Hamster and Gretel

>It already has more episodes in its first season than the frog and owl shows.

Based from the start.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >P&F art style
    dropped, even calarts looks better than this shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. Why do people hate the CalArts style when there’s much worse out there.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you are right, but pnf style is way better than calarts

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol, no

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          yup

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. Why do people hate the CalArts style when there’s much worse out there.

      No it’s not, industry troons. Frick off back to your primordial home of tumblr.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >muh buzzwords

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Phineas as and Ferb’s art style is leagues better than the Calarts art style. Go back to tumblr and don’t come back, homosexual who works in the american cartoon industry.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Hi Dan

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Hi random industry animator

              it's not, why don't you cry about it some more and use some more random buzzwords

              The only ‘buzzword’ in that entire post is ‘calarts’, and to a lesser extent ‘homosexual’. But judging how both posts I replied to use ‘calarts’ they seem to know exactly what I mean by it so there should be no problem.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's not, why don't you cry about it some more and use some more random buzzwords

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              you gotta admit that their silhouettes are immediately recognizable

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                who is the top right?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Irving

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is way better than pastel Steven Universe shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Steven Universe actually had soul unlike PnF.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Get out of here with your Young Adventures of Dr. Phil and the Space Lesbians.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Better than the same episode over and over again.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              that's part of the plot, but strays further from that formula the more episodes in

              Get out of here with your Young Adventures of Dr. Phil and the Space Lesbians.

              lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >what if we made trash

      Not even. MML looked much better. This feels like a canadian rip off toon. Big low budget energy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >P&F art style
      More like MML style.
      >even calarts looks better than this shit
      If the finished show looks as bad as this concept (?) art, then yeah, I agree.
      The so-called calarts style is way overhated, there are cartoonist out there who produce much bigger eyesores.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This. In a medium with terrible art styles, why does CalArts get shaky depsite not even being that bad? I can name you much worse.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Pic unrelated

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >he actually thinks this looks good

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yet Amphibia and Owl House have more quality. Funny that.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Yet Amphibia and Owl House have more quality. Funny that.
      Now let's not be hasty about that, jack. Let's see what this new show is gonna be like before we make such ridiculous assumptions.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Those shows actually took risks and had ambition.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Those shows forgot to actually be appealing for kids

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            5 minute shorts with bright flashy colours and characters moving like spastics is what appeals to kids in 2022. Can't have a single second to breathe or otherwise the screenraised, dopamine receptor culled hellspawn loses interest and watches something else.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Kids today are cancer.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >screenraised, dopamine receptor culled hellspawn
              chill out owltroon
              it's at least better than
              >copy little witch academia, watch the show flounder for it's first season then throw in lesbians so easily pleased gays on twitter and tumblr start watching your show and pretending it has any narrative depth beyond two girls kissing

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >owl house
          >risks
          Lol

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Amphibia sure but Owl House is a watered down Gravity Falls.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >implying Amphibia isn't also a watered down Gravity Falls

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It’s Gravity Falls if it didn’t shit the bed at the second half of season 2

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                *and was shit from the start.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No

                And actually stuck to a three season plan instead of pushing out after the first season.

                Yes

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And actually stuck to a three season plan instead of pushing out after the first season.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I understand your sentiment, and normally I would agree, but after that trailer I have a hard time imagining this show really trying to do anything. I hope to be proven wrong but right now it just feels very mediocre.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe the whole point was to be so bad we’d beg for Owl House and Amphibia to come back.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Huh, now wouldn't that be a wild long term plan. Sounds like a very expensive tactic. But who knows? Stranger things have happened. Do we know how many episodes and how many season this show is already green lit for?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Amphibia does, not owl house

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Amphibia and Owl House have more quality.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        See

        >P&F art style
        More like MML style.
        >even calarts looks better than this shit
        If the finished show looks as bad as this concept (?) art, then yeah, I agree.
        The so-called calarts style is way overhated, there are cartoonist out there who produce much bigger eyesores.

        It has good art you all are just trained to hate the CalArts style.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Kevin is literally Candace
    the only thing that could save this show is Kevin having a cute male friend to ship with, the lead looks so fricking bland and boring

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fujo?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fujo?

      didn't someone working on the show confirm he's gay?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        based if true

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >no lesbians
          >more gays
          It’s shit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There are more lesbians than gays in cartoons and entertainment in general for that matter, wtf are you talking about?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              b***h lesbians are under represented in comics and cartoons. Gay men get the lion's share of media attention.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, did the the creators themselves state it?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah we need more evidence than just he said, she said.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why does it matter if the creators confirmed it or not?

