The 90s were the worst time to be a manchild or geek because would-be psychopath Gen Xers were fully entrenched in their "haha cynicism is epic I love hating harmless things that other people enjoy" phase. Simpsons was probably the first cartoon to be open about how much it hated people for irrational reasons..
I thought the problem with Zoomers is that they don't believe in being honest about enjoying something and have to be ironic about everything because apparently being genuine or having strong convictions makes you pathetic
I thought the problem with Zoomers is that they don't believe in being honest about enjoying something and have to be ironic about everything because apparently being genuine or having strong convictions makes you pathetic
The problem with zoomers is simultaneously both that they're sentitive snowflakes who can't stand getting their feefees hurt... but also somehow that they're all ironic and cynical, being incapable of true sincerity.
What this says to me is that bitter millenials see zoomers being openly happy, bully them for it, then after zoomers withdraw into themselves they blame zooomers for not being open and sincere enough.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/%22%3EHahaha%20it%E2%80%99s%20funny%20because%22/type/op/start/2022-07-22/
Why are morons obsessed with remaking the same garbage threads over and over again
Barney was easily one of the most popular kids' shows of its time, raking in millions in revenue, and selling out live shows across the country.
When it first came out, there wasn't as much competition in the preschool market besides Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers, allowing Barney to gain a foothold in its demographic.
Part of the reason was that unlike the boomer-approved Sesame Street which could appeal to both adults and children, Barney appealed to kids only, a deliberate choice made to help fully capture the child's attention.
They did this by using elements that appealed to them, such as simplified dialogue, repetition, unbridled happiness, little to no conflict, multiple songs per episode, and easily memorizable episode structures.
This in turn made the show very popular among its target demographic of 3-year-olds, but also very unpopular among parents and adults.
Parents who had to endure numerous episodes through their children generally couldn't stand how simplistic and saccharine it was, and them being exposed to this show repeatedly, through them or other means like ads, instore displays, etc. found themselves annoyed and irritated by his seeming omnipotence.
Media criticism of course wasn't as evolved as it is nowadays, so most contemporary critiques just revolved around Barney simply being too dumb and banal to a demographic that it was never meant to appeal to in the first place.
Naturally, the backlash was so intense that there were tons of parodies in shows mocking the show's simplicity.
It even went as far as adults mailing death threats to the cast and crew. The guy who wrote the I Love You song had to take his number out of the phone book, it was that bad.
Nowadays, the show almost seems quaint in the wake of stuff like Cocomelon, Elsagate, Caillou, etc., but in the 90s when preschool market wasn't as developed, it was a different story.
Check out pic related, it's a Peawiener documentary that dives into the Barney hatred phenomenon.
youre missing an important factor: the origin of barney
barney was created by a mom who made a program explicitly for her son that HE would like. it was never properly betatested with other kids. many other kids had a viscerally negative reaction to to the show.
everyone liked sesame street. everyone liked mr. rogers. but only some kids gravitated towards barney, and everyone over the age of 4 had zero patience for it, because it was obvious even to a child's mind that it was incredibly condescending and awful once a few of your braincells had congealed to form a coherent thought.
>Everyone liked Sesame Street
No they didn't. Literally every edgy tween thought maiming puppets was the funniest shit. >Everyone liked Mr. Rogers
I'm pretty sure there was a point where everyone thought he was a pedophile.
Fred Rogers is not a pedo, if anything his life was extremally documented to the point that it rivaled major AAA Hollywood celebrities.
Theres even a major huge budgeted AAA movie about his life (Will You Be My Neighbor?).
Well, all the big celebs and media outfits keep harping about how "he's such a nice guy" and "he's so wholesome" He's probably not Jimmy Saville, but all the insistence that he's the nicest guy ever gets kind of annoying, and a bit suspicious...
If the only response you can muster up is "lol you're autistic" then you have no response against the perceived celebrity culture surrounding Mr. Rogers. Remember how the British media harped up Jimmy Saville up as this paragon before his death? There's basis to this analyses of Fred Roger's worship
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Fred Rogers is nothing like Jimmy Saville, Fred is legit.
