of the books and they were going to help the Bene Gesserit/Honored Matre in the fight against the Trans movement... oh wait, they were going up against the independent Face Dancers who are totally not trans/autogynophiles.
I'm not really a fan of the Dune series anymore because of the other fans, especially the Leftists who claim the Dune novels for themselves which is strange since Frank Herbert was a Republican who hated the LGBTQ+ movement. But whatever. I still have the books and when World War 3 breaks out and most of humanity, including the rich 1 percent and all the Leftists have been reduced to radioactive dust, maybe I'll be able to read the Dune novels again.
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>Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
I don't know much about the Dune series, but how do you even "finish" novels that span thousands of years? I have a hard time comprehending it, most of the characters you've started with a long gone now, except for everlasting Duncan Idaho.
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What makes it bad is that he only had one book left.
Dune was essentially going to be two trilogies bridged by the fourth book, the God Emperor of Dune. The story does span thousands of years and follows the Atreides bloodline primarily. The first three books only span the time of a few decades or so. God Emperor is a huge time jump but it is a bridge to the second trilogy. This second trilogy only spanned a short time too.
Scytale, the last Bene Tleilaxu, I think, he had the DNA of the original Atriedes families like Paul, Jessica and Leto II(or III since Paul and Chani's first child, also named Leto, was killed offscreen in book 3 of the first novel). And although I was wrong about the Machines returning, because I had read summaries of what Brian Herbert was writing when he took over the Dune franchise, upon rereading Chapterhouse: Dune, it turns out another fan was correct. The Face Dancers who were sent out into the far reaches of space during that Scattering event did gain their own like sentience or independence and were locked in a war against the Honored Matres(a group of women formed out of the Fish Speakers, Bene Gesserit and Bene Tleilaxu women who were the axlotl tanks that carried the genetic mutations or products like gholas or face dancers within themselves.) So it's like a bunch of very fit/physically strong women pissed off at nerds/scientists for being used as reproductive vessels for the insane genetic experiments, like maybe that was what the war between the Honored Matre and the sentient Face Dancers was about.
Frank Herbert was probably going to bring back the characters from the first trilogy of the books and they were going to help the Bene Gesserit/Honored Matre in the fight against the Trans movement... oh wait, they were going up against the independent Face Dancers who are totally not trans/autogynophiles.
I'm not really a fan of the Dune series anymore because of the other fans, especially the Leftists who claim the Dune novels for themselves which is strange since Frank Herbert was a Republican who hated the LGBTQ+ movement. But whatever. I still have the books and when World War 3 breaks out and most of humanity, including the rich 1 percent and all the Leftists have been reduced to radioactive dust, maybe I'll be able to read the Dune novels again.
Guam. The 1980s version of the Dune novels was on constant replay on the Sci Fi channel which turned into the SyFy channel and they had their own miniseries adaptation of Dune, Dune: Messiah and Children of Dune. I noticed that the book store at the mall was carrying Frank Herbert's Dune novels, so I bought the first Dune novel and subsequently the rest of them. This was during middle and high school.
I agree with Frank Herbert in his hatred of the homosexuals and trans people, well I hate autogynophiles more than the actual trans people.
I have not watched the recent WB live action adaptation of Dune.
I don't believe you and even if I did I don't see how you would survive the supply chain shock that WW3 would inevitably cause, but I guess you accounted for that in your "maybe".
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Yeah, I should get to work stockpiling canned foods. I should probably learn to use the bow and arrow since there are areas on Guam where you can hunt wild game.
>he lives in Guam >he thinks he'll survive WW3 and not get fucking vaporized
Anon...
2 months ago
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Just waiting on Biden to get voted out of office and the covid vaccine requirements for travel tossed out the window. Also, World War 3 can be avoided if Hamas just releases all the prisoners, abdicated their hold of power in Gaza and allow more level headed politicians to use money to build hospitals, schools, industry, animal farms, etc. instead of building weapons of war.
2 months ago
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1) China doesn't give a shit about Palestine.
2) Deescalation in Palestine is impossible, now more than ever.
3) Vaporization really isn't so bad, so don't worry about it.
>Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
Well, I wasn't. I hated how the last two written books were basically two parts of a trilogy that will now never be finished.
People don't care about Dune being unfinished because normalfags hardly ever read beyond the first book, the rest is too "weird".
Honestly I’d respect GRRM if he just came out and said he got his bag and doesn’t give a shit about the main got story anymore and just wants to worldbuild from now on. This whole I swear I’ll finish it I just need more time is sad
>Isn’t it conventional wisdom that a practising writer should aim for 1000 words a day?
Well, guess what, GRRM isn't a writer anymore. He's a full-time TV producer.
Anon the last two books he released was originally one book. His editor had to tell him to stop adding shit and release it in two halves. His problem isn't that he can't write, it's that to get to the ending he has planned he must get all the characters to a point where Westeros and Essos will finally meet. To get there he's had to invent shit that happens during the intervening years that was originally supposed to be a timeskip and he just can't help himself when it comes to adding new shit. New characters and plotlines that now have to be resolved before the finale comes, so he has to write even more and then ends up adding even more shit. All because he can't figure out how to make it all line up for the finale he wants.
The fat fuck might even have most of the final book written at this point because he's known the ending he wants for decades. But we'll still never see it released because he doesn't know how to make the story get to the finale in a concise way, he'll be stuck writing whole new chapters about a new characters and then deleting them.
If he truly had a problem with writing he wouldn't be releasing the books about the history of the world, or write for videogames. His problem is that whenever he's got trouble with a storyline he invents five new ones.
>Get buttmad about Tolkien >Fuck up your own story >Need to revive someone, anyone but can't because you're buttmad about Tolkien
Literally his best option is to not finish it and die and let it be a big what if.
Which means he's thinking about being a dead man, which means he's died already and must continue living with that knowledge until he actually does, like a coward.
Cowards should be killed so that peace can reign over Earth.
No, it's another day, scraggly bearded cuckold that looks exactly like a young Martin
He wrote some slop about a ninja fucking angels and simping over a prostitute while he watches her get fucked by other men
I remember late last year a bunch of delusional simps in got/HOTD threads were claiming he was gonna roll out Winds by 2024 based on previous claims about how far along he was. they insisted the numbers made sense and if he was 75% done a few years ago, he had to be pretty close now (by the end of 2022).
yet here we are almost a year later, and he’s still claiming muh 75% done, now sounding even more defensive than ever.
hopefully you retards are disabused of any notion that his claims to completion mean a fucking thing. it’s never coming out.
He’s just bitter and can’t take ownership that he put himself in this position. Instead he blames fans for their reactions to him fucking up.
these days, anyone pushing for accountability is seen as an evil fascist harasser.
>I remember late last year a bunch of delusional simps in got/HOTD threads were claiming he was gonna roll out Winds by 2024 based on previous claims about how far along he was
Ones in /gotg/ 2018 were claiming he was going to release it after GoT finished as HBO had him under a contract to not publish anything that could spoil the show. That was half a decade ago his fans how any of them still have hope is beyond me.
People are in mostly for the memes now. At least that's my take on /r/asoiaf which I access at least once a week. I don't think most people believe they will read ADOS, probably only TWOW, and that's counting with a lot of alignment from the stars. SAD
Books released posthumously by J.R.R. Tolkien:
1974 Bilbo's Last Song
1975 Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings (edited version)
1975 Translations of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Orfeo
1976 The Father Christmas Letters.
1977 The Silmarillion
1979 Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien
1980 Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth
1980 Poems and Stories
1981 The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien
1981 The Old English "Exodus" Text translation and commentary by J. R. R. Tolkien
1982 Finn and Hengest: The Fragment and the Episode
1982 Mr. Bliss
1983 The Monsters and the Critics
1983–1996 The History of Middle-earth:
-The Book of Lost Tales 1 (1983)
-The Book of Lost Tales 2 (1984)
-The Lays of Beleriand (1985)
-The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986)
-The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
-The Return of the Shadow (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 1) (1988)
-The Treason of Isengard (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 2) (1989)
-The War of the Ring (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 3) (1990)
-Sauron Defeated (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 4, including The Notion Club Papers) (1992)
-Morgoth's Ring (The Later Silmarillion vol. 1) (1993)
-The War of the israeliteels (The Later Silmarillion vol. 2) (1994)
-The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996)
1995 J. R. R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator - a compilation of Tolkien's art
1998 Roverandom
2002 A Tolkien Miscellany - a collection of previously published material
2002 Beowulf and the Critics ed
2005 Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings (full version)
2007 The Children of Húrin
2007 The History of The Hobbit
2008 Tales from the Perilous Realm
2009 The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún
2013 The Fall of Arthur
2014 Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary
2015 The Story of Kullervo
2016 A Secret Vice
2016 The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun
2017 Beren and Lúthien
2018 The Fall of Gondolin
2021 The Nature of Middle-earth
2022 The Fall of Numenor
Obviously getting rich in his old age and then having to decide between sitting in a room typing a character at a time to finish his book or just enjoy his short time on Earth.