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I see doof in the poster.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't this mary sue child literally have super strength and the ability to fly amongst other abilities? She's literally a female superman but without kryptonite as a weakness. How the frick are these literal who super villains gonna stand a chance?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She’s a little girl with a little girl’s way of thinking. Her weakness will be lack of forethought.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonyrnous

        I'm already fond of Kevin and his desire to be "out on the open road," but this show's success truly will rely on how charming Hamster and Gretel turn out to be. I need me some cute, lovable protagonists otherwise the whole show will have been a waste. Hopefully they do present her childlike nature as an obstacle that only Kevin can aid with. That'd be cute to see.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Powerpuff Girls made it work

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, so this is just a powerpuff girls ripoff? Nothing of value then.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I was just bringing up an example but when you compare them side by side…

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You seems to already have your mind made up.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      His weakness is her white privilege

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        she’s half venezuelan

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Source?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            https://twitter.com/Joannahausmann/status/1532943599687675904
            One of the s writers is Venezuelan-American and chose to make the mom (Carolina) Venezuelan and the Dad (Dave) a white American.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I can't seem to run away from fricking venecos, eh? Everywhere I go.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I am a hispanic of ecuadorian and puerto rican descent. I do not understand this desire for self-insertion. Most of my favorite childhood protagonists were white (if they were even humans) and I never gave a frick.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sure you are.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I am a hispanic of ecuadorian and puerto rican descent. I do not understand this desire for self-insertion. Most of my favorite childhood protagonists were white (if they were even humans) and I never gave a frick.

                As someone who is Mexican-Ecuadorian I would rather they don't self insert and if they really have to it better be one of those two things I am

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cope libtard blanco, and go back to reddtit you moron where they won't kick your sss for saying latinx

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you even speak Spanish?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the frick up troony, you're not on r/asablackman

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why are Hamster and Gretel threads filled with trannies?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The more you use that term the less people take you seriously

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know. Baddies like Lex Luthor and Toyman still give Supes a hard time.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OH SHI

    So its Milo Murphy Season 2 all over again?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Doof's wearing the PLATUPUS CONTROLLING ME helmet
      neat.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Doof wasn't in the credits I had so I was holding out hope he wouldn't be in it at all, but I guess Danny boy can't help but include his self insert. I haven't seen any episodes, I just have documents.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I just have documents
        please share

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I leaked an episode list a few days ago which was understandably met with skepticism, but in the time since then and now I got some more stuff which probably lends more credence. They've only delivered the first few episodes to the network at the moment. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/131071018/#131072643

          While I'm posting about confidential Disney materials, I might as well say the leaked Owl House S3 titles are real, but "Thanks to Them" may actually be called "Thanks to Her". The metadata is different in different systems.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I believe you but is there anyway you could download those spreadsheets and upload them somewhere without getting in trouble? Would be neat to read through those transcripts early. I also noticed in your first image there's an air date of August which gives us a confirmed date of when this show starts airing.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              https://tmpfiles.org/dl/312466/hg.zip

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                based, thank you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Since you mentioned owl house do you have anything from that show?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                since the leak link is dead here's the most interesting information from it

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Now if only we knew how these characters actually are, like "Animus Machina" and "Professor Exclamation" are obviously super villains, but "Fred" doesn't exactly tells us a lot.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but "Fred" doesn't exactly tells us a lot.
                Here's info from the press release
                >Kevin: Gretel's older brother
                >Fred: Tech-savy cousin
                >Dave: Easygoing father
                >Carolina: Charismatic mother
                https://screenrant.com/hamster-gretel-disney-cast-excusive/

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So the hamster will talk after all. I was expecting him to be the Perry/Ferb of the show.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Fred is voiced by Joey King
                Either it's a young boy or a girl with a boyish name like the VA.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Dan sings most of the songs
                Why

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because he's the creator, that's why

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Dan sings most of the songs
                he's the writer, they're sung by characters

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Gretel is being voiced by a relative
                So that’s why her voice just does not fit at all, nepotism

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >phil, the avatar of hypocrisy made flesh, lamarr is voicing a character
                >it's white

