i think op was trying to be ironic, either way here are the spoilers: >"spartan" IIIs spawning out of nowhere like literal npcs to get mowed down and replaced by respawning spartans >fleet battle is 2 seconds of blurry cgi >again we have forgotten what tactics are >pajeetgosky uses her telepathy to talk to chief through the discord mute function >cumquat and penguin plot entirely irrelevant >ackerson redemption arc >flood on onyx, literally nobody cares or raises the alarm >flood on onyx >crushedtana >punching a panel with hulk strength lets master queef control a ship and fix crushedtana >halsey flooded >halo infinite grappleshot fight >arbiter wins but then decides to commit assisted seppuku >I AM A SEMEN DEMON >guilty spark debrief >broken helmet with open visor
BONUS ROUND: >christian prayers >talking to your ancestors who art in heaven >barely hidden angel and demon analogy >please christian youths buy more microsoft products we are good americans
i know we like to be contrarian up in here but i can say without a doubt that this show is still one of the worst series i've ever seen and not just because it entirely fails to capture the concept the chief and the (pre 343) lore, but because they do it through contrived drama, inconsistency in their own lore and writing, bad pacing and gaping plotholes. the wolfkill cortana, grappleshot and forced christianity finally reveals that this show is aimed at pre-18 capeshit enjoyers who haven't been exposed to good games or tv yet, but played the free to play halo and have access to moms credit card for paramount+
OK, as someone who never played and has no insight into how the lore goes, I can spot allusions to Christianity just in the names alone - Covenant, Flood, Halo, etc. Now how those terms are applied and toyed with in the game’s lore is another thing entirely, but I’d guess that it’s at least suggested that some of the events of the Old Testament are genetic memories of events that didn’t actually occur on Earth but were implanted in us by the “Halo” species with whom we share traces of DNA, and that we’re almost destined to make peace with the (Old) Covenant, thereby establishing a New Covenant whose main purpose is to prevent the destruction represented by the Flood.
In short, if it isn’t deeply Christian in theme, it’s at least deeply Abrahamic.
homie this is so delusional it's scary. You saw some words that were also in the Bible and instantly think it has deep Christian connections. Then people say you're wrong and you admit you have no knowledge of the he story you're saying has deep Christian connections. But then you spout off literal nonsense headcanon that is nothing like how the story goes as your basis for claiming the connections. Literally schizophrenic behavior.
Frickin moron. God (the precursors) sent the FLOOD as vengeance for the sins of man and Forerunner and killed everyone who wasn’t on the ARK. The librarian = Noah.
cool insight, but not what we're talking about
we're talking about a hyper christian marine explaining to john-117 that he is an agent of god and putting directly christian scenes (church, prayers) into these scenes for no other reason but to appeal to an american christian audience
religion and and christian and abrahamic religious influence was always a thing in halo because it is written and designed by people who have been exposed to that in a western society and that is all just fine
the issue is overdoing it in the show or to be more precise DOING IT FOR NO REASON
>flood >ark >John 1:17 >false prophets
there is "the Flood," a deadly force which threatens to wipe out all life. In response to this Flood, the Forerunners build an "Ark" to preserve specimens of each species
Main character is John 117
John 1:17 >For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
Anon, the autists at halo.bungie.org went through all the biblical references back in the day.
cool insight, but not what we're talking about
we're talking about a hyper christian marine explaining to john-117 that he is an agent of god and putting directly christian scenes (church, prayers) into these scenes for no other reason but to appeal to an american christian audience
religion and and christian and abrahamic religious influence was always a thing in halo because it is written and designed by people who have been exposed to that in a western society and that is all just fine
the issue is overdoing it in the show or to be more precise DOING IT FOR NO REASON
kinda
The infestation in the show happens because a couple of ancient spores are released from that forerunner capsule last episode
it spreads slowly but starts by freezing the host in place
the host then reawakens and becomes very violent
they do have tentacles and flood like flowers and shit though
could just be explained as this being the very very start of an infestation and there still hasn't been enough time for the flood to act more like the flood we see in the games
Im not a halo gay so it might be a "me" problem but I legit have no idea whats going on
I thought it was gonna be supermarines fighting aliens
but they spent most of the first season on bullshit then they resolved nothing
this season was better i guess but nothing noteworthy either, it seems they are also setting a new enemy with the mind control slug but they really haven't closed shit yet
did this need more episodes?
Show timeline is different from the videogames/books. Watch last week's episode where Halsey and Miranda Keyes find a mummified Forerunner in a hidden Forerunner lab underneath the planet Onyx. Miranda took an artifact that was in the hands of the Forerunner corpse. In this week's episode of the season 2 finale when Miranda brings the artifact back to an ONI lab, some other random scientist tries to poke around inside the artifact which infects her, and she comes into contact with a bunch of other scientists which leads to the outbreak of the flood in the tv show.
Spark didn't want help freeing it, they were freed by humans poking around somewhere they shouldn't because they believed that area was a weapons cache that could be used against the Covenant. I don't remember if the Covenant had the same idea, but they also didn't intend on releasing the Flood.
Spark wanted the Halo to be activated so the Flood couldn't spread further.
The covenant thought activating the rings would take them on their great journey, yet only humanity could access the structures themselves as they are "inheritors"
Was this ever clarified pre-Halo 4? Cause whether or not you like the game, the librarian explains she put forerunner genes in humans, yet the forerunners (like the didact) aren't humans themselves
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Was this ever clarified pre-Halo 4?