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Because the media keeps insisting that he is
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No, Fred is legit.
You just hate him because he's white, so please frick off, the grown ups are talking.
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>You just hate him because he's white
incorrect, Black celebrities people harp about his wholesomeness too, the Hollywood system already contains figures like the African-Americans Will Smith and Morgan Freeman and israeli people like Jerry Lewis and Woody Allen, so arguing with the race card is irrelevant
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>Hate him because he's white
Wasn't one of his early big claims to fame that kids of all races were on the show?
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>wtf there's a celebrity that isn't a pedophile? That's not possible
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Someone's dark secret doesn't have to be pedophilia, it could be theft, murder, indoctrination into a cult. There are many reasons a person would want to influence impressionable children
>Sesame Street
so some 13 year olds thought they where to cool for it, so what? you can say that about anything good. and you can make fun of something with out disliking it. >Mr. Rogers
every adult who is good with kids has had that thought about them. parents are naturally very protective and most people are shit with kids so when someone isnt it stands out. Rogers was a saint.
>Media criticism of course wasn't as evolved as it is nowadays
What does this even mean? Is this like poptimist trash where we're just supposed to accept everything as is and treat it as legitimate a form of X or Y as something else?
Because the creator wouldn't sell Barney to Disney, and Disney told him "Disney can help Barney, or it can hurt Barney," and began a campaign across their media empire to sink the dinosaur's popularity.
I remember first learning about Barney via some TV commercial selling its VHS tapes, before I even knew it was a PBS show. I was probably 12 so it was the exact stuff I was trying to distance myself from.
also, at the end of the commercial, "I LOVE YOU, YOU LOVE ME"... and the VO of the little kid saying "I love you, Barney"... I was a dumb pre-teen myself but the manipulation was pretty bald-faced, and they stole the melody from "This Old Man" so that song was ruined. it hit a lot of nerves.
I was online back then on BBSes and me and all the other 12-year-olds with 300 baud modems immediately united in the war against Barney long before Simpsons or Animaniacs could crank out their own animated take on it.
is full of shit. OP's example is Fox pre-acquisition, mine is WB/Fox Kids. and Disney had no standing to criticize any show for being too saccharine.
>before I even knew it was a PBS show
It was direct-to-video before it came to PBS. Some employee working for Connecticut Public Television saw the tapes and thought that it would be fit for broadcast nationwide.
Barney was massive in the early to mid 90s. And it epitomized what a lot of people hate about children's shows because it talked in a way that condescended the viewers.
Because it was uncool to like a show aimed at four year olds? I clearly remember mocking Teletubbies when it was airing in the 2000s and gagging seeing British children eating soft boiled eggs on the live action segments.
It seems odd to like thing aimed at four year olds these days, but it seems to be acceptable to make preschool thing and turn them badass like the live Dora movie. Here's my attempt at taking the ultimate comic book cover challenge awhile back. R8 & H8
I remember a dumb, terribly animated webseries on youtube where the main antagonist was literally Barney but evil.
Can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but I remember the creator deleting all of their shit at one point.
Makes me sad, some times I want to go back and watch some of the old cringe-kino from when I was younger.
barney hate is/was such a phenomenon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Barney_humor
was there anything else really like the massive push back from young kids to full grown adults barney got? only thing that reminds me of it would be bieber hate from the 2000's
>Mind you before all the 5 little Hitlers jumping on the couch and other garbage on Youtube.
Thank god kids were smart enough to watch Game Sack and LGR instead.
Many parents hate Daniel tiger because every episode Daniel throws a fit, and his mom sings a song about it
It’s not nearly as bad as caillou, but not as good as bluey where the child characters can actually face consequences sometimes (like the episode where bluey ditches bingo and has to apologize to her)
the 90s were kinda weird, Barney had some kind of cult behind it, specifically very noisy moms who used it as reference for what animated shows should be like, and by noisy I mean they wrote letters and did protests in front of animation studios. there's even a story about them harassing Groening in a parking lot once, and later he started to mock them in the early years of the simpsons
Because a lot of parents and/or siblings were forced to watch it when looking after their kids/siblings and it was seen as the epitome of vapid, insipid stuff aimed at children. Notice that stuff like Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers never got the same hatred.
