Obviously good for the people making money of it, but for the early adopters? Debatable, to attract a larger audience it is basically a foregone conclusion that something will have to change, and we can see historically that the consequence is usually blandness and a dilution of the "essence" of what made it attractive to those initial adopters in the first place.
>something will have to change
no. You're making the same mistake as an ignorant studio head or executive: why isn't this book we've bought the rights for a best seller? We want our movie to be a mega-hit but the original wasn't a mega hit. We need to RADICALLY CHANGE the source material!
This is fricking hogwash. The reason the original wasn't popular was not SOLD well. Anything, from pet rocks to lawn darts can be sold effectively. The product does not matter. The same with cultures, hobbies, and subcultures. If someone with tons of money and a sales plan wanted, they could make building model WWI biplanes INSANELY popular to the point where everyone in your culture would think you were a dangerous nut if you didn't have at least one WWI model biplane somewhere in your house. >blandness and dilution
this was the comics code authority, where publishers felt they had to save comics from a short-lived moral panic hysteria against comics. The result was AWFUL and comics have only started to recover after US comic publishers finally agreed to ignore the CCA to compete with franco-belgian and manga. It had nothing to do with trying to sell more comics to more people, it had everything to do with satisfying congress people and angry mothers that don't read or care about comics. They were trying to stop the bleeding and have never (even to this day I argue) seriously attempted to 'sell' comics to larger audiences. At most they occasionally attempt to sell to movie studios who then go on to try to sell the idea to the public, but Marvel/DC and even the big Indie brands still don't give a flying shit about making comics 'good' for anyone but a niche audience which they also tend to take for granted or intentionally piss off in deranged assumption that notoriety would entice collectors.
US comics, for what they're worth, could benefit heavily from a larger general audience that cares more about stories than 'comic nerds' that only want references or the same old.
normies have dropped pen and paper rpg years ago, when famous streamers started to make podcasts games and they didn't need all that nerd math anymore to feel "into it"
Spawn #1 sold 1.7 million copies back in 1992. As per Comichron, it's the 8th best selling issue of 1992, meaning 7 other comic issues sold more copies than that.
As per Comichron as well, the best selling issue of 2019 was Detective Comics #1000, and it sold about half a million issues.
More fans of the characters has not translated into more sales of comic books. There's more money coming in from merch and movies, but trying to appeal to a wider audience has failed horribly for comics themselves. It's been good for DC and Marvel in terms of money, but it hasn't helped comics any.
This is true, gatekeeping is not a real thing because these people have never had the power to keep people out in the first place. It is just a way of newbies to feel persecuted for receiving a slightly cold shoulder.
>most everyone on the right are dicking around and treating the game like social hour >only the person in a leather jacket with the rainbow flag actually has his hand on a piece >and the guy he's trying to play with is just fricking around with his hand-puppet instead of playing >the two guys on the left are actually playing the game
It's always funny when someone tries to make a statement against something, and ends up showing exactly why it's a good thing.
It's not a handpuppet. he's admiring the paint job on his opponent's tyranid. I can tell it's his opponent's tyranid, because the opponent is wearing the pride flag with the transgender black people chevron, and all tyranid players are girls.
For comics itself and not the IP's a whole, frick no.
Mostly because the "larger fanbase" didn't and still don't read comics. Most people just settle for the memes.
If only they were content with enjoying a hobby and leaving us alone. Their goal, and it's not hidden, they say it openly is that we don't have a hobby to enjoy that don't fit in their political schemes.
Every woman I met who actually played 40k was the kind of nerd girl that scares everyone with her power level and lack of bathing. A female grognard, or a girlgnard if you will. Women who aren’t like this won’t sink the time and money into assembling and painting their minis.
Gatekeeping is moronic. I prefer to be a tour guide, or a host even.
If someone is new to comics, or wants to get into them, if I can lead them to a series they'll like, then I can get a new person reading comics without them bumbling through shit that's not for them. If you can point them to the right place, then they won't try to struggle through Batman and later complain about it on twitter.
Misleading dishonest question in order to stir up shit. Comics don't have a "larger fanbase". The largest fanbase comics ever had was in the 1940s and 50s when they were everywhere and read by everybody of every age. What they currently have is an insular niche fanbase that the companies in charge attempt to switch to a different insular niche fanbase.
Are you making a fat joke?
its bait imported from /tg/. if this board is any smarter than them they'll ignore it
Obviously good for the people making money of it, but for the early adopters? Debatable, to attract a larger audience it is basically a foregone conclusion that something will have to change, and we can see historically that the consequence is usually blandness and a dilution of the "essence" of what made it attractive to those initial adopters in the first place.