It was never outright said but there were more than enough clues. 343 retconned it to make the forerunners into space Voldemort.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Shame. I do wish more had been done with the Didact
3 months ago
Anonymous
They literally just put out a book all about him
3 months ago
Anonymous
It was heavily implied in the lore first two games, but then the terminals in 3 began to say the opposite then it was outright confirmed in 4
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's strongly hinted at that humans=forerunner. IIRC the original plan from Bungie was that the war against the Covenant goes bad and humans travel a million years in the past, encounter the Flood, build the Halo rings, and ultimately light them. The covenant is built around the knowledge that humans destroy the galaxy so they gotta wipe out the humans. It was gonna be one of those time loop "end is the beginning" stories.
In Halo 3, spark says "You [Chief, and by extension humanity] ARE Forerunner... but this ring is MINE!" as well as constantly referring to humans as "reclaimers" instead of "inheritors" or "mantle bearers" or anything else. They're REclaiming all the lost technology. Also humans are the only ones who can make forerunner shit work. All signs point to H=F but creative disagreement muddies the waters.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the original plan from Bungie
this would have been moronic, what were they smoking?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>this would have been moronic
Yeah, that's why they didn't go with it, ass. Doesn't change the fact that humans were originally intended as Forerunners
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's a pretty good video on it if you have the time. But essentially yes. Even disregarding halo 2s cut ending showing this explicitly there too many suggestions to ignore
The Covenant released the Flood. If I remember correctly, the humans intercepted Covenant communications and believed they discovered a Forerunner weapons cache.
Captain Keyes and his squad went to investigate. Cortana later discovered that the "weapons cache" contained a deadly biological weapon that frightened the Covenant.
the original flood was better. Kill the human, then pilot what ever is left of its nervous system to kill more humans. Then when the nervous system is shot to hell or you're out of calories or muscle mass, breed more flood and explode on some humans.
343 just powered hyped them for no reason so they can be muh zombie. You're not doing practical effects so frick off.
>on some dudes back patio
they're unironically fighting on Halo >being a Halo fan in 2024 has to be painful
I waited so fricking long for this show and it's been a huge disappointment.
i know they are fighting on Halo but look at the scene, it straight up looks like they threw a greenscreen behind them while they fight in someones backyard
they couldn't get the spartan's movements right the entire show, they run like capeshit tier CGI
it would be better to show them taking huge strides because they're bigger than normal instead of super speed anime looking running
I know there's a certain contingent of autismos that care about plot holes way too much and shows like this make me relate to them >Spartan IIIs are spartans because of armor and having one week of VR training >last episode everyone in the UNSC suddenly knowing what the Halo is and what it does >first person infected with flood spores just runs towards the nearest person and stabs them instead of infecting them because ??? >Master Chief knowing precisely what ship Cortana is on >Master Chief saves himself and Cortana from dying in a deteriorating ship by punching the control panel
This is neither here nor there, but shout out to all the stupid 343i shit like Chief having a grappling hook and the Forerunners telepathically communicating with Kwan
I love how this scene just telegraphs there going to give all of game Arbiter's story to Makee
The cutscenes are good but there are actual moments in levels where you are being given exposition be it from Cortana or others. There are also terminals around in 3 that you can read. Cutscenes are great great but they will not hit the same without playing up to them due to the music and sudden battles being so hype.
The games are great up to Reach with some really hype moments but don't expect a super detailed story. It is a shooter video game after all. If you want more story read the books.
No, it infects everything organic and the Halo(s) are the way to destroy it by killing all organic life in the galaxy. There's a civil war between the Elites and the rest of the Covenant when the Arbiter discovers that and confronts the leaders of the Covenant who are trying to conceal the fact that only humans can activate it which fricks up their whole prophecy. You're probably confused because in the show it's all moronic and only Makee knows Halo's real purpose for some reason.
Humanity I guess. There are ways to contain a Flood outbreak without firing a Halo, but they are few and far between and become much less effective the longer an outbreak is permitted to last
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ohhh ok.
So they're trying to find a way to repel the Flood before having to resort to firing the Halo(s).
Sounds interesting.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So they're trying to find a way to repel the Flood before having to resort to firing the Halo(s
They usually just amount to "contain the Flood to a specific area then nuke them from orbit." Chief stops the Flood outbreak in the first game by destroying the Halo ring before the Flood had time to find a way to leave
3 months ago
Anonymous
wild how out of the entire covenant armada, made up of phantoms and banshees, the flood never took hold of one and left that way
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's a lot harder to start an outbreak with a single ship that has little to no slipspace capabilities. They were planning on taking the Truth and Reconciliation once the repairs to it were complete, but an ODST figured out their plan thanks to a marine who had only been partially infected by the Flood and destroyed the ship before it could leave.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The dropships and fighters didn't have FTL and the capital ships left or were scuttled before getting infected
ah gotcha
3 months ago
Anonymous
The dropships and fighters didn't have FTL and the capital ships left or were scuttled before getting infected
The whole part in Sandtrap was laughable. The fricking quips, man. Horrendous CGI. If their goal was to make it look like a video game, well they did it. >No one will remember you
>dont follow the reach book >dont follow the reach game >show has nothing to do with the game story >show is not intended for the audience of the game or the books >$10mil per episode
??????????????????????????
