“Barbie,” which Gerwig directed and co-wrote, added another $53 million from 4,178 North American locations this weekend and $74 million internationally, bringing its global total to $1.03 billion, according to studio estimates on Sunday. The Margot Robbie-led and produced film has been comfortably seated in first place for three weeks and it’s hardly finished yet. It crossed $400 million domestic and $500 million internationally faster than any other movie at the studio, including the Harry Potter fil
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Not Cinemaphile
Also the subtext of this film is way less woke once you actually see what it's doing beyond the surface
>Also the subtext of this film is way less woke once you actually see what it's doing beyond the surface
Don't tell me, you're an autistic Goosegay who thinks the movie is secretly about men's rights?
i hate those brain damaged morons bending over backwards to try to claim it's a pro male movie.
Drive and the Literally Me meme gave brain damage to men.
If you leave after "I'm just Ken" song, then the Ken movie is probably the most pro-male movie in popular culture since Fight Club.
And American Beauty
>the right claimed Tanya
As expected from a group of pedophiles.
It's certainly not "pro-male" but it absolutely does play directly into some deeply held incel talking points.
For example, take the relationship between Ken and Barbie at the end of the movie. Barbie, the main character of the movie, gets a classic main character happy ending where the challenges she's overcome throughout the movie have forced her to grow as a person. In the end, she leaves Barbie land and forges a new identity for herself as a real woman in the real world who doesn't have to rely on Ken for fulfillment. Happy, right?
Here's the thing though. Barbie never had to rely on Ken for anything. The big change to Barbie's character, her big happy ending, is one where she realizes that she doesn't even want Ken at all.
By the end of the movie, Ken has nothing. He lives in a society where he has no power, respect, or influence. He has no skills, no vocation, he doesn't even have a home to call his own. Incels (correctly) identify the similarities between the gynocracy of Barbie Land and our modern society. The difference is that while Ken decides that having nothing, not even a Barbie to give his heart to, is "good Kenough", incels want more.
It's as much Cinemaphile as Transformers or Teenage Midget Turtle Ninja. No one here can accept its success, so they're finding reasons why it can be redefined to not be woke
>It's as much Cinemaphile as Transformers or Teenage Midget Turtle Ninja.
Anon, those two have had several shows, comics and animated movies. We talk about those, the exception being Transformers. Just accept that you felt like annoying people on a Sunday because not much else is going on in your life.
Barbie also has a lot of shitty cgi movies and some comics i think
>several shows, comics and animated movies.
Barbies' had animated movies and cartoons though.
I didn't find a cartoon, but it did have an animated web series of 72-ish episodes (frick, I just closed the tab, how did I already forget?)
TMNT started as a fricking comic
TMNT started as a comic
Transformers is only discussed for Cinemaphile adaptions like Barbie is
Enjoy the vacation
Barbie didn't have any animated adaptions until decades after she debuted. At least Transformers released an animated series during the intial toy run and TMNT was always a comic first. If you want to discuss Barbie on Cinemaphile then bring up Life in the Dream House easily her best adaptation.
No, it's comparable to Bratz, and the only place where you can discuss it is
. Get some real friends too.
What's the plot of the movie?
Why is this woke/not woke/whatever?
A plot is mum and daughter connect over a toy. Basically the female equivalent of the Lego Movie.
B plot is men destroy society because they can't get pussy.
Actually quite funny, Gosling obviously enjoyed himself so that was nice to see.
You're on Cinemaphile anon
Hi mom!
It’s literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don’t think you’re good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we’re always doing it wrong.
You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but you also have to be thin. You have to have money, but you cant ask for money because that’s crass. You have to be a boss, but you can’t be mean. You have to lead, but you can’t squash other people’s ideas. You’re supposed to love being a mother, but don’t talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman, but always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men’s bad behavior which is insane, but if you point that out, you’re accused of complaining.
You’re supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you’re supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful.
You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line.
It’s too hard! It’s too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault.
I’m just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don’t even know.
It's literally impossible to be a man. Society expects us to be strong and emotionless, but also sensitive and understanding. We're supposed to be successful providers, yet not show any signs of weakness or vulnerability. We have to navigate the pressure of conforming to traditional masculine stereotypes, yet be supportive and respectful to others. It's a constant struggle to find balance and avoid being judged. And like you said, nobody gives us a medal or acknowledges our efforts. It's tough to keep up with all the contradictory expectations and demands. Sometimes, it feels like we're set up to fail, and it can be exhausting.
There is simply no way to say that two groups of people can have problems, but it's possible for one group to have a few more problems without it coming across as oppression Olympics. But it IS true. For example, men don't have nearly as many cannibalizing aspects where people go, "FRICK THOR, HE'S CREATING UNREALISTIC STANDARDS FOR MEN!" and gets boycotted by extremist groups. Meanwhile, things like LEGO & Friends, Monster High, or Barbie are shat on for pushing "pink and dresses" onto girls.
