Giving hints that Deckard is a Replicant is possibly the most retarded idea Scott could come up with.

Giving hints that Deckard is a Replicant is possibly the most retarded idea Scott could come up with.

Not only it makes no sense in the context of the movie
>why take the risk of sending a Replicant to hunt down other Replicants?
>why even build a Replicant with the strength of a human to hunt down stronger Replicants?
It also makes ZERO sense from a moral perspective, since the whole point of the story is Deckard realizing Replicants can be as human as him (if not more), thus allowing him to rediscover his own humanity.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just the meta argument pseuds can have while not having to watch the movie or understand it's themes. Ignore it like the rest of us and let redditors and imdbeaners duke it out.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the whole point of the story is Deckard realizing Replicants can be as human as him
    It was the replicants' status as corporate property that made humans view them as "less than human". They were dehumanized by their slavery, not by their psychological differences. The parallel with Deckard is that he's not free either, the station sends cops to drag Deckard out of retirement and puts the origami guy on his ass so he can't just walk away.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It was the replicants' status as corporate property that made humans view them as "less than human". They were dehumanized by their slavery, not by their psychological differences.
      Replicants don't have empathy and they die when they turn four. They're not human. The reason they're hunted on Earth is they're physically superior to humans but have no emotions to hold them back from killing people, and because they're banned from Earth every replicant that's on Earth has to have escaped from offworld and probably killed people in the process.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Replicants can develop empathy, that's why they're hardwired to die at the age of four. If you would have a replicant that has been allowed to live longer than that then he would develop human emotions and thus become basically indistinguishable from other people if he wanted to.
        The whole tears in rain scene is to show you that Roy became human DESPITE living less than 4 years. Their lack of holding back is solely out of fear and desperation, not becouse of physical differences.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're physically different and it's prudent to avoid letting a competitor species get any advantage over us on our home territory. Same reason we have wildlife refuges and national borders and your boat has to be checked for zebra mussels.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Each of them is genetically made to fit their job. The simple labourer rep was way stronger than a normal man, the prostitute rep was increadibly athletic (kek) and the Roy being the soldier replicant was both increadibly strong and increadibly smart. It wasn't about a competitor species since they can't reproduce. It's basically a tale of a tragic people used as slaves due to being "lesser" men that simply want to live, and they can't even get that due to being engineered as slaves.

            >they're hardwired to die at the age of four.

            But thats wrong, the scientist said they are made as well as they can

            Tyrell literally said that there's no undoing to the age at which they die becouse it's partially connected to how superhuman they are, meaning the strength and intelligence.
            "a candle that burns twice as bright also burns twice as fast" or something like that.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It wasn't about a competitor species since they can't reproduce.
              They kill people and Tyrell is attempting to give them the ability to reproduce.

              I wouldn't say it's tragic. Some industrial machinery goes haywire and has to be decommissioned. Your electric car escapes and runs over a family, then babbles about how fun it is to drive and look at the pretty mountains when you reach for the power button. Time for a new car.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pretty sure they're not doing all of that to get the ability to reproduce, instead doing all of that to just live longer.
                It would not be tragic had it not been estabilished that they're actually sentient. Yeah the only way out of this that is good for humanity is decommisioning them, but it's still fucking sad.
                If the car ran over a family for a reason, in this case the reason being living longer, then it's more human than a lot of things. Even if you had to turn it off.

                >You can`t tell them apart from people.
                Even if they pass the Voight-Kampf test you can withdraw some bone marrow and tell them apart.

                > if the androids have souls, if souls are not exclusive of human beings you have to find another answer about what makes a human and human. What gives humans the right to exploit the replicants?
                We make them in factories.

                If we took human eggs from anonymous donors, impregnated them with sperm donors and grew them in incubators, would that give us the right to exploit them as mere hardware?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The more human a competitor becomes, the more it becomes a threat. Chickens are nice and docile, so we farm them. If they started carrying guns and driving cars, we'd have to kill them. The tragedy would be that they were allowed to get so far. The tragedy in Blade Runner is that Tyrell is making industrial machines that can fool people into thinking they're human and they regularly come to Earth and go on killing sprees and no one has put a stop to it, and there are Chinese people everywhere.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and let's not forget, in the book the androids were made by ~~*Rosen*~~ instead of Tyrell.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"a candle that burns twice as bright also burns twice as fast" or something like that.
              That was Tyrell being a cheeky cunt and persuading Roy to accept his death. Like "look bro you may die early but you lived HARDER and that's fucking cool innit".

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, yeah, Tyrell was a cunt when it comes to stuff like that, but he had all the reason there was to give the rogue replicants what they wanted, had it been possible. Moreover since they were basically at the top and had all the access they could need, it's more than guaranteed that Roy and Co. made sure that there was no other way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they're hardwired to die at the age of four.

          But thats wrong, the scientist said they are made as well as they can

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a mind game. Deckard is human. There would be no difference even if he wasn't a human, becouse he sees himself as human. They're perfect copies of humans after all, only recognisable by microscopic elements that aren't vital to the entity itself.
    That, combined with Deckard realising that psychologically Roy is no different from any other human being, makes him question his own humanity even though he has been hunting replicants his whole career.
    TL:DR
    Deckard is a human but realising that given enough time replicants are not only physically but also psychologically the same makes him question stuff.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you should read a book, its not even big, about two evenings

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine to imply because it's a fun question, but Final Cut pushes it far past implication into basically confirming it which is too silly

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the uncertainty of the ending, however it was all blown out of the water with 2049.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The movie is just about pushing the concept that all races are equal, don't mistake it for some sci-fi shit it's just about "blacks and whites are the same! see?!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The movie doesnt mean anything and doesnt even try to say anthing, it's just pretty visual design.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why take the risk of sending a Replicant to hunt down other Replicants?

    Because actual current blade runners could not get the job done? Holden was the best and he was trashed. Also, it is a corporate dystopia so Tyrell corporation can do whatever the fuck they want.

    >why even build a Replicant with the strength of a human to hunt down stronger Replicants?

    So that Deckard, a replicant built as a blade runner, would not immediately notice himself. As for the message of the movie i think the message is for the audience, not for Deckard. What the movie is trying to convey is that replicants are not like any other machine but like people. You can`t tell them apart from people. You thought you could, but you can`t because they do dream, they do have souls. And that`s were things get interesting because the movie is saying that if the androids have souls, if souls are not exclusive of human beings you have to find another answer about what makes a human and human. What gives humans the right to exploit the replicants?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can`t tell them apart from people.
      Even if they pass the Voight-Kampf test you can withdraw some bone marrow and tell them apart.

      > if the androids have souls, if souls are not exclusive of human beings you have to find another answer about what makes a human and human. What gives humans the right to exploit the replicants?
      We make them in factories.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why take the risk of sending a Replicant to hunt down other Replicants?
    Why take the risk of sending a human to hunt down replicants? Replicants are grunts who do the shit and risky jobs. It would make sense to send a disposable human to do a job where they might get disposed of.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deckard is. replicant because the simple fact is his eyes glowed red just like every other android. Why do people refuse to accept that?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The question of whether Deckard is really human or a replicant himself is literally directly from the book. There is an entire section in the middle where Deckard goes to a 'fake LAPD' dedicated to it
    PKD loved pithy twists and double-twists

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This guy would have made blade runner based. fat slob comedy kino

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