HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honor him.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cack

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      By Juno's c**t

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Octavian btfo’ing antony is one of the best and most satisfying scenes of all time. I’ve banged 14 black women.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Octavian btfo’ing antony
        Gonna have to narrow it down there hoss

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They shall say you wear cuckolds horns; they shall say your wife betrayed you with a low-born plebe on my staff. You will be a figure of fun. The proles will laugh at you in the street. Your soldiers will mock you behind your back.
          >Go on. Strike me. See what happens.
          I'm convinced that every young Octavian fan is just a shotagay.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I understand that the point was to indicate his maturation from aspirant and idealistic youth to the cold-blooded pragmatism necessary to unite the empire, but the cast change wax particularly jarring. Especially since Pullo and Vorenus basically look the same for 50+ years.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Plus the actor didn't even look significantly older anyway, just completelt different. Also not sure why they bothered for just like, three episodes

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It was jarring, but I think that was the intended effect and also the right idea. But I also hate child actors, so I'm biased, even though young Octavian was actually good. But I couldn't see him projecting the same kind of youthful confidence I got from old Octavian. I don't know, it was like that actor was too much like Hinds. The difference to me is I remember young Octavian as that kid who impresses his uncle right before the seizure, like an owl in the dark of night. And then they hit you in the first scene with young Octavian casting a shadow against the sun.

              So to me, it wasn't so much jarring as it was a welcome contrast.

              Best scene of the entire show and of almost all shows I've ever seen. No action, no big flashy cgi battles, no superhero capeshit, just very good actors giving out very good performances and it is more entertaining and compelling anything Hollywood produces in their factory floor capeshit/ star wars conveyor belt of shit.

              It really was incredible. The way he puts everyone in their place with controlled anger is amazing. The whole scene is a watershed moment. Nothing was the same afterwards. It's a shame that we got it at the end of the final season instead of in the middle of the show.

              >tfw no Antony Parthian campaign
              >no Lucius Vorenus saying "LOOK AT THE FRICKING STATE OF YOU" callback
              >no HBO kino battle of legions being overwhelmed with arrow volleys in open fields
              Instead, we got the Battle of the Bastards.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >And then they hit you in the first scene with young Octavian casting a shadow against the sun.
                *old Octavian

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The second actor really grew on me. He did a great job of balancing Octavian's calculated autism with his youthful impulses.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Go on. Strike me. See what happens.
            owo octavian is that an obelisk in your pants or are you just happy to see me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Best scene of the entire show and of almost all shows I've ever seen. No action, no big flashy cgi battles, no superhero capeshit, just very good actors giving out very good performances and it is more entertaining and compelling anything Hollywood produces in their factory floor capeshit/ star wars conveyor belt of shit.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Octavian cucking the senate was right on par

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              For me it was this one, where Pompey tries (and gives up) on pretending to be a lowly merchant and explains how he was defeated. Every turn of phrase, every freudian slip, it's all so kino

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Would be cool to see what happens within Rome if Pompey actually won at Pharsalus

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hard to tell honestly, but I doubt he would kill Caesar outright, maybe send him somewhere far away. In any case, the Republic was at it's deathbed, so I doubt things would've changed in the long run

                What was his problem?

                Literal homosexual, and really bad at both poetry and prose, which garnered ridicule

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My favorite scene as well

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Great scene but also really depressing, thinking about how far this great man has fallen and how fricked everything has become. That was one of the things I loved about Rome, the feeling of impending "doom" as the republic inevitably comes to an end, no matter how hard guys like Pompey and Cato try to stop it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Did the Republic really end?

                Octavian Caesar gave it a rebirth.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Did the Republic really end?
                Up until Diocletian the Romans still pretended to have a res publica.
                Diocletian cut the bullshit and basically invented European feudalism.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      THEN AGAIN - a woman's role has always suited you best

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Truly one of the best scenes.

        >strike me, see what happens
        KINO

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Octavian was such an autstic little manipulator, I loved him.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >fricks his sister
            >confirms he creampied her
            >then turns her dumbass plot around on her

            Also Niobe got what she deserved. Even if she did believe Lucius was dead, fricking your sister's husband is just a trash move, and then she got her entire family in on the charade

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          IMO the overall best episode of the series. Season 2 was a bit spotty but this one was stacked with kino scenes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty satisfying to see /ourboy/ grow into an a sadistically autistic emperor

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      VETO THE MOTION!!!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >These being the words of Anonymous:

        >When I was a newbie, I defended this board. As an oldgay, I shall not abandon it. I give sincere thanks to the Jannies, who have presented me (gratis) with the most promising theme imaginable. I address (you) directly, Jannies. Please read as if (you) had a sense of humour, and were not merely Discord-obsessed sissies on a power trip.