From this is obvious that Martin plans to live for 150 years or at the very least hopes for some sort of brain in a vat type of scenario. Dunno about how he's going to type the books without a body, but we will figure it out!
He probably gets so horny writing sex scenes that he has to stop and jerk off, then moves on doing other things. This is the only reason why winds is taking too long
The truth is probably much simpler: he's slower now, he's not that motivated anymore and untangling his crossings narratives is difficult as fuck. I do think that deep down GRRM would like to finish his magnum opus, but he knows that's not happening and the best hope he has is delivering Winds, and that's a big If already, but he keeps pushing himself to finish it and that's a major source of avoidance for him.
>still falling for that blatant lie
guy is a conman and stole Berserk 100%. how much its fumbled and can't even get chapters out tells the tale. not to mention the nonsense of "and then casca is captured...le AGAIN" fuck off what a disgusting piece of shit for immediately capitalizing on Miuras death.
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Casca getting kidnaped again makes sense. What doesn't is Griffith suddenly spawning on the island with no explanation, and that's actually how you realize that her getting captured was in the notes but the "how" wasn't.
You know that it's never going to be his ending, no matter how much he gave them. You are right about him letting them finish being better than whatever dead man's switch GRRM planned.
There are no notes, anon. There are some cool plot twists like "Hodor" that were already spoiled by the show and a vague idea where main characters like Daenerys and Tyrion will end up. If the original author can't finish the story in 30 years ( he began writing ASOIAF in 1993) no writer for hire will be able to finish it.
It's not going to be the author stealing the spotlight, but the adaptation. Don't know. Maybe The Fallout TV Show (I know, not a book) or The Three Body Problem, but them again this one is being done by the GOT hacks.
even if it dropped right now, out of the blue, no one would care anymore. game of thrones is pretty much dead. Maybe things will pick up once the second season of house of the dragon comes out, but that could be YEARS from now.
You're really over-estimating the amount of people that care about the novels, especially now that the pop culture fad of GoT has died down so massively after it ended. Of course there's quite a few autists that would lap it up, but the overall cultural impact of this book finally coming out after over a decade of waiting would be a wet fart. It it had come out during the run of GoT it would be a massive thing, but not anymore.
People said the same when HotD initially came out but it was a mega hit. You'd be foolish to believe that nobody will care at this point. Every time GRRM farts it makes the nerd news. Fuck, you're in a thread rn about him saying it's almost done for the millionth babillionth time.
>he will never finish it
50% of Winds of Winter is just cut content from ADWD and the remaining 50% he's had 12 years to write. He's finished with Winds of Winter already but he's not released it yet cause he's writing ADOS right now and may need to revise events in Winds based on what direction he wants to go ith in ADOS.
ADOS and Winds will come out either together or within a year of each other, but they WILL come out.
this is the exact type of homosexual I’m referring to from the threads last year. Probably the actual same. beyond saving at this point. Can’t wait for Grrm to die and see how you cope then.
He took one whiff of German pornstar bush and he was placated forever. Why ever continue working when you can just use your millions to buy foreign pussy
>not putting him on an IV diet to maximize productivity. >not putting in a catheter and rectal tube to eliminate “potty breaks” >not sedating for six hours, then jacking him full of amphetamines for eighteen hours of frenzied writing >not having inter-testicular electrode implantation to encourage compliance >not promising the sweet release of death upon completion of six more books
It’s a good start, anon, but there’s so much more you could do with that setup.
>not putting him on an IV diet to maximize productivity. >not putting in a catheter and rectal tube to eliminate “potty breaks” >not sedating for six hours, then jacking him full of amphetamines for eighteen hours of frenzied writing >not having inter-testicular electrode implantation to encourage compliance >not promising the sweet release of death upon completion of six more books
It’s a good start, anon, but there’s so much more you could do with that setup.
I hope guys like Preston, LML and a bunch of others one day get together, fire up some LLM and just finish the story in the most autistic way possible. That would be a sight to see, lads.
I hope guys like Preston, LML and a bunch of others one day get together, fire up some LLM and just finish the story in the most autistic way possible. That would be a sight to see, lads.
I remember him saying he was writing one on the channel a couple years ago but I think the great crowdsourced autstic fanfiction project might have taken its place.
I used to give the old fatso a lot of understanding, but it's been so fucking long now and he's clearly abandoned the people who made him famous (his bookfans) so he can go play around with other projects and never finish the series.
Stephen King, who is famously bad at endings and is a total loon on social media, gets my respect for this reason: King's Dark Tower series had been an ongoing series for his entire career. His fans would eagerly await each new entry, but King got a bit complacent and lazy about writing them. Then one day King had a near death experience when he was hit by a drunk driver and he very nearly died. King decided "OK, I need to get to work and finish my magnum opus - my fans deserve it" and he finished off the last 2/3 books in a few years.
This is why King (despite his faults and flaws) is the King, and why Martin is a fat old hack who got butthurt that his audience was smarter than he figured and they had already figured out in his first book that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. He is crying that nobody liked the planned ending of Bran being on the throne and rage quit.
Entitlement is one of the worst attributes a fan can have. Serious question, if you become massively rich and famous for your own OC would you give a fuck if your fans lost respect for you because you're taking your time on the next project?
Yes? Once you have enough money, fan adoration becomes more important. Most writers don't write to get rich since there's not usually much money in it.
>entitlement >worst
It's not entitlement when you actually deserve it. Without me spending money on the fat fucks soft porno and shitposting about it online he would never have received the type of exposure and engagement he got. He's rich because of me and therefore he owes me what he marketed, a full complete series. If he had marketed his books as a half written trilogy that will abruptly stop at the most climatic part of the story would anybody have bought his retarded books?
Fucking retarded mindset. It's not like you donated money out of he kindness on your heart. You paid for one book and then loved it so much you paid for another. He doesn't owe you shit just because your dumbass invested too much and are left unfulfilled. You should be thanking him for even giving you something that you value enough to spend money on in the first place. If the books ever do come out you should be grateful he didn't just scribble a bunch of dicks on the page just to fuck with you.
fans holding you up to some type of standard isn't "entitlement" you homosexuals love to use that stupid ass word whenever you want to seem cool for being apathetic
and besides that point, the customers are fully within their right to complain about whatever they want. people are allowed to bitch and moan. it's not up to you to arbitrate.
if you have no respect for your customer base, or other people in general, you deserve to lose all of your money and die just as unknown as you were when you were born
what you're saying is just flat out bad business, nevermind completely fucking gay
>fans holding you up to some type of standard isn't "entitlement" you homosexuals love to use that stupid ass word whenever you want to seem cool for being apathetic
Im not apathetic. I want the books as much as anyone else and I'll be fucking ecstatic when they finally drop. Also there's a difference between holding someone up to a standard critically and feeling like you're owed something just because if your own personal investment. >customers are fully within their right to complain about whatever they want
Correct and I'm within my right to call you an entitled homosexual. What did Mommy not say "no" to you enough? Grow up. >if you have no respect for your customer base
If he had no respect he would just quickly shit them out while GoT was at it's peak for a quick payday. He wants to make them right and finish it the way he wants it. Also the irony about you complaining about respect but give none yourself.
There's a fanfiction called The North Remembers which does a decent job continuing and finishing the story. It's fanfiction so there's some sȯy and feminism here and there but overall it feels like a professional work.
I spent the last 5 years saying that at least TWOW he would likely finish it. Now I'm not even sure he wrote anything of significance at all. Time and time again he squirms and throw some bone claiming progress, but he burnt every chance at redemption with nothing to show for it. I bet most of this so called progress was rewriting that left him at the roughly the same number of pages since when Dance was published.
