Gunnerkrigg Court

Chapter 85: Page 27

Doesn't seem likely...

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's more of a reaction to this than to the deaths of Court and Forest Annie.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People tend to react more when the dog dies than a hume.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they didnt die they merged into one

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They are gone. They were 2 unique souls and now there's 1 different soul.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, I... understand.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm real sad for you Rey and imma let you finish, but Court Annie was the most precious girl of all time. Of all time!

      I'll be real with you, I had already completely forgotten there were two Annie's for so long.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm real sad for you Rey and imma let you finish, but Court Annie was the most precious girl of all time. Of all time!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Lets restore her body, if nothing else.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, nothing else, of course. She'd be naked. Body restoration magic doesn't restore clothes, duh, everyone knows that.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >ywn have a meathusk Courtnie gf
          Why live

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >meathusk
            I liked her for her personality. 🙁

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And how would you get her mind back? You can't just grow it in a tube like her body. That'd be some recursive ass time travel given she's already the product of a localised divergence in time-space.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I kill nuAnnie and restore the two Annies that she killed so she could live, undoing the crime and setting things right.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder what the mechanisms behind us... understanding are? It's some kind of conceptual union at least. Could the two be cleaved from NuAnnie? Even if they could would they now, having lived as the one once more, retained memories of a persona that absorbed both their memories making them once more indistinguishable? Would they retake their old personalities out of obligation? Would they yearn for reunion where before they were non-plussed? Could they just as easily absorb NuAnnie into themselves as NuAnnie did to them retaining their develop personae?
                All very tricky.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They couldn't, obviously. It's just wishful thinking.
                I just wish Tom would acknowledge the loss at some point. We got one panel, that's it. Never brought up again.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >obviously
                Is this a legendary understander who actually understands? Because nothing about that is obvious. Tom could say whatever the frick he wanted about what happened and you'd just have to say 'ah I understand'. It's obvious they will not be cleaved but that doesn't mean the means by or conditions under which this all occurred are obvious.

                Coyote's Tooth will be used to cleave Annie in two again

                Now that would be a fricking trip
                >story concludes with Court staying with Rey and Forest staying with Ysen
                Coyote is a good brother making sure his bros are getting laid.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >legendary understander
                I'm saying that doing the same to undo what happened to them would probably be just as immoral and that I assume that they were merged in a way that nuAnnie doesn't house 2 souls within her, so the two can't be separated unless you manually rewrite their personalities and memories and stuff, which honestly sounds even worse than the fusion. You'd be Frankensteining together your new old Annies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Coyote's Tooth will be used to cleave Annie in two again

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's pretty obvious to me that the two Annies still exist in Annie's mind, engaging in endless sexual intercourse as a representation of their union on not just a mental but physical level. Annie still has a calm exterior, because in completing herself she has in fact found balance, but if you could peer into her mind scape you'd find the two Annies still in there, going at it like weasels, nonstop. [s]Given how much of the art was futa/female l, you could even make an argument that one of them would have to fill in for a male aspect and thus have a dong, if that floats your boat. It's not my thing but I love fueling you perverts.[/s]

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't even remember trying to put in the spoiler tags like that but whatever, point stands.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Failed spoiler aside you honestly raise a kind of fair point. A lot of ancient cultures and mystic traditions believed that balance was inherently split between some kind of male and female element. If there were two separate consciousness in there that "balanced" Annie out, one could assume that one of them would take on a male and the other a female aspect. Which in mysticism doesn't necessarily mean that one of them would have a literal actual penis but just take on male roles. One of the Annies having a penis to frick herself with IS my thing though, so I'm going to just pretend that's the case.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >A lot of ancient cultures and mystic traditions believed that balance was inherently split between some kind of male and female element.
                The Tao Te Ching actually has a whole series of passages about how balance can only come about through a masculine and feminine element, and there's one where Laozi basically laughs to himself about how fricking is a perfect embodiment of that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Failed spoiler aside you honestly raise a kind of fair point. A lot of ancient cultures and mystic traditions believed that balance was inherently split between some kind of male and female element. If there were two separate consciousness in there that "balanced" Annie out, one could assume that one of them would take on a male and the other a female aspect. Which in mysticism doesn't necessarily mean that one of them would have a literal actual penis but just take on male roles. One of the Annies having a penis to frick herself with IS my thing though, so I'm going to just pretend that's the case.

                >A lot of ancient cultures and mystic traditions believed that balance was inherently split between some kind of male and female element.
                The Tao Te Ching actually has a whole series of passages about how balance can only come about through a masculine and feminine element, and there's one where Laozi basically laughs to himself about how fricking is a perfect embodiment of that.

