I thought it had a good setup (And Dan Stevens as the man in the TV was a fun surprise), but I felt it just kind of ended with zero conclusion. I thought it was foreshadowing that Micucci's character was into taxidermy so at the end when she's "beautiful" she becomes a literal shell of who she used to be, and it turns out she's an empty skin filled with Styrofoam and wire to keep her shape, I felt that would've been a poetic, creepy way to end it, but that wasn't the case.
Watched the first four episodes, watching the fifth tonight.
Episode 1 was way too heavy-handed with its main character being an asshole (shouldn't be a surprise since del Taco wrote it himself), but I thought the main demon design by Guy Davis was cool, ultimately the Mexican lady seemed like a villain for trapping the main guy in the storage facility, even though I'm sure it wasn't del Taco's intent.
I enoyed episode 2 'Graveyard Rats' overall, but for trying to ape EC Comics/Tales From The Crypt, I felt like the ultimate fate of the main character didn't fit the crime. In EC Horror comics, usually the main character murders a secondary character for money or revenge, and is ultimately done in by the person they killed as a ghoul beyond the grave, I felt like they could've fixed this by making the shipping merchant be murdered by Masson so he can collect the treasure from his grave later, and have the shipping merchant's zombie be the ghoul groaning "MINE!" in the climax instead of some zombie evil priest. Otherwise enjoyed the EC Horror vibes and practical creature/monster effects.
Episode Three, The Autopsy, is one of the best cosmic/body horror tales Ive seen in a long time, and its all expertly written, directed, edited, and acted. it was great seeing F. Murray Abraham in a well written role and given a lot of great material to work with again after what seems like a decade or two of him being in shlock. David Prior needs to be given a large budget and creative freedom on his next project, this easily could've been expanded to feature film length, the finale and payoff are so satisfying I genuinely had chills at the end as the credits rolled. Expertly crafted and tightly constructed science fiction body horror.
The Autopsy is my favorite so far, I doubt any of the others will top it.
Watching it now.
The Outside is the fucking worst by far, you can tell it was written by a lez.
I liked the vibe of that one, but it should've ended with her walking into work and people screaming showing that she peeled all her skin off. Maybe they thought that was too cliche but it would've been more fun than gossip queen
This would have made a lot more sense and fit the themes so much more. The parts where she sees herself as hotter could have been shown to be all in her mind with everyone around shocked, terrified, and disgusted. The ending clearly shows she has snapped anyway, so it would have been very effective. As it is, the weird lotion being a living creature also made no sense, and it would have been more effective horror if it really was a simple as the stuff just giving her a horrible allergic reaction and she's too stupid to stop.
Even though it isn't perfect, I did think 'The Outside' was more honest about how women put more peer pressure on each other about their looks and are bitches to each other in-general than men are, the husband genuinely loves Micucci's character for who she is, which felt refreshingly honest compared to the usual narrative from mainstream media. The only reason a gorgeous, full-figured woman like Christina Hendricks isn't more successful in Hollywood is because of petty bitches that don't want to watch women that mog them on-screen.
The Outside was such a massive shlog to go through that I really wanted to just skip it. Absolute dogshit through and through and with the way the camera zoomed on everyone's faces so much it felt like the Director just found out that it could do that and decided to film most of the movie like that.
It was too "woman" to be interesting and felt like a shitty vanity project. When the actress starting making retarded faces at the end is when I went straight into the next episode
Watched the first four episodes, watching the fifth tonight.
Episode 1 was way too heavy-handed with its main character being an asshole (shouldn't be a surprise since del Taco wrote it himself), but I thought the main demon design by Guy Davis was cool, ultimately the Mexican lady seemed like a villain for trapping the main guy in the storage facility, even though I'm sure it wasn't del Taco's intent.
I enoyed episode 2 'Graveyard Rats' overall, but for trying to ape EC Comics/Tales From The Crypt, I felt like the ultimate fate of the main character didn't fit the crime. In EC Horror comics, usually the main character murders a secondary character for money or revenge, and is ultimately done in by the person they killed as a ghoul beyond the grave, I felt like they could've fixed this by making the shipping merchant be murdered by Masson so he can collect the treasure from his grave later, and have the shipping merchant's zombie be the ghoul groaning "MINE!" in the climax instead of some zombie evil priest. Otherwise enjoyed the EC Horror vibes and practical creature/monster effects.
Episode Three, The Autopsy, is one of the best cosmic/body horror tales Ive seen in a long time, and its all expertly written, directed, edited, and acted. it was great seeing F. Murray Abraham in a well written role and given a lot of great material to work with again after what seems like a decade or two of him being in shlock. David Prior needs to be given a large budget and creative freedom on his next project, this easily could've been expanded to feature film length, the finale and payoff are so satisfying I genuinely had chills at the end as the credits rolled. Expertly crafted and tightly constructed science fiction body horror.
I agree with most of what you wrote. The ultimate fate of the main character in EP2 didn't deserve it, but it was still a grim/interesting ending. What did you think of EP4?
I thought it had a good setup (And Dan Stevens as the man in the TV was a fun surprise), but I felt it just kind of ended with zero conclusion. I thought it was foreshadowing that Micucci's character was into taxidermy so at the end when she's "beautiful" she becomes a literal shell of who she used to be, and it turns out she's an empty skin filled with Styrofoam and wire to keep her shape, I felt that would've been a poetic, creepy way to end it, but that wasn't the case.
He did, David Prior, The Empty Man. The movie got absolutely buried but it's starting to get a cult following. He deserves to be in the position Mike Flanagan is now, guy has got the gift.
It may be too slow a build-up for zoom-zooms but Prior is a definite talent as a director on the up-and-up in horror, glad to see del Taco saw his potential for this anthology series.
That's episode 7.
Episode 3 guy made The Empty Man (2020), which I haven't seen, but assume is terrible given that it's a horror movie from 2020 called 'The Empty Man'. I think my reasoning is unironically pretty sound here.
That's episode 7.
Episode 3 guy made The Empty Man (2020), which I haven't seen, but assume is terrible given that it's a horror movie from 2020 called 'The Empty Man'. I think my reasoning is unironically pretty sound here.
I thought this was well but watched it a month ago and it's based. Not all of it works, but it's a surprisingly epic scale film that is constantly surprising. It feels like 4 different movies in one, and at least half of them are great and the portions that are kind of stupid almost get a pass because maybe it's the point. I highly recommend it.
That's episode 7.
Episode 3 guy made The Empty Man (2020), which I haven't seen, but assume is terrible given that it's a horror movie from 2020 called 'The Empty Man'. I think my reasoning is unironically pretty sound here.
Oh yeah ep 7 has the same aesthetics, ambience and music.
I just watched episode 2, and Masson was just doing what he could to survive. I felt like maybe his prayers should've been answered, but fully expected the 'comeuppance' he got. It seemed like he was just a joke character to be tormented and killed.
Yeah it didn't feel earned, he only robbed Graves, he wasn't a despicable enough person to get that ending, needed to murder someone for the "pay-off" to feel earned.
I can't believe the autopsy was directed by the guy who directed that fucking garbage empty man movie. Then again the intro to that movie was pretty good so I guess with a good story he can do a lot better
Friendly reminder the parasitical, invasive alien creature from episode 3 bragging about inhabiting men for millenia and causing great nations to fall hidden from within their host bodies, is synonymous with israeli subversion and control of the world.
>is synonymous with israeli subversion and control of the world
yea that's the first thing i thought of. pointless though. it will go over everyone's heads like nothing happened.
>is synonymous with israeli subversion and control of the world
yea that's the first thing i thought of. pointless though. it will go over everyone's heads like nothing happened.
i just checked the writer
"was Press Secretary to Queen Elizabeth II"
hmmm interesting
>Episode 1
She didn't 'trap' him. She hangs the padlock but doesn't close it.
It was an alright episode. It was just a nice, simple classical horror tale. Sometimes you don't need much more than that.
I haven't watched it yet, I've been hearing a lot of mixed thoughts on it (and I've read the Lovecraft story so I don't care about spoilers) what makes you feel that way?
If you've read the story the problems will be obvious. The tone and horror and Crispin as Pickman are 10/10, the shit they had to make up to expand the run time and give it a tv structure are 0/10.
2 is stupid. And it's almost just like the episode 1. Guy owes a massive debt soon or will be killed. Both delve into retrieving prized property. Both die.
>but Dreams in the Witchhouse is a fucking pile.
Even though it was a shit Lovecraft adaptation, I was at least having fun with its energy and verve until the ending completely shit the bed in a way that puts a bad taste in your mouth.
Murray Abraham work is always something to behold, even under the worst of circumstances. One of the last great American character actors currently working. And boy, how he shines in this episode. I don't have a lot of interest in del Toro precious aproach to the genre but this one is the best TV horror hour I've spent in a long, long time. Prior really knock this out of the park.
>creepy wooden witch AND HER LE WACKY SIDE KICK RAT GUY HE'S JUST A SILLY GUY IN A RAT BODY BUT THE HEAD IS HUMAN SO HE CAN LOOK EXTRA STUPID
what were they thinking
The ending was stupid as fuck and besides Rupert Grint the cast was weak, but I still think it was probably better than the final episode which was just a derivative and bland "broken marriage because of a lost child disguised as a ghost story" metaphor.
it's also the wokest of trash (that line about hitler almost made cringe out of my skin) and to add insult to injury it has almost nothing in common with the lovecraft story it supposedly is adapting.