        >(you) are certainly not without accomplishments: it is a rare troon that can boast of becoming a eunuch before even coming of age. (you) have brought upon us cancer, Reddit tourism and BBCposting. (you) are Cinemaphile's Anthony Burch. But then again, a cuck's role has always suited (you) best.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      SNIVELRY

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Did nothing wrong

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          *Did nothing

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            lel

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This man blackens his eyes with soot like a prostitute.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And what of good Vorenus?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Very gaulish looking fellow altogether

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I assure you he's as roman as roman bread

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He may have a gallic look about him but he's as solid a roman as we are

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      not content to let our Great Father die, he started a damn war on the Aventine that threatens to engulf the whole fricking city!

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's been 6 months, I can almost rewatch Rome again

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you know what? that's not a bad idea.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      just started my rewatch. gf's first time seeing it and she's loving it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >watching Rome with a gf
        the height of kino consumption

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I hope your girlfriend dies in 1 month.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    YOU SICK FRICK

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ATIA OF THE JULII, I CALL FOR JUSTICE

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick this b***h for all eternity

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And what of good Solonius?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit this made me
        Laugh like a little girl thank you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for making my day

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      GOOD SOLONIUS STANDS WITH EMPTY HANDS

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >make rome thread
    >gets archived
    >anon from that thread makes another one
    Janus protect you

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A TRVE ROMAN THREAD
    FOR TRVE ROMANS
    THIS POST WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY
    GAIVS
    JVLIVS
    CAESAR

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The acting is top tier, but the writing is a bit inconsistent. I'd say Rome is overrated by the board, but underrated in general

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's super rushed feeling. And the forest gump style coincidences nag at the suspension of disbelief.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Eh that was part of the premise really

        Titus and Lucius were the only two Roman soldiers mentioned by name in Caesar’s diary so they used them as the window to see the major events of the time through

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Titus and Lucius were the only two Roman soldiers mentioned by name in Caesar’s diary
          Could you imagine the feeling? To be "mentioned in dispatches" by Caesar himself? 2000 years later we still speak their names, and every student of Latin (a diminishing population, to be sure) learns them just as they learn "All Gaul is divided into three parts".

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Titus and Lucius were the only two Roman soldiers mentioned by name in Caesar’s diary
          Could you imagine the feeling? To be "mentioned in dispatches" by Caesar himself? 2000 years later we still speak their names, and every student of Latin (a diminishing population, to be sure) learns them just as they learn "All Gaul is divided into three parts".

          >Vorenus and Pullo appear in Caesar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico, Book 5, Chapter 44. The episode describes the two as centurions, approaching the first ranks, who shared a bitter personal rivalry, and takes place in 54 BC when the Nervii attacked the legion under Quintus Cicero in their winter quarters in Nervian territory.

          >In an effort to outdo Vorenus, Pullo charged out of the fortified camp and attacked the enemy. Pullo cast his javelin into one of the enemies from a short distance, but his belt was simultaneously pierced by a spear, preventing him from drawing his sword, and he was surrounded by other Nervii. Just then, Vorenus, following Pullo from the fortifications, reached the site of the mêlée and engaged the enemy in hand-to-hand combat. After slaying one of the enemy and driving back the rest, Vorenus lost his footing on the irregular terrain. As the Nervii drew closer to him, Pullo came to his aid. After slaying many of their opponents, the two retreated to the fortifications amidst roaring applause from their comrades, or "covered with glory," as described by Caesar.

          >Vorenus then disappears from history. However, it is known that in the Civil War of 49 BC, Pullo was assigned to the XXI Victrix Rapax, a new Italian legion commanded by the legate Gaius Antonius. In 48 BC, Antonius was blockaded on an island and forced to surrender; Pullo was apparently responsible for most of his soldiers switching sides to fight for Pompey. Later that year, he is recorded bravely defending Pompey's camp in Greece from Caesar's attack shortly before the Battle of Pharsalus.

          KINO...

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The quote itself was one of the original anime noble rivalries

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Was Gilgamesh the world's first buddy movie? Two men begin as rivals, enemies even... But grudgingly earn each other's respect.
            Then they go on manly adventures.
            But as one starts to die, the other moves heaven and earth to find a cure for death itself. Failing in his quest, he realizes that Civilization allows us all to leave our mark on eternity.