                >Annie's internally railing herself at all times and by necessity
                Hot

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Time to breed you a new body darling

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Get on it Annie, chop chop.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing has seemed more likely in the history of likelihood.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >pages and pages and pages of nothing
    >suddenly LE WILD LOUPE APPEARS! LE RENARD BODY IS BLOWD UP! LMAO ITS GONE
    Why does Tom have the pacing of someone who destroyed his brain on salvia

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because you've been reading one page every 2-3 days. They're paced for print.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That makes it even worse when shitty melodramatic "action" shit is over and done with in the span of 3 seconds like now.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This might have had more impact before Kat learned how to make perfect new bodies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Genuine psychopath take

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Annie
      Rey
      You just watched Kat create literally thousands of organic bodies
      This is moronic

      What part of "it wouldn't be his real body" is having trouble sinking in? Rey isn't even that fond of all the techno shit either.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Annie
      Rey
      You just watched Kat create literally thousands of organic bodies
      This is moronic

      >Dude just don't worry about your old body, just don't feel anything because your friend can make you a plastic one, it's moronic for you to have a gut reaction to anything
      And I thought I was moronic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        What part of "it wouldn't be his real body" is having trouble sinking in? Rey isn't even that fond of all the techno shit either.

        What part of "Kat made real bodies" is too complicated for you dipshits?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Are you seriously trying to claim that Rey should just passively shrug his shoulders and go "Oh Kat can make me a new body lmao no big deal"? I want you to think about this for more than the two seconds it takes you to write contrarian bullshit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Actual psycho.

            [...]
            [...]
            We already went over this shit in the last thread, Kat being able to make Rey a new body doesn't mean that Rey wouldn't have any attachment to it and that he'd just be ok with his old body being destroyed. Even if he was ultimately ok with it, watching your physical body literally go up in flames right in front of you isn't just something you roll your eyes at.

            >Rey hasn't been in his body for literally the entire comic. Years.
            >Making new organic bodies is a trivial
            >Body hopping for Rey is trivial
            What is happening is fricking pointless and you're all stupid.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Either trolling for the sake of argument or just beyond help.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >No argument
              >Resorting to name calling
              Thank you for the concession

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's ok to be wrong anon, nobody knows who you are here.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with you. Reynard hasn't complained in recent memory and the fact he warped the doll to be a form he is comfortable with means he could probably give zero fricks about his original body because he chose a bigger and probably stronger dog form. There's no reason why Reynard couldn't take his fox form right now if he really wanted to but he never has because obviously the dog is way cooler. He left his original body so he could frick a human right?

              I think Reynard would care about his original body but not so much as the others here think. The creatures of the forest have demonstrated great flexibility for their forms and not only that they often have the ability to choose something that's practical. Pretty sure if we could ask Ysengrin if he liked his original shitty weak body he'd say no and being some kind of tree-root Resident Evil monster is way fricking cooler than being crippled.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's not like a moment like this couldn't have impact, the problem is the comic has done nothing to build it. If Rey were doggedly pursuing his original body at the expense of other concerns then the audience might get the sense that he really cares and losing it would be a tragedy. What we have is basically the opposite: a situation where Rey has consistently not cared about what body he's in and hasn't expressed any interest in returning to it (at least not in recent memory).

                This really does feel like filler put in because having Kat just come right back would feel weird.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                See I'm only here because it seems like something has happened in this comic, which is the only fricking time it's worth participating in these stories. And this whole discussion sounds like every other fricking infrequent discussion I see or have when I return to these threads and that's just either the status quo being restored or something that is just maintaining the status quo but wreathed in some meaningless drama, this whole thing is obviously the latter JUST like it was for the two Annies going back to one Annie.

                I agree this moment could have impact but just like every other goddamn thing in this story it's not in service to anything. I don't even fricking know what's happening in the story anymore and it always feels like I don't need to because people like you confirm what I suspect is always the case that nothing has happened in the interim.

                That fricking secret announcement likely coming in August that this horseshit got picked up for a television series is going to fricking break my mind if it turns out to be true. Because whoever is throwing money at this must be the dumbest motherfricker in entertainment.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The comic has meandered ever since they wrapped up the business with Jeanne. That was more or less the main through-line for most of the comic and for some reason this Loup arc is just stagnant.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                An animated series would start with all the good shit and take 2-3 seasoms before it hit the current spate of shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Because whoever is throwing money at this must be the dumbest motherfricker in entertainment.
                >Meandering franchise that you can keep making installments for ad infinitum because it never actually reaches the end and draws things out, with a proven niche and dedicated fanbase
                Actually it's an executive's wet dream.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He likely didn't even know his body still existed.
                Why are all you guys such supreme autists?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >He likely didn't even know his body still existed.
                That makes the moment have less impact, not more

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Only in your weird autist world.
                Do you understand the concept of sentimental value? Or, like, feelings, at least?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I had such sentimental value for this thing I abandoned, have never shown any interest in regaining, and possibly didn't know still existed!
                You have brain problems.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If Rey were doggedly pursuing his original body at the expense of other concerns
                He can't really do that as a prisoner of the Court.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >doggedly
                Hah!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Actual psycho.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Annie
      Rey
      You just watched Kat create literally thousands of organic bodies
      This is moronic

      [...]
      What part of "Kat made real bodies" is too complicated for you dipshits?