Proof that Twilight wasn't just a fluke and that Catherine Hardwicke really is a shit director. The rest of the episodes don't fall into the tired "diversity for diversity sake" shit except for that one episode, it's clear the other directors didn't feel pressured to cast for diversity and she's just a shitty director.
So, one could argue that there is a strong basis in Orthodox Christianity in parts of Africa, and the character is dressed like that. However, the character is in Massachusetts in the early 1900's and does not have any sort of foreign accent, so no, it doesn't hold up. Her and the painter were supposed to be sisters I believe, so it was just a conscious woke choice to make them black for the sake of it. Same with the main guy's friend, although he was fine all things considered.
Tbqh I think Del Toro would make a better producer than a director. He has genuine love and knowledge of movies and the sway to get cool shit off the ground but if he has too much uninhibited control over the reins he tends to turn into a hacky faglord.
I was really hoping the murmuring was going to be good. The director did the babadook and the nightingale. Both movies are absolutely incredible. Really disappointed with how incredibly basic the murmuring ended up being.
he did more than lend his name. he picked out the directors, stories and many artists involved (the guy who did the paintings for pickman's model was a concept artist on pacific rim etc.) to adapt, provided two of the stories that they filmed (lot 36 and the murmuring) and was heavily involved in the creature design.
First episode is white man bad and immigrants good.
The first episode is literally the worst and heavy-handed with that bullshit, episode 3 has a genuinely heroic white lead, and the rest all have white male protagonists that aren't blatantly shitty characters the same way as the first episode.
I watched the first two and thought they both sucked. I wouldn't say they were shit but if I could have my time back I'd certainly do that. Are any of the other episodes worth watching?
I started at episode 3 because of the shitty reviews here on episode 1 and 2, and that was really good. episode 4 is absolute shit. do not watch under any circumstance.
Honestly episode 2 'Graveyard Rats' is waaaay more entertaining than episode 1 with none of the heavy handed politics of that episode, and probably should have been the series opener, really feels like a higher budgeted Tales From the Crypt episode, has that Zemeckis / Donner / Darabont gloss to the whole production that made it comfy to watch.
Yes. I enjoyed every episode overall. But holy fuck, The Viewing is probably my favorite. Absolutely peak aesthetics. The lighting, the use of colors, the music, the framing. So fucking gorgeous and mesmerizing. Cool monster, and the gore reminded me of Raiders of the Lost Ark too.
I liked them. But only Eric Andre really kept pace with Peter Weller and Sophia Boutella. The other actors were perhaps a little out of their depth, but not enough to ruin it. The episode is just plain kino though, I really can't find any legitimate fault with it. It was marvelous to behold, every single shot was expertly done and the visuals are so beyond the rest of the series it's insane. I can't get it out of my mind.
I'm surprised how dark and gory most of the episodes were. Some really nasty and fucked up stuff in it. But I liked it. I did feel like Pickman's Model, Lot 36, and The Viewing all ended just when they were getting started though. I would have liked those ones to have had less abrupt endings.
Watching 'Dreams in the Witch House' now, it's very silly, even campy in places but it has a real energy and verve to, and the design of the witch herself, Keziah Mason, is a very cool design.
I think The Autopsy is probably the best crafted episode, but Panos Cosmatos' episode The Viewing is such a perfect synthesis of elements I love that it's probably my sentimental favorite. Dude is absolutely my favorite current filmmaker along with Robert Eggers.
Great show ending sadly ending on the wet fart that is episode 8. The whole "family drama disguised as a horror story" has been done before and so much better. Worst episode.
Just saw episode 5, didn't really enjoy it. All of the aesthetics are great in the series but the episodes feel like they go on for way too long. Cut them down in half because otherwise they are too boring.
I'd almost like to see a few episodes re-edited to shorten them and tighten the editing up so a few could fit into an anthology style film format like Creepshow.
I think 1 hour is kind of an awkward spot because its not quite a full feature film but its also way longer than most anthology shows. Stuff like Pickman's model felt it was stretching out Lovecraft's short story with filler to make it fit the 1 hour format.
I've watched all of them now, the first episode is one of the worst ones, the writing is heavy-handed and obvious, almost all the other ones are better, the best being episode 3 and 7.
A lot of these shorts are either heavily inspired by or directly taken from Lovecraft, and if you've ever read any of his short stories, that's basically how they all go. 20 pages of setting and character backstory and then bam, everything happens on the last page or two.
The acting on episode 8 is on par with F. Murray Abraham on the autopsy. Top tier, and it's great that they put that one after the previous one with all the shitty comedians. Great, soulful ending
Episode one was okay. The main actor seemed like he was just there to collect a paycheck, the story itself wasn't anything amazing but it was interesting with the occult stuff and the design of the demon was good. Thought the ending sequence was boring and predictable. A chase, really?
Episode two was bad. As another Anon said, the protagonist doesn't really deserve his fate in this episode. He's ratty, sure, but he's just trying to make it. He's not hurting anyone. Effects suck, story sucked.
Even Panos' contribution with his signature late night 80s TV commercial style and half-cartoon characters was way boring for half its running time.
The Lovecraft adaptations were a disgrace and clearly written by drooling imbeciles who thought they could outdo a horror genius. Kinda reminds me of the two Salem's Lot adaptations. The monster in Pickman's Model would've been scarier if they had chosen a random creature out of Where The Wild Things Are, but it was designed by Del Taco himself, and he couldn't tell scary from his own ass.
The Murmuring, written by Del Taco, is possibly the worst ghost story I've ever seen. The man is clearly a horror antitalent. All his siganture quirks are seen throughout the series: soap opera shit instead of character development, stylized environments with blue and green lighting, old timey settings, monster designs that miss the mark, exposition that goes nowhere. This series could also've been called The Truck Of Tacos, given his introduction.
>episode 1
this guy won't give me my stuff back, better hang around the lot for 2 days and sneak around him just so that later i can look at him by a door that happens to be closed. i'm such a girl boss, that's such a good revenge tactic.
also: im skeptic about supernatural stuff even though i see a literal demon before me, let me just walk over this ominous circle despite the warnings not to. also im totally chill about this, nothing creepy or weird that i should be scared about. i'm gonna totally act just a tiny bit distressed.
anyway, im not gonna pretend im not having a lot of fun watching this series despite some dumb plot holes that i willingly ignore. it's good overall.
>so that later i can look at him by a door that happens to be closed
She was camping for him to take out the trash, hoping that she can maybe scavenge through it for her stuff.
The ending was kino. It's about how the "not my problem" mentality can have devastating consequences for others that we ourselves don't realize. The protagonist is being shown being very self-centered throughout the entire episode, only concerned with his own situation. The mexican lady's sentimental belongings was "not his problem" even though it was a very small favor. Then at the end the door being locked is "not her problem", not realizing that not doing that small favor cost the man his life. Both are ignorant to eachothers plights.
Its poetic punishment in classic horror fashion. It's a message about how small good deeds can go a long way for other people, even though they seem insignificant from our own point of view.
>It's about how the "not my problem" mentality can have devastating consequences for others that we ourselves don't realize.
No fucking shit you retard. Do you think you're a genius for realising that?
Well you know there is a magnitude of difference between getting back some family photos and being ripped apart by a demon >ah but she didn't know about the demon
the guy's screaming in terror, that's a pretty clear cut signal that the stakes are fairly high here
>NOOOO DONT EAT ME >IM SORRY FOR BEING SUCH A CHUD I PROMISE I WONT BE A CHUD ANYMORE >I FOUGHT IN VIETNAM YOU CANT JUST EAT ME FOR BEING AN ANGRY LITTLE CHUD AAAAAAAAAAA
In the first one, why was the old guy butchering cats? And why was he visiting the storage unit all the time? I figured he'd be feeding the cats to the demon but it didn't seem like that was the case in the end.
Because the deal always ends with the demon killing the summoner and the 4th book spontaneously combusting.
If your next question is why summon then I'd like to preempt it by saying because shit writing.
One would assume the demon granted him something in return but dont ask guillermo about it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
what could it have been?
it wasnt wealth, he was living very modestly.
it wasnt health or youth either.
so wtf was it?
or maybe he just hated his sis and wanted to kill her creatively.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Maybe it was to get out of Germany at the end of the war and not have to face penalty for being a Nazi
But if that was the case they definitely should have articulated it
1 year ago
Anonymous
but the sacrifice was done long after he fled germany.
well, i guess deltaco has a real hardon for nazis.
i wonder if we see him doing stuff like that with communist functionaries.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was a year after the war ended. Maybe it was like a post-dated cheque, "Get us out of here and set us up nicely in the US and after a year I'll give you my sister"
1 year ago
Anonymous
>all this lorem ipsum garbage text
lazy
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Adobe Minion font in anything before 2000
They didn't pay the prop guys working on this much
1 year ago
Anonymous
Maybe he and his sister were just joking around with the books and it happened accidentally and he was trying to find a cure
1 year ago
Anonymous
hmm..he accidentally tied her her hands and feet and made a summoners circle with red sand around her?
1 year ago
Anonymous
No the demon initially wasnt that fucked up and they could communicate with it and only when it became clear that he would kill him and never leave the sister he worked something out.
Dont make me do the writers work please.
1 year ago
Anonymous
this actually sounds very plausible, but this should have been better communicated by the show.
Watched the Graveyard Rats ep.
It was pretty well done, the MC was an idiot, but the ending was spot on. Seems like the series pulls from a lot of other stories, which is kind of nice.
The practical effects are really good.