            [of course to say I'm paraphrasing is an insult to paraphrasing]

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, this was unironically one of the tropes I had in mind. I think there is an ancient evolution of these epic relationship between chads that to is still continuing. Gilgamesh and after that the Iliad, probably influenced the culture of people not even know these works existed. I think reading ancient stories is a better way to enjoy the modern ones. Discovering narrations so similar to things more moden we already know is every time a blast and is interesting. Probably some "virtues" are somehow also universal and imprinted in the blood of humanity, that dream to be better in valor even if for frustation usually fall in the opposite of that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                history does not repeat itself
                it always changes enough to not be predictable
                the Gilgamesh myth is a ruinous tale
                no synthesis, no catharsis. just mutual chaos
                ayy "god"-kings can suck my fricking dick

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >«In that legion there were two very strong men, Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, centurions who were reaching the highest ranks. The two were in constant antagonism as to who should be placed before the other and each year competed for promotion, with fierce rivalry. While fighting bitterly near our defenses, Pullone said: "Do you hesitate, Vorenus? What rank do you expect as a reward for your valor? Here is the day that will decide our disputes!" That said, he leave the defenses and throws himself against the enemy line, up where it seemed densest. Not even Vorenus, then, remains within the wall, fearing the judgment of all, he follows Pullo. At short distance from the enemies, Pullo throws the javelin, and hits one, which was at the head; the comrades help him, fallen and dying, protecting him with shields, while all together throw darts at Pullo, preventing him from advancing. Indeed, his shield is passed from side to side and a small javelin is planted in his belt, moving the sheath of his sword: thus, while he tries to draw it with his right hand, he wastes time and, in the obstacle in which he finds himself, he is surrounded. Immediately his rival Vorenus rushes and helps him in that difficult situation. All enemies immediately converge on him, neglecting Pullo: they believe him to be pierced by the javelin. Vorenus fights with the sword, hand to hand, kills an opponent and forces the others to retreat slightly, but, carried away by the heat, falls headlong into a ditch. He is surrounded in his turn and finds support in Pullo: both of them, unharmed, take shelter within our defenses, after having killed many enemies and having obtained great honor. Thus Fortune, in their challenge and contention, disposed of them in such a way that each brought help and salvation to the rival and that it was not possible to judge which of the two, by value, would receive the prize for the deeds. "

          (Gaius Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, V, 44.)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >it's super rushed feeling.
        Only the second series. They knew they had to wrap the entire story up.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >second series
          second season*

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He had 5 seasons planned and the set burned down. It was already the most expensive show ever filmed and they couldn't afford rebuilding the set so they told the creator to wrap thing up in a season

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it was written by israelites. its a disgrace to roman history (jews hate rome). the acting and set pieces were top tier though.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You could see the pathetic israeliness seeping in by how much they were shilling the myth of the "virtuous israelite" in the middle of season 2. The reason Rome took over the israeli kingdoms in the first place is because they were corrupt rape-filled hellholes run by barbarians.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >"virtuous israelite"
          Which one? The religious hypocrite or the murderer-for-hire?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Every israelite in the series is portrayed as a vulgar subversive foreigner who only cares about money.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            iirc they were supposed to be setting up season 5 which was to take place in jerusalem
            it was gonna go
            season 2 ends with brutus and cassius getting thrashed
            season 3 and 4 was gonna be egypt stuff
            season 5 was gonna be jerusalem and end with the birth of Jesus (cringe, right?)

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              If Season 5 rumour is to be believed, I think it could have been kino because there were a few really big israeli revolts around that time that had Roman Generals and big names in the area dealing with the revolts, putting them down and ending up being Emperors.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're talking about Vespasian, and his son Titus Flavius who was also a general dealing with the israelites at that time. They're both cool but it would kind of be boringish since Vespasian sort of just walked into Italy and swept everyone aside after Otho and Vitellius had been having a backstab orgy for the last year, and then his reign was kind of peaceful and good so...

                I dunno not much to write about.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >The reason Rome took over the israeli kingdoms in the first place is because they were corrupt rape-filled hellholes run by barbarians.
          Not barbarians, just traitors. Basically every israelites was courting foreigners and rebels in order to take over the country, and eventually one of those foreigners was a Roman who simply conquered them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >its a disgrace to roman history
        Sure, the dates are compressed and events embellished. I can't think of a single historical depiction that doesn't deviate. I like how they portrayed the militarism and patrician/plebian dichotomy.

        Wretched villains or misguided heroes?

        Misguided villains. Cato was an idealist to a fault, clinging to a rotting republic was rotting away but doing little to stop it. I understand the reservations to Caesar and what precedents he might set, but Caesar was actually attempting badly needed reforms. Also, Cato sabotaged a compromise deal that would've prevented the civil war in the first place.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      BY IVPITER'S wiener, SOMEONE CASTRATE THIS PLEBEIAN!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was illegal to castrate a Roman citizen, plebeians included brotha.