>show completely muddied my memories of the books with changed character names, deleted/changed characters and plotlines >mfw even under the best of circumstances where the next books was released tomorrow I'd have to reread all of the old ones just to remember all the plotlines except for Jon and Dany's >mfw I'd then have to reread them all again a decade later when the final book miraculously comes out right before GRRM dies
I just don't think I can do it. I'd just check online to see if my theories came true.
someone should write a novelization of the hbo show and put some of the good stuff from the books that didn't make it into the show in there, and also stretch out the ending an extra season like the cast begged d&d and not make the second half of the show all homosexual quips
>"Releases" the winds of winter on his website when he dies >It's just hundreds of pictures and video of him fucking prostitute's over the years >"You really thought I was still writing that shit?"
Would be based
After this and The Doors of Stone I'll never read another fantasy author again. I always considered the genre to be fucking nerd shit when I was at School and these fuckers have cemented my hatred for the genre.
Just read authors who have a track record of consistent releases for at least five years.
Don’t fall into the trap of seeing someone being productive for a few years and thinking it’s going to continue, because chances are that’s their publisher riding their ass in the hope of launching a new name, which sometimes works, but also can lead to a series being dropped halfway through when it fails to meet expectations, or worse leads to a Martin or Rothfuss situation.
Jim Butcher USED TO BE consistent. He molted and embraced his inner redditor and has been slacking off and writing really low quality trash for 10 years
Sadly true.
Peace talks was a real slog to get through, I haven't read the most recent book because I wasn't aware he'd bring two out in the same year.
Storyline has gone off the rails a bit recently with so many loose ends.
Jim Butcher USED TO BE consistent. He molted and embraced his inner redditor and has been slacking off and writing really low quality trash for 10 years
He got Scott Lynched, but was able to pull through.
Hopefully he managed to get his shit together. The fact he called NuWars worse than the holiday special is somewhat reassuring.
Changes was the last truly good one I think. Ghost Story was okay but very disjointed. Cold Days was okay because it had such a good premise and backstory to work with, but if you consider it in isolation it was honestly pretty shit. Later books are just poorly written cringe fests. The worst thing is that they've soured me on the old books too - can't reread them without thinking about what the series actually became.
Dubs and the fat fuck gets a blood clot and dies alone on the floor shitting and pissing himself as his dying mind floods with regrets and hallucinations of demons dragging him to hell this year
For real, why are you guys so eager to see this book series end? just because you read the books? are guys that invested in the sub-plots and characters? do you want to know who will sit on the iron throne?
It will probably end up being similar to the TV show ending just a bit more nuanced and where no one is a winner. Probably even insert the idea of voting or some bullshit. Probably even forgot about Bran's seer powers.
George confirmed that each characters ending will be the same as in the books. Jaime will die in Cerseis arms, Dany will go nuclear resulting in Jon killing her, Jon will end up with he wildlings, Bran will be king, tyrion will be the hand, Sansa will be Queen of the Norf, Arya will fuck off west. It's all just going to be told in a way that isn't rushed and slapped together.
The ending isn't the point, the journey is. For example Jon will end up with the wildlings, but only because he's a sentient corpse like Coldhands and must stay where winter is. Because Melly does not have the life force necessary to do a Thoros-style revival and so his only shot is to warg back into his own frozen corpse.
Also Cersei's prophecy will actually come to pass which will be fulfilling, instead of just ignoring it out of laziness.
This is why I refuse to read series that don't have actual endings. I had to suffer through Dune, now I just read shit like Book of the New Sun or Black Company because I know it has a conclusive ending.
No one believes the series will be finished. Even if WOW gets released a dream of spring won’t come out and that wouldn’t even be the last book of the series anyway. You’re better off reading fanfic, unironically
Brandon Sanderson will finish it. Hell, he probably has a rough draft ready to go.
Can't wait for the Mormoned up version
>sets jaw
>Dany rode her dragon awesomely over the land with some trees and a few hills.
Nah fuck that. Daniel Abraham would be the guy to finish it.
Wouldn't be very efficient. Whatever he writes will need a rewrite probably if Martin actually does some work.
Magic is starting to manifest in the world of ASOIAF. If Sanderson puts his hands on it Melisandre will be throwing Gokakyu No Jutsu on the first chapter and Arya summoning Nymeria on Bravos. It doesn't work. George is much more conservative.
They should get Tad Williams to finish it. George was HEAVILY inspired by his Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy.
Hahahahahaha, seeing you guys seethe.
Anyway, maybe convince G.R.R. Martin to try out intermittent fasting.
I just remembered there's another thread with angry ASoIaF fans. Gonna go check it out and see how much they are seething. Hahahahahahaha.
unsurprising that someone retarded enough to believe in fad health memes is also retarded enough to waste their time 'trolling'
So going off that estimated time GOT will take 25 years to finish.
The fat fuck knows he wont live that long, he's running away from a book he cant finish. What a coward and a fraud
He's not super old or anything. All you zoomers think he's ready for the retirement home but he's not even retirement age yet. Just let the man write. It was a huge mistake turning the books into a movie series because of how much it disrupted his life, making it take longer to make the books. But he's writing at a normal pace and is not a sickly ancient man, and he's not even finished his final series yet.
Fat people live shorter, worser lives, anon. He's lucky to have made it past 50
>It was a huge mistake turning the books into a movie series because of how much it disrupted his life
Ugh, being a millionaire sucks! It totally disrupted my life of being a middle income fat fantasy writer.
He SHOULD be in a nursing home, he clearly weighs over 300lbs. He literally could not live long enough to write even one more book if it's going to take him 10 years.
>not even retirement age yet
Are you fucking stupid? He's 75! He can't drop dead at any moment.
75 is like 120 in fat people years, honestly pretty impressive he's still kicking
Word on the street is that he survives on his books's fandom hopes
he's 75 and fat, he's a dead man walking
>He's not super old
He's morbidly obese and vaccinated while being almost 80.
And that's not the only problem either. The older he gets the more his brain starts to rot. I bet a quarter of the reason he can't finish is because he's starting to get senile, alongside the lack of drive and inspiration from his testosterone plummetting.
are you high?
a guy who seemed healthy dropping dead or getting bad cancer at 50 is not uncommon
GRRM is 75, fat, and probably unhealthy as fuck
The average life expectancy in America is 77 years old. Martin is not a healthy man and is exceedingly overweight. Even forgetting the fact that he is aged and unquestionably degrading mentally, which will impact his writing, he is absolutely not fucking writing at a normal pace. His books have been completed at a glacial pace following the release of Storm of Swords, which is coincidentally when his writing began to slip. He absolutely will not finish this novel, he is going to be dead in under 10 years and he is going to spend it living lavishly and not toiling away on a series he is already too old to complete.
>he is going to be dead in under 10 years
2 more weeks
difference is anon's estimation is based on real data
Sorry retard, your fat fuck writer isn't going to live to be 90 years old
>mobileposter OP posts months old news
He hasn't figured out enough food porn to fit into Winds of Winter. If anything the strikes have been helpful to actually make the old cunt work on the damn book.
It's OK his devoted son will take up his mantle and complete the story in a coherent and appropriate way.
>But dad I don't want to write another diarrhea chapter
>You must carry on my legacy son... BEEEEEEEEEEP
>>You must carry on my legacy son... BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
fixed
He doesn't have kids
GRRMJR
When has that ever worked
Author Jrs. universally are of lesser quality then their dads
I've never seen a legacy so tarnished. Not only did the show shit the bed in the most unbelievable way possible, but it will be a decade post show that fans get the book that they were already waiting many years for. Only the hardcore fans still care now, but that number drops every year.
Just imagine the tax policy he's crafting
I've never seen a poster bitterly relish in secrecy so much. The OP must have got you frothing at the bussy
Struck a nerve, huh?
I stopped caring after the show ended.
I don't even care about House of the Dragon anymore.
Also, fuck the Elden Ring DLC, it's been almost 2 years since the game came out.
If these fucks can't deliver content in a timely manner, then people lose interest.
They've done it to themselves.
Fuck em.
Thank you for reading my angry blog
Good day sir.
> I don't even care about House of the Dragon anymore.
Why not? Don’t you enjoy the general?
I enjoyed seeing Ty Tennant masturbating.
Why are you gay?
Because guys like Ty Tennant are sexy hot.
This is accurate.
It's one thing for the show to shit the bed. But there's zero excuse for Martin to just stop writing the series that made him famous for over a decade
>I've never seen a legacy so tarnished.
The "Legacy" of GOT was getting lucky and starting a Tolkienesque grand fantasy series when there hadn't been a heavily promoted one since The Sword of Shannara in the 70's. LOTR fags embraced his derivative book like it was actually good, when it really wasn't.