The autopsy>The Murmuring>Lot 26=Graveyard Rats>>The Outside
Murmering I got a little bit spooked, it had some decent tension and the slow pace of it was good but near the end it lost its wonder and obviously they just needed to finish it.
Lot 36 The main character was interesting to see and bad rats had more of a fun type of horror vibes to it. The Outside has some fargo vibes to it.
Rest I thought weren't that great, The VIewing was absolute horseshit, it's a bunch of talking leading into mindless death and gore just because.
I liked the murmuring, autopsy and the viewing but graveyard rats was only meh and the other episodes were pretty damn terrible.
Lot 36 in particular is complete garbage from a writing and theming pov and really the only worthwhile thing about it is blake nelsons performance.
It's so bad it's unintentionally funny like when he just decides to not believe in demons even though there is demon in front of him.
Or when the consuela kills him for being """evil""".
The lovecraft ones are arguably the worst ones, basically a how-not-to-do-lovecraft-adaptations guide.
Why the fuck does Nick get hated on when it's Eddie's fucking fault for being a shiftless nagger and not updating the mexican lady's details when she told him to
Or fuck what about the mexican lady for not paying her fucking bills
no the white man deserves to die for not cleaning up the messes of the other races
If you start thinking about this episode for a moment it gets real redpilling real fast
bro he could've just let her have her photos. there is no way you can spin this around as the guy not being a piece of shit. just say you're racist you're on Cinemaphile you don't have to come up with retarded justifications.
>the onuis of responsibility is on the white man to perform an act of altruism because a nagger and a wetback can't keep their ships running tight
Is this not the case? Tell me how it isn't.
them being naggers and making mistakes doesn't change that he could've just let her take her photos. >but akshually he technically didn't do anything wrong.
you're as dumb as the naggers you hate so much.
The book burned when Roland died.
Roland is very well informed about the particulars of the case.
Roland is German.
The story takes place in 2003, even if the old guy was in his 80s he still would have only been in his twenties during the war, a little young to be cutting deals with demons.
What I think happened is this: >Roland is the father of Dottie and Old Guy >He's the Nazi, he gets the family out of Germany >he cuts a deal with the demon for wealth and immortality in exchange for his daughter >Young Old Guy finds out, can't stop the ritual taking place but manages to somehow take her away and hide her in the storage unit >He spends years trying to figure out how to save her, eventually gives up and settles for just feeding the demon in a misguided attempt to keep his sister alive in some form >Roland spends the intervening time living his best life and always staying involved in supernatural jinkies stuff in the hopes of finding where his son his his daughter/demon
Protection ritual to ward him from the demon while he fed it. Roland tells Nick not to interact with the demon in any way so it likely has some kind of mesmerising effect it can use to manipulate you.
Episode 1 felt like it needed to be a full length film, the premise, mystery and direction was good but it felt rushed and the demon reveal is too quick and then it just ends in a chase. I think this might be a scrapped film script from Del Toro because it kind of feels like it.
Episode 5 felt like it needed to be shorter, the stuff they added to the Lovecraft short story just made it worse and less focused.
I was fine with the stuff they added to the Pickman story. At least the story itself is still in there. Witch House, on the other hand, has almost nothing in common with the story and would have been better off being called something else.
no i havent, why?
is it really that bad?
i thought he could be someone who understood lovecraft, but except on a very superficial level that doesnt seem to be the case.
First episode immediately built this white strawman for del Toro to beat up, this type of sanctimonious writing pissed me off so bad I turned it off halfway through. I used to love del Toro's movies, but ever since he decided he hated me for my race and heterosexuality, I've found it really hard to like him. The guy's rich and light skinned, fucking lay off the guilt trip.
>first fucking five minutes, guy listening to a caricature of fox news saying "fuck yeah" at some of the most blatantly strawmanned talking points >"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?" >oh please sir, i'm just little mexican gramma please i made mistake give me my key and storage locker back >no, i bought it, it's not my problem
I stopped watching right there, but I'm sure there was plenty more. I'm sitting in my own fucking house just trying to forget how awful the world is, thinking I'm gonna have a fun scary halloween show to watch. I am not going to watch your garbage race-baiting propaganda. I am not a slave owner, I am not running the camps at the border, my ancestors were not slave owners, and I've always been and will always be kind and courteous to people regardless of their race. Fuck off with the guilt trip, I'm tired of being told how evil I am when five seconds of reading about history shows no race's hands are clean and that white people are a worldwide minority that everyone has suddenly decided needs shamed and eradicated while simultaneously and ironically spewing anti-racist rhetoric in every last square inch of new and entertainment media.
It's just so blatant, and people like you are either too dumb or playing dumb like you can't see.
>"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?"
This was the worst one for me, it just telegraphed Guillermo's whole outlook. Because Eddie doesn't reply, just gives him this diminishing look. Because the people in the audience are supposed to think "The very concept of white rage is inherently ridiculous compared to the valid and brave concept of Black rage, even though I can't say exactly why it's ridiculous everyone knows it's ridiculous, so ridiculous that this is a negatively character defining point for the character who said it". The school of racial thought where everyone accepts the same Truths because everyone else accepts them, and if you don't you're not in the cool kids club.
>>"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?"
Way to fail at understanding body language, retard. The black guy realizes that the main character is right in saying that.
>first fucking five minutes, guy listening to a caricature of fox news saying "fuck yeah" at some of the most blatantly strawmanned talking points >"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?" >oh please sir, i'm just little mexican gramma please i made mistake give me my key and storage locker back >no, i bought it, it's not my problem
I stopped watching right there, but I'm sure there was plenty more. I'm sitting in my own fucking house just trying to forget how awful the world is, thinking I'm gonna have a fun scary halloween show to watch. I am not going to watch your garbage race-baiting propaganda. I am not a slave owner, I am not running the camps at the border, my ancestors were not slave owners, and I've always been and will always be kind and courteous to people regardless of their race. Fuck off with the guilt trip, I'm tired of being told how evil I am when five seconds of reading about history shows no race's hands are clean and that white people are a worldwide minority that everyone has suddenly decided needs shamed and eradicated while simultaneously and ironically spewing anti-racist rhetoric in every last square inch of new and entertainment media.
It's just so blatant, and people like you are either too dumb or playing dumb like you can't see.
You fags are pathetic >complaining about the liberal side pouring propaganda down your throat while saying the same side can't tolerate anything that doesn't fit their agenda
you're not any different, you won't see anything involving a white racist because you immediately feel like someone's preaching to you, politics have fucked both the entertainment side and the audience one, learn how to be happy again for fucks sake
Cool, I thought I was the only one who discovered and enjoyed (for now) this series. I watched the first 3 episodes and really liked it.
The first episode (Lot 36) builds up an appetite for the rest of the show, the actors are good and creepy even if I found a few flaws here and there.
Graveyard Rats (episode 2) is a pure masterpiece, the context, the actors (Death from Supernatural and Rodney from Stargate Atlantis are perfect, as usual).
The Autopsy (episode 3) was a bit slow at the beginning but when we finally get to the heart of the matter (the autopsy), it was great.
Once again, the actors are of very good quality, but Guillermo del Toro doing his Hitchcock at the beginning of each episode is a bit annoying but since he did a good job, I forgive him.
It’s pretty ducking forgettable. It’s horror in the same way pans lab is technically horror and so is bellboy because they deal with monsters. But most of these episodes are not remotely scary and are actually pretty tame and boring as most lacked an original idea or if they had one it was boring.
So what is the take-away on The Viewing exactly? People who succumb to their base desires and senses meet their demise?
The Asian chick and Andre's characters seem to be the only two who show resistance of just embracing pleasure and "going with the flow". They're the two characters who's drinks are non-alcoholic, and Andre's characters is a recovering drug addict. When the alien puts them in a trance they're the only ones who manage to snap out of it while the others are too spellbound.
They both do take the weed and cocaine though, so not really. I guess it just means they had greater free will in which to break the creature's spell since they did hesitate against the peer pressure? I think the take away is that the monster is going to kill everyone on Earth though, just albeit very slowly.
Ends too abruptly and darkly for most people's taste I think. Him finding his son's head in the oven is pretty fucked up. But I thought it was good myself. Stayed much more true to Lovecraft's work than the witch one.
Seems to be pretty hated here but five episodes in I think it's better than most of them. At least it's not completely predictable from the first five minutes.
I don't really know what to think of it, personally. It's bizarre and kind of uncomfortable. It feels like the whole episode is shot with a fish eye lens from odd angles aping the Jim Carrey Grinch movie. Kind of sickening to look at actually. It is certainly different and unique though. I didn't hate it, there are two other much weaker episodes so I would rank it 6th.
If by 'The Viewing' you meant 'The Autopsy' then you're right.
The Viewing is overrated. It's really well made, stylish and aesthetic but the story of the characters just isn't interesting enough. They had a whole hour to develop shit and we get like a tiny amount of characterization when that's the entire explored part of the plot. It should have been 40 minutes shorter.
How scary is this? I'm a fan of Guillermo Del Toro but I'm also a huge pussy.
Things that scared me and made me quit watching/playing:
- The PT demo. Never finished it. Played 5 minutes and quit.
- Silent Hill games too scary.
- Resident Evil games too scary.
- Haven't watched any horror movie in like 10 years
- Haunting of Hill House on Netflix, turned it off after 12 minutes or so.
- Have to walk home when it's getting dark? You best believe I'm running.
Can I watch Cabinet of Curiosities or will I suffer a heart attack?