        Any kino roman movies or shows other than Rome HBO and Gladiator?

        Spartacus (the Kubrick one)
        Spartacus the show
        Quo Vadis
        The decline and fall of the Roman Empire
        I, Claudius
        Ben Hur (Heston version, the newest one sucks but there is a kino scene of Roman legionaries marching and singing cadences you can watch on YouTube)

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread this.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shame, shame on the House of Ptolemy for this barbarity

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I AM A BASTARD SON OF DYS!

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just a reminder that Rome was originally supposed to be a lot more depressing.

    >Stevenson revealed what had once been intended to be the very first scene of Rome—as well as the series’ “ultimate end.” The point that Heller and Stevenson always saw the series building toward.

    >“Bruno [Heller] once did outline a story that he was going to start the whole series with,” Stevenson said. “An 88-year-old Pullo going down to the riverside by Vorenus’ tomb, or sarcophagus, pouring wine on it, taking a sword out while sitting there on the banks, looking at the glistening river, and committing suicide.

    >“And as he has his face hit the sand on the banks, a fish jumped out of the water, and the silver light on the fish caught the sword, which brought us right into that first battle with Lucius Vorenus and [Titus Pullo] where he breaks ranks.”

    >As according to Stevenson, the final scenes of the series would have eventually explained this fate as the relationship between Octavian, who is only a child when Rome starts, and Pullo becomes clear.

    >Says Stevenson, “The reason was that the only person on the planet who [knows] the Emperor Augustus to be human, who was Octavian, is Pullo. And Pullo’s the only one who has that memory of him or that life. And basically, [Augustus] asks him to. Nobody else could kill him. But at that stage, Octavian is obviously in his paranoid imperial sort of thing, and Pullo is the last tie to that time when he was a boy. It’s genius.”

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is high kino, is there anyone left who can make television this good anymore?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Anything this expensive can no longer get through the 'department heads' desk without incurring a serious gender and diversity rewrite.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        People don't care for historical kinos anymore, they just want capeshit and fantasy. It's over for our kind.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >ANY MOCKERY OF THE israeliteS AND THEIR ONE GOD MUST BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He sounds as fat as he is and I love it

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    CARMELLA HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well anon? Have you?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She really got sidelined in S2. They gave her almost nothing to do so she just turned into a b***hy wine aunt.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    THIRRRRRRRTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I PISS ON THE THIRTEENTH

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I PISS ON THE THIRTEENTH
        WHAT DID YOU SAY homie?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        [ULTRAVIOLENCE ACTIVATED]

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am just now watching this series and I'm mad there's only two seasons

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hated Lucius but loved everything else about the show.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pathetic, embarrassing opinion. Lucius was Roman as could be. I’ve banged 14 black women.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Lucius was Roman as could be
        Clearly has a Gallic look about him.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      bruh his autism was one of the best parts of the show

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think kids with bad fathers find the idea of pater familias very entertaining

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fortune pisses on you, anon.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there some...other form of law? You wretched woman?

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    But did he ever had the making of a varsity gladiator?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's not true. I was promoted all four campaigns.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    AVE COMMENDATORI

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    yeah but he had no backward compatibility.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really need to watch this show again
    it's been too long

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vorenus reaction when he throws the head away always makes me laugh, his face is like "nooo, not my decapitated, rotting comfort head :("

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Deserved much worse tbh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pullo snapping and killing her is an amazingly acted scene. Ray Stevenson is too underrated

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >mfw he shows up in Dexter as a primary antagonist

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's amazing that he never got bigger roles. We need a Raynaissance.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Trips confirm it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          We were robbed of Stevenson as Victarion

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            don't bring this fantasy capeshit here

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Dilate

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                fortune piss on you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                May Concord frick you in the ass

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          he was good in those Thor movies until that gay Taika killed him off with no fanfare in Ragnarok

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            his real name is Taika David Cohen btw

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I was keking hard at normalhomosexuals going "le first polynesian hollywood director". And of course be was israeli

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That movie is a cancer. "Let's have a movie where everything Thor knows and loves dies all around him and he's just cracking jokes with his new diverse group of friends!"

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            he was barely in those movies and died like a b***h, hopefully at Ray's request since they just used him as a redshirt caveman

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >murders her before she dies of blood loss
        >tosses her corpse into the mud by the Tiber to be picked at by dogs

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pompey always said the caesareans were a glorified crew , it's simple we assassinate and do business with whatevers left

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >But then...but then...
    >GO. ONNNNNN!
    wat do

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      shit my tunic

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I watched this series before I knew anything about Roman history and it's still one of the best shows I've ever watched (first season at least).