The whole push for LGBTQ+ groups ends up benefiting men a lot more than women. Look at how women who dislike the trans-movement have a specific term with "TERF" while men are just general transphobics. Look at how sensitive men are pushed more in media while female characters are STILL doing the 90's action girl trope. Fricking Mario still fell for that trap with Peach, but Mario is allowed to show his brotherly love for Luigi with no problems and no subversions.
Even Greta Gerwig is having all her accomplishments labelled as, "The highest grossing movie DIRECTED BY A WOMAN!", because she will always be seen as woman first, person second. It is not a put-down to say that everyone has problems, but some people have a a few more problems than others. You can believe in equality without believing that all problems are equal.
yeah all i wanted to do was yell
>men have problems with societal expectations too, lady
i thought the beginning was good but it went off the rails after that speech.
have a nice day at the most immediate possible moment
Go first, don't wait for me.
lol, fake numbers. This is the same bullshit they pulled when they tried to make Captain Marvel seem like it was Mavel Studios' biggest hit.
bro, real talk, I just saw this with my wife this week at a 10:30pm Thursday showing because every earlier time was sold out this week at three different theaters. Also, it was crowded. I cannot remember the last time a movie was this popular
>I cannot remember the last time a movie was this popular
Endgame?
It's not that long ago.
Endgame was an EVENT though, it had years of build up. No one really cared about this movie outside of the fact Ryan Gosling was starring in it.
We watched it during the premiere and it was the first time my local theatre was packed since the quarantine.
honestly, that was my closest mental comparison but even then we saw that pretty early on without trouble. I don't recall waiting 5 days more than a week after release before giving up on finding an earlier showing and just going at 10:30 in a large metro area.
Checked Satan. Also, let me guess, she had you pay for the tickets
I haven't seen anybody that's watched it yet. When I bring it up, nobody knows it's currently in the box office.
Wouldn't surprise me if after all the feminist flops, they decided to pile up some money to make one look good.
Probably says a lot about the people you know.
Lay off the Copium. It's only fake numbers when you don't like the film. Otherwise, you're fine with them, Demand a recount and storm the Capitol next.
Holy shit, is this Cinemaphilepe or are you guys living under a rock/"hanging out" with imaginary friends?
The fact grown men are obsessed with this movie is hilarious to me
>implying this movie was ever directed at children
It's PG-13 and aimed at adults. But even it wasn't, so what?
I prefer Jem. Too bad her movie sucked balls
not Cinemaphile
Talk to /toy/, Cinemaphile, or somebody who unironically has skin in the woke/notwoke narrative.
Go broke, get woke, ultimately CROAK.
Hey Razorfist
I wasn't aware Barbie was a previously male-oriented franchise.
Why'd you quote me? I literally just asked what the plot/story is of this movie.
It's a shill just spamming. All these threads are just advertising and redditors brigading on a rare win. Once the dust settles they'll crawl back to their holes.
When "get woke, go broke" fails them, there are two standard copes they use to explain it. One is to claim Blackrock is throwing millions upon millions of dollars at a complete failure because it had a sufficient amount of gay in it. The other is to claim it wasn't actually woke in the first place, but rather secretly based. They seem to have settled on the latter for this movie, just like they did with Mario. What's important here is that they never admit they were incorrect.
Mariochuds and Kencucks employ very similar tactics. One could argue Mariochuds were desperate to get a win on le woke critics so they switched to painting their movie as some kind of antithesis to Disney.
>sony gaystation fans still bitter that kiddie console is still around while they eagerly await goodbye volcano high
>falseflag alt righters complaining about peach, when it's actually leftists trying to aikido you into boycotting a nintendo thing because they have a vendetta because nintendo didn't support BLM in 2020
Heh, imagine writing your enemies list like this.
This is par the course for Nintendies. They are obsessed with being on top and loved by critics so when things don't go their own way they throw a fit.
>writing out your fanfics on a Atlantaen watercoloring forum
Imagine being you.
Imagine.
Oh yeah, I wrote all those schizo theories myself and made all those threads protecting Mario against le evil woke critics, kek.
This is what pretty much happened with the latter. People who say "Go woke, go broke" have an easy out. If it fails, it proves their point. If it succeeds, they try to find a way to say it isn't that woke or it's secretly based and on their side inadvertently.
So is the movie woke or not? What's it even about? I know next to nothing about it.
> female stronk is le woke
they are pushing this shit for a hundred years already, nothing new and women are still inferior and incapable as always
And you gays are hugging on for dear life the only movie that bucked the trend and ignoring the rest that didn't
Why are people calling this movie woke? This is classic 90's feminism. That's actually considered the opposite of modern-day woke since many 90's feminists are called TERFs now.
Woke is changing characters for the sake of diversity. Or pretending Barbie has to be a physically or emotionally strong character in order to be a role model. Or throwing in modern concepts out of the blue for the sake of inclusion where it wasn't needed or missed. If this movie was "woke", our MC would be Indian, there would randomly be a transgender Barbie despite Mattel never making one, and Barbie would NEVER be allowed to cry throughout the whole movie because that's seen as weak.
