Has any documentary aged as badly as this one?

Yes there was you braindead frick. there were bells put on doors, there's all this media of him being with kids like pics and vids, we know he slept with them. That's all evidence. may not be solid proof but most cases of child molestation like that often don't have a lot of solid proof. There is certainly plenty of evidence though

>MJ had the best legal team money could buy and it put in more manhours into the case
Why does that matter when MJ's legal team didn't even have to do anything?
Did they force the state's witnesses to perjure themselves?

Anon we're talking about the child abuse allegations, stay on topic

Those are only evidence when completely ignoring their context.
>bells put on doors
The "alarm system" was put there after the accusations, because the people that worked for him were paid by Victor Gutierez, a known pedophile and member of NAMBLA, to lie about him raping children (which they all later admitted to the lies) because he was driven paranoid by the biggest slandering in human history. The alarms were all over the fricking house, not just his room. By that point he had stopped bringing families to the house because of the two trials.
>him being with kids
Really? So everyone that works at a children's hospital is evidencing pedophilia?
What about the fact that most of those kids were sick and or dying, which was his whole thing, to help children.
Or that there were tons of female children there too, but everyone says it's only evidence that he molested little boys? If anything this is evidence that his lynching was part of the narrative trying to associate pedophilia with homossexuality.
>he slept with them
Huge loaded statement.
He slept in the same room with them ALONG with their parents and siblings. He never once slept alone in the same room with another kid that wasn't his.

I did the research dude. Why are you lying. You’re behavior is very israeli

And all of it was heterosexual +18 porn. I ask again, why are you lying? This is VERY israeli behavior

There was tons of girls in there, the fact that you think it was only boys shows either how effective the media campaign was, since they wanted to associate pedophilia with homosexuality, or that you yourself is consciously trying to peddle that falsehood.
Not only were girls in the sleepovers but also their parents. He was never alone with a child.

Nicole Richie, daughter of Lionel Richie
>“Nicole, in particular, supported Jackson against the charges of improper sexual behavior with children. To that end, she offered tales of her own childhood romps at Jackson’s Neverland Ranch, during which she often slept in Jackson’s bedroom. “You know, a group of us would all sleep in the same room,” she said. “It was like, absolutely nothing more than just…an adult kind of wanting to be a kid again. Just, you know, enjoying the company of children. I grew up with him. I have spent many evenings there and many days there.” Noting that she could “only speak for myself,” she still added “that absolutely nothing went on.”
>Nicole also said that she wouldn’t have held her tongue had Jackson tried anything with her. “I’m not a quiet person,” she said. “If there was something going on, I’d be like ‘who are you?’… and I’d tell my parents. But my parents would never put me in hands that they thought were dangerous. I never had any complaints, and you know, I love him.”

Post evidence

Why are you ignoring Arvizo (the boy IN the fricking video)'s testimony?

>believe all victims!
>unless they say something that goes against our narrative, then ignore the victim!

Fricking fake, there are 4 accusers.
AND THE SISTER OF ONE OF THESE ACCUSERS WAS ONE THE KIDS ALWAYS PRESENT IN THERE.
The sister of Wade Robson.
The girlfriend of Wade Robson.
The sister of Brett Barnes.
Nicole Richie.
Dakota Culkin.
These are just a few directly linked to the accusations.
There was a huge group in the 90's and early 2000's of girls that called themselves the Invisible Children and defended MJ. They called themselves that because the media completely erased their presence in MJ's life to peddle the narrative that pedos were homos.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-invisible-children-michael-jackson%C2%92s-female-kid-friends.284727/

I accept your concession.

I know about his collection of straight 18+ pornography. What about it?

Yeah for grooming, you sick homosexual frick.

Thousands lol

Jackson literally admitted to sharing his bed with children in the Bashir documentary

Thought they just slept in the same room? And his bedroom was the size of a normal person's house apparently.

I'm not saying he was right to do that, I'm just saying it wasn't the same bed. Obviously a grown man hanging out with a bunch of children is being irresponsible.

>believe all victims!
>unless they say something that goes against our narrative, then ignore the victim!