      We already went over this shit in the last thread, Kat being able to make Rey a new body doesn't mean that Rey wouldn't have any attachment to it and that he'd just be ok with his old body being destroyed. Even if he was ultimately ok with it, watching your physical body literally go up in flames right in front of you isn't just something you roll your eyes at.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Now what was that look Loop had on the last page, before he zoomed off? Did he expect a violent retaliation and was mad that he didn't get it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It seems like a toss up between him expecting fear/respect as the vengeful good he is or feeling angry that it didn't feel as good as he expected.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >*vengeful god

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's a "damn, I'm still jealous though" face.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ysengrim part of him coping and seething that Annie is so close with Reynard.

      Did the theme of jealousy get lost on you or something?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think any human emotion is lost on about 50% of these threads.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Annie
    Rey
    You just watched Kat create literally thousands of organic bodies
    This is moronic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You vill enter ze Donlan Body™ instead of your real free body and you vill be happy.

      Note: Donlan Bodies™ may or may not function like Plankton's chum bucket head and you may forfeit all free will and autonomy upon using zem

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >dude, use this plastic toy lmao
      you sound like a grandma on christmas offering rattatoing to their kids thinking it's really rattatouille.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I like how I can tell which posts are yours because you keep insisting the flesh and blood bodies kat made are "plastic"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          tbh I made the first post saying that it was plastic

          [...]
          >Dude just don't worry about your old body, just don't feel anything because your friend can make you a plastic one, it's moronic for you to have a gut reaction to anything
          And I thought I was moronic

          and that anon

          >dude, use this plastic toy lmao
          you sound like a grandma on christmas offering rattatoing to their kids thinking it's really rattatouille.

          isn't me, I think it's just a good metaphor to describe an artificial body. Like a doll made out of plastic. Quoted both posts for screencap purposes if you don't believe me.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what a seething moron lmao.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            tbh I made the first post saying that it was plastic [...] and that anon [...] isn't me, I think it's just a good metaphor to describe an artificial body. Like a doll made out of plastic. Quoted both posts for screencap purposes if you don't believe me.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I mean you asked for it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even if it was a perfectly cloned biological body, Rey has lost his original one.

          Really anon, this is sounding like "oh your dog died? Just buy a new one."

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Autism

            I mean you asked for it.

            double autism

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Resorting to name-calling again
              Thank you for conceding

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                to name-calling again
                >Thank you for conceding

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              A screencap is autism now? Lol wut

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It was always a sign of utter defeat, only autists believe it proves anything on Cinemaphile. you would know if you werent' a tertiary fishing for karma

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >tertiary

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They ARE very likely made from plastics.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-healing_material

          They most certainly AREN'T flesh and blood.
          That would be a very inefficient and silly way of making these bodies. Why would Kat remake all kinds of leftovers from human evolution instead of starting from scratch and developing a far superior structure?
          The goal of giving the robots living bodies isn't to remake humans exactly, it was to give the robots living bodies that can change over time and that don't bind them to a structure as limited as a cpu.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the doll renard is bound to has secretly been a forest creature totem this entire time
      >the whole "anything with eyes" bit is Renard being a moron he got DOUBLE TRICKED by Surma and bound into an object specifically made to turn him human
      >it's already been established that if Renard goes through the transition he'll remain male because he was an animal and not a fairy

      God DAMNIT the foreshadowing is all there.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This seems oddly rushed, they went from hearing about Loup doing stuff to him torching Renard's body in only a couple of pages.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I said it before: this is just filler to not have Annie just wait for Kat to come back.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're all reading too much into this. Renard doesn't seem extremely upset, just somewhat sad. He's had time to move on but still has an attachment to his original body because it's his original body. He's not devastated but he sure as shit isn't just unphased either.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Which wasn't really the point anyways - the audience knows that this action has no consequences.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Neat, been off this board a year so entirely forgot about gunnerpoop fail.