Not particularly scary, but it does have intense and suspenseful moments and quite a bit of gore. The gross out factor is definitely what would be too much for some people. If you thought Haunting of Hill House was too scary (great show but I'm not sure what about it would scare someone), this might be I guess? I say give it a shot, many of the stories are fairly slow burn with great acting and it's a treat for the creature designs alone.
I’ve only seen the first episode. It’s pretty heavy on the social politics of white man bad, but the story itself is cheesy and camp enough to be entertaining. I mean, it’s about accultist nazis. It almost felt like a good episode of Buffy.
I’ll probably keep watching. The show is enjoyable enough, but I wouldn’t really call it good just yet
Just got one episode left.
Graveyard Rats, The Autopsy, and The Viewing were VERY good halloween movie, liked Pickman's Model and Lot 36 too, but not as much.
The rest I could take or leave.
I couldn't believe it at the end we didn't get a shot of her walking into the bank all stacy-like and seeing her co-workers horrified and it cuts back to show most of her skin sloughing off and peeling.
Maybe it's because the babadook also sucked and everbody just fellates it because they think they're supposed to like it?
Thanks though, I couldn't remember why the woman in the murmuring seemed familiar.
>watching it waiting for something interesting to happen >check vid time and see 8 minutes left
really this is what you chose to end it on atleast put pickmans model or the kino alien ep as the last one
I got through it, but it was carried almost entirely by shots that were reminiscent of The Birds and Andrew Lincoln's performance. The main character was not likable and the story was very bland and derivative. It should have leaned all the way in to being an adaptation of The Birds instead of a generic ghost story metaphor for a miscarriage.
Mine is: >The Viewing >The Autopsy >Graveyard Rats >Pickman's Model >Lot 36 >The Outside >Dreams in the Witch House >The Murmuring
Both are objectively correct rankings. Nice taste Anons.
Mine is:
The Autopsy
The Viewing tied closely with The Autopsy.
Graveyard Rats.
Pickman's Model.
The Outside.
The Murmuring.
Lot 36.
Dreams in the With House.
People are rating The Outside lower than I thought, I really liked the almost Coen style midwest characters and TV hallucinations. A bit underwhelming at the very end but overall good
I will say this. I ranked The Outside low but I still think it's worth watching for Micucci and Dan Steven's performances and the production design is good, the only truly dogshit episode of the whole series is Dreams in the Witch House, imo.
>autopsy >the viewing (based cosmatos) >pickman's model >graveyard rats >lot 36 (best monster design of the bunch) >the outside >the murmuring >dreams in the witch house
Great visuals but almost every episode has something sabotaging my enjoyment. Mostly weak writing I guess.
It's great that something like this can get made, but I'm angry over so much wasted potential.
By the very nature of the anthology format it's going to be a mixed bag, and some stories are going to be pressed for time to fit into the one-episode format, but I do think this has been way more successful and rewarding than Masters of Horror was or the recent Creepshow revival, and The Autopsy was genuinely tightly written and incredibly satisfying on a narrative level, already tempted to say it's a new, modern horror/sci-fi classic.
>8. outside >7. dreams in the witch house >6. graveyard rats >5. pickman's model >4. the autopsy >3 lot 36 >2. the viewing >1. the murmuring
do you agree?
I think it's nice that everyone has different opinions about which ones were good. There was something to like in all of them, even if they didn't all quite work.
It worked for me, set him apart from the normies, and Lovecraft always has a character that's a conduit for The Old Ones that is supposed to be "off" compared to the rest of the characters in each individual story.
My guess would be Irish immigrant to Boston. His character is already much older in the story than Thurber, so it makes sense that his original Irish accent has morphed and changed over time to somewhat sound like a native Boston one.
The only episode that is genuinely donkey shit was Dreams in the Witch House, the rest are at least worth watching, but that one was irredeemable trash.
Just watched The Outside, loved the mood of it. The scene where she puts her hands to the TV was perfect. Definitely my favourite besides the last 1/3 of The Autopsy. The effects in that were masterfully done, nothing has made me feel as squeamish as that in a long time.
>Bunch of plebs not appreciating the absolute kino mixture of Fargo with even more absurd comedy, barely a step removed from bimbofication erotica.
A man of culture, the similarities are godly.
Watching it now.
The Outside is the fucking worst by far, you can tell it was written by a lez.
literally just finished watching that one. can't decide if the actress is cute or not in it
She is, they just made her ugly for the sake of the story.
She's very cute. I'm not a big fan of her stacy look at the end, but she's normally very cute.
I thought it had a good setup (And Dan Stevens as the man in the TV was a fun surprise), but I felt it just kind of ended with zero conclusion. I thought it was foreshadowing that Micucci's character was into taxidermy so at the end when she's "beautiful" she becomes a literal shell of who she used to be, and it turns out she's an empty skin filled with Styrofoam and wire to keep her shape, I felt that would've been a poetic, creepy way to end it, but that wasn't the case.
That would have been a much better ending.
The Autopsy is my favorite so far, I doubt any of the others will top it.
I liked the vibe of that one, but it should've ended with her walking into work and people screaming showing that she peeled all her skin off. Maybe they thought that was too cliche but it would've been more fun than gossip queen
This would have made a lot more sense and fit the themes so much more. The parts where she sees herself as hotter could have been shown to be all in her mind with everyone around shocked, terrified, and disgusted. The ending clearly shows she has snapped anyway, so it would have been very effective. As it is, the weird lotion being a living creature also made no sense, and it would have been more effective horror if it really was a simple as the stuff just giving her a horrible allergic reaction and she's too stupid to stop.
Even though it isn't perfect, I did think 'The Outside' was more honest about how women put more peer pressure on each other about their looks and are bitches to each other in-general than men are, the husband genuinely loves Micucci's character for who she is, which felt refreshingly honest compared to the usual narrative from mainstream media. The only reason a gorgeous, full-figured woman like Christina Hendricks isn't more successful in Hollywood is because of petty bitches that don't want to watch women that mog them on-screen.
Jesus fucking christ I couldnt even finish watching The Outside
The Outside was such a massive shlog to go through that I really wanted to just skip it. Absolute dogshit through and through and with the way the camera zoomed on everyone's faces so much it felt like the Director just found out that it could do that and decided to film most of the movie like that.
It was too "woman" to be interesting and felt like a shitty vanity project. When the actress starting making retarded faces at the end is when I went straight into the next episode
Watched the first four episodes, watching the fifth tonight.
Episode 1 was way too heavy-handed with its main character being an asshole (shouldn't be a surprise since del Taco wrote it himself), but I thought the main demon design by Guy Davis was cool, ultimately the Mexican lady seemed like a villain for trapping the main guy in the storage facility, even though I'm sure it wasn't del Taco's intent.
I enoyed episode 2 'Graveyard Rats' overall, but for trying to ape EC Comics/Tales From The Crypt, I felt like the ultimate fate of the main character didn't fit the crime. In EC Horror comics, usually the main character murders a secondary character for money or revenge, and is ultimately done in by the person they killed as a ghoul beyond the grave, I felt like they could've fixed this by making the shipping merchant be murdered by Masson so he can collect the treasure from his grave later, and have the shipping merchant's zombie be the ghoul groaning "MINE!" in the climax instead of some zombie evil priest. Otherwise enjoyed the EC Horror vibes and practical creature/monster effects.
Episode Three, The Autopsy, is one of the best cosmic/body horror tales Ive seen in a long time, and its all expertly written, directed, edited, and acted. it was great seeing F. Murray Abraham in a well written role and given a lot of great material to work with again after what seems like a decade or two of him being in shlock. David Prior needs to be given a large budget and creative freedom on his next project, this easily could've been expanded to feature film length, the finale and payoff are so satisfying I genuinely had chills at the end as the credits rolled. Expertly crafted and tightly constructed science fiction body horror.
I agree with most of what you wrote. The ultimate fate of the main character in EP2 didn't deserve it, but it was still a grim/interesting ending. What did you think of EP4?
My thoughts on 'The Outside' are in this post
Whoever directed/wrote episode 3 needs to make a legitimate horror movie.
Excellent pacing, cinematography, and acting all around .
He did, David Prior, The Empty Man. The movie got absolutely buried but it's starting to get a cult following. He deserves to be in the position Mike Flanagan is now, guy has got the gift.
Never heard of it but now I'm intrigued
not the anon but the Empty Man is worth the watch. Creepy movie
It may be too slow a build-up for zoom-zooms but Prior is a definite talent as a director on the up-and-up in horror, glad to see del Taco saw his potential for this anthology series.
Each episode is directed by a famous movie director that’s the whole idea for this show
he made beyond the black rainbow and mandy
give them a try
Episode 3 'The Autopsy' wasn't Panos Cosmatos, it was David Prior. Panos directed 'The Viewing'.
true i got confused
That's episode 7.
Episode 3 guy made The Empty Man (2020), which I haven't seen, but assume is terrible given that it's a horror movie from 2020 called 'The Empty Man'. I think my reasoning is unironically pretty sound here.
I thought this was well but watched it a month ago and it's based. Not all of it works, but it's a surprisingly epic scale film that is constantly surprising. It feels like 4 different movies in one, and at least half of them are great and the portions that are kind of stupid almost get a pass because maybe it's the point. I highly recommend it.
>I think my reasoning is unironically pretty sound here.
it isn't. Empty man is pure schizokino.
>beyond the black rainbow
Oh yeah ep 7 has the same aesthetics, ambience and music.
I just watched episode 2, and Masson was just doing what he could to survive. I felt like maybe his prayers should've been answered, but fully expected the 'comeuppance' he got. It seemed like he was just a joke character to be tormented and killed.