Anon MJ's bedroom was fricking huge, multiple families would sleep in there together.

He repeatedly raped Corey Feldman ;(nb4 Corey says he didn't because...
>be Corey Feldman
>notoriously the most egotistical little shit in 80s Hollywood
>the most famous person on the planet tells you how special and great you are
>molests you repeatedly
>grow up to become a complete joke
>emulate that person over and over as a cope (even in 2022)
>can't reconcile the fact he made you feel special with the idea he just wanted to molest you
>tell the world over and over you were molested (but not by him)
He molested Corey Feldman. For years. Corey wants to believe his relationship was one of mutual talents--he can't reconcile that with the fact Michael just wanted his boipussy.
>

>Cory Feldman got raped by him.
>The guy who has made it his personal crusade to go after Hollywood's pedo issue who also says MJ never touched him.
>Is just sad cuz MJ made him feel special and he doesn't want to admit that MJ touched him
Your mental gymnastics don't make it true.

t. paranoid schizophrenic

LOL, diagnosis confirmed. You need professional help and heavy, heavy medication before you do severe damage to yourself and others.

you are, and this guy

LOL, diagnosis confirmed. You need professional help and heavy, heavy medication before you do severe damage to yourself and others.

>it's just art!
It wasn't art, moron. It was multiple stashes of straight pornography alongside magazines like Tiger Beat/Teen Beat that market sex to tweens and teenagers (as well as other books like the one I mentioned which were literally prepubescent kids). The investigators found it specifically because the kids said it was there and told them what they'd find.

You're a moron.

Absolutely fake. He had a massive library, not a "STASH", which was composed of over A TEN THOUSAND books. In it there was TWO playboys and TWO books with pictures of teenagers taking baths in a lake, which he didn't even buy, it was gifted to him by a fan, with a written dedicatory on the inside.

So who's the moron now?

Those only had straight porn magazines that every man had, my father had the same shit.

fake and gay moron

He didn't show them anything.
The Arvizo brothers claimed they were shown issues, but it was proven all those issues found were published AFTER their stay in there, making their claims literally impossible to have occurred.
Multiple children have said that MJ wouldn't even allow swearing in his house and was super straight edge and prudent, against these two children that said he was showing them porn. The same children whose mother was recorded lying on camera because she was too fricking stupid to know the camera was rolling. The same people whose all accounts were proven fake by Neverland security cameras, showing them wandering the park when they claimed they were alone with MJ in his house, when MJ wasn't even present in Neverland.
You are WAY out of your depth.

>everyone who disagrees with me is a paranoid schizophrenic!

>just me
you have called at least 2 people in this thread a paranoid schizophrenic... wait don't tell me everyone else in this thread is actually the same person samegayging right? just you and me no one else in this thread right?

it's always the way, as soon as they start to feel like they are 'losing' an argument they lash out, everyone is mentally ill, everyone is the same person, everyone is a shill etc etc

You're conflating a number of posters, anon. Another symptom of your mental illness, I'm afraid.

>just me
you have called at least 2 people in this thread a paranoid schizophrenic... wait don't tell me everyone else in this thread is actually the same person samegayging right? just you and me no one else in this thread right?

Seriously, get help. There's obviously something deeply, deeply wrong with you.

Who's the schizo? Re

>You're conflating a number of posters, anon. Another symptom of your mental illness, I'm afraid.
[...] [...] [...] [...]
What were you saying about conflating a number of posters as the same person? Wait for the pic in the next post. Good thing for you I'm not a moron and won't fall back on the idea that someone being confused (i.e. actually you) on an anonymous message board means I won an argument. You're a moron.

Seriously, get help. There's obviously something deeply, deeply wrong with you.

What pattern? Exactly one person took Michael Jackson to court to accuse him of molesting him.

What material, dumbass? If you're talking about the magazines, they were ruled as non admissible as evidence in court.

Yeah, it's amazing what a good team of lawyers can do during discovery--isn't it? Still were part of the investigation and still part of the pattern.

fake and gay moron

>it's not real!!!
Research it. Simple as.