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's not even the first time; he voiced Barry Allen, with no race swapping, on DC Super Hero Girls. But Molly McGee had two white women voice israeli Mexicans so we might be slowly returning to normal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >deliberately conflates ethnicity with nationality as if he doesn't know what people are talking about
                What a disingenuous homosexual.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >problematic
                I didn't expect an elder like him to type like a zoomer moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            https://tmpfiles.org/dl/312466/hg.zip

            always love a good legit Cinemaphile leak

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I don't. These leaks frick with the intended reveal of info on the series and could potentially put those who've worked on said series in danger of losing their jobs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >These leaks frick with the intended reveal of info on the series
                They're sneak peeks at behind the scenes, they don't spoil shit as often as before.
                >and could potentially put those who've worked on said series in danger of losing their jobs.
                If they fire anyone it would be the leaker, and they know the risks.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >They're sneak peeks at behind the scenes, they don't spoil shit as often as before.
                I mean the series isn't even supposed to be out yet but now we have all the episode names and the credits of the first six episodes, which list characters, songs, and even the not yet revealed release date of these episodes. That's a pretty big spoiler to me.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In a different show, I would probably agree with you, but in a show like this I really don't think it matters much. Can someone really spoil something in a show like this?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >That's a pretty big spoiler to me.
                No, it isn't, because all you know are their names. You know nothing about their stories, personalities, actions, nothing. It's just neat tidbits that can lead to conversation where there would otherwise be none

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The only recent time I've seen leaks be an active detriment to a show is SCI, and thats because the suits at WB are idiots.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >SCI
                what's that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Summer Camp Island. It's 6th and final season got delayed to 2023 at the last second because of leaks.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How did leaks make them delay it?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Valerie Breiman
        Her MML episodes are very heartwarming, so she has a good precedent.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I leaked an episode list a few days ago which was understandably met with skepticism, but in the time since then and now I got some more stuff which probably lends more credence. They've only delivered the first few episodes to the network at the moment. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/131071018/#131072643

        While I'm posting about confidential Disney materials, I might as well say the leaked Owl House S3 titles are real, but "Thanks to Them" may actually be called "Thanks to Her". The metadata is different in different systems.

        WHAT DOES THE MOM LOOK LIKE

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I leaked an episode list a few days ago which was understandably met with skepticism, but in the time since then and now I got some more stuff which probably lends more credence. They've only delivered the first few episodes to the network at the moment. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/131071018/#131072643

        While I'm posting about confidential Disney materials, I might as well say the leaked Owl House S3 titles are real, but "Thanks to Them" may actually be called "Thanks to Her". The metadata is different in different systems.

        https://tmpfiles.org/dl/312466/hg.zip

        you're doing god's work, anon. is there anything you can leak about unannounced shows?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I leaked an episode list a few days ago which was understandably met with skepticism, but in the time since then and now I got some more stuff which probably lends more credence. They've only delivered the first few episodes to the network at the moment. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/131071018/#131072643

        While I'm posting about confidential Disney materials, I might as well say the leaked Owl House S3 titles are real, but "Thanks to Them" may actually be called "Thanks to Her". The metadata is different in different systems.

        https://tmpfiles.org/dl/312466/hg.zip

        Can you mention if Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur is also slated for August 12?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Metadata says MG&DD was supposed to premiere at the start of this month. It was likely pushed back.
          Also, there'll be a Hamster & Gretel soundtrack released on August 12th, apparently.

          Since you mentioned owl house do you have anything from that show?

          a few docs + new trip for when I feel like leaking stuff for larp-proofing: https://litter.catbox.moe/uk3pn7.zip

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Neat, I was hoping there would be stuff for the season 3 specials but these are cool too. Do you have anything for Molly Mcgee S2?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They haven't been delivered to the network yet, so there's not much I can access about them. Access controls for in-depth info on in-progress productions are usually pretty tightly restricted to those working directly on them. Many TVA productions at the moment seem to be on pretty intense time crunches and are delivered very close to their airdate.
              Molly McGee Season 2, however, I can give you titles of. These are in production order but air order could be different. It has no specific dates set except 2023.