>something will have to change
no. You're making the same mistake as an ignorant studio head or executive: why isn't this book we've bought the rights for a best seller? We want our movie to be a mega-hit but the original wasn't a mega hit. We need to RADICALLY CHANGE the source material!
This is fricking hogwash. The reason the original wasn't popular was not SOLD well. Anything, from pet rocks to lawn darts can be sold effectively. The product does not matter. The same with cultures, hobbies, and subcultures. If someone with tons of money and a sales plan wanted, they could make building model WWI biplanes INSANELY popular to the point where everyone in your culture would think you were a dangerous nut if you didn't have at least one WWI model biplane somewhere in your house.
>blandness and dilution
this was the comics code authority, where publishers felt they had to save comics from a short-lived moral panic hysteria against comics. The result was AWFUL and comics have only started to recover after US comic publishers finally agreed to ignore the CCA to compete with franco-belgian and manga. It had nothing to do with trying to sell more comics to more people, it had everything to do with satisfying congress people and angry mothers that don't read or care about comics. They were trying to stop the bleeding and have never (even to this day I argue) seriously attempted to 'sell' comics to larger audiences. At most they occasionally attempt to sell to movie studios who then go on to try to sell the idea to the public, but Marvel/DC and even the big Indie brands still don't give a flying shit about making comics 'good' for anyone but a niche audience which they also tend to take for granted or intentionally piss off in deranged assumption that notoriety would entice collectors.
US comics, for what they're worth, could benefit heavily from a larger general audience that cares more about stories than 'comic nerds' that only want references or the same old.
normies have dropped pen and paper rpg years ago, when famous streamers started to make podcasts games and they didn't need all that nerd math anymore to feel "into it"
Spawn #1 sold 1.7 million copies back in 1992. As per Comichron, it's the 8th best selling issue of 1992, meaning 7 other comic issues sold more copies than that.
As per Comichron as well, the best selling issue of 2019 was Detective Comics #1000, and it sold about half a million issues.
More fans of the characters has not translated into more sales of comic books. There's more money coming in from merch and movies, but trying to appeal to a wider audience has failed horribly for comics themselves. It's been good for DC and Marvel in terms of money, but it hasn't helped comics any.
This comic doesnt make any sense, you can play DND however you want.
This is true, gatekeeping is not a real thing because these people have never had the power to keep people out in the first place. It is just a way of newbies to feel persecuted for receiving a slightly cold shoulder.
>playing with friends
>some randos butt in your play
>yOu HaVe To LeT uS pLAy CuZ wE aRe DiSabLeD anD SHit!1!!
lmao libgays
>most everyone on the right are dicking around and treating the game like social hour
>only the person in a leather jacket with the rainbow flag actually has his hand on a piece
>and the guy he's trying to play with is just fricking around with his hand-puppet instead of playing
>the two guys on the left are actually playing the game
It's always funny when someone tries to make a statement against something, and ends up showing exactly why it's a good thing.
It's not a handpuppet. he's admiring the paint job on his opponent's tyranid. I can tell it's his opponent's tyranid, because the opponent is wearing the pride flag with the transgender black people chevron, and all tyranid players are girls.
>Tyranids
Why do women love them so much?
>not male dominated or heavily sexualized
>oviposition/infestation fetish
one or the other, idk
No lore.
Animals=cute.
>No lore.
I think it would be more fair to say 'lore light'
They are a galaxy hivemind that may or may not be more unstoppable than even chaos
For comics itself and not the IP's a whole, frick no.
Mostly because the "larger fanbase" didn't and still don't read comics. Most people just settle for the memes.
If only they were content with enjoying a hobby and leaving us alone. Their goal, and it's not hidden, they say it openly is that we don't have a hobby to enjoy that don't fit in their political schemes.
Every woman I met who actually played 40k was the kind of nerd girl that scares everyone with her power level and lack of bathing. A female grognard, or a girlgnard if you will. Women who aren’t like this won’t sink the time and money into assembling and painting their minis.
>A female grognard, or a girlgnard if you will
A legbeard
>Comics
>Larger fanbase
Lmao
Gatekeeping is moronic. I prefer to be a tour guide, or a host even.
If someone is new to comics, or wants to get into them, if I can lead them to a series they'll like, then I can get a new person reading comics without them bumbling through shit that's not for them. If you can point them to the right place, then they won't try to struggle through Batman and later complain about it on twitter.
Are you israeli by any chance?
White, heterosexual man raised christian. Sorry about whatever narrative you were concocting.
Why is Lou Albano in the background and why isn't everybody partying with him?
Misleading dishonest question in order to stir up shit. Comics don't have a "larger fanbase". The largest fanbase comics ever had was in the 1940s and 50s when they were everywhere and read by everybody of every age. What they currently have is an insular niche fanbase that the companies in charge attempt to switch to a different insular niche fanbase.