Instead, this movie sticks as wildly close to the actual designs of every Barbie imaginable and that's what people like-- accurate adaptation. They hate unnecessary change no matter the skin color. Stereotypical Barbie is also a fricking mess and constantly gives into her emotions even going as far as passing the protagonist role to other characters because she can't get out of her depression funk.
bawd shaming is good though
>It was 90's feminism
Was that "type" of feminism was as annoying as the movie shows?
What was annoying about it? That it's okay for women to be ordinary or that men don't need to have a girlfriend in order to have value? Ken's entire arc basically shuts down people who think "incel" and "virgin" are valid insults to men.
Only to insecure males.
There's a morbidly obese Barbie and a troony Barbie and everyone acts like they're just as desirable as the others.
There's also a perpetually pregnant Barbie. There's a Barbie in every shape and size because Mattel is constantly trying to hit every single demographic imaginable. All the Barbies based on real toys have accurate casting and then generic doctor or lawyer is just whoever else they wanted. And all the Kens desire them because they're literally programmed to desire the Barbies. They have to be woken up at the end that women are not the end-all-be-all goal for men. And the Barbies have to be convinced it's okay to let men into positions of power in their matriarchal society.
It is very 90's feminism.
>There's also a perpetually pregnant Barbie.
That's Midge
Is it even funny?
Like remember the Brady Bunch movie? Mocks but also celebrated what its parodying? Is it anything like that?
No it is not anything like the Brady Movie.
Shame. I liked those.
Well, the first one mostly.
>Like remember the Brady Bunch movie?
Barely.
>recasting the whole cast because everybody is older, and Robert Reed is dead and unpersoned for being gay
That's all I remember.
Should have figured this board would be flooded with Twitter migrants given events over the past year. kek
To be fair this doesn't undo "go woke go broke" it's an exception to the rule it had an insanely good marketing strategy and dumb luck with the Oppenheimer thing. It had Ryan Gosling in it who automatically puts butts in seats also the trailer basically lied.
still not Cinemaphile. Bro if you want to talk about the movie so badly at least make a life in the dream house thread. then again, I wouldn't want box office talk to shit up discussion about such a nice cartoon so don't even bother
>Go Wake
No. KYS.
I shall continue to dream
MOVED FROM Cinemaphile TO Cinemaphile LMFAO
shill thread
I'm still not watching Barbie.
Is it woke though? Certainly wasn't marketed as such.
I've been trying to get an answer to that question for the past 45 minutes or so.
Nobody is saying a damn thing.
Go broke, get woke, ultimately CROAK
The fact that they made an effort to deceive the audience and not market this as a Political Feminist rant film. Is a win the Go Woke Go Broke crowd.
They learned from the Ghostbusters fiasco
Unironically this. They hid the feminist stuff to a level on par with the Manhattan project
That cope works for opening weekend only.
Make the same movie with a fake doll brand, let's see then
Racebend then
Market it as a woke girlboss movie and add in dylan mulvaney
Lets see what happens
Just a reminder that op is a complete schizo that has spammed this board for the past month with the exact same thread and then samegays himself with his phone
>open thread
>zero discussion of plot points or their implications by people who haven't watched the movie
In what way, anon?
Feel free to go into detail.
Whoever's describing the movie in that post is obviously biased, but the verbatim quotes are enough to make me disinterested.
Its not woke. Even Ben Shapiro is pointing out some conservative aspects of it
Ken obtaining property, male comradery political power, pussy, brewski beers, and foot rubs all without needing Barbie's attention is positive as frick.
>pic
If your relationship was so fragile that irreconcilable differences over Barbie were the straw that broke the camel's back, it probably wasn't going to last another fortnight anyway.
>jews are getting rich because of a successful marketing campaign and a really low bar for decent movies
OK and
All your failures don't go away because you were able to make a profit capitalizing on a crown israeliteel IP that had never been seriously adapted.
i find it incredibly ironic that the kens were the women of barbie world and just wanted a fair shake and a seat at the table, yet at the end they're more or less told to frick off again. barbie world is restored to a matriarchy and men are given the scraps again. i can't tell if this was the intended message or not
Isn't that how the women's rights movement fared for a long while? First women were property, then they were given certain basic rights, then they got the right to vote, then they started to make their way into positions of power...
All this took thousands of years.
true, but it just seems strange that the heroes we're supposed to be rooting for go "ok, back to discrimination now" for the kens. a common criticism leveled against feminism is that it's for women only; the common response is that it's for all genders but then shit like this is cheered by the "feminist" barbies
Aristocratic and royalty women had a lot more power than people give history credit for. Queen Mary I was infamous for her warlord-like reign.
The human intervention brought a realistic perspective to BarbieLand. They get to live for themselves rather than someone's expectation and they get to reflect reality rather than create a paradise version of it. We see that what happens in BarbieLand affects the real world toy lines and vice versa. If Ken wants to be his own person and not just an accessory to Barbie, he can be.
And just like reality, the people in power are not going to give it up overnight. It would still be a utopia rather than a reflection if they did.
Go wakey, get bakey!