>Yeah, it's amazing what a good team of lawyers can do during discovery
homie what? You think it takes a team of legal experts to make the outrageous claim that 'owning porn mags' isn't evidence of RAPING ACTUAL CHILDREN?
I could have told you that, as could literally everybody else with two brain cells to rub together. The prosecution only brought that shit because they were grasping at straws for anything they could pin, and they found fricking nothing in the way of evidence.

>dancing around saying the child porn line because you know it's pitifully easy to debunk these days
lol
lmao
lol

>sexualized images of adolescents as well as prepubescent children
More lies then?

I think he's referring to Tiger Beat magazine. If this is the best "evidence" of "sexualized images of adolescents" that he can come up with, he's even more fricked in the head than any of us thought.

>He did however have hardcore magazines stored with magazines containing sexualized images of adolescents as well as prepubescent children.
So much intellectual dishonesty.
Your phrasing implies that his pornography magazines (which were Hustler, Playboys and so on, the most "hardcore one" was a BDSM book from Madonna) were stored along with the books with "sexualized images of children" (they weren't sexualized, they were legal art books and he didn't even buy them).
If you don't think this kind of disingenuous behavior isn't strange then you're moronic.

>the "it's just art" defense is the most commonly used one for actual child pornography.
That would be a zinger if it wasn't for there being actual legal definitions of cp, that 'nude art' doesn't fall into. Stop pretending it's an arbitrary distinction. Michael Jackson had absolutely nothing illegal, or even suspicious, in his possession.

>it's just art
You're the only one in this entire thread who's mentioned this, fricktard. You're wrong, you know you're wrong, and you don't have the moral decency to admit it. Very ironic.

Reply to this:

The "art" defense was used about the art photography books, which you keep conflating with the pornography, fricking idiot.
They are literally art books, and it was two books in a library of TEN THOUSAND books, and HE DIDN'T EVEN OWN THEM, IT WAS A RANDOM GIFT, with no indication that he was even accessing them, they were buried under a gigantic fricking archive.
How can you still pretend it isn't dishonest to ignore this context and to imply they were stored along with the straight pornography?

He didn't show them anything.
The Arvizo brothers claimed they were shown issues, but it was proven all those issues found were published AFTER their stay in there, making their claims literally impossible to have occurred.
Multiple children have said that MJ wouldn't even allow swearing in his house and was super straight edge and prudent, against these two children that said he was showing them porn. The same children whose mother was recorded lying on camera because she was too fricking stupid to know the camera was rolling. The same people whose all accounts were proven fake by Neverland security cameras, showing them wandering the park when they claimed they were alone with MJ in his house, when MJ wasn't even present in Neverland.
You are WAY out of your depth.

>First, the fact they knew there was a pornography store is damning.

This was before the internet age, everyone had a porn stash. Hell, I found my parents' porn stash when I was a kid. This isn't evidence of molestation.

>Yes it was.
You're denying facts so we can't have a conversation about this. If you don't stop being a disingenuous homosexual we can't have a conversation.
>he materials weren't stored together, you've been shown this many times
They were. Simple as.
>you have no morals or values or commitment to the truth
Coming from a guy whose defending an obvious pedo because he likes his media output? Not a very strong insult, anon. In this case, I'll take it as a compliment.

Also, you ignored all of the other points. You're a disingenuous moron and I hope the ghost of Michael Jackson visits your children--but I want it to be while you're there so nothing happens and you can have the realization that comes with how uncomfortable you'd be.

You know the entire trial is publically available right? I have every transcript saved right here
If what you're saying is true it would be very easy to prove it yourself, but you won't, because you can't

Yes, the pornography material was hidden from the families that were constantly in his house. YOU ACTUAL MOUTHBREATHING IDIOT.
They entered his room when MJ wasn't there and rummaged through his shit. Michael Jackson's cousin testified that he saw them finding porn channels on the television and jerking off to it, which MJ didn't believe, saying "they wouldn't do nasty things like that".
He also saw the Arvizo brothers drinking wine and stealing money from his room.
They also didn't identify hidden stashes, they found magazines on a briefcase, that's all they found.