    Has anything actually happened in that time, or is Tom still a coward regards wrapping it up?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kat made a whole bunch of human bodies for the robits
      Loup made a real doll for Annie
      Zimmy murdered the two Annies and made a new Annie and you understand

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick happened to this thread, I post about Annie fricking herself in her mindscape and come back to giga spergs sperging the frick out. All of you are autistic, holy shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. Less autism, more lewds.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait til Kat builds Rey a body with a 3-foot wiener.
    That'll show Loup

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Coming to this board just for one webcomic is more suffering than losing one's original body.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I feel that. All the other webcomics I came for are on indefinite hiatus or just have really boring arcs going on.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        list 'em pretty please

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mostly Ava's Demon and Devil's Candy

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Ava's Demon
            Ah yes, another webcomic with a gaggle of characters I want to frick. Especially Ava and Wrathia.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It was always Maggie for me. She could match Annie in a contest for highest Libido.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Maggie is also a fair choice, it's one of those comics where practically the whole cast is frickable. I tend to imagine that Ava's a repressed freak like Annie and that Wrathia basically turns her wrathful side into sexual energy in the bedroom, which granted the comic's made a frickload of sexual situations out of her. Maggie I think just wears it on her sleeve, you know what you're getting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Maggie talks big butbexpects you to do all the work, unless you're EXACTLY her type at which point she does all the work for you.
                Ava starts out shy and awkward but builds into a total nympho as you go at it.
                Wrathia just straight up jumps your bones if you're willing or not, doesn't stop until she's satisfied, doesn't take no for an answer. At the end of it you wonder if you just got raped.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I know right? It feels like this is the only webcomic with frickall happening right now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >reading webcomics

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >"You come to Cinemaphile just to discuss Gunnerkrigg?"

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I do, too.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This board's gone to total fricking shit in the last few years and despite the intense autism, the fact that these threads still have genuine discussion and unabashed lewdposting makes them feel like some last haven of the old days.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This thread demonstrates why the frick nobody participates in them anymore. It's clear and explicitly said a few people have returned to the thread to discuss what is going on and they make the correct point that Rey losing his body is one of the most trivial meaningless things in this universe and they shit on the guy.

          I mean, you can't tell who is who but I feel like you frickers who are always in this thread are the hostile ones and I feel like you b***hes should maybe have been more aware that people have come back to the thread and not gone full autism on them. But you did, you went full /vg/ but that's not surprising as you'd have to be like /vg/ to keep discussion going for three days a week when nothing happens.

          I seriously wonder how many of you morons are to blame for our drawgays leaving us. After all these fricking years you're still here making nobody feel welcome even when it's so fricking clear some of us have returned.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the correct point
            Except it very clearly isn't. 😀
            Why are you so intent of convincing people otherwise?
            >you f*ckers
            >you b*tches
            >you'd have to be like /vg/ to keep discussion going for three days a week when nothing happens
            >I seriously wonder how many of you morons are to blame for our drawgays leaving us
            >you f*ckers who are always in this thread are the hostile ones
            Okay.
            😐
            All anyone has said is that this is a terrible thing to happen to Rey. How are we supposed to prove that? You going on and on about it as if what you're doing is discussing the topic comes across as pretty autistic. That's fine, no one is trying to take away your worldview, but you are clearly being the unreasonable one, dude.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I mean, you can't tell who is who but I feel like you frickers who are always in this thread are the hostile ones and I feel like you b***hes
            Please for the love of frick tell me that this sentence fragment was written ironically

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I seriously wonder how many of you morons are to blame for our drawgays leaving us.
            The drawgays left us because of pure concentrated autism from some weirdo that was totally insistent that threads should only be about discussion and kept spamming about "thread purity", not people disagreeing with your stance that Rey shouldn't be bothered by this. It's not even especially hostile, and you calling people "frickers" and "bitches" feels pretty damn pointed dude.
            >After all these fricking years you're still here making nobody feel welcome even when it's so fricking clear some of us have returned.
            >some of us
            If you're actually a drawgay then post an example of your work, people have still been very welcoming of drawgays here.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >that Rey losing his body is one of the most trivial meaningless things in this universe
            No, it's not.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Well I guess that solves whether or not Rey cared before this or not, kek

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Well I guess that solves whether or not Rey cared before this or not, kek

              Don't worry, I'm sure the autist will find some reason to keep arguing. Like "off-comic Q&A aren't canon" or "This was answered before Kat could make new bodies".

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              is that from the wiki?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Looks like it. The wiki has many of Tom's formspring answers and stuff saved.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Looks like it. The wiki has many of Tom's formspring answers and stuff saved.

              >formspring
              All are now searchable in chrysoprax, e.g.: http://www.chrysoprax.org/gunnerkrigg/results?term=renard

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I don't even want to touch Cinemaphile with a stick. It's a constant reminder of how trash mass media is.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I do, I don't care that much for animated cartoons.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I care much more about cartoons than comics, but I don't care much for a lot of the people on this site.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when GKC was good, bros?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Up until the norn chapter.
      Good times.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can see people's points about Rey's body being destroyed being a big deal/not a big deal.
    Like, obviously it's something that'd be upsetting to Renard, but it's kind of hard to make it matter much to audience as, people have said he's been out of his body for the entirety of the story and it hasn't been much of a plotpoint about him wanting to return to it or anything.
    There's this disparity between what the characters are feeling and what the audience feels, that's a little jarring.