i dont care about what people say
the idea that the humans are forerunners is just bad writing.
its literally 8th grade creative writing class levels of story telling
im glad 343 changed it.
it massively opened up the halo universe
it changed the story for the better
and it made the story that had already been told deeper and more interesting.
no
because humanity were created by the precursors who chose humanity to take ownership of the mantle of responsibility
and the librarian changed human dna after the forerunners beat the humans in the war and reseeded them on earth
she gave humans the key to use all forerunner tech and to reclaim their rightful place in the universe
the forerunners hated humans because they believed they should have been the chosen race and they selfishly kept the mantle for themselves
the librarian had also put the portal to the arc on earth so that one day they would reactivate it.
thats why humans are called reclaimers
they are reclaiming their birthright
This is the same game which introduced the didact who then tries to stop everything you just mentioned and then he dies in a QTE at the end just so he can die yet again in a comic.
have a nice day you stupid homosexual. Humans are forerunners and your fanfiction slop is trash.
>halo 4
343 lore with Librarian bragging about how humans are important and unusual and mysterious and important is somehow better than what bungie wrote?
its fanfic tier slop and the fact that 343 spent a decade trying to retcon the old games shows it was a bad move
>better than what bungie wrote?
yes
here is bungie's story about the forerunners >who are forerunners? >humans
thats it
mystery solved
story over
wow incredible writing
and here is another >why did the forerunners die? >the flood
thats it
no mystery
and another >if the forerunners are human, and the forerunners died from the flood why are there humans now? >not explained at all
you do know that they had no story written after 2 right?
2 and 3 was supposed to be 1 game with the 1 story
they never planned or wanted to expand the lore past halo 1+2(3)
they wanted to create a fishbowl and move the frick on
3 months ago
Anonymous
>343 employee butthurt their IP got put on maintenance mode
lmao
>>if the forerunners are human, and the forerunners died from the flood why are there humans now? >>not explained at all >forerunners build halo array as a failsafe, but try to not have to light it >they lose >light array >stow some of them away on the ark outside the milky way, starting over again on their rediscovered homeworld, earth
They felt bad about dabbing on the humans so hard during their war and how they were about to sterilize the galaxy, so they set up humans to be their successors.
The writing in this episode is somehow worse than the entire season 1 plus 2 combined
Flood introduced as last of us tier zombies
Awful cgi fights
Arbiter cgi sucks
Constant cuts to the covie woman for reaction shots where she pulls a grimace 8 fricking times in a 3 minute fight
Flood can be controlled by the season 1 girls ancestor Cherokee powers or something
Kai dies but then doesn’t
Also the fricking flood where being held on some random forerunner on onyx and not kept contained on a ring
Guilty spark has awful cgi and has a shit tier redesign
didn’t even pay for the show and I want my money back
moronic plots and plot holes from this show >We're gonna sacrifice Master Chief to have a martyr for propaganda purposes so that we can recruit for our new spartan III program and send them on a mission that the Chief and his team could have done >Oh yeah blowing up a covenant ship's reactor will allow us to blow up entire fleets and maybe the Halo as well >The spartans are supposed to deliver the spike to blow the reactor, but then don't and for some reason a UNSC fleet shows up despite the plan being to blow the entire area up >Ackerson sends Cobalt team to visegrad relay, refuses to inform them that the covenant is likely there for whatever reason. Despite being spartan IIs, they get killed like little b***hes >Flood starts to spread, everyone seems strangely calm about it and doesn't even realize? Miranda just stays in her lab the entire time >Chief doesn't notice that Kai did not get aboard the Condor. Also the next we see of him, he's flying through space. Also, he somehow just knows which ship has Cortana on it?
Then we get to bad presentation >subpar alien cgi >annoying alien language >boring ass plot about Soren and his family >boring filler episodes >Unexciting shootouts >Despite shit being glassed and blown up from on high, we literally never see a covenant ship doing it
Then we get to characters >Chief is a dour c**t >Parangosky's plans are moronic >Kwan >Soren has no acting range no matter the situation he's in
All of this is observable without being a Halo fan. Its a terrible adaptation and an even worse TV show.
to be fair the final episode was actually great
the rest of the season was terrible, and not showing the fall of reach the way it deserved was fricking bullshit
The fall of Reach was mishandled in the worst possible way. They didn't even try to make it seem like an entire planet was getting fricked up, they just showed like half a city being destroyed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
that should have been the focus of the show, but the showrunner must be so nervious of getting canceled he prematurely ejaculated the rest of the lore you could possible look forward to. "Here's the halo and the flood, please help greenlight season 3."
3 months ago
Anonymous
Don't forget about the Spartan IIIs that are more like Spartan IVs than anything.
3 months ago
Anonymous
jesus fricking christ, the Spartan IIs were like greek heros. There were only 21, each unique with their own advantages, each one capable of saving 500 marines at once. Human Navy was dog shit, but the Spartan II were the only thing that gave them an equal footing in a ground assault. And they were never going to be made again. The Fall of Reach was about loosing nearly all of them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Spartan IIIs have been a thing in the lore for a long time, and even Bungie acknowledged them. But the show ignored that and just made them regular people in suits. They're basically ODSTs wearing SPI while being called Spartans.
the frick are you talking about, no other company owns the rights to halo, it's only microsoft, microsoft is licensing the Halo IP to Paramount to make the show. They bought the entire IP off of bungo when they split.
