Going to settle this once and for all. This is a 10/10 film. It's probably the best film ever made. It is perfect.
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Going to settle this once and for all. This is a 10/10 film. It's probably the best film ever made. It is perfect.
tell us more
I'd like to tell you more, but I can't.
I'd like to tell you that it's a wonderful movie about realizing your self worth directed by Brad Bird -- BRAD BIRD B-I-R-D
I also do NOT advise you to watch it when you think there aren't any good super hero movies.
I'd like to tell you more, but there's nothing I can do.
I'M SORRY ANON, I KNOW YOU'RE UPSET.
pretend you didn't like the movie
The Beach (2000) is the best movie ever made. The incredibles is a very good movie though!
The beach STINKS
What's so great about it? The beach makes you age faster and you get old
Whoop de doo!
homie that's a children's movie
Good guess, but wrong.
>Gillman
>Has no gills and is no man
It's not perfect. It's incredible
Definitely Pixar's best film and the best superhero movie
Wall-E is their best film
Wall e was the most satanic movie I've ever seen
How do you figure?
How, it depicts Abrahamic themes and symbolism in a positive light despite Pixar being run by liberals.
The captain becomes a Noah who leads the ark away from corruption, Wall-e and eve like adam and eve.
abrahamists literally worship satan lmao
your bronze age desert cult is insane to anyone who actually thinks
I want to hear the explanation for this
he's brain rotted. the slightest amount of environmentalist theming sets off alarms in his peanut brain
which is especially ironic considering the recent right leaning traditional larp includes a return to nature so you'd think they'd be concerned with protecting/restoring that nature but nah thats gay or something
>ncludes a return to nature
conservationism and conservatism aren't the same thing.
no shit, i never confused the two. I simply said that the most recent wave of online conservatism includes a return to nature, therefore you'd think the same people wouldnt despise environmentalist messaging
>confuses two groups
>claims to never have confused the two groups
bait used to be believable
it quite literally mocks and degrades fat+sedentary lifestyles
t. fatass
Finding Nemo and Toy Story 1 were far better
the family arguing in Incredibles is so relatable it makes the movie painful to watch for me
Then I guess they did their job
I really hate to use this phrasing but, "it's a great movie, but not a good Pixar movie."
I think it would have been just as/more successful as a Dreamworks/Disney animated film since it's almost entirely Brad Bird and not so much a "Pixar movie". Pixar movies should not have human protagonists, and this is the glaring exception.
Trying to make "Pixar movies" instead of movies is what has been killing Pixar in the last few years. A studio shouldn't stick with the same formula forever.
Well that's just because Up turned "Pixar movies" into "cheap emotional manipulation"
Good Pixar ideas:
>what if your toys were conscious
>what if the monster under the bed had a society and lives of their own
>what if a fish had to go on a road trip to save his son from being trapped a fish tank
>what if a rat was a master chef
Shitty Pixar ideas
>what if your feelings had feelings
>what if souls had feelings
>what if elements had feelings
>What if humans had feelings
The Good Dinosaur was some hot garbage. When was the last time Pixar had back to back hits? Up and Toy Story 3? Since then I'd say the only ones you could call hits are Inside Out and Coco, and I feel like I'm being lenient.
Coco was ok but could have been a lot better if they didn't fall into their old formulas in the later half.
I keep forgetting it's a Pixar movie because it's the exact same twist villain template that Disney was using at the time. Not that it really makes a difference which studio makes it these days.
Exactly. The movie starts with an unique enough identity but kind of tosses it aside as it progresses and doesn't pick it back up until the very end.
Like most of people, you don't understand the Pixar formula at all.
It's not "what if X had feelings?", it's "what if we twisted/played around with X concept?" which often but not always translates as "what if X was concious?"
>Kids love their toys? But how much their toys love them back?
>Monsters in the closet? What if the monsters have an entire industry around scaring children?
>Rats are disgusting? What if a rat was a fancy french chef?
>The human mind? What if we represented it as concrete places and characters?
>It's not X
>It's just X most of the time
>What if Buzz Lightyear was real and in space or some shit
>What if a middle school girl turned into a Red Panda when she hit puberty and randomly got angry?
>What if we advertised for Vespa and a kid learned to be more adventurous?
>What if a black guy played music or something idk I didn't watch that one
>What if we remade Toy Story 3, the one we swore was the last one?
I can see how straying from that formula turned them into trash-tier movies
So Incredibles is...What if superheroes were a family?
Derivative.
You can easily rephrase 2 of your good ones as
>What if toys had feelings
>What if monsters had feelings
I get your thought process. It's not a "What if [THING] had feelings" movie. I don't think being a Dreamworks movie would have benefitted it though. You've gotta remember the absolute tear Pixar was on at this time. They could do no wrong.
>studios can only make one type of movie
>it’s a bad thing if they branch out
Do you have autism
Derivative.
I find it a miracle how a movie so obviously conservative as The Incredibles can have been created in recent times, even weirder when it was made not long after A Bug's Life, which is the most left-wing Pixar movie even if compared to their most movies.