    It's kind of like a when a major character dies in a superhero comic dies, it's going to seem tragic to the characters in the story, but if you make a big deal of it in the story, the audience are just going to think, "big deal he'll be back in a year or two"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's fair, although some things really shouldn't require setting up. If a character's parents died, even though we've never seen them, like, say, if Parley's father died, it doesn't need to be established that she had a good relationship with him. In fact, in the case of Parley the only thing that has been implied has been a somewhat strained relationship between George and George sr.
      It would still be obviously terrible news to her and if it were to happen on a page and we would see her crying, hugging Smitty, then commenting on that "Why am I supposed to be sad about this? I don't get it!" would come off as pretty weird and silly and rightfully something to be made fun of.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Loo wanted to rebuke Rey's actions by making a show of unhingedness by cremating the empty body. He threw the metaphor, of him being a spirit with no body, because he got tricked. Obviously the cast has to show some horror to this, to make Loo feel less of a walking joke and more of a serious threat.
      In a way, Tom wants us to feel horror through Rey, but he couldn't just do it without killing him directly, maybe because he forgot Loo has Coyote's powers. He could easily capture Rey and absorb him, or make another spirit use Rey's body, or even take away Rey's power, since it belonged to him. There were many ways for Loo to make himself look more threatening but he only acted like a dumb teenager with god powers.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When did the shitposting really start? I've been in these threads pretty haphazardly for years, so I can't really keep track.
    IIRC it seemed to kick off with some autistic complaint about Jones in space, or there was that shitposter who made a big thing about Tom breaking the 180 rule or something.
    I know there was shitposting(I remember the really old Gunnershit Fail posts) but those were points where I recall it being consistent

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Before I even read your second line I was about to say "when Jones got sent into space". That anon that wouldn't let go of the fact that Jones couldn't possibly be upside-down in that gag panel and kept arguing about it for weeks, that's when all this shit really started.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure this is not what happened.

        I've always found this pretty weird, this has come up a couple of times and your guys' account of it really doesn't match up with my memory.

        I remember being the first one in these threads to comment on Jones entering orbit on an escape vector perpendicular to earth being impossible.
        I remember writing it as hyperbole, something silly like 'this ruins the comic' or whatever.
        I don't remember bringing it back up unless someone else would attack what I said.
        There were other people who kinda joined the bandwagon and there were people in the gunnerkrigg.com comments and/or twitter and/or the forums as well, since Tom felt he had to address the issue at the end of the chapter, but I don't think it ever got out of hand in a way that people wouldn't have been able to simply ignore the criticism.
        From the way I remember it, the side that was engaging with it far more aggressively and who kept bringing up the topic were the people who for some reason had an issue with the legitimate criticism that was brought up. It was falsifiable criticism, so the whole thing should have ended there. Either disprove or ignore. Raising a stink that people were discussing physics was the wrong thing to do, but that's what a lot of people did.
        THAT's how that went down, to my recollection.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          We had some really cool discussions with physics students in these threads and then every once in a while people would complain that we were discussing physics.
          It was honestly pretty annoying.
          If anyone drove people away it was those guys who didn't let people discuss aspects of the comic they cared about.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >If anyone drove people away it was those guys who didn't let people discuss aspects of the comic they cared about.
            That's actually my largest complaint about a lot of webcomic discussion here. People are applying their real-world or fiction-experience to discuss perhaps some errors in the comic's worldbuilding or character motivations and out of nowhere some buttholes come out of nowhere to brigade defend the comic as flawless. It's like they're allergic to expertise or even the curiosity from others wondering whether the thing that happened would make sense from a real-world or in-universe way. I remember trying to talk about how societies are organized in one webcomic thread and the vast majority of people were just namecalling and rooting for their team and shitting on the other team. Can't have discussion when all people are interested in is flagwaving and this is often exacerbated by avatarposting, which always comes from people who don't contribute but want the attention anyways from their avatar and one-liner praise/insult.

            It's like a cult and nobody can question the cult leader or the orthodoxy. I've seen it often enough in hobby groups or organizations some members treat the thing like a thing that cannot be criticized and all the newcomers who are well-balanced individuals, educated, or just outright smart see that it's a den of religiously-insane fervor and leave.

            I missed the Jones in Space event but from the sounds of it it obviously was exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about that gets so fricking toxic people leave.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Absolutely. Discussion is the entire point of these threads. If you don't wanna discuss a particular thing, just ignore the posts? Like, ... ???
              Yknow?
              It's crazy. People are getting weirder every day. Everyone's become tribal.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >and this is often exacerbated by avatarposting, which always comes from people who don't contribute but want the attention anyways from their avatar and one-liner praise/insult.
              tbh I've noticed this with that extreme sperg that says that every single page of the comic has something wrong with it. The guy posts the same handful of images every single thread like he only had 20 or so in his entire folder, it's nuts.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure you know what an avatar is

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                But I do. I'm an avatar of chaos, and this thread is my plaything. Gamers.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >webcomic discussion here
              The thing that actually baffles me is that this place is all there is for decent conversation. It's the only clubhouse for discussion on the entire fricking Internet where there's a tradition of conversation. And these people bring their tribal cult-like autism from real life or Twitter or Discord into these threads and now this clubhouse, the only fricking place for this shit, becomes a shithole like all the other places. Or maybe they've been here from the beginning and now they're in the majority having pushed away all the reasonable people.