Onyx is just as much a part of the Halo IP to 343 as THE Halo itself is.
They wasted most of the season on side topic bullshit and master chief without his fricking armor
They said they wanted to make this 'feel more like halo', and if they're making a season 3 they should try harder.
Still haven't watched the last episode but really disappointed in the series.
i dunno if youve watched any of the season so far but >unsc had a weapon to blow up a covenant ship and take out the halo >spess marines and kai get on a ship >all the other marines except kai get killed or injured >they're out of ammo too >master chief saves them >chief goes to the halo >to give him time, kai rams the ship into the covenant's main battle ship >they show her floating in space after, despite her ship blowing up while ramming into another ship that was blowing up so she's probably not dead
Playing Halo 2 in 2004 was the most fun i've ever had in online multiplayer. Nothing has hit the mark for me since. Shame how they massacred my boi for the past decade
I think that there should be only one person on the board that watches all this slop. Then he can upload webms to laugh at. I am finding it shocking how many people are watching the whole show. I saw 4 episodes knowing it would be shit, and I couldnt watch it even to make fun of it. That is one stinky as shit, when it is so bad and moronic and lame that you cant even watch it to make fun of it. I was even drinking. Drunk me turned off stuipid shit. That is almost unprecedented.
You're bad at your job, shill.
Did they get to the titular Halo yet?
yes, but only that, the rest you can watch in the next season
i think op was trying to be ironic, either way here are the spoilers:
>"spartan" IIIs spawning out of nowhere like literal npcs to get mowed down and replaced by respawning spartans
>fleet battle is 2 seconds of blurry cgi
>again we have forgotten what tactics are
>pajeetgosky uses her telepathy to talk to chief through the discord mute function
>cumquat and penguin plot entirely irrelevant
>ackerson redemption arc
>flood on onyx, literally nobody cares or raises the alarm
>flood on onyx
>crushedtana
>punching a panel with hulk strength lets master queef control a ship and fix crushedtana
>halsey flooded
>halo infinite grappleshot fight
>arbiter wins but then decides to commit assisted seppuku
>I AM A SEMEN DEMON
>guilty spark debrief
>broken helmet with open visor
BONUS ROUND:
>christian prayers
>talking to your ancestors who art in heaven
>barely hidden angel and demon analogy
>please christian youths buy more microsoft products we are good americans
i know we like to be contrarian up in here but i can say without a doubt that this show is still one of the worst series i've ever seen and not just because it entirely fails to capture the concept the chief and the (pre 343) lore, but because they do it through contrived drama, inconsistency in their own lore and writing, bad pacing and gaping plotholes. the wolfkill cortana, grappleshot and forced christianity finally reveals that this show is aimed at pre-18 capeshit enjoyers who haven't been exposed to good games or tv yet, but played the free to play halo and have access to moms credit card for paramount+
>flood on onyx
>flood
>onyx
I know anon, I know.. it was super effective…
What's wrong with it
Might as well have had the Flood on Reach. Or frick it, Flood on Harvest.
Halo had always had Christian themes in it but you’re clearly one of those homosexuals that played the matchmaking multiplayer and nothing else.
>Halo had always had Christian themes in it
pray tell which shoehorned direct christian themes are put into halo pre 343 outside of the gothic chanting
OK, as someone who never played and has no insight into how the lore goes, I can spot allusions to Christianity just in the names alone - Covenant, Flood, Halo, etc. Now how those terms are applied and toyed with in the game’s lore is another thing entirely, but I’d guess that it’s at least suggested that some of the events of the Old Testament are genetic memories of events that didn’t actually occur on Earth but were implanted in us by the “Halo” species with whom we share traces of DNA, and that we’re almost destined to make peace with the (Old) Covenant, thereby establishing a New Covenant whose main purpose is to prevent the destruction represented by the Flood.
In short, if it isn’t deeply Christian in theme, it’s at least deeply Abrahamic.
homie this is so delusional it's scary. You saw some words that were also in the Bible and instantly think it has deep Christian connections. Then people say you're wrong and you admit you have no knowledge of the he story you're saying has deep Christian connections. But then you spout off literal nonsense headcanon that is nothing like how the story goes as your basis for claiming the connections. Literally schizophrenic behavior.
John 117 is pretty cool but the show totally goes over the top and moronic with it.
Frickin moron. God (the precursors) sent the FLOOD as vengeance for the sins of man and Forerunner and killed everyone who wasn’t on the ARK. The librarian = Noah.
cool insight, but not what we're talking about
we're talking about a hyper christian marine explaining to john-117 that he is an agent of god and putting directly christian scenes (church, prayers) into these scenes for no other reason but to appeal to an american christian audience
religion and and christian and abrahamic religious influence was always a thing in halo because it is written and designed by people who have been exposed to that in a western society and that is all just fine
the issue is overdoing it in the show or to be more precise DOING IT FOR NO REASON
>flood
>ark
>John 1:17
>false prophets
there is "the Flood," a deadly force which threatens to wipe out all life. In response to this Flood, the Forerunners build an "Ark" to preserve specimens of each species
Main character is John 117
John 1:17
>For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
Anon, the autists at halo.bungie.org went through all the biblical references back in the day.
don't bother, you're arguing with a israelite. his pilpul will send you insane and you'll never change his mind
tartarus, the prophets have betrayed us
This really was someone's shitty OC sci-fi script that had the Halo IP slapped on it huh?
cool, can't wait for the next Angry Joe episode.