              >The New (Para)normal
              >Book Marks The Sprite/Double, Double, Darryl & Trouble
              >Faint Of Art/A Soda To Remember
              >A Period Piece/It's Always Sunny In Sunnyland
              >A Doll To Die For/The (After)life Of The Party
              >I Wanna Dance With Some-Ollie/Davenport's On Demand
              >Like Father Like Libby/Dance Dad Revolution
              >Frightmare On Main Street
              >White Christmess/Perfect Day
              >Jinx!/The Unhaunting Of Brighton Video
              >All Shark No Bite/Nin-Dependence
              >The Ghost Is Molly Mcgee/All In The Mind
              >Let's Play Turnipball!/100% Molly Mcgee
              >Carbon Zero Heroes/Davenports In Demise
              >Web Of Lies/Kenny's Falling Star
              >Welcome To Necrocomic-Con/Fit To Print
              >Smile Valley Farm/The Grand Gesture
              >The Many Lives Of Scratch/Alaka-Sham!
              >F.o.n.a.a.!/Game On
              >Jinx Vs. The Human World

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hot damn. These seem pretty fricking believable and would’ve taken a lot of creativity and effort to falsify.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So what's your deal? You work on the scheduling or something?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Something like that. Plenty of third parties working for companies that work for Disney and contractors have access to the info I'm posting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Are you the same anon who leaked background images from future episodes not long ago?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                AFAIK those all came from a specific artist who gave out the password to their NDA portfolio page (which contained those Owl House and Amphibia backgrounds) to someone posing as a recruiter who then leaked its contents.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wow. That’s pretty devious but I respect the hustle.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Assuming it’ll make it to 2023…

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why wouldn’t it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Superhero show
      >Dan Povenmire

      They definitely aren’t going skip Doof.
      They should at least let the show find its identity first before shoehorning him in.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Doof's wearing the PLATUPUS CONTROLLING ME helmet
      neat.

      Doof wasn't in the credits I had so I was holding out hope he wouldn't be in it at all, but I guess Danny boy can't help but include his self insert. I haven't seen any episodes, I just have documents.

      >Superhero show
      >Dan Povenmire

      They definitely aren’t going skip Doof.
      They should at least let the show find its identity first before shoehorning him in.

      so none of you remember, huh

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is that Doofenshmirtz in the back?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >The cover alone has more soul than all the transsexual tumblr shit we've been getting for 10 years

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >t.shill

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >t.ranssexual

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i'm hoping good porn of the skeleton Raven villain and onion lady

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody's gonna watch this. Not even the e-girlcons.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gretel can defeat Omni-Man and Homelander

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the Cast:
    Meli Povenmire as Gretel Grant-Gomez
    Michael Cimino as Kevin Grant-Gomez
    Beck Bennett as Hamster
    Joey King as Fred
    Matt Jones as Dave Grant-Gomez
    Carolina Ravassa as Carolina Grant-Gomez
    Jenny Lorenzo as Abuela

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >girl voice sounds off because nepotism

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        IMAGINE MY SHOCK

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        yeah i lost a little respect for him because of that like how swampy did nepotism for django in pnf and also casted his son in pete the cat

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Luckily it backfired for him in P&F and Buford and Baljeet were much better tritagonists than Django could ever be.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The girl wasn't even a teen when she began doing the voice. I will say please don't go attacking the girl or anything (it's not her fault she has the voice she does).
        https://www.instagram.com/p/CNoFRP7gpOb/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I will say it's ironic people thought it was a 40 year old woman doing the voice before we got the credits.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >they/them
          >gay

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So it’s a troony?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the dad is voiced by fricking Badger
      Don't know how I feel about this

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Matt has worked on Disney since Kick Buttowski or before

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm aware of that. I just wouldn't ever expect him to play a dad character, even if he's supposed to be the "easygoing" type in this new show's case. It's gonna be interesting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >girl voice sounds off because nepotism

      We could have had a proper dicky voice actress now I have to raise the pitch of her voice and only her voice before I can watch this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The director of Deer Hunter is voicing the male lead?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a fan of both MMl and PnF, but don't feel any hype for this series. I will probably only watch it if certain aliens from PnF make a cameo, which I have doubts on.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He's in.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      he has a body now and 5 o clock shadow

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Another show where there will be references to Phineas and Ferb every three episodes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I want Gretel and Isabella to have hot sweaty lesbian sex.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >sexy villainesses
    I will now watch your television programme.