              I even know it's unfair to call it "Twitter" because this cancer has existed long before Twitter existed. You can't even fricking blame it on the 2016 people because a) this has been a problem longer than that and b) why the frick would they care about this non-capeshit shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think that's just the general trend of how the internet landscape shifted over time. It's not any people in particular, but rather that's just how people in general tend to be now, I think.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I brought it up as a silly joke
          >It was a legitimate criticism though
          Anon...
          I think you have autism my friend...

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Read the thing.
            It was hyperbole.
            The criticism was valid, it just wasn't important.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The criticism wasn't valid because it was a gag panel.
              It's like criticizing the Avatar comics for that forklift joke when there's actual stuff in the meat of the comics to criticize that isn't a one-panel joke
              Eg: you have autism

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's a very strange definition of validity you seem to be using.
                Just because I am correct and you don't have an argument against it doesn't mean I have autism.
                Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that someone other than you might be right? Maybe you are the one who has autism?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Popeye punches Bluto into a stand that sells hotdogs
                >Write a huge complaint about how the amount of blood in Bluto's body couldn't possibly have enough iron to create the nails required to hold it together
                This is you anon. This is what is called a "gag". A "gag" is meant solely for the purpose of humor, if you will. It does not necessarily need to follow the laws of physics. This was a gag panel. A "gag" panel. A panel meant as a joke. A joke which does not need to follow the laws of physics. Because it's a joke.

                Do you understand, my dear anon?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't funny.
                What you described there sounds hilarious.
                That's the difference.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm starting to suspect that the reason you didn't remember the argument is because your autism causes this kind of shit so often that you don't realize it isn't normal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, I'm pretty sure I am remembering it right.
                If other people sperg out over my inane comments about orbital trajectories, how am I the autist in that?
                Or, if I am the autist in that, what are the others and why should I be more like them?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Even Tom called you a moron. Just admit you were wrong and drop it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Tom had a very reasonable response to it and I never said that the orbit thing was impossible in the comic, so I didn't say anything wrong.
                Loup can use god-magic.
                Duh.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >and I never said that the orbit thing was impossible in the comic, so I didn't say anything wrong.
                ...
                So you were arguing that it strictly wouldn't be possible in real life as portrayed in the comic?
                You're bullshitting me right now or so autistic that you've somehow surpassed my own autism, and I'm a level 10 autist.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If I remember correctly, what I, personally said (there were a bunch of others who also talked about it, like I said) was that since it's impossible to send one into orbit perpendicular to the ground, Loup must have held Jones in orbit actively, either by focussing or by having some kind of other power that could anchor her there somehow.
                Basically I was saying that that scene established something about what Loup is capable of doing.
                Imagine if on some future page a similar situation came up and Loup suddenly couldn't hold someone in place indefinitely. That would then be a plot hole. Still not likely a plot hole that would ever matter in this comic, but it would be a plot hole.
                If everyone had simply accepted that Jones was in orbit, then, if Loup isn't able to hold someone in place from afar in the future, then that wouldn't necessarily be recognized as a plot hole, which would of course be horrible and I can't stand for that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

                >COME ON, TOM!
                >I was chalking it up to artistic liberty last page, but now you're SHOWING a satellite.
                >Jones has STOPPED, she should be pulled back down if she's at the height of satellites, Tom!
                >This is like physics 101.
                This you?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that was one of mine.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ok like, I feel you. The panel itself really wasn't funny. That's valid criticism. There's a lot wrong with Gunnerkrigg Court nowadays, especially in regards to things like its pacing and art direction.
                Criticizing a joke panel for not following real world laws of physics is not valid criticism.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Same anon here.
                Okay, I think I see the issue.
                So, no, that's actually NOT valid criticism.
                You really need to look up the definition of the word 'valid'.
                This is what seems to be confusing you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The dictionary definition of valid requires a legal justification or otherwise suggests that something is logically correct. The legal definition obviously doesn't apply here, but the thing is that the logical definition doesn't either. Because it's a gag panel that's not bound to the rule of logic.

                You... don't understand.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Eg: you have autism
                I think that should be "i.e" not "e.g"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the gunnerkrigg.com comments and/or twitter
          >and/or twitter
          >twitter
          Get the FRICK out of these threads twitter homosexual. Fricking GAS YOURSELF. FRICK TWITTER. FRICK EVERYONE THAT USES TWITTER. GO TO HELL. EAT LEAD.

