He literally did nothing wrong.

He literally did nothing wrong.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but he had sex sometimes with women, so that makes him the big bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he seems to be the only person in the Mad Max universe who canonically gets laid.
      we didn't even get a solid confirmation that Furiosa and Jack were fricking. it was ridiculous.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he seems to be the only person in the Mad Max universe who canonically gets laid.
        Mad Max had a wife and kid, so probably he got laid as well

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the present tense is key. George Miller doesn't want his characters to be happy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that was preapocalypse, doesn't count

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only if he was truly the most genetically fit male to be siring children.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but who decides that? Is leading a horde of post-apocalyptic engine mechanics not an example of selection criterion?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's best decided as who can produce the most viable fetus with the least amount of genetic defects and the best ability to subsequently reproduce itself. Anything else would be insufficient for kickstarting a new society. You can play around with trying to perfect intelligence and physical prowess later. We don't know enough about how humans' overall reproductive capabilities are faring at that point, but at the very least it took joe three tries to make a viable not moronic or crippled baby with prime breeders.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Makes sense.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Immortan Joe is a shallow cardboard cut out and the society of the Citadel makes no sense.

          if people here weren't dumb or shills they would have noticed that in Fury Road.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ummm ahkshually joe isn't a complex villain and is just window dressing for an extended car chase
            Good.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this is literally a thread about how people can't accept what you just greentexted.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And I'm one of the people ITT discussing his motives, so it would seem you're wrong.
                You can still discuss the motives and actions of one dimensional villains. Complexity doesn't make a villain good nor does it make one interesting to talk about.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gonna need an in depth character analysis of lord humungus in road warrior?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he was the leader of the citadel, he is literally the most genetically fit to be siring children

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but who decides that? Is leading a horde of post-apocalyptic engine mechanics not an example of selection criterion?

        All his children (final one notwithstanding) were genetic failures, he should have just realized this and let his healthier lieutenants breed. But all things considered it's a reasonable foible.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >let his healthier lieutenants breed
          Like who?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            all the genetically viable men, you know, the ones that should exist given that there are apparently a decent number of genetically viable women.

            oh wait, it's fricking stupid isn't it? never mind.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jack, or any non-warboy. Hell, even war boys could probably breed. They're sickly but that doesn't mean they're genetically fricked up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Furiosa implies that Nathan Jones sneaks in and rapes them when he gets chance so he may as well have let his underlings frick them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Being a leader doesn't indicate having the highest genetic fitness or reproductive fitness.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Henry VIII was a Gigachad in his youth though, he only became fat later on because the king does what the frick he wants.
          >Henry's contemporaries considered him an attractive, educated, and accomplished king. He has been described as "one of the most charismatic rulers to sit on the English throne"
          >Henry was a large, well-built athlete, over 6 feet [1.8 m] tall, strong, and broad in proportion. His athletic activities were more than pastimes; they were political devices that served multiple goals, enhancing his image, impressing foreign emissaries and rulers, and conveying his ability to suppress any rebellion.
          >Henry was an intellectual, the first English king with a modern humanist education. He read and wrote English, French, and Latin, and owned a large library. He annotated many books and published one of his own

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree, dude would've been johnny football hero if he was a kid in modern day. But for all that exterior chadliness, he still had trouble making male heirs.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sure, but that's only an issue politically and culturally. If we're just talking about reproductive fitness, having female offspring is a MUCH more likely way to ensure your genes keep getting propagated.
              That's from a purely genetic standpoint though, ignoring all the *hits pipe* stuff.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, if henry was a modern man. But having an incel son isn't really an issue for royalty. All things being equal, women can procreate only once every 9 months. Men can procreate as many times as they can bust a nut.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's not a purely modern issue. Genetic data shows that almost all women throughout history reproduced, whereas this is not the case for men. 100 years ago a daughter was a safer bet for your genes, and 1000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago, and 100,000 years ago.
                You're right that on the off chance your son is Genghis Khan and has sons by thousands of women then you're doing even better, but there's also a FAR greater risk of your line ending with a son than with a daughter.
                Again, this is ignoring all social and political factors and just talking in terms of genes. Obviously a monarch is better off having a son for a whole host of reasons. If we're just talking about reproductive fitness in a vacuum, women have more of it than men do since even a genetically inferior woman is likely to reproduce unless she actively tries not to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Undone by his own chadness. Tragic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Only "warlord" trying to rebuild civilization
      >somehow he's the bad guy
      What the frick were the Green Place people doing in comparison?