Because people who enjoy things like Barney, Ponyshit, and other childish, autistic garbage deserve to be shamed. The 90s knew that unrestrained autism could lead to the coddle culture we have today. We failed for not mocking these people enough.
The 90s were the worst time to be a manchild or geek because would-be psychopath Gen Xers were fully entrenched in their "haha cynicism is epic I love hating harmless things that other people enjoy" phase. Simpsons was probably the first cartoon to be open about how much it hated people for irrational reasons..
The irony now being is "You have to enjoy all and everything" that is going on now.
I thought the problem with Zoomers is that they don't believe in being honest about enjoying something and have to be ironic about everything because apparently being genuine or having strong convictions makes you pathetic
That's a millenial issue
The problem with zoomers is simultaneously both that they're sentitive snowflakes who can't stand getting their feefees hurt... but also somehow that they're all ironic and cynical, being incapable of true sincerity.
What this says to me is that bitter millenials see zoomers being openly happy, bully them for it, then after zoomers withdraw into themselves they blame zooomers for not being open and sincere enough.
Oh goodie, choose between two radical extremes, no middlepoint!
If you want to be a neutralgay, just kill both sides.
Nah that's just being a smuggay nihilist
>no you don't get it, it is about the power of human spirit overcoming outside interference
Children who watched Barney grew up with mental disorders.
only one Canadian
Ug. Talk about damned if you do damned if you don't.
>Why were a lot of 90s cartoons obsessed with mocking Barney so much?
Because Barney was big in the 90's.
>Why is le [Popular thing] being mocked
No shit sherlock, anything popular would bound to get mocked.
You deserve to fricking die
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/%22%3EHahaha%20it%E2%80%99s%20funny%20because%22/type/op/start/2022-07-22/
Why are morons obsessed with remaking the same garbage threads over and over again
because they're underage
>/pol/
>trolls
>third worlders
>mentally ill people
Take your pick.
Why were a lot of 90s cartoons obsessed with mocking Sonic so much?
He's not really Sonic.
Barney was easily one of the most popular kids' shows of its time, raking in millions in revenue, and selling out live shows across the country.
When it first came out, there wasn't as much competition in the preschool market besides Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers, allowing Barney to gain a foothold in its demographic.
Part of the reason was that unlike the boomer-approved Sesame Street which could appeal to both adults and children, Barney appealed to kids only, a deliberate choice made to help fully capture the child's attention.
They did this by using elements that appealed to them, such as simplified dialogue, repetition, unbridled happiness, little to no conflict, multiple songs per episode, and easily memorizable episode structures.
This in turn made the show very popular among its target demographic of 3-year-olds, but also very unpopular among parents and adults.
Parents who had to endure numerous episodes through their children generally couldn't stand how simplistic and saccharine it was, and them being exposed to this show repeatedly, through them or other means like ads, instore displays, etc. found themselves annoyed and irritated by his seeming omnipotence.
Media criticism of course wasn't as evolved as it is nowadays, so most contemporary critiques just revolved around Barney simply being too dumb and banal to a demographic that it was never meant to appeal to in the first place.
Naturally, the backlash was so intense that there were tons of parodies in shows mocking the show's simplicity.
It even went as far as adults mailing death threats to the cast and crew. The guy who wrote the I Love You song had to take his number out of the phone book, it was that bad.
Nowadays, the show almost seems quaint in the wake of stuff like Cocomelon, Elsagate, Caillou, etc., but in the 90s when preschool market wasn't as developed, it was a different story.
Check out pic related, it's a Peawiener documentary that dives into the Barney hatred phenomenon.
This just proves to me that a majority of the population is mentally ill but can tend to control their urges.