So you were proven he didn't show them anything because it would literally be physically impossible, you don't reply to that, but then repeat that same debunked claim.
You're so pathetic.

Nothing else was stored with it. We have a list of every single thing found by the police and FBI, you cannot sustain that stupid lie.

What material, dumbass? If you're talking about the magazines, they were ruled as non admissible as evidence in court.

with kids he molested (proven untrue)
He admitted to this but characterized it as innocent.
security in his house (gasp!)
The nature of the security system moron. That's the point and you're ignoring it.
porn (double gasp)
Again, the nature of it. What other magazines were stored with it and the fact investigators had it described to them by the kids (right up to a pretty esoteric book with prepubescent children playing dress-up)
the kids the porn (proven untrue)
Wasn't proven untrue. Certain elements didn't make it past the discovery phase of the trial.

Yeah, it hasn't though. Most of the posts attempt to explain away things by describing Barely Legal as "art," refusing to acknowledge any warranted suspicion given the pattern, and confusing evidence dismissed in discovery with the idea that it never existed.

Barely legal featured 19 year old models, you've jerked off to porn with younger people in it.
You're so fricking pathetic, my man.

Also funny how all his pornographic material was straight, which directly goes against the narrative that he predated young boys.

>And yet he couldn't even stop the trial taking place
Exactly. There was enough evidence against Michael to reach the stage of an indictment. I'm glad you can admit that now. Now maybe you can work on your context skills and understand the difference between having evidence turned out of discovery isn't the same thing as the evidence not existing...

>there was enough evidence to have MJ indicted
>but I'm not convinced because a small child couldn't draw his wiener accurately enough
Are you even listening to yourself? Ffs.

His description was proven in court to not be a match, regardless of the settlement.
So what is your position, exactly?

If you get to ignore there was enough evidence for an indictment and a trial even beyond a discovery phase in which MJ's lawyers put in more man-hours than the investigators; that anon gets to point to the fact MJ settled out of court. Simple as. Stop defending pedophiles because you like "Thriller" you sick moronic homosexual.

>Barnes
You mean Robson? Barnes was the one who posted on Twitter afterwards because they named him as another victim, despite him adamantly defending Jackson at every turn

Fricking nailed it.

So you're actually saying that if you sleep on the floor and a kid sleeps on a bed in the same bedroom you're "sleeping with kids"?
Is that your position?
Not even mentioning that they weren't alone, there were other adults and other children there.

Cause there isn’t any lmao

Still no evidence

Seethe brother

OJ was innocent too. So was Jimmy Saville.

So you concede that there was no children porn ever found in MJ's house?
Ok, good. It would be weird if you insisted on dying on this hill that is provably false.

It's always the same loser. He's been n the PIDF for years.

The Boy is a pretty pedo book done by a convicted pedo.
If you want to talk about facts in good faith, unlike this moron here

>So you concede that there was no children porn
See [...]. Frick, you buttholes suck at debating. You're too fricking dumb.

then we can do it.
The Boy and Boys Will be Boys were found in MJ's library. His library had tens of thousands of books archived, those were the only two remotely damning books. They weren't his books, a fan gave it to him, he then stored them and it didn't seem to be any evidence that he cared about them or viewed them regularly since they were buried under a massive fricking catalogue of other shit.
Unlike the dishonest mentally ill homosexual mentioned above claims, these books WERE NOT found along with his 18+ normal pornography that was in his room inside a suitcase.

Who? The only accusers that matter are Jordie Chandler, Gavin and Star Arvizo and Wade Robson and Safechuck.

Everything else is baseless shit that they weren't willing to justify in court for fear and admitted to being paid to lie to the tabloids.

>referring to the hidden stash that contained hard-core pornography alongside teen idol magazines and even a specific book with little kids playing dress-up.
Name them, provide me evidence so I can look it up. You're asking me to trust your word.

I have invistigated and came up with nothing.
So yes, I'll take it as you lying.
The fact that you keep saying he slept with little kids prove this.

Kindly provide any source for your claims