          I am very welcoming and polite, I simply do not like people from twitter. Please be patient, as I do in fact have autism ;-;

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think discussing problems with the comic is shitposting m8.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >when did the shitposting really start?
      April 6 2006

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you mean the specific shitposter that keeps using the same images and getting supremely asshurt when people don't agree with him, then when Jones got sent into space.
      If you mean consistent shitposting, there was an earlier period where some people got really mad at drawgays and intentionally chased them off. This is like shitposting stage 2.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >some people got really mad at drawgays
        why were they mad at them?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Some autism about the art and requests "distracting from comic discussion"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          To this day I don't know if it was one person samegayging or multiple people, but a vitriolic obsession with keeping the threads discussion-only to the point of harassing resident drawgays. They've long-since left and the threads are very open to drawgays now, if anything we wish there were more. That one mystery drawgay that did they Annie x Rey stuff was great.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            when were the drawgays driven away anyway?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Mid-2010s, on the earlier side. These threads used to have a shitload of oc before then.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I remember when these threads were about how much Kat wanted Eglamore to be inside her

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      All of those people were wrong. Kat was always a pure lesbian, she was just in denial.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kat is bi and confirmed bi, she was attracted to two boys before Paz made her realize that she wanted to smash that Spanish slit. Deal with it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The attraction to bird guy was also just her thinking that's what normal girls do. The whole event took place when she was like 11, maybe 12 tops. She had no idea what she was attracted to at that time. She just felt like an outsider and was self conscious about her tomboyishness and wanted to fit in, so she did what she thought girls ddo, fall in love with boys.
          It's a pretty obvious arc for her character and unless it is at some point established otherwise again I think my theory is the one that passes occam's razor for now, because it incorporates Kat's character growth on a meta-level.
          I am open to be proven wrong of course, I'm just saying that I think this is the most reasonable theory.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I thought they were mostly about Annie fricking Kat or taking the knot?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What I have learned from these threads is that everyone has autism.
    I have autism. You, the poster reading this, has autism. Everyone you argue with or against has autism.
    We are a big autistic happy family of autists.
    Autism is love, autism is life.
    God bless it, and God bless each of you lovely autists.
    May autism save us all.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >big autistic happy family
      >happy family
      >happy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I can get on board with that.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    imaa
    I was wrong
    I was so, so wrong
    Please come back. Your art isn't shit, it's great. I don't agree with a lot of the subject matter but frick me dude your art is great. Please come back. Please save us from this eternal autistic purgatory.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What if imaa IS the autist?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The only bad thing about him was the scat.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        imaa
        I was wrong
        I was so, so wrong
        Please come back. Your art isn't shit, it's great. I don't agree with a lot of the subject matter but frick me dude your art is great. Please come back. Please save us from this eternal autistic purgatory.

        Short game next month.
        and you can provide a prompt and cast your vote in a sorta community-commission thing, right now, for the low low price of two fiddy for one, five bucks for two different pictures and ten for three.
        Link in pic.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I would pay for a skullfricking of a dullahan Annie by a futa Kat, using also her feet to pleasure herself.
          Spoilered and saged because /d/ content.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's kinda weird, but there's a bunch of weirdoes in there, particularly people who are into foot stuff. I'd say give it a shot. Voting's almost ended, though. Voting is active till end of the month.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Telepaths and/or extreme data mining is... LE BAD!

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Zimmy killed two Annies
    Zimmy is a murderer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's not even shitposting, that's just correct.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's 100% correct.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      she should kill more annies

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Best boy gets merged into The Joker: Canine Edition
    >Most of the good supernatural shit goes away
    >Most of the comic is just brownish people having gay sex

    Sigh...

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1. Coyote can poop him a new body.
    2. He hasn't missed it before.
    3. He already changed the puppet's form so why not change it further.
    4. He'll feel better when he's knotting inside her.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >4.
      God could you imagine if Annie just offered herself to make him feel better?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Annie Rey will happen in time, don't worry.
        First, I want Annie Jerrek, though.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I interpreted Jerrek's crush on her as
          A) All spirits are attracted like moths to flamehead girl.
          B) In his android form, he begins to pretend so well he forgets himself, and act like a normal hormonal teenage boy.
          C) Wood-body fox was her friend.

          This whole Loup plotline's drawnout overlong for my tastes by this point. Is it just the Jackal messing around? Some elaborate plan to mess with the Committee?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Loup is sexually attracted to her as well as romantically. That has to come from somewhere. While Ysengrin's love for Annie seemed platonic on the surface, I think he was always romantically interested in Annie.