It’s out and they fricking hate it. This show is unapologetic DOGSHIT
The season was so shit that this mid episode actually somewhat resembling halo will be slurped up by normies and praised as "good"
I hope that green-eyed latina becomes Chief's sidekick because she's adorable.
I haven't watched it yet, the flood are generic zombies, aren't they?
have a nice day homosexual
Or alternatively, you could answer if they did the flood right you dirty Black person
They didn't even do Master Chief right.
>i haven't thrown my money at the israelites yet, to watch this subversive slop
>just haven't had the time
You're pathetic.
I can't wait to get home tonight and watch it now
Based well-adjusted person who doesn't need to drag everyone down with him.
kinda
The infestation in the show happens because a couple of ancient spores are released from that forerunner capsule last episode
it spreads slowly but starts by freezing the host in place
the host then reawakens and becomes very violent
they do have tentacles and flood like flowers and shit though
could just be explained as this being the very very start of an infestation and there still hasn't been enough time for the flood to act more like the flood we see in the games
>The infestation in the show happens because a couple of ancient spores are released from that forerunner capsule last episode
why were there flood spores not on the halo??
Im not a halo gay so it might be a "me" problem but I legit have no idea whats going on
I thought it was gonna be supermarines fighting aliens
but they spent most of the first season on bullshit then they resolved nothing
this season was better i guess but nothing noteworthy either, it seems they are also setting a new enemy with the mind control slug but they really haven't closed shit yet
did this need more episodes?
i can fix her and our pet slug
Is this supposed to be the Pillar of Autumn?
So quick question
wtf is the halo?
i have watched 16 episodes of this
and i still dont
know
Basically, weapons to destroy living material in order to starve (and kill) the Flood.
Play the first game and save yourself hours of watching this slop.
It's a bunch of big ancient space wiener rings that wipe out all life in the galaxy so the Flood don't have any snax.
>He puts his helmet back on
This episode was a TEN out of TEN
John wasn't a braggard.
That's the Chief.
Epic foreshadowing.
>quips while about to die
Based
>the ship's right in front of me, isn't it?
Are you fricking kidding me
How in the frick is this scene written worse than a fricking video game from 2010
Cool reference to the E3 2018 trailer for Halo Infinite
he walks like a street Black person not a soldier, hunched over and ape-like
Isn't the flood locked away on Halo which is why 343 Guilty Spark needs the Chief to help him free them/it?
Show timeline is different from the videogames/books. Watch last week's episode where Halsey and Miranda Keyes find a mummified Forerunner in a hidden Forerunner lab underneath the planet Onyx. Miranda took an artifact that was in the hands of the Forerunner corpse. In this week's episode of the season 2 finale when Miranda brings the artifact back to an ONI lab, some other random scientist tries to poke around inside the artifact which infects her, and she comes into contact with a bunch of other scientists which leads to the outbreak of the flood in the tv show.
So... what's the significance of Halo then?
It's used to wipe out all life to starve the Flood of its food?
You forgot the time when Halsey becomes flooded.
>Watch last week's episode
there is no plot detail in this series that lines up with the video games
Spark didn't want help freeing it, they were freed by humans poking around somewhere they shouldn't because they believed that area was a weapons cache that could be used against the Covenant. I don't remember if the Covenant had the same idea, but they also didn't intend on releasing the Flood.
Spark wanted the Halo to be activated so the Flood couldn't spread further.
The covenant thought activating the rings would take them on their great journey, yet only humanity could access the structures themselves as they are "inheritors"
>yet only humanity could access the structures themselves as they are "inheritors"
That's because humans were the forerunners
Was this ever clarified pre-Halo 4? Cause whether or not you like the game, the librarian explains she put forerunner genes in humans, yet the forerunners (like the didact) aren't humans themselves
>Was this ever clarified pre-Halo 4?
It was never outright said but there were more than enough clues. 343 retconned it to make the forerunners into space Voldemort.
Shame. I do wish more had been done with the Didact
They literally just put out a book all about him
It was heavily implied in the lore first two games, but then the terminals in 3 began to say the opposite then it was outright confirmed in 4
It's strongly hinted at that humans=forerunner. IIRC the original plan from Bungie was that the war against the Covenant goes bad and humans travel a million years in the past, encounter the Flood, build the Halo rings, and ultimately light them. The covenant is built around the knowledge that humans destroy the galaxy so they gotta wipe out the humans. It was gonna be one of those time loop "end is the beginning" stories.
In Halo 3, spark says "You [Chief, and by extension humanity] ARE Forerunner... but this ring is MINE!" as well as constantly referring to humans as "reclaimers" instead of "inheritors" or "mantle bearers" or anything else. They're REclaiming all the lost technology. Also humans are the only ones who can make forerunner shit work. All signs point to H=F but creative disagreement muddies the waters.
>the original plan from Bungie
this would have been moronic, what were they smoking?
>this would have been moronic
Yeah, that's why they didn't go with it, ass. Doesn't change the fact that humans were originally intended as Forerunners
There's a pretty good video on it if you have the time. But essentially yes. Even disregarding halo 2s cut ending showing this explicitly there too many suggestions to ignore
The Covenant released the Flood. If I remember correctly, the humans intercepted Covenant communications and believed they discovered a Forerunner weapons cache.