Yeah it didn't feel earned, he only robbed Graves, he wasn't a despicable enough person to get that ending, needed to murder someone for the "pay-off" to feel earned.
The guy who played the alien in 3 was really good too
Yeah performances across the board in that episode were really good.
I can't believe the autopsy was directed by the guy who directed that fucking garbage empty man movie. Then again the intro to that movie was pretty good so I guess with a good story he can do a lot better
Friendly reminder the parasitical, invasive alien creature from episode 3 bragging about inhabiting men for millenia and causing great nations to fall hidden from within their host bodies, is synonymous with israeli subversion and control of the world.
>fucking garbage empty man movie
pleb filtered
>is synonymous with israeli subversion and control of the world
yea that's the first thing i thought of. pointless though. it will go over everyone's heads like nothing happened.
That was the first thing you thought of because you're mentally ill anon.
israelites will always start calling you mentally ill once you point out their bullshit. literally whats happening to kanye right now
you really thought that's gonna work?
>anyone who sees through our game is a crazy conspiracy theorist!!!
try harder, tranny.
Can't go one fucking thread without you retards shitting it up. Kill yourself.
Can't go one fucking thread without you trannies shitting it up. Kill yourself.
trannies, trannies, trannies, trannies, trannies.
meds, now.
Coal
the meds are what turned him into a tranny
yeah there's very obvious israelite connection if you wanna make that
i just checked the writer
"was Press Secretary to Queen Elizabeth II"
hmmm interesting
>everything you ever had you’ve stolen
I have to admit, that was my first thought, too.
>I felt like the ultimate fate of the main character didn't fit the crime.
i disagree, grave robbing is one of the lowest things you can do
I don't know how people don't get this, he gives a whole speech about it at the start of the episode
>Episode 1
She didn't 'trap' him. She hangs the padlock but doesn't close it.
It was an alright episode. It was just a nice, simple classical horror tale. Sometimes you don't need much more than that.
>Goyslop: The post
>Goymposter: The subversion
I liked The Autopsy, Pickman's Model was okay but embellished too much on the original story to little effect. The main guy's aging was also comical.
I liked the Rat episode too
How was Pickman's Model simultaneously both the best and worst one?
I haven't watched it yet, I've been hearing a lot of mixed thoughts on it (and I've read the Lovecraft story so I don't care about spoilers) what makes you feel that way?
If you've read the story the problems will be obvious. The tone and horror and Crispin as Pickman are 10/10, the shit they had to make up to expand the run time and give it a tv structure are 0/10.
7 was dope.
8 was formulaic and boring.
The style in this show is great, really well done. Feels similar to Pans Labyrinth
Crimson Peak too. Someone of the lighting is identical.
The first episode is directed by Guillermo's longtime DoP Guillermo Navarro.
would be cool if they did a Pale Man short story. He could have a lot more lore
aesthetically episode 2 is the best imo
Are you fucking kidding me, saying that episode 7 wasn't the most aesthetic?
3>>7>>>>>>2>4>5>8>>>
>>>>1>>>6
2 is stupid. And it's almost just like the episode 1. Guy owes a massive debt soon or will be killed. Both delve into retrieving prized property. Both die.
I thought one of the old stacies in The Outside was Bobbi Starr.
Who was the taller, thicker one of those girls? Her milkers were fucking outstanding.
The Autopsy is 10/10. The rest are mostly alright, except the one with Rupert Grint which is fucking awful
Absolutely this. Most are watchable but flawed, Autopsy is excellent, as is Outside, but Dreams in the Witchhouse is a fucking pile.
>but Dreams in the Witchhouse is a fucking pile.
Even though it was a shit Lovecraft adaptation, I was at least having fun with its energy and verve until the ending completely shit the bed in a way that puts a bad taste in your mouth.
I hated the bird one
Don't mind me. Just over here being incredibly based.
Fuck yes, felt great having a based horror protagonist played by a genuinely talented actor, it feels like it's been too long.
Outrageously, insanely based.
I have yet to see somebody say something negative about this badass old man.
Murray Abraham work is always something to behold, even under the worst of circumstances. One of the last great American character actors currently working. And boy, how he shines in this episode. I don't have a lot of interest in del Toro precious aproach to the genre but this one is the best TV horror hour I've spent in a long, long time. Prior really knock this out of the park.
>creepy wooden witch AND HER LE WACKY SIDE KICK RAT GUY HE'S JUST A SILLY GUY IN A RAT BODY BUT THE HEAD IS HUMAN SO HE CAN LOOK EXTRA STUPID
what were they thinking
The ending was stupid as fuck and besides Rupert Grint the cast was weak, but I still think it was probably better than the final episode which was just a derivative and bland "broken marriage because of a lost child disguised as a ghost story" metaphor.
it's also the wokest of trash (that line about hitler almost made cringe out of my skin) and to add insult to injury it has almost nothing in common with the lovecraft story it supposedly is adapting.
Creepy wooden witch looks like a skin you can buy in Dead by Daylight
>here's your Orthodox Priest bro!
I knew this was a fucking shill thread, no way a del taco production in 2022 wasn't pozzed shit.
I was extremely confused by this.
Is there a reasonable explanation for this casting choice?
Proof that Twilight wasn't just a fluke and that Catherine Hardwicke really is a shit director. The rest of the episodes don't fall into the tired "diversity for diversity sake" shit except for that one episode, it's clear the other directors didn't feel pressured to cast for diversity and she's just a shitty director.
So, one could argue that there is a strong basis in Orthodox Christianity in parts of Africa, and the character is dressed like that. However, the character is in Massachusetts in the early 1900's and does not have any sort of foreign accent, so no, it doesn't hold up. Her and the painter were supposed to be sisters I believe, so it was just a conscious woke choice to make them black for the sake of it. Same with the main guy's friend, although he was fine all things considered.
Is that supposed to be Lovecraft's dreams in the witch house? It looks terrible!
TBF I don't know how you can make a rat with a tiny human face not look ridiculous.
problem is to not over animate it
Does this show have cute girls in it?
Only if you think cute girls are cute.
I've seen and ejaculated to her nipples
They make a special guest appearance in episode 4, you get a couple nice ass shots of her as well.
Pretty kino quite refreshing to have horror/mystery that isn’t dogshit
Tbqh I think Del Toro would make a better producer than a director. He has genuine love and knowledge of movies and the sway to get cool shit off the ground but if he has too much uninhibited control over the reins he tends to turn into a hacky faglord.
ep 8 The Murmuring was extremely bad. The lady was annoying as fuck I wanted to end it asap. even ep 7 was bad
I was really hoping the murmuring was going to be good. The director did the babadook and the nightingale. Both movies are absolutely incredible. Really disappointed with how incredibly basic the murmuring ended up being.
>even ep 7 was bad
No it wasn't. It was kino, but you need to already be a fan of Panos to realize it.
>This shit sucks
>This shit is based
Which is which fags? I'm a /hor/ and deltoro fan.
it's both depending on which ep and they're directed by different people
so el fatoro just lent his name meh
he did more than lend his name. he picked out the directors, stories and many artists involved (the guy who did the paintings for pickman's model was a concept artist on pacific rim etc.) to adapt, provided two of the stories that they filmed (lot 36 and the murmuring) and was heavily involved in the creature design.
>I'm a /hor/ and deltoro fan.
>but I need someone else to tell me if I should watch /hor/ and deltoro thing
some fan
so which eps are shit and worth skipping?
So far watch episode 2, 3 (best so far) and 5. Skip 1 and 4.
The Viewing was shit, literally 90% of it is just badly written characters doing drugs in a circle. I say this as someone who enjoyed Mandy.
episode 7 had great potential, all it was missing is good interesting dialog in the first part
I'm watching the first one and it's immediately started with the anti white garbage. Are they all this bad?
The first episode is literally the worst and heavy-handed with that bullshit, episode 3 has a genuinely heroic white lead, and the rest all have white male protagonists that aren't blatantly shitty characters the same way as the first episode.
Episode 5 > Episode 3 > Episode 2 >>> Rest of the episodes
I watched the first two and thought they both sucked. I wouldn't say they were shit but if I could have my time back I'd certainly do that. Are any of the other episodes worth watching?
I started at episode 3 because of the shitty reviews here on episode 1 and 2, and that was really good. episode 4 is absolute shit. do not watch under any circumstance.
Honestly episode 2 'Graveyard Rats' is waaaay more entertaining than episode 1 with none of the heavy handed politics of that episode, and probably should have been the series opener, really feels like a higher budgeted Tales From the Crypt episode, has that Zemeckis / Donner / Darabont gloss to the whole production that made it comfy to watch.
it's a story from weird tales, on of the OG horror anthology horror comics from way back
and it's not the first time it's gotten adapted
Yes yes n yes omg
First episode is white man bad and immigrants good.
I like first episode, mc actor really carried it
Yes. I enjoyed every episode overall. But holy fuck, The Viewing is probably my favorite. Absolutely peak aesthetics. The lighting, the use of colors, the music, the framing. So fucking gorgeous and mesmerizing. Cool monster, and the gore reminded me of Raiders of the Lost Ark too.
Almost skipped it because the characters and style are so fucking goofy in the intro, but it was actually really good in the end
yeah but the four guest characters sucked ass
I thought it was uneven, yes. Would have liked a more interesting ensemble.