    • 2 years ago
      truteal

      But which one will have the secret identity with a crush on the brother

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    so many whites, weird for a Disney show.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah look at all those cheap parody villains. You know I might actually watch this show JUST for the villains

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Even if they all look like DALL·E mini results of "campy comedy villains in P&F/MML style"

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ill watch this for the blonde e-girl but i dont have high hopes for this show especially since they cancelled owl house in favor of this shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >since they cancelled owl house in favor of this shit
      Why do people keep saying this? It was green lit back when Owl House was barely in it's first season.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do people keep saying this?
        It's their pathetic cope now that their favorite garbage show is canceled, they look for a scapegoat to blame it all on. If you check on Twitter DTVA promoting anything new that isn't owl house, those schizos are there screaming about giving that show more episodes, as if that will do anything.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's like they took the wrong notes from the Kim Possible fan campaign.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I can't wait for the endless scapegoating and seething from Owl Turds.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Go to the tweet of DisneyAPromos of the first look screencap the best and post it here, i want to laugh

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    30 episodes in season 1, the same amount as Big City Greens. Disney is definitely positioning it to be the next BCG

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >30 episodes in season 1
      Where are y'all getting this information?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dan's tik tok

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, alright then. Kind of weird that they'd do that seeing as even Big City Greens was whittled down to standard 20-episode orders for Seasons 3 and 4. I wonder what determines when these rare cases occur.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The P&F gay must suck exec wiener really well

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I wonder what determines when these rare cases occur.
            The P&F style probably makes the show cheaper to make than something like Molly Mcgee. They also trust the showrunner given his track record.
            Granted, Milo's Murphy Law was a flop, but that also premiered on an era where so many other Disney shows were more interesting than it. This show is debuting in the new era of episodic cartoons, and it could be among the better ones they have, at least for little kids.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Kind of weird that they'd do that seeing as even Big City Greens was whittled down to standard 20-episode orders for Seasons 3 and 4.
            No, only S3 that has 20 eps, S4 will have the same eps order as the first two seasons has, S3's case is that, they reduced to 20 because the series crew started their work on the film planned for Disney+.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Industry vets are going back to pure comedy cartoons
    >New talent gets treated like old dishrags; wrung out and thrown out
    >Loreshit gets mogged by Big City Sneeds, Cuck of the Creek, Summer gay's Island, The Incest House and Spongebob ZombiePants
    Lorebros... Is it over?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Craig of the Creek
      >Not having Developing Storylines
      >Molly McGee
      >Not fully transitioned into the "Andrea is sad" show

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that's just the death of american serialized animation, again

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This! Why are people celebrating the death of serialization?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          lore sucks I just want to see funny characters do funny things not get invested in an entire story

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I don't really get it much either. There should be room enough for both kind of shows.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            American animation execs are not dedicated enough to the art, they want something they can cancel immediately when things get rough, which is where American TV animation is now.
            This business doesn't make money anymore, serialized or episodic it doesn't matter. If you want to eat, you make shit for toddlers.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >American animation execs are not dedicated enough to the art, they want something they can cancel immediately when things get rough, which is where American TV animation is now.
              It's the 2000s all over again.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                animation execs are not dedicated enough to the art, they want something they can cancel immediately when things get rough, which is where American TV animation is now.
                >It's the 2000s all over again.
                Also known as the Golden Age. At least when shows are cancelled easily, new shows can come up.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                2000s was a dark age

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Contrarianism

            I thought Cinemaphile loved lore shows this is ridiculous

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Contrarianism

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Correction: It's only dying in DTVA.
          And honestly, it's for the best. After Owl House, we need a full break until they can hire an actual competent showrunner, not an angry schizo who goes to cry on Reddit whenever Disney doesn't comply to her insane demands.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Anime has been doing serialization it for decades, no one else really wants to bother doing it anymore.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The thing with anime is that once it's done, it's done. There's no staying power beyond it: no reboots, no remakes, no re-imaginings, nothing. At least with Disney and Nick shows (and CN to an extent), you have IPs with a built-in audience where new talent can take a crack putting a fresh coat of paint in a new old show.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Tell that to Sailor Moon, HunterxHunter, and Fruits Basket.