>This just proves to me that a majority of the population is mentally ill but can tend to control their urges
Which they can BARELY do
youre missing an important factor: the origin of barney
barney was created by a mom who made a program explicitly for her son that HE would like. it was never properly betatested with other kids. many other kids had a viscerally negative reaction to to the show.
everyone liked sesame street. everyone liked mr. rogers. but only some kids gravitated towards barney, and everyone over the age of 4 had zero patience for it, because it was obvious even to a child's mind that it was incredibly condescending and awful once a few of your braincells had congealed to form a coherent thought.
>Everyone liked Sesame Street
No they didn't. Literally every edgy tween thought maiming puppets was the funniest shit.
>Everyone liked Mr. Rogers
I'm pretty sure there was a point where everyone thought he was a pedophile.
>Literally every edgy tween thought maiming puppets was the funniest shit.
It still is
Fred Rogers is not a pedo, if anything his life was extremally documented to the point that it rivaled major AAA Hollywood celebrities.
Theres even a major huge budgeted AAA movie about his life (Will You Be My Neighbor?).
Well, all the big celebs and media outfits keep harping about how "he's such a nice guy" and "he's so wholesome" He's probably not Jimmy Saville, but all the insistence that he's the nicest guy ever gets kind of annoying, and a bit suspicious...
I think you're just autistic.
If the only response you can muster up is "lol you're autistic" then you have no response against the perceived celebrity culture surrounding Mr. Rogers. Remember how the British media harped up Jimmy Saville up as this paragon before his death? There's basis to this analyses of Fred Roger's worship
Fred Rogers is nothing like Jimmy Saville, Fred is legit.
Because the media keeps insisting that he is
No, Fred is legit.
You just hate him because he's white, so please frick off, the grown ups are talking.
>You just hate him because he's white
incorrect, Black celebrities people harp about his wholesomeness too, the Hollywood system already contains figures like the African-Americans Will Smith and Morgan Freeman and israeli people like Jerry Lewis and Woody Allen, so arguing with the race card is irrelevant
>Hate him because he's white
Wasn't one of his early big claims to fame that kids of all races were on the show?
>wtf there's a celebrity that isn't a pedophile? That's not possible
Someone's dark secret doesn't have to be pedophilia, it could be theft, murder, indoctrination into a cult. There are many reasons a person would want to influence impressionable children
>Sesame Street
so some 13 year olds thought they where to cool for it, so what? you can say that about anything good. and you can make fun of something with out disliking it.
>Mr. Rogers
every adult who is good with kids has had that thought about them. parents are naturally very protective and most people are shit with kids so when someone isnt it stands out. Rogers was a saint.
You need to lay off the family guy once in a while
>Media criticism of course wasn't as evolved as it is nowadays
lol
Mega for this?
I second that, I want to watch something interesting today. and this seems interesting enough.
Found it on archive.org
https://archive.org/details/i-love-you-you-hate-me-2022-peawiener-720p-ddp5.1
Thanks.
>Media criticism of course wasn't as evolved as it is nowadays
What does this even mean? Is this like poptimist trash where we're just supposed to accept everything as is and treat it as legitimate a form of X or Y as something else?
It's shit
No, it's not, it has subliminal mysticism behind it, that's why you can't understand it, you don't have an open mind.
You are a thread misser, shush.
thats not even the real barneygay.
Because the creator wouldn't sell Barney to Disney, and Disney told him "Disney can help Barney, or it can hurt Barney," and began a campaign across their media empire to sink the dinosaur's popularity.
Source
I remember first learning about Barney via some TV commercial selling its VHS tapes, before I even knew it was a PBS show. I was probably 12 so it was the exact stuff I was trying to distance myself from.
also, at the end of the commercial, "I LOVE YOU, YOU LOVE ME"... and the VO of the little kid saying "I love you, Barney"... I was a dumb pre-teen myself but the manipulation was pretty bald-faced, and they stole the melody from "This Old Man" so that song was ruined. it hit a lot of nerves.