I liked them. But only Eric Andre really kept pace with Peter Weller and Sophia Boutella. The other actors were perhaps a little out of their depth, but not enough to ruin it. The episode is just plain kino though, I really can't find any legitimate fault with it. It was marvelous to behold, every single shot was expertly done and the visuals are so beyond the rest of the series it's insane. I can't get it out of my mind.
How? It was vapid and empty, just a bunch of dumb useless cunts getting high. It takes 45 to start moving somewhere, then it just gives up right after
Every episode was decent except 4 and 8
>watching netflix
Irhygddt
I'm surprised how dark and gory most of the episodes were. Some really nasty and fucked up stuff in it. But I liked it. I did feel like Pickman's Model, Lot 36, and The Viewing all ended just when they were getting started though. I would have liked those ones to have had less abrupt endings.
Watching 'Dreams in the Witch House' now, it's very silly, even campy in places but it has a real energy and verve to, and the design of the witch herself, Keziah Mason, is a very cool design.
>We need the synthwave audience
Peter Weller is godlike in this though, I can't lie. Fucking love Weller, and Panos knows how to use him to the best of his abilities.
Yeah, he was I just thought the line was funny
is that fucking eric andre
yes. i dont really like this guy but out of all the episodes this is the one i like the most and he played whatever pretty well.
i hate how this fat fuck looks im glad hes only in the first 30 seconds of each episode
I think The Autopsy is probably the best crafted episode, but Panos Cosmatos' episode The Viewing is such a perfect synthesis of elements I love that it's probably my sentimental favorite. Dude is absolutely my favorite current filmmaker along with Robert Eggers.
Great show ending sadly ending on the wet fart that is episode 8. The whole "family drama disguised as a horror story" has been done before and so much better. Worst episode.
>directorial debut, the horror film The Babadook (2014)
Well, that explains that.
At least this one I can tell my mom she can watch since she likes horror stuff but gore is too much for her usually, this one at least is her speed.
Underrated: Episode 1
Overrated: Episode 7
Episode 3 really is the best though like everyone says.
Just saw episode 5, didn't really enjoy it. All of the aesthetics are great in the series but the episodes feel like they go on for way too long. Cut them down in half because otherwise they are too boring.
I'd almost like to see a few episodes re-edited to shorten them and tighten the editing up so a few could fit into an anthology style film format like Creepshow.
Every episode is around 10-15 minutes too long and has to hit the same beats just one time too many. They need ad breaks, honestly
I think 1 hour is kind of an awkward spot because its not quite a full feature film but its also way longer than most anthology shows. Stuff like Pickman's model felt it was stretching out Lovecraft's short story with filler to make it fit the 1 hour format.
Only saw the first episode but it felt rushed, no buildup at all. The story was basically, dude finds books, bam! DEMOOOOON.
I've watched all of them now, the first episode is one of the worst ones, the writing is heavy-handed and obvious, almost all the other ones are better, the best being episode 3 and 7.
A lot of these shorts are either heavily inspired by or directly taken from Lovecraft, and if you've ever read any of his short stories, that's basically how they all go. 20 pages of setting and character backstory and then bam, everything happens on the last page or two.
The difference is that Lovecraft will sprinkle some background details here and there to tie into the ending.
Damn, is that really how lovecrafts literature is? I was looking forward to reading some of it one day
The acting on episode 8 is on par with F. Murray Abraham on the autopsy. Top tier, and it's great that they put that one after the previous one with all the shitty comedians. Great, soulful ending
The acting in episode 8 is great. The story is dogshit tho.
Only watched the first three so far.
Episode one was okay. The main actor seemed like he was just there to collect a paycheck, the story itself wasn't anything amazing but it was interesting with the occult stuff and the design of the demon was good. Thought the ending sequence was boring and predictable. A chase, really?
Episode two was bad. As another Anon said, the protagonist doesn't really deserve his fate in this episode. He's ratty, sure, but he's just trying to make it. He's not hurting anyone. Effects suck, story sucked.
Episode three was incredible.
there was a time when graverobbery was seen as something only the lowest scum would commit.
apparently we are not living in those times anymore.
He's just trying to make it bro, he's on that sigma grindset
Shoulda be called the yawnsters of snoreorr. LOL!
Even Panos' contribution with his signature late night 80s TV commercial style and half-cartoon characters was way boring for half its running time.
The Lovecraft adaptations were a disgrace and clearly written by drooling imbeciles who thought they could outdo a horror genius. Kinda reminds me of the two Salem's Lot adaptations. The monster in Pickman's Model would've been scarier if they had chosen a random creature out of Where The Wild Things Are, but it was designed by Del Taco himself, and he couldn't tell scary from his own ass.
The Murmuring, written by Del Taco, is possibly the worst ghost story I've ever seen. The man is clearly a horror antitalent. All his siganture quirks are seen throughout the series: soap opera shit instead of character development, stylized environments with blue and green lighting, old timey settings, monster designs that miss the mark, exposition that goes nowhere. This series could also've been called The Truck Of Tacos, given his introduction.
Is Crisping Lover based or cringe in this role, my opinion flips back and forth every second line he says
I'd say based because he didn't care enough to do some authentic Boston accent and just did whatever the fuck he wanted and nobody told him not to.
>episode 1
this guy won't give me my stuff back, better hang around the lot for 2 days and sneak around him just so that later i can look at him by a door that happens to be closed. i'm such a girl boss, that's such a good revenge tactic.
also: im skeptic about supernatural stuff even though i see a literal demon before me, let me just walk over this ominous circle despite the warnings not to. also im totally chill about this, nothing creepy or weird that i should be scared about. i'm gonna totally act just a tiny bit distressed.
anyway, im not gonna pretend im not having a lot of fun watching this series despite some dumb plot holes that i willingly ignore. it's good overall.
>so that later i can look at him by a door that happens to be closed
She was camping for him to take out the trash, hoping that she can maybe scavenge through it for her stuff.
>even though i see a literal demon before me
Meds
>All these people getting filtered by Episode 1
The ending was kino. It's about how the "not my problem" mentality can have devastating consequences for others that we ourselves don't realize. The protagonist is being shown being very self-centered throughout the entire episode, only concerned with his own situation. The mexican lady's sentimental belongings was "not his problem" even though it was a very small favor. Then at the end the door being locked is "not her problem", not realizing that not doing that small favor cost the man his life. Both are ignorant to eachothers plights.
Its poetic punishment in classic horror fashion. It's a message about how small good deeds can go a long way for other people, even though they seem insignificant from our own point of view.
>It's about how the "not my problem" mentality can have devastating consequences for others that we ourselves don't realize.
No fucking shit you retard. Do you think you're a genius for realising that?
Seeing how people are calling the mexican lady cartoonishly evil its clear a staggering amount of people missed the point.
Well you know there is a magnitude of difference between getting back some family photos and being ripped apart by a demon
>ah but she didn't know about the demon
the guy's screaming in terror, that's a pretty clear cut signal that the stakes are fairly high here
This isn't a hot take, this is barely even a take
KINO episode, so many racists anons got filtered because MKULTRA triggered their brain with "woke" media
its crazy how easily conservatives and right-wingers are brainwashed even though they screech about muh freedoms all the time
I get it.
It ain’t makin me feel.
But I get it.
>episode 1
I was expecting him to start singing and dancing
He is a terrible actor.
>NOOOO DONT EAT ME
>IM SORRY FOR BEING SUCH A CHUD I PROMISE I WONT BE A CHUD ANYMORE
>I FOUGHT IN VIETNAM YOU CANT JUST EAT ME FOR BEING AN ANGRY LITTLE CHUD AAAAAAAAAAA
sex neck!
that's a sexy neck!
In the first one, why was the old guy butchering cats? And why was he visiting the storage unit all the time? I figured he'd be feeding the cats to the demon but it didn't seem like that was the case in the end.
He was feeding them to her, the occult book guy comments on how she must be starving.
But why?
In fact what was the old guy getting from the demon at all? What was the point of keeping it locked up?
Because the deal always ends with the demon killing the summoner and the 4th book spontaneously combusting.
If your next question is why summon then I'd like to preempt it by saying because shit writing.
Fair
its weird tho, supposedly the guy sacrificed his own sister to summon this demon and then...does nothing with it?
ok.
One would assume the demon granted him something in return but dont ask guillermo about it.
what could it have been?
it wasnt wealth, he was living very modestly.
it wasnt health or youth either.
so wtf was it?
or maybe he just hated his sis and wanted to kill her creatively.
Maybe it was to get out of Germany at the end of the war and not have to face penalty for being a Nazi
But if that was the case they definitely should have articulated it
but the sacrifice was done long after he fled germany.
well, i guess deltaco has a real hardon for nazis.
i wonder if we see him doing stuff like that with communist functionaries.
It was a year after the war ended. Maybe it was like a post-dated cheque, "Get us out of here and set us up nicely in the US and after a year I'll give you my sister"
>all this lorem ipsum garbage text
lazy
>Adobe Minion font in anything before 2000
They didn't pay the prop guys working on this much
Maybe he and his sister were just joking around with the books and it happened accidentally and he was trying to find a cure
hmm..he accidentally tied her her hands and feet and made a summoners circle with red sand around her?
No the demon initially wasnt that fucked up and they could communicate with it and only when it became clear that he would kill him and never leave the sister he worked something out.
Dont make me do the writers work please.
this actually sounds very plausible, but this should have been better communicated by the show.
He was, hence why he always leaves with the bag empty. The demon is starving since nobody is feeding it since he died.
Watched the Graveyard Rats ep.