              2000s was a dark age

              And Phineas and Ferb managed to be one of the good things that came out of it, which wasn't a high bar to begin with.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                PnF was one of the dark age shows

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >no reboots, no remakes, no re-imaginings, nothing
              This homie has clearly never seen the yearly Precure and 3~ year Pokemon generations

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >The thing with anime is that once it's done, it's done. There's no staying power beyond it: no reboots, no remakes, no re-imaginings, nothing.
              Imagine trying to spin this as a bad thing. Fricking moron probably uniroically soifaces at Disney raping old IPs for a profit off nostalgia. Did you pre-order your Lightyear tickets yet, big boy?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This. This whole w threads is full of Mouseketeers; there needs to be a board for Disney shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He's just plain wrong about anime; there have been plenty of reboots, remakes, and reimaginings in anime. Just last year we had a Shaman King reboot and a relaunch of Urusei Yatsura was announced for this year.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Because that isn't Western animations bread and butter. It tried to ape the 1000 episode styles of Once Piece, Bleach and Naruto that US execs forgot where the money was. The global audience wants episodic shows from the West, and catering to weaboos is not it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It was alright, but then you had people like Hirsch and Sugar cliquing together and attempting to come off as larger than life people when in reality they're just semi-talented spergs who had a great crew helping them capture that lightning in a bottle. Once they go out on their own, they get exposed.

          It's fricking crazy how badly Hirsch and Ward in particular fell out of relevance. These are the guys that set the trend, now one had a disaster of a "cartoon" that got cancelled and the other got relegated to voice actor work on a show full of people who now hate him.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >but then you had people like Hirsch and Sugar cliquing together and attempting to come off as larger than life people when in reality they're just semi-talented spergs who had a great crew helping them capture that lightning in a bottle
            meanwhile you have people like Lauren Faust who are actually talented and keep trying to pitch guaranteed successes but keep getting turned down. In Lauren's case it sucks most because her stuff usually gets picked up but for one reason or another it's cancelled.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And Lauren Faust is a big advocate for girl-focused cartoon, don't forget

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And Lauren Faust is a big advocate for girl-focused cartoon, don't forget

              One season and she left.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Inside job got renewed, dumbass.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I think anon was talking about Midnight Gospel.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Hirsch has his own show in development and is still a producer on Inside Job.
              Sugar has literally just been chilling after SU:F.

              The only actual flop here is Ward.

              Hirsch helped Inside Job, but the actual showrunner and writer is someone else, you can’t credit him for that. And his Netflix project is totally dead.
              That said, I don’t think Alex has lost too much popularity, he keeps playing the GF card too much and has many friends in the industry. But he has lost a chance to be even bigger if he had a show come before this long gap between years.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Hirsch has his own show in development and is still a producer on Inside Job.
            Sugar has literally just been chilling after SU:F.

            The only actual flop here is Ward.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Hirsch has his own show in development
              Yeah, sure

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I mean even Ward managed to create a total of three shows, even if they couldn't match up to AT. He, McHale and Quintel are one of the few modern age animators to avoid the one hit wonder curse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Told you all he would be the beginning of the end.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone noticed that Dan seems to hang around young women a lot?

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hope it's not the quantity over quality approach.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    As long as the animation doesn't feel as limited as it did in the pilot's cold open, it should be alright.

    I don't remember The Beak looking this off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSyxZkHtkj0

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why does Gretel sound 30?

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    lol at Doofenshmirtz in the background.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guess nobody is interested in her.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even know her face and I already want to lewd her.

    What the frick is wrong with me.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Everything

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hope The Beak references.

    >He's strong enough to move a mountain, you're pretty weak
    >(Seriously, what d'you bench?)
    >You really are pretty lame compared to The Beak

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is this from 2008

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This is exactly why I hate Kim Possible

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Bruh what the frick?

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not going to lie, I've actually straight up told Tom Kenny to die straight to his face because he annoyed me. If he died I would not be sad.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >If I couldn't stand these politically correct protagonists I wasn't going to tolerate them just to see the villains who are destined to lose against Kim and Ron.
    I've often had fantasies of the villains torturing and killing Kim and Ron. I hated them that much.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This. Why do morons keep commissioning that shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      because parents use TV to babysit their kids, so why not give them what they need? I don't like toddlershit either, out of all modern shows, the original Blue's Clues was the only one I liked.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Blue's Clues needs to die. Toddler shot is cancer and shouldn't be allowed to exist.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This. Why do people not realize how cancerous KP was?