Captain Keyes and his squad went to investigate. Cortana later discovered that the "weapons cache" contained a deadly biological weapon that frightened the Covenant.
>here's your flood bro
you barely saw the full transformation, only the first symptoms of infection and the very start of the disfiguration
>only the first symptoms of infection and the very start of the disfiguration
You mean the thing that takes like five seconds to occur in the games?
>the games
the who? this is a tv show about Mr. John Halo
Frick my bad, bro. Must've gotten it confused with something else.
the show visually looks nice, everything else is a mess
the original flood was better. Kill the human, then pilot what ever is left of its nervous system to kill more humans. Then when the nervous system is shot to hell or you're out of calories or muscle mass, breed more flood and explode on some humans.
343 just powered hyped them for no reason so they can be muh zombie. You're not doing practical effects so frick off.
>Kwan Ha is immune to the flood... because we say so! Capisce?
>group of women/witches
Why did they have to shove that shit into a Halo tv show?
The finale was Kino.
S2 as a whole was a solid 7.8/10, much much better than s1.
This looks like absolute shit, are they fighting on some dudes back patio? and is that the arbiter?
being a Halo fan in 2024 has to be painful
>on some dudes back patio
they're unironically fighting on Halo
>being a Halo fan in 2024 has to be painful
I waited so fricking long for this show and it's been a huge disappointment.
i know they are fighting on Halo but look at the scene, it straight up looks like they threw a greenscreen behind them while they fight in someones backyard
they couldn't get the spartan's movements right the entire show, they run like capeshit tier CGI
it would be better to show them taking huge strides because they're bigger than normal instead of super speed anime looking running
he got punched in the face a couple times and then said his life is over now so he let chief kill him
even though he beat the ever living shit out of chief for like 2 straight minutes of pummelling not only 30 seconds before
Why is this b***h still alive? I thought Kai aired her out in the S1 finale?
3 type onahole for mister cheeks
no one's ever really gone
I know there's a certain contingent of autismos that care about plot holes way too much and shows like this make me relate to them
>Spartan IIIs are spartans because of armor and having one week of VR training
>last episode everyone in the UNSC suddenly knowing what the Halo is and what it does
>first person infected with flood spores just runs towards the nearest person and stabs them instead of infecting them because ???
>Master Chief knowing precisely what ship Cortana is on
>Master Chief saves himself and Cortana from dying in a deteriorating ship by punching the control panel
This is neither here nor there, but shout out to all the stupid 343i shit like Chief having a grappling hook and the Forerunners telepathically communicating with Kwan
I love how this scene just telegraphs there going to give all of game Arbiter's story to Makee
I haven't played the games. Is the Flood only a threat to humans? If nnot, why don't humans join forces with the covenant to find a way to destroy it?
The Covenant won't do it because it's part of their religion, but the Elites help out in Halo 3 after they leave The Covenant.
cool. kinda makes me want to play the games ngl
You just missed the sale, but you can pirate the singleplayers easily.
I think the collection is on gamepass, which I have, but I'm not very into FPSes. I was thinking of just watching the cutscenes on YT
You could just play on easy with a modifier that gives you infinite ammo. There's some exposition that happens outside of cutscenes.
The cutscenes are good but there are actual moments in levels where you are being given exposition be it from Cortana or others. There are also terminals around in 3 that you can read. Cutscenes are great great but they will not hit the same without playing up to them due to the music and sudden battles being so hype.
The games are great up to Reach with some really hype moments but don't expect a super detailed story. It is a shooter video game after all. If you want more story read the books.
No, it infects everything organic and the Halo(s) are the way to destroy it by killing all organic life in the galaxy. There's a civil war between the Elites and the rest of the Covenant when the Arbiter discovers that and confronts the leaders of the Covenant who are trying to conceal the fact that only humans can activate it which fricks up their whole prophecy. You're probably confused because in the show it's all moronic and only Makee knows Halo's real purpose for some reason.
>Halo(s) are the way to destroy it by killing all organic life in the galaxy
Wait but then won't humanity die if they activate the Halo(s) too?
Yes, everything in the galaxy that could potentially spread the Flood gets killed.
Damn. So the universe in Halo is fricked.
What's MC fighting for then?
Humanity I guess. There are ways to contain a Flood outbreak without firing a Halo, but they are few and far between and become much less effective the longer an outbreak is permitted to last
Ohhh ok.
So they're trying to find a way to repel the Flood before having to resort to firing the Halo(s).
Sounds interesting.
>So they're trying to find a way to repel the Flood before having to resort to firing the Halo(s
They usually just amount to "contain the Flood to a specific area then nuke them from orbit." Chief stops the Flood outbreak in the first game by destroying the Halo ring before the Flood had time to find a way to leave
wild how out of the entire covenant armada, made up of phantoms and banshees, the flood never took hold of one and left that way
It's a lot harder to start an outbreak with a single ship that has little to no slipspace capabilities. They were planning on taking the Truth and Reconciliation once the repairs to it were complete, but an ODST figured out their plan thanks to a marine who had only been partially infected by the Flood and destroyed the ship before it could leave.
ah gotcha
The dropships and fighters didn't have FTL and the capital ships left or were scuttled before getting infected
Yeah. It's the nuclear option, the flood's bad news.
The whole part in Sandtrap was laughable. The fricking quips, man. Horrendous CGI. If their goal was to make it look like a video game, well they did it.