            Jerrek has a crush on her because that's his entire purpose of being. Loup is pretty much single-mindedly after Annie at this point. He's obsessed with her. He created Jerrek so he could get closer to her, so of course Jerrek is also into her.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God, I don't care what happens but don't let Jerrek split from Loup before he gets the knife, let them both die.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kys butthole

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Jerrek

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    By the end of this comic, someone WILL inevitably knot Annie
    Even if it's just implied through her holding hands (or paws) with someone
    The reaction to that's going to be so insane, I can't wait

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >make a joke expecting outrage
      >readers are into it
      I was happily unaware of the furry community's overlap with this comic's readership.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I
        T-tom?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          uWu

          It's more that we're all degenerates that get off on the idea of Annie being so horny that she'd do it with a dog if it even remotely passed the Harkness Test.

          >Harkness Test

          you wanted to explain what it was so go ahead.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's not exactly obscure anymore, it's just "Does the non-human thing talk good enough to express consent?" Basically if you ask a dog if it wants to frick you and it goes "woof", it's a fricking dog, but if it goes "yes I do wish to engage in sexual relations with you" then it passes and you can frick it.

            Rey passes the Harkness Test, My Dog Spot does not.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              Gotchu covered senpai

              eww gross.

              Here's kinda the reverse: James Cameron, when concept artists were iterating the Navi design for Avatar, started with a blue human, had the artist make each version more alien, while checking with his friends
              >would you hit it?
              until she looked too inhuman to tap. They then went back to the most-alien-yet-still-attractive design.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't believe a single person on this planet would say they wouldn't tap a na'vi.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's not exactly obscure anymore, it's just "Does the non-human thing talk good enough to express consent?" Basically if you ask a dog if it wants to frick you and it goes "woof", it's a fricking dog, but if it goes "yes I do wish to engage in sexual relations with you" then it passes and you can frick it.

            Rey passes the Harkness Test, My Dog Spot does not.

            Gotchu covered senpai

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Tom if it really is you then post some of your private smut that you've drawn right now! We all know that you're hiding it

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              here's a rejected comic idea for Annie's mom and Renard.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's more that we're all degenerates that get off on the idea of Annie being so horny that she'd do it with a dog if it even remotely passed the Harkness Test.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm appreciating all the cute panels of Annie hugging Rey. Needs a collage.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn't Loup, Coyote, or anyone with similar powers just get Renard's body back no problem? I mean that's still not an easy solution but at least it means it's possible.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Coyote is dead.
      Loup is the one who just destroyed it.
      Yes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Coyote is dead.
        He's been dead before.

        >Loup is the one who just destroyed it.
        I never said it would be easy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no, they aren't that sort of deities.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also, this. They could probably only make a fake Rey, but the extent of their powers is extremely murky. I hold on staunchly to the theory that all they've ever done is actually just very well disguised fakery.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Court and Forest Annie were the best part of this comic, change my mind.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The best part recently - sure, but there’s been better parts earlier on, when we just didn’t know as much and that made things better.
      The chapter where Coyote and Ysengrin are first properly introduced at their audience at the court was probably my favourite

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I meant more conceptually, but sure.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I meant more conceptually, but sure.

      Conceptually agreed, I wish they got fleshed out a bit more. It was interesting how they had just slightly different personalities that made them clash, and seeing them sync up only to de-sync from time to time was a lot of fun. I hate that their last appearance was so rushed and, if the rumor's to be believed, because Tom couldn't figure out how to work them into the ending. He could have at least given them a better resolution over a couple of chapters instead of just smashing them together in a few pages.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Watch it turn out that Kat got abducted or Angel'd while this shit was happening, and once again Tom will pull the "REALLY COOL SHIT IS HAPPENING YOU JUST DIDN'T SEE IT GUYS" act again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It might actually help if it happens offscreen since it's been foreshadowed that Kat may go voluntarily.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How do you think Jerrek's identity will be uncovered?
    Do you think the robots-turned-pseudo human have serial numbers or some log keeps track of who/what they are, and eventually someone'll look into them all and find that key information about Jerrek is missing?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kat wouldn't put serial numbers on them, that goes against the entire point of making them human.
      My prediction:
      Either
      A) Jerrek will live happily with Annie for several months until Annie simply realizes how often he keeps gaslighting her and being an abusive piece of crud, so Annie simply breaks up with him which causes him to sperg out and reveal he's Loup that way
      or
      B) Jerrek and Annie are happy together and eventually Jerrek feels so comfortable around her that he reveals his greatest secret on his own, thinking that he can trust her to stay with him regardless.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kind of amazing how active some of the old threads are

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *were
      Frick. Forgot my link too!
      https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/49847995/

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      At the peak this comic would sometimes have multiple active threads going at once of the development was big enough. I think that Cinemaphile in general just doesnt cate much for webcomic anymore, even the most active threads don't get much compared to the early 10s

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest shitstorm was KatxPaz chapters. The meltdown was board-wide. Fun times.

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