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Should I watch this show? I heard it was cancelled halfway

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I AM A SON OF MOOT
    I FRICK HIRO IN HER ASS

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wretched villains or misguided heroes?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they were based

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Shit I meant Caesar not the fat crier, he's based as frick too though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cicero was annoying, got what he deserved

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        agreed his "philippics" against Mark Antony were juvenile rants barely worthy of Cinemaphile[nel].
        but the man knew his audience, of IQ-90 central Italians.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >man who revolutionized the idea of rhetoric
          >changed Western oral tradition for centuries
          >one of the few voices of reason in the Late Republic
          >juvenile
          wat

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The writers really ruined his character in the show.
          Good acting tho.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He was really just a stand in for the senate as a whole, hence all the self-serving turncoating.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, he was too foppish and incompetent. Could've showed him tutoring Octavian for a while, and how much he struggled to let his mentor be murdered

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I like him honestly, even if he was arrogant and a hypocrite, but he had his heart in the right place, even with probably the worst allies in history. His speeches are quite entertaining too, if a bit too self-serving

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        "i mean who hasn't ?" - cicero's defence as an attorney when his client is accused of raping an actress

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cicero was the political glue that held the republic together. In the show he was given far less gravitas but still my guy none the less

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Villains. Monarchy or bust.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A bit of both. As portrayed in the show, their virtuous ideals are offset by their tactical incompetence and being out of touch with the people. This was expanded on near the end of the season with the liberators justifying their attack on ceasar as populist when it's clear they caesar was the populist and they were just protecting the aristocracy from reform.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >villains
      I think you missed the point of the show
      these were not times of heroes and villains
      it was a time of gods and men

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cato was an insufferable c**t and deserved the end he got
      Pompey was largely just manipulated
      Cicero's heart was in the right place but he overestimated the Senate's principles

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The republic could've used a return after the reforms Caesar or even Octavian was doing for the masses since a stronger republic could've probably saved Rome from at least a few of the massively moronic guys who came to power down the road, so I'm gonna say somewhere in the middle.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Julius Caesar soiface

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why does HBO shit out such kino miniseries or series that get canceled early? I'm just about finishing up Generation Kill for the second time, holy fricking shit is it kino. Rome is my next rewatch and I just know it's going to be kino all over again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Generation Kill
      More like Trombley?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO
        I am assured that Generation Kill is based as frick and will be recognized as such. I am assured of this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      watch Carnivale S1, then complain to me
      then watch S2 and realize HBO is always right

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sulla or Caesar?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What was his problem?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's Posca. Unironically one of the best characters in the show.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He fell off hard after S1, but his dynamic with Caesar was 50% of his appeal

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based general posca

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They say slaves talk of courage as fish talk of flying

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What happened to Pompey's wife and children? I don't think we see them again after he's killed at the beach.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ptolemy raped them

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The fat little inbred? Doubt it, Pompey's kids could've probably beat him up, I get higher rapist vibes from the eunuch.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I was joking

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >rapist
          >eunuch
          Hmmm

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Rome so based?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Personally I believe that our "Great Filter" event as humans is the failure of Roman civilization to render politics moot.
      Yes, I'm an idiot. Yes, I'm moronic.
      But an unquestionable world empire ruled by an unquestionable emperor before modern sociopolitical concepts even had a name... Now it's too late. Everyone is entitled to everything and we have clever little handles and tidy little political parties and thousands of nationalities. We'll fight one another to oblivion over the last lump of coal.

      Verification not required.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Help me anon, I would be a great emperor of all humanity, I know because I've played EU4

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I've played EU4
          Years ago I would use the console commands to set up the start of the game so the Roman Empire never fell. It took me hours.
          Only then would I begin.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            wtf are mods even?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not a video games guy.
              I read online that you can use the console to put the Roman Empire back together - one keystroke at a time. And then you can rewrite history.
              It's the least I can do.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They added a custom nation mechanic, so you can easily create it.
                Also It's a formable nation, you can form italy and then reform the empire when you reconquer the territories.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >reconquer
                I know in my head this is the correct word... but in my heart I know those territories still belong to The Empire.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        yes the R*man empire was so amazing that it collapsed so hard that nobody even remembers how to speak its mercantile language which it spammed to 3 continents and an Abrahamic religion
        they had slaves and didn't industrialize
        the only civic tradition they had was the legion and that failed
        we don't even use anything like their laws lmao
        the only thing Romans ended up with was an influence on the architecture of the Capitol

        also a friendly reminder that Western civilization would not have survived without monks on the FRINGES of you the remains of your shitty republic-memeing empire