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    lmao

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why did mods delete those posts? Are they seriously shilling for toddler shit?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It'll be a hit with actual kids who will keep the channel alive instead of fat autistic girls who will retweet about it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kids don't watch cartoons. Why do you think they've been aiming for mature audiences?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do you think they've been aiming for mature audiences?
        homie literally every network has skewed more towards toddlers and younger kids in the past 5~ years because older kids just watch anime and twitch streamers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >because older kids just watch anime and twitch streamers
          Because channels do a shit job of promoting their mature shows like Amphibia and Owl House.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >owl house and Amphibia
            >mature
            found the industrycuck

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      putting Disney Channel on life support is part of the problem

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    seems like a pretty generic kids show judging by the sneak peek

    I'll wait till we get actual episodes before I can give it any real judgement

    But if Doof is in this will this be before P&F or After Milo Murphy

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This is why Kim Possible and Powerpuff Girls failed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      KP and PPG had the e-girlcon audience

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kim was a high school student

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Girls are admittedly way more willing to look at things with boy protagonists than boys are willing to accept girl protagonists. I was talking with a book/comic exec earlier this week who said the same thing.

    The executive also told me that they're actually looking to get back into making more projects with boy protagonists. This is because girls have become somewhat oversaturated in recent years and boys are now an undertapped market in traditional non-internet media.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Neat.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Of course, there is no negative stigma against girls. Girls can do anything in fact when grown women happily become child molesters nothing bad happens to them. The Female Sex is the most privileged thing on Earth and I mean being born female. You were born female your reality and living experience is a cushy easy mode where everything awful that you do becomes excused and tolerated and rarely will you ever endure a punishment. So of course there's no stigma for lesser things like a girl getting into male media and later on ruining male hobbies.

      But I do agree that boys should NOT look at media that for example has female protagonists. It will lie to them because such media presents women as everything they have never been. And I think lies about the female sex need to die.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe if those things with female protagonists weren't shit. I think the horror genre is an example of that where there's many classic critically acclaimed-works with female protagonists that are still loved.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We need cute girls

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Thats hot.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Will the show have soul?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kevin's soles

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Dan Povenmire show
    >Phineas & Ferb season 1
    >Phineas & Ferb season 2
    >Phineas & Ferb Season 3
    >Phineas & Ferb Season 4
    >Milo Murphy's Law Season 1
    >Phineas & Ferb Season 5 (guest starring Milo Murphy's Law)
    >Hamster & Gretel Season 1
    >Phineas & Ferb Season 6 (guest starring Hamster & Gretel)
    Screencap this, it's pretty much confirmed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >implying the first season won't be PnF season 6.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No, because the first season will try and fail to stand by itself and hope to god it gets popular. When it inevitably fails, they'll try to prop it up by bringing in Phineas and Ferb characters.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yup, I’m buying tickets to Povenmire’s downfall.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How much incest porn will this get?

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t like gretels voice it’s too generic

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >It's in the same universe as his other two shows for Disney TVA.
    >The intro will be previewed at Disney Channel's SDCC 2022 panel.
    Easter eggs to his previous shows will be there
    >The aliens will be part of a serious story arc
    >Season 1 will be 30 half hours

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >people were complaining about lore shows getting cancelled
      >H&G turned out to have lore

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's probably going to be minuscule similar to MML

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which itself was minuscule compared to PnF.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Really? I'm pretty sure that Milo has more lore than PnF, unless you count Dr. Doofenshmirtz's multiple backstories

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is up with all the H&G hate?

    Not this shows fault that it got owl and frog show cancelled. One was suppose to end with 3 seasons while the other didn’t do as good as they hoped.
    Fandoms always gotta blame other things for their shows getting canned quickly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Admittedly people do genuinely find it bland and uninteresting outside of fandom drama. But really, the blame game is the result of people not knowing how television production works and not googling shit. There are people to this day who think PnF got Kim Possible cancelled and that EEnE was cancelled to make room for Regular Show.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >But really, the blame game is the result of people not knowing how television production works and not googling shit
        Yep. H&G was greenlit and in early development before TOH S1 even started airing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Personally I'm just sadden by how Dan's work since Phineas and Ferb has deteriorated. I've noticed this since Milo Murphy's Law, and only now many people have noticed as well

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dan and Swampy were never good. I don't the praise for such a mediocre show like PnF.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People are dumb.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Of course Doof is coming back. He's literally got the glue on his hands that's holding all of Dan and Swampy's shows and careers together.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Along with records on his fingers

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    oh boy i cannot wait for this show to suck as well and they have to put Doof in it because Dan and Swampy cannot make another character just as good.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Doof
      >good

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cavendish and Dakota were good contestants

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    10

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      never!

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