Halloween II is better than the first movie
>better score
>better ending
>better kills
>better mask (aged mask with nicotine stains unironically looks cooler than how it did in the 78 film)
>pleasance is utilized more automatically making the movie better than it should be
>actually closes out the story unlike the original and the billions of sequels
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I agree.
we do have a horror general though.
This deserves its own thread
>Halloween (1978) is about Michael Myers
>Halloween 2 set up Ben Tramer who is secretly part of the Cult of Thorn; Michael is Laurie's sibling but everyone agrees it would be a scandal if it gets out so people are paid off to shut up about it and records are illegally destroyed.
>After "The Night He Came Home," in Haddonfield, John Carpenter made two movies based on the event into Halloween 1 and 2 (this is shown In Halloween 3), so people think Michael is related to Laurie. Laurie and her family deny it.
>Halloween 3 happens but happens elsewhere, but Silver Shamrock masks make it to Haddonfield.
>The "Michael" in Halloween 4-6 is Ben Tramer and not Michael. Jamie Lloyd isn't really related to the Lloyds or Michael, but to Ben Tramer instead. Jamie and Ben's son is born in Halloween 6, Jamie is killed, and her son and is taken by the Cult to be given to another family to raise.
>The Michael in Halloween H20 to Resurrection is a failed clone of Mike Myers created by Dr. Evil and his henchmen (during the events of the first Austin Powers film). This clone thinks he's Michael Myers because he has the same name.
>Laurie in H20/Resurrection is really a woman named Keri Tate who is constantly pretending to be Jamie Lee Curtis characters; that month she's pretending she's what an older Laurie Strode would be like, which brings her to H20-Mike's attention.
>After Halloween Resurrection, H20-Mike fights Pinhead, who wins and forces him to join the new show, "Big Horror Movie Brother" (see the Robot Chicken sketch to see how that turned out).
>The Michael Myers in Rob Zombie's Halloween is Ben Tramer and Jamie Lloyd's son. They faked his birth records, and his unusual age/size comes from how his parents were related and also supernatural shit from the Cult was involved (they gave him to another family that had the surname Myers).
>Everyone who died in the movies before Halloween 2018 but is shown alive is actually part of the Cult of Thorn.
>Michael Myers escaped from prison in 2018, causing Ben Tramer to reawaken after hearing the news, both are killing people in Haddonfield but everyone thinks it's one person.
Generals are always shit and shouldn't be allowed.
Cool stay out of our general
Horror general is based. Best threads of the year.
zombie's duology mogs the rest
This kills the 2shill. Not even the creators like your movie.
> I think Halloween II is an abomination and a horrible movie. I was really disappointed in it. The director has gone on and done some other films and I think his career is launched now. But I don’t think he had a feel for the material. I think that’s the problem, he didn’t have a feeling for what was going on.
Doesn't capenter also say whenever he watches the original he cringes cause of how much he did wrong?
Anyway I don't care what carpenter thinks of H2
It wasn't his movie just like zombies films weren't his
yet the new trilogy refuses to kill her. Shes still the focus of the movie.
Cope and seethe.
Also carpenter could give a frick about any of it. All he wants to do is rock out, collect royalty checks and watch basketball.
No shit, but it still tops 4-6 and on. That’s how bad they are. A drunken master phoning it in still beats them.
It’s Time, Michael
I watched the first film last night, really good but I though the dialogue sounded a bit choppy and unnatural at times. Is it jsut me or was Jaimie Lee Curtis really fricking pretty back in the day?
Her voice is very manly but she was attractive
Jamie is a man
she looks horrible in this film because of the wig. But she had a big rack.
The blonde nurse mogs her.
Yes
she was a first-rate butterface.
rather plain face (especially by Hollywood standards) but a great body
>>>>>>
it's just you Black person
Halloween autists are delusional with how they pretend the first two movies are on some unreachable level of quality compared to the later sequels
There is no comparison.
There is a giant gaping gap in the quality of the first films in terms of production quality, prop quality, music, and overall vision.
Acting - not so much, but the physical actors for Michael start and stop with Dick Warlock. He was the best and always will be.
And there is literally nothing you can say otherwise zoomer.
4-6 are TV trash. Churned out for a quick buck and trying to ape FT13th.
All the rest after it are garbage - including the new ones.
>4-6 are TV trash. Churned out for a quick buck and trying to ape FT13th.
Correct except H2 tried to as well. Works well though
>4-6 are TV trash
You are full of God damn shit.
4 is fricking fantastic & has zero flaws aside from the mask.
PROS
> Great moody opening credits surveying farm equipment adorned with Halloween decorations.
> Solid score.
> The film certainty has a different feel from the original 2 films but is still very suspenseful & atmospheric in it's own way (and is still dead serious in tone)
> Like 2 the film does a decent job of fleshing out Haddonfield as a real town with culture & history.
> Donald as always is great.
> Harris as Jamie remains among the best performances from a child actor I have encountered in a horror film.
> Rachel is a solid final girl.
> Sheriff Meeker (beau starr) I have always thought to be cool, his professional & trusting interaction with Loomis is more enjoyable then the more strained back & forth between Brackett & Loomis in 1/2. We get a faint hint of laziness/denial on his part with him initially trying to blow Loomis off but once he takes things seriously he goes into war mode like a boss.
> I liked that they wrote both Loomis & Myers as having learned from the events of 78, what with Loomis not hesitating to demand a town wide curfew which he resisted doing in 78 and Myers taking out both the Police & Power stations early on & letting officer Logan take him directly to his targets.
> Build up to & reveal of the police station massacre is chilling as well as the triple Michael sequence.
> This is easily the most powerful we have ever seen Myers on film.