>No one will remember you
im glad they didnt kill perez. one of the only likeable characters in the show.
>dont follow the reach book
>dont follow the reach game
>show has nothing to do with the game story
>show is not intended for the audience of the game or the books
>$10mil per episode
??????????????????????????
money laundering
i dont care about what people say
the idea that the humans are forerunners is just bad writing.
its literally 8th grade creative writing class levels of story telling
im glad 343 changed it.
it massively opened up the halo universe
it changed the story for the better
and it made the story that had already been told deeper and more interesting.
Why would a completely unrelated race make all of their technology compatible with humans exclusively?
play halo 4
it explains it
Because Chief is the chosen one?
no
because humanity were created by the precursors who chose humanity to take ownership of the mantle of responsibility
and the librarian changed human dna after the forerunners beat the humans in the war and reseeded them on earth
she gave humans the key to use all forerunner tech and to reclaim their rightful place in the universe
the forerunners hated humans because they believed they should have been the chosen race and they selfishly kept the mantle for themselves
the librarian had also put the portal to the arc on earth so that one day they would reactivate it.
thats why humans are called reclaimers
they are reclaiming their birthright
This is the same game which introduced the didact who then tries to stop everything you just mentioned and then he dies in a QTE at the end just so he can die yet again in a comic.
have a nice day you stupid homosexual. Humans are forerunners and your fanfiction slop is trash.
>halo 4
343 lore with Librarian bragging about how humans are important and unusual and mysterious and important is somehow better than what bungie wrote?
its fanfic tier slop and the fact that 343 spent a decade trying to retcon the old games shows it was a bad move
>better than what bungie wrote?
yes
here is bungie's story about the forerunners
>who are forerunners?
>humans
thats it
mystery solved
story over
wow incredible writing
and here is another
>why did the forerunners die?
>the flood
thats it
no mystery
and another
>if the forerunners are human, and the forerunners died from the flood why are there humans now?
>not explained at all
sounds based and like you got filtered
you do know that they had no story written after 2 right?
2 and 3 was supposed to be 1 game with the 1 story
they never planned or wanted to expand the lore past halo 1+2(3)
they wanted to create a fishbowl and move the frick on
>343 employee butthurt their IP got put on maintenance mode
lmao
sounds awesome
>>if the forerunners are human, and the forerunners died from the flood why are there humans now?
>>not explained at all
>forerunners build halo array as a failsafe, but try to not have to light it
>they lose
>light array
>stow some of them away on the ark outside the milky way, starting over again on their rediscovered homeworld, earth
>play halo 4
Hey man, that is NOT cool. Frick you too.
They felt bad about dabbing on the humans so hard during their war and how they were about to sterilize the galaxy, so they set up humans to be their successors.
Hello frank
I'm glad they fired you.
reminder Frankie was literally a janitor on the bungie forums in the h1-h3 era
>have a nice day you stupid homosexual. Humans are forerunners and your fanfiction slop is trash.
that's the end of the season? What a waste of fricking time this season has been
This season could have been three episodes, tops. Could have gotten some proper fall of reach or space battle budgets too in that case.
>not a bad finale
>only last episode of the entire series is somewhat good
lol lmao
>I'm an idiot with two needlers
Only thing they got right from the game
The writing in this episode is somehow worse than the entire season 1 plus 2 combined
Flood introduced as last of us tier zombies
Awful cgi fights
Arbiter cgi sucks
Constant cuts to the covie woman for reaction shots where she pulls a grimace 8 fricking times in a 3 minute fight
Flood can be controlled by the season 1 girls ancestor Cherokee powers or something
Kai dies but then doesn’t
Also the fricking flood where being held on some random forerunner on onyx and not kept contained on a ring
Guilty spark has awful cgi and has a shit tier redesign
didn’t even pay for the show and I want my money back
moronic plots and plot holes from this show
>We're gonna sacrifice Master Chief to have a martyr for propaganda purposes so that we can recruit for our new spartan III program and send them on a mission that the Chief and his team could have done
>Oh yeah blowing up a covenant ship's reactor will allow us to blow up entire fleets and maybe the Halo as well
>The spartans are supposed to deliver the spike to blow the reactor, but then don't and for some reason a UNSC fleet shows up despite the plan being to blow the entire area up
>Ackerson sends Cobalt team to visegrad relay, refuses to inform them that the covenant is likely there for whatever reason. Despite being spartan IIs, they get killed like little b***hes
>Flood starts to spread, everyone seems strangely calm about it and doesn't even realize? Miranda just stays in her lab the entire time
>Chief doesn't notice that Kai did not get aboard the Condor. Also the next we see of him, he's flying through space. Also, he somehow just knows which ship has Cortana on it?
Then we get to bad presentation
>subpar alien cgi
>annoying alien language
>boring ass plot about Soren and his family
>boring filler episodes
>Unexciting shootouts
>Despite shit being glassed and blown up from on high, we literally never see a covenant ship doing it
Then we get to characters
>Chief is a dour c**t
>Parangosky's plans are moronic
>Kwan
>Soren has no acting range no matter the situation he's in
All of this is observable without being a Halo fan. Its a terrible adaptation and an even worse TV show.
We didn't get a whole episode of Chief just running up the library to get to Guilty Spark. They fricked it.
they really said frick you guys, the only thing like the game will be that master chief is green
Suddenly the insane amounts of wanking and fellating the Halo TV show is getting on reddit/twitter is starting to make sense
This is a kotaku writer btw
>Alyssa Mercante
Isn't that the one that got kicked out of a discord for trying to doxx people?