It was pretty well done, the MC was an idiot, but the ending was spot on. Seems like the series pulls from a lot of other stories, which is kind of nice.
The practical effects are really good.
The autopsy>The Murmuring>Lot 26=Graveyard Rats>>The Outside
Murmering I got a little bit spooked, it had some decent tension and the slow pace of it was good but near the end it lost its wonder and obviously they just needed to finish it.
Lot 36 The main character was interesting to see and bad rats had more of a fun type of horror vibes to it. The Outside has some fargo vibes to it.
Rest I thought weren't that great, The VIewing was absolute horseshit, it's a bunch of talking leading into mindless death and gore just because.
I liked the murmuring, autopsy and the viewing but graveyard rats was only meh and the other episodes were pretty damn terrible.
Lot 36 in particular is complete garbage from a writing and theming pov and really the only worthwhile thing about it is blake nelsons performance.
It's so bad it's unintentionally funny like when he just decides to not believe in demons even though there is demon in front of him.
Or when the consuela kills him for being """evil""".
The lovecraft ones are arguably the worst ones, basically a how-not-to-do-lovecraft-adaptations guide.
the atmosphere and the ending of the viewing was p good tho, but yeah, too much talking.
I want to watch it but I don't have Netflix
Just torrent, bro
Do people really not know how to use illegal streaming sites in 2022?
rarbg
qbittorrent
Why the fuck does Nick get hated on when it's Eddie's fucking fault for being a shiftless nagger and not updating the mexican lady's details when she told him to
Or fuck what about the mexican lady for not paying her fucking bills
no the white man deserves to die for not cleaning up the messes of the other races
If you start thinking about this episode for a moment it gets real redpilling real fast
bro he could've just let her have her photos. there is no way you can spin this around as the guy not being a piece of shit. just say you're racist you're on Cinemaphile you don't have to come up with retarded justifications.
>the onuis of responsibility is on the white man to perform an act of altruism because a nagger and a wetback can't keep their ships running tight
Is this not the case? Tell me how it isn't.
them being naggers and making mistakes doesn't change that he could've just let her take her photos.
>but akshually he technically didn't do anything wrong.
you're as dumb as the naggers you hate so much.
The White man died because he was a cunt.
More like Cabinet of Reddit, amirite haha
reddit probably has better taste, this shit belongs here
The book burned when Roland died.
Roland is very well informed about the particulars of the case.
Roland is German.
The story takes place in 2003, even if the old guy was in his 80s he still would have only been in his twenties during the war, a little young to be cutting deals with demons.
What I think happened is this:
>Roland is the father of Dottie and Old Guy
>He's the Nazi, he gets the family out of Germany
>he cuts a deal with the demon for wealth and immortality in exchange for his daughter
>Young Old Guy finds out, can't stop the ritual taking place but manages to somehow take her away and hide her in the storage unit
>He spends years trying to figure out how to save her, eventually gives up and settles for just feeding the demon in a misguided attempt to keep his sister alive in some form
>Roland spends the intervening time living his best life and always staying involved in supernatural jinkies stuff in the hopes of finding where his son his his daughter/demon
You just put more thought and effort into the episode than anyone on the production team.
>The book burned when Roland died.
thats true, i also wondered what that was about.
i guess you are on to something here.
that could also be the reason why the guy wasnt that scared at the demon when it came to consume him, he thought of it as his daughter.
Yeah the way he calls it Dottie seems much more familial than someone who just has an interest in the story
What about the weird hopping thing the old guy did that they point out like 4 seperate times and then never mention again, sherlock?
Protection ritual to ward him from the demon while he fed it. Roland tells Nick not to interact with the demon in any way so it likely has some kind of mesmerising effect it can use to manipulate you.
Focusing on the backstory you had to fill in for them would've made a much better episode
Great post, it was really weird how Roland didn't run away when the demon was freed. He wasn't looking for the book, he was looking for Dottie.
It takes place in 1991, zoomzoom.
kino show but Monsterland was kinoer to be fair
Episode 1 felt like it needed to be a full length film, the premise, mystery and direction was good but it felt rushed and the demon reveal is too quick and then it just ends in a chase. I think this might be a scrapped film script from Del Toro because it kind of feels like it.
Episode 5 felt like it needed to be shorter, the stuff they added to the Lovecraft short story just made it worse and less focused.
I was fine with the stuff they added to the Pickman story. At least the story itself is still in there. Witch House, on the other hand, has almost nothing in common with the story and would have been better off being called something else.
it was a real bummer when the lovecraft episodes turned out to be the worst of the bunch, i was really looking forward to them.
have you read del toro's script for mountains of madness? I'm guessing not since you're surprised.
no i havent, why?
is it really that bad?
i thought he could be someone who understood lovecraft, but except on a very superficial level that doesnt seem to be the case.
he turned it into a quippy action comedy where shoggoths get blown up and cthulhu throws a ship at the camera in 3D
since there was no cthulhu in the mountains of madness i can only assuming youre making a jest on my expense.
First episode immediately built this white strawman for del Toro to beat up, this type of sanctimonious writing pissed me off so bad I turned it off halfway through. I used to love del Toro's movies, but ever since he decided he hated me for my race and heterosexuality, I've found it really hard to like him. The guy's rich and light skinned, fucking lay off the guilt trip.
what
The guy can't just be a jerk, he has to be a racist sexist jerk (also white).
just imagine the guy is black
>first fucking five minutes, guy listening to a caricature of fox news saying "fuck yeah" at some of the most blatantly strawmanned talking points
>"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?"
>oh please sir, i'm just little mexican gramma please i made mistake give me my key and storage locker back
>no, i bought it, it's not my problem
I stopped watching right there, but I'm sure there was plenty more. I'm sitting in my own fucking house just trying to forget how awful the world is, thinking I'm gonna have a fun scary halloween show to watch. I am not going to watch your garbage race-baiting propaganda. I am not a slave owner, I am not running the camps at the border, my ancestors were not slave owners, and I've always been and will always be kind and courteous to people regardless of their race. Fuck off with the guilt trip, I'm tired of being told how evil I am when five seconds of reading about history shows no race's hands are clean and that white people are a worldwide minority that everyone has suddenly decided needs shamed and eradicated while simultaneously and ironically spewing anti-racist rhetoric in every last square inch of new and entertainment media.
It's just so blatant, and people like you are either too dumb or playing dumb like you can't see.
>"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?"
This was the worst one for me, it just telegraphed Guillermo's whole outlook. Because Eddie doesn't reply, just gives him this diminishing look. Because the people in the audience are supposed to think "The very concept of white rage is inherently ridiculous compared to the valid and brave concept of Black rage, even though I can't say exactly why it's ridiculous everyone knows it's ridiculous, so ridiculous that this is a negatively character defining point for the character who said it". The school of racial thought where everyone accepts the same Truths because everyone else accepts them, and if you don't you're not in the cool kids club.
>>"you say white rage, what if i said black rage?"
Way to fail at understanding body language, retard. The black guy realizes that the main character is right in saying that.
You fags are pathetic
>complaining about the liberal side pouring propaganda down your throat while saying the same side can't tolerate anything that doesn't fit their agenda
you're not any different, you won't see anything involving a white racist because you immediately feel like someone's preaching to you, politics have fucked both the entertainment side and the audience one, learn how to be happy again for fucks sake
>notice youre being demonized in media
>noooo you cant do that dont you know youre just like the israelites!
shutup homosexual
cope forever fag
>learn how to be happy again for fucks sake
i'm plenty happy when i avoid propaganda, so i won't be watching this racist garbage.
No I think I'll just delete this shit off my hard drive and never sub netflix again.
Keep shilling for people who want you and your kids dead though.
what was up with the viewing?
they had great actors, a great director but its just meaningless talking until right the end?
do i miss something here?
You didn't miss anything, its overrated as fuck. It doesn't even give you enough to go on to be an interesting mystery
Cool, I thought I was the only one who discovered and enjoyed (for now) this series. I watched the first 3 episodes and really liked it.
The first episode (Lot 36) builds up an appetite for the rest of the show, the actors are good and creepy even if I found a few flaws here and there.
Graveyard Rats (episode 2) is a pure masterpiece, the context, the actors (Death from Supernatural and Rodney from Stargate Atlantis are perfect, as usual).
The Autopsy (episode 3) was a bit slow at the beginning but when we finally get to the heart of the matter (the autopsy), it was great.
Once again, the actors are of very good quality, but Guillermo del Toro doing his Hitchcock at the beginning of each episode is a bit annoying but since he did a good job, I forgive him.
It’s pretty ducking forgettable. It’s horror in the same way pans lab is technically horror and so is bellboy because they deal with monsters. But most of these episodes are not remotely scary and are actually pretty tame and boring as most lacked an original idea or if they had one it was boring.
she was so hot
almost hotter without eyes
Very kino episode imo. Super fucked up. What was Pickman's problem?
Was the only good part of the whole episode. And what was that one guy's accent supposed to be?
when crispin glover wants to do an accent you dont tell crispin glover no if you value your skin being attached to your body.
Surprised to see Glover at all honestly, I thought he was blacklisted from Hollywood.
So what is the take-away on The Viewing exactly? People who succumb to their base desires and senses meet their demise?
The Asian chick and Andre's characters seem to be the only two who show resistance of just embracing pleasure and "going with the flow". They're the two characters who's drinks are non-alcoholic, and Andre's characters is a recovering drug addict. When the alien puts them in a trance they're the only ones who manage to snap out of it while the others are too spellbound.