> Entire ending from the battle atop the truck to the shootdown, to the twist is epic as hell.
CONS
> Worst mask of the series.
>>4 has a bad twist ending
You are beyond delusional. The ending was haunting & beautiful.
Agreed except for this...
>Significantly deepens the Halloween lore and adds supernatural elements
Myers was ALWAYS supernatural.
Yes
>what's wrong with le twist endings
4s is dumb. Jamie isn't a killer, no one wants to see a 5 year old become a serial killer. It's not believable
5s is stupid because it's like they wrote themselves into a corner and the man in black is only in the movie cause some dude was walking around on set dressed like him
Trash
>4s is dumb. Jamie isn't a killer, no one wants to see a 5 year old become a serial killer
She doesn't need to be a killer. Just have that "possible serial killer" situation in the background that makes every choice around here serious in order to avoid another Micheal Myers
>5s is stupid because it's like they wrote themselves into a corner and the man in black is only in the movie cause some dude was walking around on set dressed like him
Nah there was plenty to do with that storyline. This being part of the reason why 6 is so frustrating to watch as it literally did nothing right stroy-wise.
>4 has a bad twist ending and terrible mask
>5 has an even worse twist ending and has mind powers on top of it
>6 Michael now has a child and/or is a result of some cults powers
And that's just the first few
What was wrong with 4&5’s twist endings, Redditboy?
For me, it’s Busta Rhymes decapitating Michael then saying “trick or treat motherfricker”
No, I pretend Halloween III is at a level of unreachable quality compared to the rest of the series.
true reddit right here.
terrible movie that failed for a reason.
h3 gays are worse than zombie gays.
Zombie gays and H3 gays are based.
Both tried to do something besides mind powers and "look we brought Jamie Lee curtis back"
when nothing should be done at all.
>Her dur lets make a movie about evil masks with no real plot and a 60 year old man in a leisure suit
>her dur lets make Michael just like Jason the professional wrestler because we don't understand basic concepts
trash
>basic concepts
>2018: hurr durr let's mash h20 with the original
>kills: hurr durr let's mash 2 with 4
Literally alls it took was bringing Jamie Lee back and h1 gays have wet themselves
>Let’s le different so it’s le good
Zombie clearly never watched Halloween. He probably just read a Wiki on it and missed the entire point of the movie.
>everything I don't like is reddit
Suck my dick homosexual, Season of the Witch is kino.
No, it isn't. Its a bad film with absolutely nothing going for it. Bad acting. Bad story. Shitty meandering plot. Etc.
Only homosexuals like this film. You should go see Bros.
>the first two movies are on some unreachable level of quality compared to the later sequels
They are
I don't like either particularly much, I've never understood the hype.
t. 31yo boomer
That's how I feel about the original. Maybe I like the second one cause it gets less love but is the better film? I don't know. Halloween is probably the most average slasher franchise ever. Not amazing, but not bad
No it was terrible. Completely lost the atmosphere of the first movie, the new shape actor is smaller and girly looking, just a bunch of rote deaths and nonsense and then it's over.
For me, it’s Halloween 4
>Kino acting all around
>Keeps the original vibe of the first 2
>Great soundtrack
>Epic intro
>Existence refutes the 1/2/3 fanboys that claim Halloween can’t be a franchise
>Chase scenes BTFO pretty much all other Slasher chase scenes
>Goes into a more action packed direction than the other 3
>Significantly deepens the Halloween lore and adds supernatural elements without jumping the shark like 5&6 did
>Has Easter eggs of the original without going over the top
Minor downsides:
>Killing off Laurie Strode off screen was silly. She could’ve just disappeared like Jamie’s father did
>Bad Mask
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4 is the only good Thorn movie.
I like the comfy feels and the mob (which was done right unlike kills)
She grew up to be sexy
Can someone answer how Michael never die despite being shot at multiple shots, falling down a second floor, being burned, etc?
It's moronic. It makes no sense
He's like wolverine because " evil incarnate"
He was a regular boy but then he became evil personified.
He's the grim reaper. He doesn't need to eat or sleep
He's Deadpool. Wolverine. Evil made him regenerate
Michael is the reincarnation of a Celtic incel type who was killed at a harvest festival after murdering a woman who rejected him. Something to do with Samhaim in Ireland
WHAT
This is the explanation for Michael in the movie novelizations I dont know if it's really connected to the movies unless you count the [plot of Halloween 3 which also has an Irish and Druid theme
Depends on the series
>1, 2, H20, Resurrection:Unexplained he’s just very evil or something
>4-5:Unexplained, but probably has something to do with his family psychic powers
>6:He’s controlled by a culture of evil people
>Rob zombie 1:No idea, probably has something to do with his wrecked childhood
>Rob zombie 2:Unexplained, but his family is supernatural now so probably that
>18 and Kills:He’s the embodiment of evil
My favorite is resurrection because its the most comfy and the only one that is meta like scream and I love how Busta rhymes makes fun of Michael
I have a lot of enjoyment
>My favorite is resurrection because its the most comfy
I actually agree. It's like urban legend Halloween and it tried to move beyond Jamie Lee curtis
YES
I love the spooky house full of fake spooky things. I loved that their stuff is being broadcast online. I love that it shows a tv show trying to capitalize on Michael
And the girls are very pretty in it. I love the blonde
Is the third one worth watching?
Yes. It's not Michael Meyers but it's a decent b horror movie
ty anon
it's pretty fun, I'd recommend
Hell fricking no
It's great
Halloween Kills is the best Halloween movie. Frick you homosexuals dont @ me
its the worst one
Its a Halloween movie for people that hate Halloween and hate being scared.
I don't think it is better than the first movie, but it is the best Halloween sequel by a country mile and very good, and I am tired of pretending its not.