Genie

>Aladdin
1) Can't kill anyone
2) Can't make people fall in love with anyone else
3) Can't bring back the dead
4) Only three wishes

>Wish Dragon
1) Can't kill anyone
2) Can't time-travel
3) Can't make people fall in love with anyone else
4) Only three wishes

>Bruce Almighty
1) Can't tell anyone about the godhood
2) Can't interfere with freewill
3) Unlimited wishes until God comes back

Without the malicious genie plot point, what is a good mix of rules for a genie plot to work?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a good rule in general would be that a genie can't affect that thoughts, feelings and personalities of humans, not just 'can't make people fall in love'
    because otherwise it's never explained why aladdin didn't just ask the genie to make the sultan agree marry jafar to him even if she didn't want to, or why he couldn't force her to at least consider going on a date with him and doing the whole showing her the world bit without first proving to her dad that hes all rich n shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >didn't just ask the genie to make the sultan agree marry jafar to him even if she didn't want to, or why he couldn't force her to at least consider going on a date with him and doing the whole showing her the world bit without first proving to her dad that hes all rich n shit
      >marry jafar
      Jasmine

      To be fair, the whole thing about Bruce Almighty was that Morgan Freeman was teaching him a lesson that being God isn't as easy as he thinks.

      That was the point but add it there because I liked the can't interfere with freewill rule.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Jasmine
        i didnna ask ja a question, min

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, the whole thing about Bruce Almighty was that Morgan Freeman was teaching him a lesson that being God isn't as easy as he thinks.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what kind of cartoons does MENA have?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whenever I come up with a genie plot, I always make it a point that there are like a thousand rules, so the genie always says "so don't bother about them. Just tell me what you want and I tell you whether it is allowed"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that just how Fairy Oddparents work?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        maybe
        the only thing that matters is that the author remembers the rules that are established, to not contradict himself in the future

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes and ironically the genie is one of the only wish granting entities in the show who can grant wishes without any rules attached.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It had to balance out the 3 wish limit.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1)unlimited wishes
    2)benign monkey's paw rules
    3)genie is girlfriend material

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I never saw the point of the rules. Like, Aladdin's not going to ask the genie to kill someone for him. Neither is Jafar, because he cleverly empowers himself to do it instead. So why establish these rules in the first place if they're never relevant?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well the falling in love one is kinda obvious because it would make it a really short movie considering Al’s goal is to win over Jasmine.

      The not raising the dead one dismisses why Aladdin wouldn’t immediately resurrect his dead parents. In earlier drafts of the film, it was a bigger deal that he was an orphan.

      The not killing one is to just make things slightly harder and to shut up the autists in the audience that might ask “why doesn’t [character] just wish that [other character] was dead???” to solve all kinds of problems. Sure, you can say that it’s smarter of Jafar to just wish for power and then to try to use that power to kill people, but after he fails at that for plot reasons, you just know you woulda gotten that one guy whining “He could have wished for Aladdin to be dead and then he’d be 100% sure once and for all,” if there wasn’t specifically a mechanism preventing him. Also, you just know that forcing Genie to kill Al is the kinda fricked up sadistic power move he’d pull just for shits and giggles.

      And as for Aladdin not wanting to wish people dead? I’m not totally sure. He’s generally a good guy and all, and I think he’d be reluctant to kill anybody, yeah. But, as of his status at the beginning of the first movie, I don’t think he has any solid code of ethics against killing anybody.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Can't kill anyone
    > Can't bring back the dead
    What if you wished someone had stage 4 cancer? Or wished someone who died never had the thing that killed them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Genie is like a referee that gets to sit there and say “Nah, I’m not gonna allow that workaround.” Maybe that’s why genies need to be sentient in the first place, instead of the character just getting a magic wish granting talisman.

      Jafar as a genie would probably both allow and encourage loopholes like that, though.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rule 14) No wishing for more genies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why 14?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's such a ridiculous amount of technicalities to get around any restrictions, that rules for genies are basically a moot point and function at best as a guideline to set the tone for the story.
    At best you can come up with some rules that prevent the most outrageous blatant frickery, that would instantly break the story.
    Sure Aladdin's genie can't kill anyone, but Jafar is governed by the same rules and had no problems transporting Abis Mal into the bottom of the ocean after he wished for treasure.
    He'd absolutely give people terminal ass cancer without any issues and would animate corpses to act like they're alive, while not necessary bringing them back to life.
    Genie himself fricks with people however he wants after being freed, so he's not truly limited either. This chick got her life remodeled just because genie wanted to pull off a gag.

    It all comes down to how the genie is written along with the character wishing for things.
    Is the genie neutral? Then anything goes.
    Malicious? He will do whatever he wants to frick with you, no matter what safeties you try to put in place to the wishes.
    Then there's the good guy Aladdin genie, who's more of a general helper and won't solve problems for you. Usually not even that big of a player in the story at the end of the day.
    You can't wish for a 40 strong e-girl harem that will follow you around and jerk you off in public. It would go completely against the tone this type of a genie sets.

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