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          didn't read lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            nobody stands Roman anymore
            nobody should want to

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Where do you think you are?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >we don't even use anything like their laws lmao
          One of the most important exams you give in law school in europe is called "roman right", you fricking inbred ignorant moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >falling for obvious bait

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >It's law.
            >American law.
            >Is there some...other? Form of law? You wretched woman?
            fricking europoors lol
            English common law and Napoleonic Code are much more relevant legal concepts. But hey, keep sucking Classical dick I guess. Best version of your civilization anyway

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Napoleonic code
              >something that happened 200 years ago is more true to this day than something that happened 2000 years ago.
              Any more genius takes anon?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the one praising ancient, inherently misinterpreted legal codes of authoritarian slavers for which we hardly have any reliable historical record. Roman law is history, not legal study
                >but muh colonization
                Come on, you can do better than that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Roman law is history, not legal study
                But it literally is
                >I'm not the one praising ancient
                You are the one showing your ignorance.
                Yes, there are more relevant legal systems... that doesn't make Rome irrelevant
                > for which we hardly have any reliable historical record
                Fricking lmao, whatever, I hope you are baiting, or underage.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >whatever
                One of the first things you learn in any class about an Ancient/Classical topic is the unreliability of the historical record. Do you come from an alternate universe where the Library wasn't burned?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Most people don't understand that letter for letter, word for word, the majority of our Roman corpus comes from.... stone inscriptions.
                Graffiti and resumes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I simply don't believe there's enough historical record for Roman law to merit as a serious influence on modern Western law. Maybe some middling influence on English common law with the reinvigoration of the pater familias concept. Even then, I'm of the opinion that English common law spiritually appeals mostly to anglo countries (best West), which I don't associate with the continent. I guess you could say the modern French ideal of equality comes from Roman times, which led to the modern American ideal of equality...but that's a stretch, from Roman "equality" to American freedom.

                Like I said...columns are all that remain of Roman influence. But beautiful columns they are.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >HE'S RIGHT BEHIND ME, SOMEONE KILL THE GOYIM BEFORE HE GRABS M-

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is in my top ten favorite images of all time.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's a good one

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why are those Nazis harassing Nick Kroll like that? Didn't they love his hit kid's show Big mouth?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The weak israelite fears the STRONG MED GRIP

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Stop saying med homosexual. Only nafri Black folk say that to include themselves in aryan European history

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I say that, and I'm not a nafri Black person so that's clearly not true.
            > in aryan European history
            I hope this isn't an attempt at we wuzzing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm just trying to grab this denarius I dropped on the groun-
        >I SAW IT FOIST YA ANTI-SEMITE

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Your caption made me laugh so hard I choke on my shrimp

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what is he doing? Getting ready to fist frick him?

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And what of good Craterus?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      HE DREAMS

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What is the sauce for your gif?

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Romans so kino, lads?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Innate Chadness

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Romanaboo will shill hard this tv series but say that Christian Roman Empire was the best

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >say that Christian Roman Empire was the best
      Who the frick would ever say or think that?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The Eastern Empire I expect.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Christian larpers who love Roman Empire and never go to the church, shill every christian kingdoms, and convieniently forgets the Latin Empire but will blame Arabs, israelites and Turks for the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dying empires are more interesting than healthy ones

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shitty degenerate collapsing state, but the Christian goths were better then the OG Roman’s. Gothic honor is where chivalry came from and they saved the west from the ultra rotten degenerate late stage Roman Empire

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        True. Gothics, Vandals and other Germanic tribes always treated better the locals than Romans themselves. When the Byzantine came back in Italy they actually made it worse for the locals.
        Its almost like most people dont like to be ruled by globohomosexual empires and want some kind of liberty for themselves.

        Aside from the standard of living in Rome or the good laws, are oligarchic empires really needed even in ancient times ? They tend to create more harms to smaller comunities and benefits only the capitals and prefects.
        Was the Roman Empire ever great for the conquered ?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Was the Roman Empire ever great for the conquered ?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >The roads go without saying obviously
            Holy shit