Asoiaf, for all its flaws, is a far more entertaining read than Tolkien redditnagger
>Asoiaf, for all its flaws, is a far more entertaining read than Tolkien redditnagger
"Why yes -- I did just assert GOT is better than what is considered the greatest literally work of the 20th Century. Why are you all looking at me that way?"
Entertaining doesn't imply objectively better quality retard. GOT has logical loopholes and isn't as fleshed out in world building as Lotr but given the choice to reread either GOT or Lotr most neutrals will pick GOT in a heartbeat, it's much more fun, fast paced and engaging than Lotr. I could barely keep myself hooked on my FIRST read of Lotr, let alone a reread.
First of all, GOT is pretty fucking far from being grand fantasy which I now guess you didn't watch it. And second the reason for GOT's success wasn't the more "fantastical" elements, but the political intrigue and disciplined expectancy break.
>I now guess you didn't watch it!
Since we're speaking of books, one does not "watch" a book. One "reads" a book. But guess that distinction is lost on a zoom who actually thinks HBO GOT is I Claudius but better because it has dragons and tits.
He would be stupid to finish these books. Better to leave fans hanging and wondering what great ending he has in mind than to finish the books and prove to everybody once and for all that he's a hack.
Just let ChatGPT write them at this point.
>Just let ChatGPT write them at this point.
Some guy has already made the last two books with ChatGPT, and you can still read them on Internet Archive. Those "books" are unreadable garbage and mostly repeat the TV show, because ChatGPT is unable to distinguish between the show and the books.
>Just let ChatGPT write them at this point.
It already has, and it sucked.
Good Morning Sir
It’s obvious that George doesn’t know how to finish the series, there was a big gap between book 4 and 5 as well. It’s been so long and now he’s afraid of the response
He should literally just do the opposite of what the show did. It's actually pretty simple when you think about it.
He prefers, by far, the deconstruction, or more accurately, the ripping apart aspect of a story. The betrayal, murder, people being tortured. But once he's done it, he doesn't care any more. He's had his fun, it's boring now.
So he goes off and finds new things to tear apart. Which is why you get things like, say, Dorne rising as a plot. But once he's torn that down, where does he go next? He doesn't WANT to take the next step, which is the reconstruction and rebuilding (the "dream of spring"). That bores him even more than continuing to torture characters that he's spent years ripping apart.
It's an almost sociopathic enjoyment of seeing people suffer.
It doesn't matter. The world lost interest
i thought we were done with bbcposting after israel got raped
Yes fatboy is going to die before he squeezes that turd out.
Just tell Brandon Sanderson to finish it and be done with it.
He already refused. Said the series is too violent and adult for him.
>religion strikes again
Fucking religious fags, man...
Go back
oh chuds are still pretending to be christians? i thought that phase was over
>t.
At least fake Christians don't go out getting drunk at bars and nightclubs on the weekends while looking for one night stands or attending Gay Pride parades where the attendees proceed to commit their sexual perversions on the streets while drinking urine from cups.
You are right, fake Christians don't. But true Christians do. Majority of conservative Christians are closeted homos in denial
True Christians don't do any of that gay or hedonistic cral either. They are too busy preaching and telling people to stay clear of the lifestyles practiced by the 1 percent who control Hollywood, the same 1 percent who use the entertainment they create to tell everyone else how they should live and who to vote for.
Oddly specific
A lot of people these days go out to bars and nightclubs and even attend those Gay Pride parades. During the monkey pox outbreak, people were showing videos on /misc/ about all the actual hedonistic shit that goes down at those Pride parades that are usually championed by the rich 1 percent of Hollywood.
The average person has never been to a pride parade. People avoid clubs more than ever now too. I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex.
what's the average person got to do with anything in this thread?
>A lot of people these days go out to bars and nightclubs and even attend those Gay Pride parades
So you meant a lot of a certain subset of people?
>I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex
it's an increasingly smaller minority of people having increasingly crazier social lives.
>I dont understand this conflicting narrative of most people being alone and staying inside while also saying most people are attending social events and having sex.
It's libtards telling everyone who disagree with them to touch grass when they are the ones cloistered in their rooms all day, only going out in their concrete jungle to wageslave and purchase groceries.
You can have whatever weird cope you need to deal with being a social reject, but don't pretend you're some religious zealot when you've never even read more than a line or two of the bible.
Guam is a heavily Roman Catholic Christian island and there are many other Christian religions here. Most people here have read more than one or two lines from the Bible. You should give it a try. If you find it difficult to read the Bible, then the Jehovah's Witnesses have some picture books and pamphlets you can read to make learning stuff from the both the Old and New Testaments easier.
Also, keep seething about the Game of Thrones books not being finished.
It is really best not to interact with Jehovah's Witnesses at all.
And no, I'm not a religious zealot. Why would I want to be a religious zealot? But I do enjoy Western literature like Lord of the Rings which is written by a devout Christian. I can probably get more enjoyment from LotR if I do try to read the Bible every now and then. But I'm not going to force the Christian religion onto other people, that would be like Leftist University professors brainwashing students into becoming LGBT followers who scream "Nazi!" whenever they encounter anyone who doesn't think exactly like them.
christians built western society, lgbts are destroying it. false analogy.
The Pagan Romans and Greeks built Western civilization and the Christians inherited that civilization. The Western portion of Europe that fell to the dark ages eventually rediscovered Western civilization that was persevered by the Roman Byzantine Christians. After finally beating off the Muslim Arabs, Turks, and Berbers, Western Europe spread throughout the rest of the world trying to bring the light of civilization and Christianity with them.
Anyway, I'll leave the Christian zealotry to more competent people.
They're all right since they are actual pacifists unlike those Antifa goons and hoodlums who go around destroying small businesses and starting forest fires.
It's worth a shot and could give G.R.R. Martin an extra couple of years so that he can finish the books.
They're teaching that LGBT crap in public schools, check out YouTube and watch a video on detransitioners or psychiatrists trying to explain the insanity of the Trans movement.
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What does that have to do with what I said?
Anons religion is contrarianism.
He’s a Mormon you ape, about as far from any other Christian as a Muslim
Ned Stark would chop your christkike head off
do you tedious fags need to seethe about religion in every fucking thread
We are many. (I'm another).
Gigabased.
That just makes me want to he his version even more, partly out of curiosity and partly out of spite for George.
Chad Sanderson
Sanderson can't write his way out of a fucking paper bag, so the fact that he's even entertaining this is laughable. It's genuinely insane that there are people on this board who view Sanderson as anything other than a fat fucking retard. If you actually enjoy his writing you should genuinely kill yourself.
The bridge runners were cool, but I got bored by book 3
Tick tock, Georgie
he isnt entertaining it, someone asked if he'd do it, he said no and doubt he'd be asked any way, perhaps you should try actually reading
great ai post
Sanderson is a great writer and the only reason why people rag on his work is because he is popular and accessible. How people will pretend that he is a hack while someone like Jon Abercrombie is some master of prose I will never understand. Being a contrarian is not a personality.
Abercrombie is godlike homosexual.
I didn't say his writing was bad, it's just the same as Sanderson effectively. 99/100 fantasy writers are telling you a fun story about an interesting world, not giving you a deep message. It's like listening to kids arguing over their favorite power ranger, it's not worth that level of scrutiny to someone that's really invested in fiction as a whole.
he's pumped out 4 books this year, 3 of them were good, one of those was fucking great
GRRM has masturbated to hentai for a decade and nothing else
He wouldn't be allowed to anyway. GRRM already said that nobody but him will finish it.
Lol
Sorry George, this is capitalism
The books will be finished by an actually competent writer, they'll all make money and there's nothing you can do about it
That's a shame. I had hoped he'd at least allow Tyler and Daniel to touch it considering how close they are/seem to be. They're competent writers, too.
>I won't allow anyone to tarnish my legacy! Now let me get back to writing
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass...
>GRRM can barely finish WoW in over a decade and his whole series in 30 years
>Pratchett wrote 41 discworld novels in 32
>Jordan between 1990 and 2007 wrote 13/14 WoT novels and left enough for Sanderson to finish the series
Martin is not only a fucking hack but a lazy one at that.
I don’t think he’s lazy. He’s doing a lot of work. He’s constantly writing. The problem is he’s not working on ASOIAF’s final two books. He spends time working on these tv shows, writing all these extra books in the AOIAF verse, writing his blog, talking on twitter, etc.
I don’t think that’s the life of a lazy person. I think he’s actively choosing to not finish the series.