>So what is the take-away on The Viewing exactly?
synthwave and neon and drugs are based something something eldritch alien lmao
They both do take the weed and cocaine though, so not really. I guess it just means they had greater free will in which to break the creature's spell since they did hesitate against the peer pressure? I think the take away is that the monster is going to kill everyone on Earth though, just albeit very slowly.
What did people hate so much about Pickman's Model? I thought it was great
Ends too abruptly and darkly for most people's taste I think. Him finding his son's head in the oven is pretty fucked up. But I thought it was good myself. Stayed much more true to Lovecraft's work than the witch one.
The shot of his son's head in the oven sums it up. Low effort and mediocre.
Is the one with kate micucci good
Unironic waifu
Seems to be pretty hated here but five episodes in I think it's better than most of them. At least it's not completely predictable from the first five minutes.
I don't really know what to think of it, personally. It's bizarre and kind of uncomfortable. It feels like the whole episode is shot with a fish eye lens from odd angles aping the Jim Carrey Grinch movie. Kind of sickening to look at actually. It is certainly different and unique though. I didn't hate it, there are two other much weaker episodes so I would rank it 6th.
in the autopsy how did carl write on himself with blood if the ayylmao was controlling his body?
he had 1 hand free and wrote on it before it entered him
God the rats would be a nightmare scenario, crawling around in cramped quarters, underground. Screw that
Had to rewatch The Viewing, it was just too good. It and Graveyard Rats are the MVP's of this series.
If by 'The Viewing' you meant 'The Autopsy' then you're right.
The Viewing is overrated. It's really well made, stylish and aesthetic but the story of the characters just isn't interesting enough. They had a whole hour to develop shit and we get like a tiny amount of characterization when that's the entire explored part of the plot. It should have been 40 minutes shorter.
Fat "white man bad" perverted pedo retard who can only "direct" things when he has good set designers and cinematographers.
Seethe more chudinski
How scary is this? I'm a fan of Guillermo Del Toro but I'm also a huge pussy.
Things that scared me and made me quit watching/playing:
- The PT demo. Never finished it. Played 5 minutes and quit.
- Silent Hill games too scary.
- Resident Evil games too scary.
- Haven't watched any horror movie in like 10 years
- Haunting of Hill House on Netflix, turned it off after 12 minutes or so.
- Have to walk home when it's getting dark? You best believe I'm running.
Can I watch Cabinet of Curiosities or will I suffer a heart attack?
It's not scary at all.
Okay I will trust you anons. I'm gonna do it!!
Scary in a kind of exciting comfy way to me. Some tense moments but nothing that will keep you up at night probably.
Episode 3 might be too much if you're not into seeing people get cut open
Not particularly scary, but it does have intense and suspenseful moments and quite a bit of gore. The gross out factor is definitely what would be too much for some people. If you thought Haunting of Hill House was too scary (great show but I'm not sure what about it would scare someone), this might be I guess? I say give it a shot, many of the stories are fairly slow burn with great acting and it's a treat for the creature designs alone.
I’ve only seen the first episode. It’s pretty heavy on the social politics of white man bad, but the story itself is cheesy and camp enough to be entertaining. I mean, it’s about accultist nazis. It almost felt like a good episode of Buffy.
I’ll probably keep watching. The show is enjoyable enough, but I wouldn’t really call it good just yet
Just got one episode left.
Graveyard Rats, The Autopsy, and The Viewing were VERY good halloween movie, liked Pickman's Model and Lot 36 too, but not as much.
The rest I could take or leave.
OH GOD I'm so unattractive. How could you possibly love me.
v. respectable butte if I'm tbh with you
Still mad the lotion peeling off wasn't actually her skin
I couldn't believe it at the end we didn't get a shot of her walking into the bank all stacy-like and seeing her co-workers horrified and it cuts back to show most of her skin sloughing off and peeling.
I literally cannot get through the Murmuration bros. I keep stopping out of sheer boredom.
Its really weak, also really disappointing coming from the director of Babadook. She kind of feels like a one trick pony
Maybe it's because the babadook also sucked and everbody just fellates it because they think they're supposed to like it?
Thanks though, I couldn't remember why the woman in the murmuring seemed familiar.
>watching it waiting for something interesting to happen
>check vid time and see 8 minutes left
really this is what you chose to end it on atleast put pickmans model or the kino alien ep as the last one
I got through it, but it was carried almost entirely by shots that were reminiscent of The Birds and Andrew Lincoln's performance. The main character was not likable and the story was very bland and derivative. It should have leaned all the way in to being an adaptation of The Birds instead of a generic ghost story metaphor for a miscarriage.
Alright my ranking from best to worst:
3. The Autopsy
7. The Viewing
2. Graveyard Rats
5. Pickman's Model
8. The Murmuring
4. The Outside
1. Lot 36
6. Dreams in the Witch House
Mine is:
>The Viewing
>The Autopsy
>Graveyard Rats
>Pickman's Model
>Lot 36
>The Outside
>Dreams in the Witch House
>The Murmuring
Both are objectively correct rankings. Nice taste Anons.
Mine is:
The Autopsy
The Viewing tied closely with The Autopsy.
Graveyard Rats.
Pickman's Model.
The Outside.
The Murmuring.
Lot 36.
Dreams in the With House.
>The Autopsy
>The Viewing
>Pickman's Model
>The Murmuring
>Graveyard Rats
>Dreams in the Witch House
>Lot 36
>The Outside
>
The Autopsy
Pickmans Model
Graveyard Rats
The Viewing
Lot 36
The Outside
Dreams In The Witch House
The Murmuring
1. The Viewing
2. Graveyard Rats
3. The Autopsy
4. Outside
5. Lot 36
6. Pickman's Model
7. The Murmuring
8. Dreams In The Witch House
from best to worst
the autopsy
pickmans model
the viewing
the murmuring
the outside
graveyard rats
lot 36
dreams in the witch house
3 > 4 > 7 > 5 > 8 > 2 > 1 > 6
People are rating The Outside lower than I thought, I really liked the almost Coen style midwest characters and TV hallucinations. A bit underwhelming at the very end but overall good
I will say this. I ranked The Outside low but I still think it's worth watching for Micucci and Dan Steven's performances and the production design is good, the only truly dogshit episode of the whole series is Dreams in the Witch House, imo.
Yeah I've only seen up to 5 but I'd put it second so far.
>A bit underwhelming at the very end
Yeah, the whole episode was going so well, just a bumpy ending but can't complain too much.
so we all agree that autopsy is certified kino
3>5>2>6>7>8>1>4
>autopsy
>the viewing (based cosmatos)
>pickman's model
>graveyard rats
>lot 36 (best monster design of the bunch)
>the outside
>the murmuring
>dreams in the witch house
Great visuals but almost every episode has something sabotaging my enjoyment. Mostly weak writing I guess.
It's great that something like this can get made, but I'm angry over so much wasted potential.
By the very nature of the anthology format it's going to be a mixed bag, and some stories are going to be pressed for time to fit into the one-episode format, but I do think this has been way more successful and rewarding than Masters of Horror was or the recent Creepshow revival, and The Autopsy was genuinely tightly written and incredibly satisfying on a narrative level, already tempted to say it's a new, modern horror/sci-fi classic.
>8. outside
>7. dreams in the witch house
>6. graveyard rats
>5. pickman's model
>4. the autopsy
>3 lot 36
>2. the viewing
>1. the murmuring
do you agree?
Ranking The Outside at the bottom and The Murmuring at the top just reeks of seething feminist. So, no.
graveyard rats would've been a lot better without the stupid zombie
The zombie was the only part I liked about it
I think it's nice that everyone has different opinions about which ones were good. There was something to like in all of them, even if they didn't all quite work.
More like Guillermo del Toro's Closet of Bicuriosities
what was his accent supposed to be?
It's the weird little guy accent
It worked for me, set him apart from the normies, and Lovecraft always has a character that's a conduit for The Old Ones that is supposed to be "off" compared to the rest of the characters in each individual story.
My guess would be Irish immigrant to Boston. His character is already much older in the story than Thurber, so it makes sense that his original Irish accent has morphed and changed over time to somewhat sound like a native Boston one.
>yes i post on Cinemaphile
>yes i watch every netflix show the day of release
>yes i am a discord tranny or paid shill
>mumbled Mexican accent and heavy breathing
Thanks Dell Taco! These introductions are incomprehensible
The only episode that is genuinely donkey shit was Dreams in the Witch House, the rest are at least worth watching, but that one was irredeemable trash.
the one good thing about that episode was the design of the witch, was a very classic del taco design
Just watched The Outside, loved the mood of it. The scene where she puts her hands to the TV was perfect. Definitely my favourite besides the last 1/3 of The Autopsy. The effects in that were masterfully done, nothing has made me feel as squeamish as that in a long time.
Yeah same I am not good at seeing people get cut open and they did it convincingly for what felt like twenty minutes. Really liked the ending too.
Can Netflix deliver season 2 just as good or will they WOKE it?
Good-ish season 1 followed by wokeshit after they've hooked you is the Netflix MO after all.
Bunch of plebs not appreciating the absolute kino mixture of Fargo with even more absurd comedy, barely a step removed from bimbofication erotica.
>Bunch of plebs not appreciating the absolute kino mixture of Fargo with even more absurd comedy, barely a step removed from bimbofication erotica.
A man of culture, the similarities are godly.
I really hope so. Assuming it gets more seasons to begin with.
finished it. theres one or two that are kind of mediocre but most of them are quite good
There are one or two that are good but most of them are mediocre*