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >...made peace
            I need to rewatch this kino.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          When the Byzantine came back to Italy, there was also plague, famine, cold winters and new barbarian hordes.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            But they were the foreigners themselves in Italy.
            Many generations passed between the first king of Italy to Justinian, the average Byzantine didnt even spoke Latin but Greek. Latin was only used by nobles and patricians.
            Famine, plague or not I doubt that they would even kept the territories given how already the locals in Africa didnt wanted Byzantine rule or that the Persian were pressing them in the east + the Franks beginning to be more and more powerful.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >"religion" not found
              what a fricking pathetic analysis
              there is no doubt that the ByzBoys couldn't hold Italy, but it's not like everyone welcomed the raping heretical pillagers just because the language changed
              there were HUGE, meaningful divisions in the Great Schism which occurred over many decades of intra-faith meetings that can't just be waved away with "they got used to it"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >they actually made it worse for the locals
          yeah those foreign invaders imposing heresy really took the edge off
          are you out of your mind?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          First of all Classical roman rule /= Byzantine rule.
          Second of all
          >When the Byzantine came back in Italy they actually made it worse for the locals
          Source?
          And third, the byzantine came at the worst time possible, with the plague, a famine, the eurpion of a volcano that darkened the sky. Possibly the worst period in human history. Even if the locals perceived the things getting worse, was it really the Byzantine's fault?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Large taxation by Justinian and my source is Precopius even tho he himself was very partial against Justinian and overexagerated the outcome and destruction of Italy in the Gothic wars. He is right on how bad taxation was on the people of Italy.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Well, yeah, so taxation during a period of complete exonomic disaster was bad.
              Was it really fault of an empire existing though? Seems a lot like a consequence of plague+famine stretching the empire's treasury very thin.
              it's certainly not a good argument against the roman empire as a whole.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It is the worst time to raise taxes in these case. Justinian didnt graps economics that well and was hell bent to refill the Imperial Treasaury and more than before the Gothic Wars in Italy.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Vandals and other Germanic tribes always treated better the locals than Romans themselves
          this is just wrong, the vandals were notorious buttholes to basically everyone in northern africa and that is part of the reason why belisarius had such an easy time taking it back from them

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >No season to see the change of Octavian into Augustus and his Reign
    >Instead HBO invested in fricking GOT

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!
    what was the ptolemaic shitlord's problem anyways
    >yeah lets just behead this consol that'll make cesear love us

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      100% wanted to start a war with the Ptolemaic kingdom, Pompey's death was convieniant.
      In an earlier scene, he said that Pompey was too dangerous to be alive and even lashout on Pullo and Lusius for not killing the poor Consul.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >still believing cesearian propaganda
        protip: history is written by the victors

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cesarian propaganda actually say that Caesar was in his absolute right to avenge a friend and Consul from his country.
          The most probable thing was they neither were friends and Caesar wanted more power in the most ressourceful place in the mediteranean sea.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Caesar from being able to pardon Pompey and end the Civil War peacefully.
        This, Caesar was big on pardoning. The classic "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" move.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I dont know if pardoning would work with Pompey, he was a man of honor and was willing to fight to the bitter end.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Either option would be good for Caesar, he would either be seen as a leader who forgave his enemy or as a leader who was forced to kill the man he wanted to pardon.
            Pompey being killed by a third party was absolutely the worst option.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What guarantee Pompey would never turn on Caesar while he slowly becomes a Tyrant/King ?
              Pompey killed in battle is a good outcome.
              However him getting killed by a third party whose province controls most of the grain in the med sea is actually the best outcome.
              It wouldnt actually suprise me that Pompey was assassinated by Caesar's and put the blame on the Ptolemaic nobles as a false flag operation to keep the war in his favor against the Catonians.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It wouldnt actually suprise me that Pompey was assassinated by Caesar's and put the blame on the Ptolemaic nobles as a false flag operation to keep the war in his favor against the Catonians.
                Considering Caesar had the de facto leader of the Optimates on the ropes, and how poorly the Siege of Alexandria went, I find it highly unlikely this would be the case.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Considering Pompey's terrible position and their previous relationship, there's a decent chance he would have gone for it, if Caesar offered it, which is still a matter of debate.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No man of honor and conservative like Pompey, especially during the end of his political career, would accept that from a man trying to destroy the Republic.
              Maybe he would disenbowl himself like Cato.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If he was such a optimates idealist and honour compelled man he would have fallen on his sword in Greece, Pompey was hardly a die hard republican. Had Julia lived he probably would have retired from public life with his beloved bride. It was only by circumstance, or fate (and a good measure of personal pride), that he found himself as the defender of Rome opposing Caesar

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If he was such a optimates idealist and honour compelled man he would have fallen on his sword in Greece
                Wouldnt be more fit to him to never stop fighting and comeback to fight for another day ?
                He was an honorable man, but not a stupid idealist like Cato.
                I would agree that he would've accept to be pardonned by Caesar but its not unlikely that he would eventually form some Legions and be a pain in the ass of Caesar at some point.
                It looks better for him to give clemency for his enemies to end the civil war quickly but it in the long term, it would just give more time for his ennemies to plot or preparing another war against him if he gets too much power.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i claudius > rome
    i say this as a rome enjoyer

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+f
    >"Hadrian"
    All these anti-semite Rome fans and none of you mention the human being who scattered the tribes across the face of the Earth?
    No mention of the man who said "Enough of this bullshit. Send them away"?