She said you can't be racist to white people
Holy shit it is. She's the one who was playing gustapo for sweet baby, right?
Yes, quite blatantly. She isn't very bright.
LOL
Well she's not wrong even if it's blatantly obvious she doesn't practice what she's preaching here.
There's a direct correlation between society going down the shitter and people taking the internet seriously
imagine calling your dad with tears in your voice over something like being bullied on twitter. As a adult. How fricking coddled do you have to be.
to be fair the final episode was actually great
the rest of the season was terrible, and not showing the fall of reach the way it deserved was fricking bullshit
The fall of Reach revolved around a blind albino ginger Black person who could still use a grenade launcher and his gay lover.
>episode 1
ok
>episode 2
boring
>episode 3
boring
>episode 4
horrible (fall of reach)
>episode 5
boring
>episode 6
ok
>episode 7
ok
>episode 8
great
If fall of reach is horrible and the introduction of the flood is great, it's only down hill from here.
The fall of Reach was mishandled in the worst possible way. They didn't even try to make it seem like an entire planet was getting fricked up, they just showed like half a city being destroyed.
that should have been the focus of the show, but the showrunner must be so nervious of getting canceled he prematurely ejaculated the rest of the lore you could possible look forward to. "Here's the halo and the flood, please help greenlight season 3."
Don't forget about the Spartan IIIs that are more like Spartan IVs than anything.
jesus fricking christ, the Spartan IIs were like greek heros. There were only 21, each unique with their own advantages, each one capable of saving 500 marines at once. Human Navy was dog shit, but the Spartan II were the only thing that gave them an equal footing in a ground assault. And they were never going to be made again. The Fall of Reach was about loosing nearly all of them.
Spartan IIIs have been a thing in the lore for a long time, and even Bungie acknowledged them. But the show ignored that and just made them regular people in suits. They're basically ODSTs wearing SPI while being called Spartans.
It's actually amazing how irrelevant that is in the entire story and season, yet was clearly thrown in as DEI and ESG bait.
kai is kill?
50/50. They showed her floating in space, but her suit was completely intact. They could very easily pull some Princess Leila bullshit
The reason why they set it on Onyx is because Onyx is a wholly 343-owned element of the franchise, written using their lore bible.
the frick are you talking about, no other company owns the rights to halo, it's only microsoft, microsoft is licensing the Halo IP to Paramount to make the show. They bought the entire IP off of bungo when they split.
Onyx is just as much a part of the Halo IP to 343 as THE Halo itself is.
They wasted most of the season on side topic bullshit and master chief without his fricking armor
They said they wanted to make this 'feel more like halo', and if they're making a season 3 they should try harder.
Still haven't watched the last episode but really disappointed in the series.
The only good thing is the music since they kicked out the previous composer and hired Bear McCreary.
I miss the opening music from season 1
go frick yourself
Lame.
>that was the finale
????????? nothing happened
it wasn't even a good cliffhanger
also the kai "sendoff" was complete dogshit
>kai "sendoff"
They killed off the one and only character I liked from the first season? Lol.
i dunno if youve watched any of the season so far but
>unsc had a weapon to blow up a covenant ship and take out the halo
>spess marines and kai get on a ship
>all the other marines except kai get killed or injured
>they're out of ammo too
>master chief saves them
>chief goes to the halo
>to give him time, kai rams the ship into the covenant's main battle ship
>they show her floating in space after, despite her ship blowing up while ramming into another ship that was blowing up so she's probably not dead
It's pretty much fricking over, right? How tf are they supposed contain the Flood now?
2meta4me
What would Mister Cheese think of the series?
I assume they're making a season 3 by the way this ended
She's cute. She's like Aubrey Plaza if Aubrey Plaza was less of a succubus.
She has pretty eyes.
I agree. She very cute.
Playing Halo 2 in 2004 was the most fun i've ever had in online multiplayer. Nothing has hit the mark for me since. Shame how they massacred my boi for the past decade
I genuinely loved the campaign, the multiplayer came last. Just playing with friends split screen was more fun at first than live.
>finally puts his helmet on
>gets a hole in it so you can still see his face
kek
>its a paramount IP
>paramount shills tell everyone they're insane for not liking the show
same as it ever was
I dont know how paramount stays afloat. I dont know anybody that has paramount+ and the the last paramount movie I saw was top gun maverick
fraudulent economy
Kys moron
I don't care about a Halo show unless there was gay sex
what if we have gay sex while we watch it
i want to see more about the little black kid who is supposed to be 8 but looks like hes 14 and growing a moustache
also i never thought i'd say it but kwan was 100% redeemed this season
its a stunning turn tables
I think that there should be only one person on the board that watches all this slop. Then he can upload webms to laugh at. I am finding it shocking how many people are watching the whole show. I saw 4 episodes knowing it would be shit, and I couldnt watch it even to make fun of it. That is one stinky as shit, when it is so bad and moronic and lame that you cant even watch it to make fun of it. I was even drinking. Drunk me turned off stuipid shit. That is almost unprecedented.
Is that meant to be Thel Vadam?
No. Surprisingly, they got the lore about the Arbiter being a title and not a specific Elite right.
He didn't become the Arbiter until after the first Halo was destroyed.