He's definitely hit some sort of structural block with ASOIAF as like you say he's been able to pump out Dunk & Egg and Fire and Blood etc. I read that initially GRRM had thought about doing a five year timeskip after ASOS to get the Starks in particular aged up enough to be able to logically progress. This would make sense that he's not sure what to do after not doing the skip. Honestly at this point he'd just be better to work with someone to get the last two out so he can go back to writing the side books he actually enjoys doing.
definitely hit some sort of structural block with ASOIAF as like you say he's been able to pump out Dunk & Egg and Fire and Blood
>Dunk and Egg. "Pumping out."
Anon, he released three short stories in 25 years. The last Dunk and Egg story was released in 2010. He wrote ZERO Dunk and Egg STORIES IN 13 YEARS. He lost it.
He said he wrote himself into a corner with one thing but if Im honest his work on other projects has hardly been groundbreaking. It seems like a copout because he wont put the time in to finish asoiaf. Im resigned hes never finishing it and is too proud/retarded to get help like Robert Jordan did. Sure the last WoT book is lower quality but at least it finished the series. I agree with other anons that in all likelhood the rights to it all will be acquired and they will draft in someone to finish it all. If his wife is smart she sells it with his notes for a fortune and lives comfy.
Jordan was a fucking prose machine. I didn't even half cringe a single time during any of his many books but cringed audibly during what was obviously one of Shaitanson's first chapters. That being said it was still better than leaving everything unfinished.
Of course, who could honor the literary legacy of
>Fat pink masts
>it's just a cash cow
>Said the man who has been milking a series of books for slightly longer than I have been alive.
>But that's almost 100% due to my religious leanings
No it's not dude
Sanderson is only a mediocre writer, but him saying he'd decline if asked earns him a fair bit of respect from me. I can think of writers who would try to do it anyway and fuck it up out of ego and hubris.
>all those tautologies
Name two.
Name them, you say? To do that, I would have to go against my - and I'm not saying this lightly - against my better judgment, because no matter how much I respect George, venerable giant of the genre this old man is, I could never dare - dare! - to name even one tautology of his (or mine), let alone two.
I thought he was complaining of redundancies in Sanderson's reddit post.
>George's work seems fundamentally pessimistic
Wow Sanderson really is a retard
Yeah, it's far bleaker than "pessimistic".
It's simple business. Why would Sanderson touch the burning turd that is ASOIAF when he already makes money with his own stuff?
They should get Sanderson to finish it with FULL creative liberty, to make it into a proper mormon story with a good moral ending.
Meanwhile the chad "heretical catholic" Gene Wolfe writes a book about a retarded torturer slaying pussy as the sun dies
BotNS is rather hopeful, ultimately, and it's still a Christian story. Despite there being a lot of dark things in it, it ultimately tries to end on a high/hopeful note and Severian does prevent the sun from going out. He also becomes less of a sociopath by the end of the story, and outright lies about things to make himself seem like more of a badass. Although he also doesn't seem to understand rape so he might have been rapier than he lets on.
Sanderson is the one who finished WoT so I don't get what you're saying here, does he have integrity or not?
Any other hack writer would take over the books and change them to suit his/her view of what it should be. Look at what that homosexual did to the Wheel of Time show.
Refusing to do that is integrity.
That first paragraph makes me think he's a stand up guy in real life. Never read a word of one of his books, but seeing him work through, "huh, I guess that would be censorship," is great.
Yeah, it’s ok to say something just isn’t in your wheelhouse or not what you’d want. Everything nowadays is either “I must wholeheartedly support it or totally condemn it”
>too adult
He just finds it cringe and tried to dress it into muh religious beliefs. Gurm's sex descriptions are horny high school tier, not adult.
>I don't shy away from difficult material, but I prefer not to get explicit. Honestly, when I read it in George's work, I often just cringe. I don't think it fits in prose; I think it looks tacky.
Sums it up perfectly.
He's right he'd be a bad fit, but not because of the pessimism. Sanderson is an extreme planner. He uses an outline, puts a lot of thought into story structure, writes over ten drafts of each book, uses alpha reader feedback to adjust things, etc. He's as far as you can get some GRRMs make it up as you go approach.
For Mistborn he wrote the entire trilogy then went back and redrafted the whole thing to make sure book one properly set up book three.
No way anyone should care what this retarded Mormon thinks about anything
Fatality
Sanderson is a shit writer anyway. If toktok was an author of books it would be him.
I want Rowling to be the one to finish them for him. Not because I think she'd be good at it, but because GRRM seethes endlessly at her and the rest fucker deserves to know his life's work was completed by someone he loathes.
>look it up
>he's butthurt because she won an award and he didn't in 2001
lol
>get the Mormon to finish the le violent degenerate atheist story
Retard. He didn't even do a good job with WoT
putting down good money that the ice caps completely melt before the fat man finishes Winds
I mean if the show's last episode is any bit accurate to his notes, the final 2 books truly do need to make a lot of legwork to make that shitfest make any cohesive sense.
Does that really require 3-4 year ordeal to get 25% of 1 of 2 books completed? Probably not, but GRRM is old and fat so he better get going.
You mean Dany has a woman moment then Jon kills her?
>Faegon takes KL, pardons Stannis after a betrothal to Shireen and giving him Storm's End
>Dany gets there expecting to be embraced by the people as a saviour, only to see they're already happy with another Targshit
>chimps out
>Jon kills her
Done. Literally everything else is fluff that will piss off the fans no matter what so fuck it.
There is no way it can be done in such short work. It would make season 8 look like a saga for him to have it done in 2 books. Dany has barely moved in 5 fucking books, she's nowhere near getting to Westeros, and Faegon is still an ancillary background character that is nowhere near acting in the capacity everyone has already figured out.
>Dany has barely moved in 5 fucking books
That's because he doesn't need her to do anything yet. He needs Westeros to get to the point where her arriving makes sense/works. He's had to invent a bunch of Essos plots just to spin the wheels over there while he gets all the armies in Westeros wiped out one by one. He's been pretty clear about how he got fucked over by not doing the planned timeskip because now he has to write all that shit to align the two story-paths.
Exactly. That's why 2 books aren't enough. He's literally in the Robert Jordan situation where he thought it would be trilogy and ended up being 14 books. I could see it being finished in 8 or so, but in 6? No fucking way, probably not even at his best when ASOS released let alone now.
Nah, I think two more books are enough because there isn't much more that could happen in Westeros after the next book where Aegon will take over King's Landing by the end, with heavy losses for the armies. That leaves Dany as the only one capable of standing against the Others in the final book and then her throwing a hissyfit when the commoners choose Aegon over her, killing off the last armies in her rage. Leaving a Dream of Spring because now the wheel is truly broken with all the nobles dead and all that's left are commoners who'll be able to survive and build a non-feudal society now that they won't be killed off by decade-long winters.
It'll be a really fucking thick book, of course. But I could see the last one end up quite slim because he'd finally have untangled his knot and so won't feel the need to invent more POVs and instead can just go with his original ending ideas and kill off most characters in The Long Night.
>all the nobles dead and all that's left are commoners who'll be able to survive and build a non-feudal society now that they won't be killed off by decade-long winters.
lmao implying it's winter that keeps them in a feudal society
democracy is a modern construct and it is a plague anon
>democracy is a modern construct
In the books it explicitly is, nobody is talking about democracy but their style of feudalism. The only way for a government to survive in Westeros is for the lords to hoard most of the harvest in their castle storerooms for the coming winter, then once winter comes they'll eat first and last and so by the end of the winter the lords and their retinue are still alive, hopefully, and so can continue the succession of government.
If for example they tried to do some North Korea shit then they'd all die because the control is too centralised, it would just be Kim's family and closest allies eating, leading to societal collapse when Kim dies from eating too much or their one castle running out of wood for their fires one particularly harsh winter.
>im 75% done said an increasingly fat fuck for the 100th time this year
he isn't going to finish them, he let someone else finish his magnus opus and they set it on fire
I'm pretty sure I remember him saying he is writing both the last books at the same time? So how far is the other book?
>I'm pretty sure I remember him saying he is writing both the last books at the same time?
No that was just a theory kek
>It'll be released any day now! You'll see! 2 more weeks!
They should have never gave that old nigga internet dawg....
If he didn't have internet and shit like the old days he would have finished that shit by 2013.
Its been 75% complete for ten fucking years why won't he just admit he prefers working for tv and traveling to conventions and he can't be arsed untangling the 20 plot threads he created.
I've never been bothered about the delays but its his lying that annoys me
>Fuck you to those people
Hahahahahaha. Only people suffering are the fans of the books. But at least you guys are getting some t.v. shows to keep you content until the novels are finished.
Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings fans at least have their main series finished. Well except for autogynophiles who used to be fans of Harry Potter and who are probably just as angry as A Song of Ice and Fire fans but for an entirely different reason.
>Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
I don't know much about the Dune series, but how do you even "finish" novels that span thousands of years? I have a hard time comprehending it, most of the characters you've started with a long gone now, except for everlasting Duncan Idaho.
What makes it bad is that he only had one book left.
Dune was essentially going to be two trilogies bridged by the fourth book, the God Emperor of Dune. The story does span thousands of years and follows the Atreides bloodline primarily. The first three books only span the time of a few decades or so. God Emperor is a huge time jump but it is a bridge to the second trilogy. This second trilogy only spanned a short time too.
Got it, thanks.
I'm the guy who originally wrote
. I wrote
to answer
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Too bad.
Maybe if he lived even longer we might have gotten some kind of Ender's Shadow type book/series as well.
Scytale, the last Bene Tleilaxu, I think, he had the DNA of the original Atriedes families like Paul, Jessica and Leto II(or III since Paul and Chani's first child, also named Leto, was killed offscreen in book 3 of the first novel). And although I was wrong about the Machines returning, because I had read summaries of what Brian Herbert was writing when he took over the Dune franchise, upon rereading Chapterhouse: Dune, it turns out another fan was correct. The Face Dancers who were sent out into the far reaches of space during that Scattering event did gain their own like sentience or independence and were locked in a war against the Honored Matres(a group of women formed out of the Fish Speakers, Bene Gesserit and Bene Tleilaxu women who were the axlotl tanks that carried the genetic mutations or products like gholas or face dancers within themselves.) So it's like a bunch of very fit/physically strong women pissed off at nerds/scientists for being used as reproductive vessels for the insane genetic experiments, like maybe that was what the war between the Honored Matre and the sentient Face Dancers was about.
Frank Herbert was probably going to bring back the characters from the first trilogy of the books and they were going to help the Bene Gesserit/Honored Matre in the fight against the Trans movement... oh wait, they were going up against the independent Face Dancers who are totally not trans/autogynophiles.
I'm not really a fan of the Dune series anymore because of the other fans, especially the Leftists who claim the Dune novels for themselves which is strange since Frank Herbert was a Republican who hated the LGBTQ+ movement. But whatever. I still have the books and when World War 3 breaks out and most of humanity, including the rich 1 percent and all the Leftists have been reduced to radioactive dust, maybe I'll be able to read the Dune novels again.
Where do you live?
Guam. The 1980s version of the Dune novels was on constant replay on the Sci Fi channel which turned into the SyFy channel and they had their own miniseries adaptation of Dune, Dune: Messiah and Children of Dune. I noticed that the book store at the mall was carrying Frank Herbert's Dune novels, so I bought the first Dune novel and subsequently the rest of them. This was during middle and high school.
I agree with Frank Herbert in his hatred of the homosexuals and trans people, well I hate autogynophiles more than the actual trans people.
I have not watched the recent WB live action adaptation of Dune.
I don't believe you and even if I did I don't see how you would survive the supply chain shock that WW3 would inevitably cause, but I guess you accounted for that in your "maybe".
Yeah, I should get to work stockpiling canned foods. I should probably learn to use the bow and arrow since there are areas on Guam where you can hunt wild game.
>he lives in Guam
>he thinks he'll survive WW3 and not get fucking vaporized
Anon...
Just waiting on Biden to get voted out of office and the covid vaccine requirements for travel tossed out the window. Also, World War 3 can be avoided if Hamas just releases all the prisoners, abdicated their hold of power in Gaza and allow more level headed politicians to use money to build hospitals, schools, industry, animal farms, etc. instead of building weapons of war.
1) China doesn't give a shit about Palestine.
2) Deescalation in Palestine is impossible, now more than ever.
3) Vaporization really isn't so bad, so don't worry about it.
>Keep in mind that Frank Herbert never got to finish the Dune novels, but I'm fine with what he wrote.
Well, I wasn't. I hated how the last two written books were basically two parts of a trilogy that will now never be finished.
People don't care about Dune being unfinished because normalfags hardly ever read beyond the first book, the rest is too "weird".
They should read beyond the first Dune novel so that the normies can get acquainted with Frank Herbert's homophobia.
He’s never going to finish the books. Give up this mummers farce of hope.
>phoneposting
>not using adblock
what books have a 12 year gap? wtf
Old testament and new testament
luke and bran are icsh
Honestly I’d respect GRRM if he just came out and said he got his bag and doesn’t give a shit about the main got story anymore and just wants to worldbuild from now on. This whole I swear I’ll finish it I just need more time is sad
Isn’t it conventional wisdom that a practising writer should aim for 1000 words a day?
If he’d even managed 5% of that he’d have a respectable book
>Isn’t it conventional wisdom that a practising writer should aim for 1000 words a day?
Well, guess what, GRRM isn't a writer anymore. He's a full-time TV producer.
Anon the last two books he released was originally one book. His editor had to tell him to stop adding shit and release it in two halves. His problem isn't that he can't write, it's that to get to the ending he has planned he must get all the characters to a point where Westeros and Essos will finally meet. To get there he's had to invent shit that happens during the intervening years that was originally supposed to be a timeskip and he just can't help himself when it comes to adding new shit. New characters and plotlines that now have to be resolved before the finale comes, so he has to write even more and then ends up adding even more shit. All because he can't figure out how to make it all line up for the finale he wants.
The fat fuck might even have most of the final book written at this point because he's known the ending he wants for decades. But we'll still never see it released because he doesn't know how to make the story get to the finale in a concise way, he'll be stuck writing whole new chapters about a new characters and then deleting them.
If he truly had a problem with writing he wouldn't be releasing the books about the history of the world, or write for videogames. His problem is that whenever he's got trouble with a storyline he invents five new ones.
>Get buttmad about Tolkien
>Fuck up your own story
>Need to revive someone, anyone but can't because you're buttmad about Tolkien
Literally his best option is to not finish it and die and let it be a big what if.
Which means he's thinking about being a dead man, which means he's died already and must continue living with that knowledge until he actually does, like a coward.
Cowards should be killed so that peace can reign over Earth.
If GRRM dies before finishing the series I hear that Patrick Rothfuss has promised to step in and finish it.
>Rothfuss
That's a made-up name, right?
No, it's another day, scraggly bearded cuckold that looks exactly like a young Martin
He wrote some slop about a ninja fucking angels and simping over a prostitute while he watches her get fucked by other men
Whem you realize Kvothe is a Rothfuss self-insert wish-fulfillment wankfest the books become even more cringe than they already are.
I used to masturbate to felurian, when I was 13
Just read her wiki page and it gave me a throbbing boner as an adult. Good stuff.
Keep this under your hat, but I’ve heard Scott Lynch is a shoe in for finishing the series
People have been saying GRRM is going to die any day now and leave the series unfinished for like the past ten years.
He only gets older and obeser with each passing day
He's already dead. They got an actor to pretend to be him.
and in that time hes wrote another 2% of the book
I remember late last year a bunch of delusional simps in got/HOTD threads were claiming he was gonna roll out Winds by 2024 based on previous claims about how far along he was. they insisted the numbers made sense and if he was 75% done a few years ago, he had to be pretty close now (by the end of 2022).
yet here we are almost a year later, and he’s still claiming muh 75% done, now sounding even more defensive than ever.
hopefully you retards are disabused of any notion that his claims to completion mean a fucking thing. it’s never coming out.
I think he’s sincerely offended by the fact he hasn’t died yet
He’s just bitter and can’t take ownership that he put himself in this position. Instead he blames fans for their reactions to him fucking up.
these days, anyone pushing for accountability is seen as an evil fascist harasser.
It’s sad to think we won’t have a comfy got gen for Christmas this year.
>I remember late last year a bunch of delusional simps in got/HOTD threads were claiming he was gonna roll out Winds by 2024 based on previous claims about how far along he was
Ones in /gotg/ 2018 were claiming he was going to release it after GoT finished as HBO had him under a contract to not publish anything that could spoil the show. That was half a decade ago his fans how any of them still have hope is beyond me.