I was online back then on BBSes and me and all the other 12-year-olds with 300 baud modems immediately united in the war against Barney long before Simpsons or Animaniacs could crank out their own animated take on it.
is full of shit. OP's example is Fox pre-acquisition, mine is WB/Fox Kids. and Disney had no standing to criticize any show for being too saccharine.
>before I even knew it was a PBS show
It was direct-to-video before it came to PBS. Some employee working for Connecticut Public Television saw the tapes and thought that it would be fit for broadcast nationwide.
that man should be hanged.
Barney was massive in the early to mid 90s. And it epitomized what a lot of people hate about children's shows because it talked in a way that condescended the viewers.
Because Barney is fricking and, in the 90's and early aughts, unavoidable.
Barney bunch thread?
Because Barney was everywhere, in everything. Even terorrists held in Gitmo were listening to Barney
Because it was uncool to like a show aimed at four year olds? I clearly remember mocking Teletubbies when it was airing in the 2000s and gagging seeing British children eating soft boiled eggs on the live action segments.
It seems odd to like thing aimed at four year olds these days, but it seems to be acceptable to make preschool thing and turn them badass like the live Dora movie.
Here's my attempt at taking the ultimate comic book cover challenge awhile back. R8 & H8
Because libs thought it was military propaganda
lets not forget one of the best barney parodies/hate pieces of the time. to me, this is as good as a barney parody can truly be.
Even Sesame Street openly mocked Barney wherever they could.
Which was deserved, Sesame Street at least taught things, Barney was for stupid kids who didn't want to learn
I remember a dumb, terribly animated webseries on youtube where the main antagonist was literally Barney but evil.
Can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but I remember the creator deleting all of their shit at one point.
Makes me sad, some times I want to go back and watch some of the old cringe-kino from when I was younger.
barney hate is/was such a phenomenon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Barney_humor
was there anything else really like the massive push back from young kids to full grown adults barney got? only thing that reminds me of it would be bieber hate from the 2000's
Because This and Teletubbies were seen as absolutly braindead shows less entertaining and more "something to get your toddler to shut up for a bit".
Mind you before all the 5 little hitlers jumping on the couch and other garbage on youtube.
>Mind you before all the 5 little Hitlers jumping on the couch and other garbage on Youtube.
Thank god kids were smart enough to watch Game Sack and LGR instead.
>Why were a lot of 90s cartoons obsessed with mocking Barney so much?
Because it was a bad show, it was low brow even for children's programming
It also explains why Beast Wars Megatron is a T-Rex: He's not designed to be cuddly, he's designed to hunt. To conquer. To kill
The writers of such shows were also parents and found the show annoying but they had to watch it since thier kids were.
thats basically it, all barney hate parodies come from people who simply couldnt take to endure seeing barney daily with their kids.
Yup- same happened with Caillou. I remember everyone wanted that little shit dead of cancer
Nowadays the target of choice for frustrated parents is Daniel Tiger
I thought it was Peppa Pig. Daniel Tiger seems to be okay with most since it's spun off of Mr. Rogers.
You’re right- peppa pig is more hated
Many parents hate Daniel tiger because every episode Daniel throws a fit, and his mom sings a song about it
It’s not nearly as bad as caillou, but not as good as bluey where the child characters can actually face consequences sometimes (like the episode where bluey ditches bingo and has to apologize to her)
the 90s were kinda weird, Barney had some kind of cult behind it, specifically very noisy moms who used it as reference for what animated shows should be like, and by noisy I mean they wrote letters and did protests in front of animation studios. there's even a story about them harassing Groening in a parking lot once, and later he started to mock them in the early years of the simpsons
Because a lot of parents and/or siblings were forced to watch it when looking after their kids/siblings and it was seen as the epitome of vapid, insipid stuff aimed at children. Notice that stuff like Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers never got the same hatred.
Are you really going to spam this 445807599 times today again? What a loser.
I want you dead
Because people who enjoy things like Barney, Ponyshit, and other childish, autistic garbage deserve to be shamed. The 90s knew that unrestrained autism could lead to the coddle culture we have today. We failed for not mocking these people enough.