      >What the frick were the Green Place people doing in comparison?
      They used stilts to look down on people.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a fricking white male

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh he was frickin alright if you catch my drift.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Only "warlord" trying to rebuild civilization
    >somehow he's the bad guy
    What the frick were the Green Place people doing in comparison?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were proud independent women living their best lives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Furiosa taught me that there is an infinite amount of food, water and motorbike maintainance resources just randomly out there in the desert, and that raider gangs just spawn there if you leave it for long enough.

      the question is why Immortan Joe was bothering to grow food at all when apparently the wasteland is itself a biomass generator.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hoarding all the water and dispensing it via giant drains that end up wasting 90% of the water was kind of a dick move.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah, forgot about that. The waterfall thing alone would be reason enough to take him out.
      And furiosa too because her stupid ass wanted to leave the fricking thing on all the time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >her stupid ass wanted to leave the fricking thing on all the time.
        she could have left at any point she just needed to steal a vehicle using her ninja skills. it's almost as if this movie was dumb and made no sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's his water. BTW is he actually some kind of immortal mutant and that's why he's alive in both movies?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >some kind of immortal mutant
        No, he just has a rebreather, access to unlimited potable water, food and medical assistance, so him living to the ripe old age of 70 or so makes him look like an immortal compared to the wretched who maybe make it to 20.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Regardless there's thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people living at the Citadel. Whatever his system is doing is allowing those people to survive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As opposed to turning it on till it runs out at the end you fricking dumb Black person

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Them b***hes abandoned him soon as they thought they had something better guarentee if they knew the greenplace was gone in advance they’d keep quiet and breed

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he didnt frick l.oli furiosa wtf is wrong with him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huge, huge character flaw in an otherwise great man.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Promoted and enabled drug use amongst his followers is a sign of a weak leader. Other than that pretty good guy.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the new movie, but not because a female stars in it. It has no coherent narrative structure at all. I took my Dad to see it and he glared at me the whole time for bringing him to a gaudy, trash film like this lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the first half of the movie is pretty good when its just "will this kid survive".
      the moment it turns to shit is when Dementus becomes Boring Invincible Villain, with his infinite respawning army and vehicles and his ability to outsmart everyone with basic subterfuge.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    realistically, how long could the waterfall thing he controlled run before it ran out? the ending where they just turn it on now that evil had been thwarted makes it seem like it'd run forever and he was just being a dick for no reason

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's pumping water from an underground aquifer, so it could theoretically run for years, if not forever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he wasn't being a dick for no reason. he was making water scarce, making it move valuable as a resource to be sold to other factions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was pumped from an aquifer.
      We're never told how much it can store, how fast it replenishes, or what they do with it beyond the initial celebration opening.
      Maybe they left it running nonstop like morons and everyone died next year.
      Maybe they stopped letting the pumps run into the waterfall opening, rationed it, but it didn't produce enough for everyone and a few years later they're doing population control.
      Maybe there was more than enough for everyone but with all the warboys dead, the bullet farm and whatever the third one was named laid siege and took over.
      Anons laser focus on WOW STRONK WOMYN OPEN TAP AND WASTE WATER but really nobody knows what happens after that because it just isn't written, the story ends there.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how fast it replenishes
        From what? The climate is fricked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Water finds a way, it just might not be a fast way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You might get a few decades out of it. And then all the fresh water is gone. Because you wanted some scrawny worthless nothings to not be thirsty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mad Max movie
      >Especially post-Road Warrior Mad Max movie
      >realistically

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fury Road was the first one to do anything that was vaguely unrealistic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No, I didn't see Thunderdome
          You're missing out. Not the best one, but a solid watch. YMMV on the kids (I fricking hate them), but first hour or so is pure kino and could be the best MM movie if not, you know, the kids