    There's a reason we do not get Hadrian kino, lads.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      May his bones be ground into dust

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    this show turned me into a rome-enjoyer and i even made a trip to rome (the italians call it "roma" by the way)
    and it was one of the best experiences of my life

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There was an elevated garden in the roman forum where you could see the forum and all of the city, with the colosseum and all, and I teared up when I saw it.
      Also the Vatican museums have the highest concentration of art I've ever seen in my life.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Also the Vatican museums have the highest concentration of art I've ever seen in my life.
        >walking through like 2 miles of tapestries to get to the sistene chapel
        its like out of a dream

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    thread theme

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based, I'm gonna watch the Aurelian episode later.
      Aurelian is my favorite historical figure and it's not even close.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The ending might make you cry anon.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >search up on roman emperors
    >a bunch of them just ruled for 5-10 years then get assassinated and replaced by someone else who will rule for even less time and also be assassinated
    Shit was fricked up

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >THATS RIGHT
    >AND STILL FRICKING YOUR MOTHER

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    shockingly good thread btw

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      its pretentious as frick but better than starwars marvell garbage at least

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >pretentious
        frick off

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you're an armchair historian with no credentials or actual interesting knowledge
          still better than starwars

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What the consensus on Philip the Arab in here?

            I fricked Mary Beard. That's my credential.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Mary Beard.
              godawful, why cant women truly appreciate ancient history without making all about their festering cobweb encrusted veganas?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The leading Merovingian scholar is not only an out-and-out Marxist, but he only presents his scholarship in a Marxist context.
                It drives me INSANE... but that's his point, to frick over people like me who just want to learn.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if this is pretentious then you just need to go back to the capeshit star wars threads

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >watched a few minutes of the first episode
    Why does it look and feel like amateur trash? Like it's punching above its weight? "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys" looks better.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >That moment when Posca negotiates with Herod and gets cheated out of more money by the king israelite

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Have all of you mastered Ancient Roman history moreso on your own or through formal education?

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Spain?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >My turn! : P
      : 0

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >ALL MOCKERY OF israeliteS AND THEIR ONE GOD SHALL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gaius and Aulus, bros for life.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      checked

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How'd that other one go?
      "Farewell wonderous femininity, from now on I'm penetrating men?"
      Something like that was written in Pompeii.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men's behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >>Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men's behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
          based and butthole pille4d

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ALL ACCOUNTS OF CESEAR WERE WRITTEN BY CESEAR
    stop buying into the 2000 year old propaganda bros please

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If augustus didn't reveal that he was a hack when he took power, it's reasonable to assume he wasn't a hack and he wasn't lying when describing himself as the CHADDVS MAXIMVS

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        avgvtvs only exists because of the genius of the general who won all of his battles for him despite his incompetence and im too much of a pothead to remember his name

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Agrippa?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I never claimed augustus was a great general, just said that if it was all propaganda, after Caesar's death he would have been exposed.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Agrippa ?
          I mean, obviously, a man isnt great at everything.
          An intelligent man hiwever surrounds himself with capable administrators and men who makes results. Being surrounded by Yesmen who suck your wiener and let you do bad decision is the mark of a great leader.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i hopped a fence in pompeii and got to see some shit they wont let the public see for about 10 more years
    theyre really holding out on the good stuff

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sulla did nothing wrong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      neither did crassus, cicero, or pompAY i refuse to call him pomPEE frick that

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >one of the most kino speeches ever
    >show glosses over it
    fricking why

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Romans conquer Britain
    >Romans bring chieftain to Rome for parade + murder
    >Chieftain sees Rome
    "How can you, who possess such things, covet our poor tents?"
    >Romans nod knowingly, but still want to kill him in the parade
    "Why not let me live as a testament to the clemency and goodwill of the Roman people?"
    >Frick, this guy is good
    >Romans let him live in splendor until the end of his days
    >Enslave the British anyway

    R O M E

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any kino roman movies or shows other than Rome HBO and Gladiator?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, you are Spartacus.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Looks good but every show except Rome HBO depicts the Roman empire as an ancient evil oppressive Nazi kingdom. Kinda sucks but what can you do when the israelites literally rule Hollywood and still spite the history and knowledge of Rome

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      S1 Britannia is good, S2 is okay don't think I'll check out S3 as that's where the stolen source material for the show ends

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Will we ever get a Hadrian series?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The israelites at hollywood would never allow it.

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He was a choc full o nuts

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