People are in mostly for the memes now. At least that's my take on /r/asoiaf which I access at least once a week. I don't think most people believe they will read ADOS, probably only TWOW, and that's counting with a lot of alignment from the stars. SAD
Books released posthumously by J.R.R. Tolkien:
1974 Bilbo's Last Song
1975 Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings (edited version)
1975 Translations of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Orfeo
1976 The Father Christmas Letters.
1977 The Silmarillion
1979 Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien
1980 Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth
1980 Poems and Stories
1981 The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien
1981 The Old English "Exodus" Text translation and commentary by J. R. R. Tolkien
1982 Finn and Hengest: The Fragment and the Episode
1982 Mr. Bliss
1983 The Monsters and the Critics
1983–1996 The History of Middle-earth:
-The Book of Lost Tales 1 (1983)
-The Book of Lost Tales 2 (1984)
-The Lays of Beleriand (1985)
-The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986)
-The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
-The Return of the Shadow (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 1) (1988)
-The Treason of Isengard (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 2) (1989)
-The War of the Ring (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 3) (1990)
-Sauron Defeated (The History of The Lord of the Rings vol. 4, including The Notion Club Papers) (1992)
-Morgoth's Ring (The Later Silmarillion vol. 1) (1993)
-The War of the israeliteels (The Later Silmarillion vol. 2) (1994)
-The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996)
1995 J. R. R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator - a compilation of Tolkien's art
1998 Roverandom
2002 A Tolkien Miscellany - a collection of previously published material
2002 Beowulf and the Critics ed
2005 Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings (full version)
2007 The Children of Húrin
2007 The History of The Hobbit
2008 Tales from the Perilous Realm
2009 The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún
2013 The Fall of Arthur
2014 Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary
2015 The Story of Kullervo
2016 A Secret Vice
2016 The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun
2017 Beren and Lúthien
2018 The Fall of Gondolin
2021 The Nature of Middle-earth
2022 The Fall of Numenor
What’s stopping this fat fucker?
Doordash did a number on that mf
He needs more time to think up tax policies, please understand
Obviously getting rich in his old age and then having to decide between sitting in a room typing a character at a time to finish his book or just enjoy his short time on Earth.
he is, indeed, the american tolkien
He'll never be Tokien.
Tolkien finished LOTR
From this is obvious that Martin plans to live for 150 years or at the very least hopes for some sort of brain in a vat type of scenario. Dunno about how he's going to type the books without a body, but we will figure it out!
GRRMs brain in 2123: dreams of spring is 75% complete
>Leave A Dream of Spring to me.
Might as well make up your own ending, 'cause he ain't finishing the books
He probably gets so horny writing sex scenes that he has to stop and jerk off, then moves on doing other things. This is the only reason why winds is taking too long
The truth is probably much simpler: he's slower now, he's not that motivated anymore and untangling his crossings narratives is difficult as fuck. I do think that deep down GRRM would like to finish his magnum opus, but he knows that's not happening and the best hope he has is delivering Winds, and that's a big If already, but he keeps pushing himself to finish it and that's a major source of avoidance for him.
you know if someone had defrauded him in a crypto scam then he would be under threat of poverty and be forced to finish way sooner.
What if JK Rowling finished the books?
dany wins
I would rather eyedrop acid than read that.
>And then the white walkers said "TRANS RIGHTS" and stretched their legs southwards
Making the white walkers explicitly evil like that is boring, but exactly what a hack like Rowling would do.
Just shut the fuck up and let him go at his own pace.
All you will get is the D&D ending. Give it up already
Is he competing with Oda (One Piece) or Togashi (Hunter x Hunter / Hiatus x Hiatus) at this point?
He's more of a Miura-type of racer by now. Speeeding to his deathbed and blueballing us all.
But Miura let his assistants "finish" berserk, the fat fuck won't let anyone touch his...
How'd he "let" them? They use a ouija board to ask his permission?
Gave them tips and how the plot was going to progress before dying iirc
>still falling for that blatant lie
guy is a conman and stole Berserk 100%. how much its fumbled and can't even get chapters out tells the tale. not to mention the nonsense of "and then casca is captured...le AGAIN" fuck off what a disgusting piece of shit for immediately capitalizing on Miuras death.
Casca getting kidnaped again makes sense. What doesn't is Griffith suddenly spawning on the island with no explanation, and that's actually how you realize that her getting captured was in the notes but the "how" wasn't.
You know that it's never going to be his ending, no matter how much he gave them. You are right about him letting them finish being better than whatever dead man's switch GRRM planned.
oda has had consistent output for over 20 years. longest break he's taken has been like 4 or 5 weeks.
Lol, the fat fuck will be dead within 5 years, and TWOW still won't be finished.
Fake news. WoW is coming out this Christmas or early Feb tops, ADoS comes out the winter after that. Next 3-4 years and ASOIAF will be complete.
He is gonna die before releasing the final book. It will probably be picked up and written by Sanderson. What a shame, I hate that stupid fag.
>Sanderson
Terrible. He's only for magic system autism.
who would you trust to take over and finish this shit? Take all of his retarded notes and tell him to fuck off and finish the books.
Take all of his retarded notes and
There are no notes, anon. There are some cool plot twists like "Hodor" that were already spoiled by the show and a vague idea where main characters like Daenerys and Tyrion will end up. If the original author can't finish the story in 30 years ( he began writing ASOIAF in 1993) no writer for hire will be able to finish it.
>who would you trust to take over and finish this shit?
There can only be one.
Turns out a fat nihilist pervert doesn't understand how to write a satisfying or memorable ending! Shocker
>write a satisfying or memorable ending!
Game of thrones ending was certainly memorable, but for the wrong reason, kek.
HAHAHA I CANT BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE HE MANAGED TO STRING ALONG FOR MORE THAN A DECADE
WHAT A FUCKING SCAM
Who's going to be the next fantasy author to steal his limelight once people get sick of dragonshit?
It's not going to be the author stealing the spotlight, but the adaptation. Don't know. Maybe The Fallout TV Show (I know, not a book) or The Three Body Problem, but them again this one is being done by the GOT hacks.
I can tell you it's not going to be any of the other fat fuck fantasy writers who never finished their series.
even if it dropped right now, out of the blue, no one would care anymore. game of thrones is pretty much dead. Maybe things will pick up once the second season of house of the dragon comes out, but that could be YEARS from now.
>even if it dropped right now, out of the blue, no one would care anymore.
You are out of a damn mind if you really believe that.
You're really over-estimating the amount of people that care about the novels, especially now that the pop culture fad of GoT has died down so massively after it ended. Of course there's quite a few autists that would lap it up, but the overall cultural impact of this book finally coming out after over a decade of waiting would be a wet fart. It it had come out during the run of GoT it would be a massive thing, but not anymore.
Calling thrones a fad is the biggest understatement I've read in a while. Why do people insist on being delusional and detached from reality?
People said the same when HotD initially came out but it was a mega hit. You'd be foolish to believe that nobody will care at this point. Every time GRRM farts it makes the nerd news. Fuck, you're in a thread rn about him saying it's almost done for the millionth babillionth time.
this homosexual is gonna live for a maximum of 10 years more. just accept he will never finish it and move on.
>he will never finish it
50% of Winds of Winter is just cut content from ADWD and the remaining 50% he's had 12 years to write. He's finished with Winds of Winter already but he's not released it yet cause he's writing ADOS right now and may need to revise events in Winds based on what direction he wants to go ith in ADOS.
ADOS and Winds will come out either together or within a year of each other, but they WILL come out.
this is the exact type of homosexual I’m referring to from the threads last year. Probably the actual same. beyond saving at this point. Can’t wait for Grrm to die and see how you cope then.
He took one whiff of German pornstar bush and he was placated forever. Why ever continue working when you can just use your millions to buy foreign pussy
He’s never going to finish it and he doesn’t care and he doesn’t like you.
I am going to kidnap that fat fuck lock him in my dungeon and force him to write the last 2 books on a diet of bread and water.
In Minecraft, r-right?
>not putting him on an IV diet to maximize productivity.
>not putting in a catheter and rectal tube to eliminate “potty breaks”
>not sedating for six hours, then jacking him full of amphetamines for eighteen hours of frenzied writing
>not having inter-testicular electrode implantation to encourage compliance
>not promising the sweet release of death upon completion of six more books
It’s a good start, anon, but there’s so much more you could do with that setup.
jej
He doesn't happen to frequent any abandoned northern retreats, does he?
Bro is 2024 who cares about game of thrones anymore
I started reading ASOIAF when I was 15. I am now 41. Fuck you, George.
He's not going to read your post, anon.
Wrong. He's not going to write.
That too.
you are wrong, I read it
I hope guys like Preston, LML and a bunch of others one day get together, fire up some LLM and just finish the story in the most autistic way possible. That would be a sight to see, lads.