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's unrealistic about Thunderdome?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ... just about everything that happens past the opening 15 minutes, and that's when we ignore the way how Jedediah steals the ride, too
              You really need to catch up on this movie. At the very least until Gulag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah I can't help but feel and think that you are wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let me ask you this:
                Is Waterworld realistic to you?
                Serious question and there are no wrong answers. Because this might be the breaking point here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. But Thunderdome is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Waterworld isn't realistic
                >But Thunderdome is
                Ok, so you're just contrarian for the sake of it. Thanks for sharing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You still haven't given an example of something unrealistic in Thunderdome. It's just a bunch of raiders living in a shanty town and a bunch of children living in an oasis. There's nothing fanciful about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hard to say without drilling the area around and beyond to find out.
      It's better to assume it's not infinite and keep the waterfall off always and find a better way to distribute water.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you just know the Citadel absolutely imploded a week after his death

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trusted a roasty with his tiddy milk
    Mediocre.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sjw moment

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He actually didn’t. Also, I liked how cold and calculating he was. You don’t get much of that in your post+Apocalyptic warlords.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long would it take a cave full of fat women to fill a semi-truck tankard full of tit milk? Let's ask the real questions here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A breast-feeding female produces anything between 0.5 to 1l (no idea how much that is in moronic, imperial volume measurements are like the moronic of moronic) of milk per day. Since they are fat, we can exclude being underfed, thus a steady supply.
      So the question is: how many they have, and what's the volume of a tankard?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fury Road and Furiosa never explicitly tell you Immortan Joe is a bad guy. Both movies actually show you what his reign is all about
    >bringing some sort of social order in a chaotic and violent world
    >controlling ressources and sharing them with his people
    >building an army to protect his land, ressources and people
    He's also pictured as a smart man who believe in merit and treat people in a fair way. He's the one who gave Furiosa her praetorian and imperator titles after all. Not to mention his wives are living a very comfy life considering how dangerous the outside world is.
    I'll even go as far as saying Fury Road doesn't even portray Furiosa as a good person.
    >brainwashes the wives about some green place she knew decades ago
    >doesn't even check if it still exists
    >help the wives escape and putting them in terrible danger, knowing full well Immortan Joe would go after them
    >put in danger the whole Citadel, as she knew Immortan Joe needed a healthy son in order to perpetuate his reign after him

    You just assumed he's the bad guy because you've been brainwashed by feminism too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wantomly kills people left and right
      >Oppress other people, because
      >Endangers his entire fief, because ego issues
      >FEMINISM DID THIS AGAIN!
      We literally have back-to-back thread about blatantly evil villains that "did nothing wrong"

      Also, if you want Immortan Joe done as an actual "did nothing wrong", go watch The Book of Eli. It's a mediocre movie, but it's bad guy is only bad, because he's trying to steal the book from Eli. Everything else is actual benevolent shit. But it's not titled, "Gary Oldman Rebuilds The World One Piece At A Time", so he's the bad guy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Furiosa and the wives end up going back to the Citadel because no shit thats where the water is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brainwashes the wives about some green place she knew decades ago
      the wives were actual sexslaves for a grotesque freak, locked in a cave, and destinied to become human cows if they can't give this absolute genetic failure a healthy son
      >Immortan Joe needed a healthy son in order to perpetuate his reign after him
      or you know, he could have just appointed someone based on skill

      >protect his people, bring order, etc.
      it was never properly elaborated on but it was heavily implied that he intentionally abused water scarcity to force people into submission.
      First, he was very wasteful and showy with it's rationing, implying that they didn't actually have to be so stingy with it but they chose to. Second, we have to assume that the protags weren't actual morons who would open the water taps at the end without considering the risk of wasting away the water. They must have asked someone who knows how much water they had.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Second, we have to assume that the protags weren't actual morons who would open the water taps at the end without considering the risk of wasting away the water.
        We don't. Furiosa's whole escape plan was "drive away".

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they have to make him a weird ugly freak? Would be much cooler if they made him a jacked up massive Chad like Humungus. How am I going to be able to immerse and imagine myself as the tyrant overlord of the wastelands with that ugly freak as the antagonist.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Movie should have been a rape revenge flick where Max is kidnapped for his pure genetics and gangraped by the Brides before being left to die in the desert but survives and returns to kill them all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DON'T SUCK MY wiener
      >DON'T SUCK MY wiener
      >NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The movie doesnt explain at all how the frick Dementus gang & friends managed to find enough food and gas for years in the fricking desert

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