Back in the day we could have diverse voices creating media. I wonder what happened.
Objectivism isn't even my personal belief, but I appreciate it just for not being another movie pushing a US coastal state progressive world view
Ah yes, a Bugs Life which is about the israelites taxing the common folk is left wing. Sure grandpa.
The movie has a very clear anticapitalist marxist way to present it's ideas, down to the lines the characters say.
>you're making a mista-ACK
>What no superherussy does to a man
Real talk, what killed Pixar?
Ligma
disney drained all their talented people for disney animation studio, canceled anyone who wouldn't go
Toy Story 2 and 3 plus Up kick started the "Pixar makes you cry" meme which everyone including the studio just took as their image, forgetting how laid back their earlier movies are.
And I guess a lot of the veteran staff has left at this point and the new staff just can't reproduce their style no matter how much they try.
Also, I believe they have been watching too much Ghibli movies to the point it's hurting their creativity, specially about the visuals.
>Toy Story 2 and 3 plus Up kick started the "Pixar makes you cry" meme which everyone including the studio just took as their image
"Up" was a short film that they turned into a pointless 90-minute long film. The only good part of that movie was the short film intro. The entire arc was already told.
Up is a very fun adventure movie, go frick yourself
Exactly. Up is a C-tier movie with a pwoerful short film slapped on top to trick people into feeling a glow of sentimentality as the random bullshit happens
Same thing that kills everything good in this world.
Jews.
I'd say firing Lasseter, but Luck was pretty shitty.
Sneed posting
after the success of toy story 1 the creative leaders of pixar sat down and wrote the plot outlines for their future movies, from "a bugs life" through "wall-e," in a single sitting.
they just never bothered to plan anything out after wall-e so they've been floundering ever since. the writing was on the wall since 2006 because "cars" wasn't part of that meeting, they took a pause from their master plan and the resulting turd was the warning sign we all missed.
as far as pixar movies goes, its second only to toy story.
weird how pixar has more shit movies then good ones now
I agree. Literally every scene, every line of dialogue, is great.
As some anon pointed out in previous incredibles thread, its kinda just Watchmen for kids
It's Watchmen without all the pretentious bullshit.
Name five pretentious things from Watchmen
alan moore. that's more than five.
Incredibles openly displays too much love for the genre to be a Watchman clone.
watchmen is about how superheroes make everything worse, the exact opposite of the incredibles.
Fricking based, love this movie
Recs for similar wholesome family films?
I didn’t like the sequel
The sequel felt like it was made just to make it. No energy in the story. Not to mention the villains sucked, and their motivation was even worse.
>she killed millions
what race was she supposed to be?
anglo-sexo
the main conflict doesnt make much sense. syndrome wants to give everyone powers but to what end? i know he says when everyone is super no one will be but is the message that supers are just better and non supers should know their place? kind of weird randian shit going on thematically with the film that never landed right with me
>villain's plan doesn't make perfect sense
if the plan made perfect sense he wouldn't be the villain.
all villains are illogical
He wants to take away the Supers power by giving everyone else that power (and leaving the most power for himself). And yeah, the message of The Incredibles is "Some people are just better" but that applies to everything. Syndrome's problem is that he didn't realize he had super intelligence. Or maybe it's that since Mr Incredible rejected it, he rejected it too. So, don't simp is another lesson.
i like that reading, that syndrome was super by way of his intellect but was too consumed by revenge to realize it. i wish the film leaned into this a bit more
The only issue with his plan was that he wanted to eliminate all supers before achieving equality. I don’t know if it’s clear but I think by the end mr incredible realises that he was being as butthole to billy and you don’t need powers to be special. Also the mother realises that you shouldn’t prevent your children from being themselves just to confirm. These don’t seem like bad messages to me.
Mr. Incredible was right, though. Buddy did NOT understand the dangers that came with being a super, and while Mr Incredible could have taught him that, he, being one of the top super heroes in the city, had basically zero time to devote to that. He barely had time to get married.
He has nice delts but his traps could use some work
Based. As time goes on, I think it's one of, if not Pixar's best movie.
It's a good movie but I never understood to reddit-tier cult surrounding the Incredibles. I enjoyed it but never cared to rewatch it as a kid, not over the previous Pixar movies... These are the same losers who shit on Cars and think Wall-E is transcendent kino
Every second of the film is fun, the music is kino, and the mother is a milf. What’s not to like?
I enjoy Incredibles more as an adult than as a kid personally. I couldn't appreciate scenes like Bob 'denying" an insurance claim until I was older.
>as a kid
The Incredibles is a lot better watch as an adult. Kids wouldn't get half the movie.
This, it's a family movie that is actually more enjoyable for adults than kids. I liked it as a child and love it as an adult.
Disney Presents, a Pixar Studios Production
Brad Birds: "The Watchmen"
Best superhero movie ever made, and one of the best movies ever made.
The Incredibles is probably one of the best 3D animated movies ever made. I agree.