Did Preston ever try writing his own fantasy or sci fi books?
Also, who's LML?
https://lucifermeanslightbringer.com/
I remember him saying he was writing one on the channel a couple years ago but I think the great crowdsourced autstic fanfiction project might have taken its place.
He will never end it. He is a bad author and knows that. He'll drag it out until he does because he can't properly end it.
What? Why is this news? Did they change the meaning of the word "new"?
I used to give the old fatso a lot of understanding, but it's been so fucking long now and he's clearly abandoned the people who made him famous (his bookfans) so he can go play around with other projects and never finish the series.
Stephen King, who is famously bad at endings and is a total loon on social media, gets my respect for this reason: King's Dark Tower series had been an ongoing series for his entire career. His fans would eagerly await each new entry, but King got a bit complacent and lazy about writing them. Then one day King had a near death experience when he was hit by a drunk driver and he very nearly died. King decided "OK, I need to get to work and finish my magnum opus - my fans deserve it" and he finished off the last 2/3 books in a few years.
This is why King (despite his faults and flaws) is the King, and why Martin is a fat old hack who got butthurt that his audience was smarter than he figured and they had already figured out in his first book that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. He is crying that nobody liked the planned ending of Bran being on the throne and rage quit.
Entitlement is one of the worst attributes a fan can have. Serious question, if you become massively rich and famous for your own OC would you give a fuck if your fans lost respect for you because you're taking your time on the next project?
That's not even remotely the same scenario. First of all, I'm sure anon is not an obese 75yo, maybe obese kek but not on death's door.
>On deaths door
>"Oh no I'm widely beloved everywhere I go but I lost the respect of my most dramatic fans"
Yes? Once you have enough money, fan adoration becomes more important. Most writers don't write to get rich since there's not usually much money in it.
No you wouldnt.
>entitlement
>worst
It's not entitlement when you actually deserve it. Without me spending money on the fat fucks soft porno and shitposting about it online he would never have received the type of exposure and engagement he got. He's rich because of me and therefore he owes me what he marketed, a full complete series. If he had marketed his books as a half written trilogy that will abruptly stop at the most climatic part of the story would anybody have bought his retarded books?
Grrm owes me the books personally, period.
Fucking retarded mindset. It's not like you donated money out of he kindness on your heart. You paid for one book and then loved it so much you paid for another. He doesn't owe you shit just because your dumbass invested too much and are left unfulfilled. You should be thanking him for even giving you something that you value enough to spend money on in the first place. If the books ever do come out you should be grateful he didn't just scribble a bunch of dicks on the page just to fuck with you.
fans holding you up to some type of standard isn't "entitlement" you homosexuals love to use that stupid ass word whenever you want to seem cool for being apathetic
and besides that point, the customers are fully within their right to complain about whatever they want. people are allowed to bitch and moan. it's not up to you to arbitrate.
if you have no respect for your customer base, or other people in general, you deserve to lose all of your money and die just as unknown as you were when you were born
what you're saying is just flat out bad business, nevermind completely fucking gay
>fans holding you up to some type of standard isn't "entitlement" you homosexuals love to use that stupid ass word whenever you want to seem cool for being apathetic
Im not apathetic. I want the books as much as anyone else and I'll be fucking ecstatic when they finally drop. Also there's a difference between holding someone up to a standard critically and feeling like you're owed something just because if your own personal investment.
>customers are fully within their right to complain about whatever they want
Correct and I'm within my right to call you an entitled homosexual. What did Mommy not say "no" to you enough? Grow up.
>if you have no respect for your customer base
If he had no respect he would just quickly shit them out while GoT was at it's peak for a quick payday. He wants to make them right and finish it the way he wants it. Also the irony about you complaining about respect but give none yourself.
There's a fanfiction called The North Remembers which does a decent job continuing and finishing the story. It's fanfiction so there's some sȯy and feminism here and there but overall it feels like a professional work.
I spent the last 5 years saying that at least TWOW he would likely finish it. Now I'm not even sure he wrote anything of significance at all. Time and time again he squirms and throw some bone claiming progress, but he burnt every chance at redemption with nothing to show for it. I bet most of this so called progress was rewriting that left him at the roughly the same number of pages since when Dance was published.
just be glad you finally snapped out of it. some never will. they’ll be posting in the year 2030 still insisting it’s coming out
It's a tough one to swallow after all this time, but yeah, fuck that. Time to move on.
>show completely muddied my memories of the books with changed character names, deleted/changed characters and plotlines
>mfw even under the best of circumstances where the next books was released tomorrow I'd have to reread all of the old ones just to remember all the plotlines except for Jon and Dany's
>mfw I'd then have to reread them all again a decade later when the final book miraculously comes out right before GRRM dies
I just don't think I can do it. I'd just check online to see if my theories came true.
>scope creep: the author
someone should write a novelization of the hbo show and put some of the good stuff from the books that didn't make it into the show in there, and also stretch out the ending an extra season like the cast begged d&d and not make the second half of the show all homosexual quips
>stretch out the ending an extra season like the cast begged d&d
GRRM wanted this. Nearly everyone in the production just wanted it to end
He gave up writing years ago. He’s just gonna lie about it until he dies
>"Releases" the winds of winter on his website when he dies
>It's just hundreds of pictures and video of him fucking prostitute's over the years
>"You really thought I was still writing that shit?"
Would be based
grrm should just get this guy to finish it
both books would be released by the middle of next year
After this and The Doors of Stone I'll never read another fantasy author again. I always considered the genre to be fucking nerd shit when I was at School and these fuckers have cemented my hatred for the genre.
Just read authors who have a track record of consistent releases for at least five years.
Don’t fall into the trap of seeing someone being productive for a few years and thinking it’s going to continue, because chances are that’s their publisher riding their ass in the hope of launching a new name, which sometimes works, but also can lead to a series being dropped halfway through when it fails to meet expectations, or worse leads to a Martin or Rothfuss situation.
I much prefer the urban fantasy genre tbh and read all of the Dresden files among others. Jim Butcher is pretty consistent.
Jim Butcher USED TO BE consistent. He molted and embraced his inner redditor and has been slacking off and writing really low quality trash for 10 years
Sadly true.
Peace talks was a real slog to get through, I haven't read the most recent book because I wasn't aware he'd bring two out in the same year.
Storyline has gone off the rails a bit recently with so many loose ends.
He got Scott Lynched, but was able to pull through.
Hopefully he managed to get his shit together. The fact he called NuWars worse than the holiday special is somewhat reassuring.
Changes was the last truly good one I think. Ghost Story was okay but very disjointed. Cold Days was okay because it had such a good premise and backstory to work with, but if you consider it in isolation it was honestly pretty shit. Later books are just poorly written cringe fests. The worst thing is that they've soured me on the old books too - can't reread them without thinking about what the series actually became.
Dubs and the fat fuck gets a blood clot and dies alone on the floor shitting and pissing himself as his dying mind floods with regrets and hallucinations of demons dragging him to hell this year
The more he thought the more he shat. The more he shat the more pensive he grew.
ruh roh
For real, why are you guys so eager to see this book series end? just because you read the books? are guys that invested in the sub-plots and characters? do you want to know who will sit on the iron throne?
It will probably end up being similar to the TV show ending just a bit more nuanced and where no one is a winner. Probably even insert the idea of voting or some bullshit. Probably even forgot about Bran's seer powers.
I just want to see what Quentyn will get up to while he masquerades as a sellsword in Essos, and find out the real ending for Patchface.
George confirmed that each characters ending will be the same as in the books. Jaime will die in Cerseis arms, Dany will go nuclear resulting in Jon killing her, Jon will end up with he wildlings, Bran will be king, tyrion will be the hand, Sansa will be Queen of the Norf, Arya will fuck off west. It's all just going to be told in a way that isn't rushed and slapped together.
The ending isn't the point, the journey is. For example Jon will end up with the wildlings, but only because he's a sentient corpse like Coldhands and must stay where winter is. Because Melly does not have the life force necessary to do a Thoros-style revival and so his only shot is to warg back into his own frozen corpse.
Also Cersei's prophecy will actually come to pass which will be fulfilling, instead of just ignoring it out of laziness.
>Sansa will be Queen of the Norf
delusional
Sansa will never go to the north ever again.
Sanderson is the best writer in the galaxy since he leaves no story undone.
This is why I refuse to read series that don't have actual endings. I had to suffer through Dune, now I just read shit like Book of the New Sun or Black Company because I know it has a conclusive ending.
Black Company show when?