Hearing a lot of job loss in hollywood

like ALOT of people who’ve been working for 20+ years are now unemployed or can’t find work in hollywood. Editors and all those random jobs.

Is Hollywood going to have a crash too like the video game industry and what does that mean for tv and film production the next decade?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >posting TikTok videos
    Holy shit the absolute state of Cinemaphile

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it’s a tiktok link to a tiktok video, gonna cry?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tiktok is tv now boomer, get over it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it the new trend? Cinemaphile is filled with literally who Twitter screenshots.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody is on twitter/youtube anymore

      these are boomer websites
      everyone is on tiktok now...china won. usa lost.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        YouTube is literally bigger than ever

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Matt Hobin? More like Fatt Goblin

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they ALL work in TV and it's all pretty low class TV
    All of that is being replaced by TikTok. And they're complaining about it... on TikTok.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pre covid, all the top 10 highest grossing movies of the year easily broke a billion
    >Last year only two movies actually did that despite inflation

    Yeah people are just tired of paying $20 to see Jurassic Park 8 or Ghostbusters 7.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oppenheimer, Barbie, Spider-Man, Mario and Top Gun still made bank. Most of the movies are just ass now and the public don't want it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Audiences only really go out for big event movies now. Like BIG, cultural phenomenon ones. Movies aren't casual entertainment like they were up through the 90s, there are far too many options at home.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People don't want to miss out on the current thing. And if the current thing is some mid range budget movie that is in theaters only and word of mouth spreads that it's good, people will go see it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >More tentpoles
          The solution is cheaper movies left in theatres long enough to build word of mouth, i.e. what got the industry big in the first place.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ALOT
    moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what you makes fun of me

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no that sucks.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a series of lengthy articles being published in either Variety/Deadline/THR detailing the current brutal wipeout in the American movie industry. LOTS of job losses, canceled projects and outsourcing.
    There's also an increasing amount of anger against/rejection of the DEI/ESG scam because it ultimately plunged Hollywood into its current decline. The idea that Blackrock would keep financing commercial flops w/ woke content proved to be wildly overestimated.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DEI/ESG

      Those are the terms of hiring diverse talent?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. Also writing characters/situations were "oppressed" or "underrepresented" segments will be portrayed as protagonists, powerful or superduper bright etc. Thing is, except for Barbie all recent mainstream movies whose main star was a woman for instance have massively flopped because they didn't connect with the male OR the female audience.

        I think the writers and actors strike last year pissed off a lot of higher ups. I think they know just want to massively trim down the entertainment industry as many of their movies are bombing or barely turning a profit.

        >I think the writers and actors strike last year pissed off a lot of higher ups.
        100%. A previous installment of this series of articles mentions that after the strike 17% of all jobs (both technical and "talent" such as screenwriters etc) were gone and haven't been reopened. The power structure in Hollywood punished the strikers in a silent but evident way.
        > I think they know just want to massively trim down the entertainment industry as many of their movies are bombing or barely turning a profit.
        And they do that shamelessly. Outsourcing for instance (both CGI and actual locations/studios outside the US) is killing thousands and thousands of jobs in Hollywood.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's stupid, so where do the original scripts come in? These rules are killing all creativity in Hollywood.But not only that, the economy in general is terrible right now and a Weinstein-type scandal could lead to a public boycott of the industry in general.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That's stupid, so where do the original scripts come in?
            That's the thing: when ESG "recommendations" were put in place these imbeciles assumed the audiences would go along. But the opposite has happened: both viewership on TV and movies' box office fell precipitously.
            >These rules are killing all creativity in Hollywood.
            Evidently: "writers' rooms" (that is, a bunch of diversity hires among truly talented writers), overemphasizing projects written and/or directed by women are the foremost, unmistakable source of Hollywood's decline.
            >But not only that, the economy in general is terrible right now and a Weinstein-type scandal could lead to a public boycott of the industry in general.
            Unlikely that the public would be fazed by a sex scandal, particularly in Hollywood. It's a shrill minority of twittertards and clickbaitish journalists who cling to these petty, passing dramas. The audience wants good, enjoyable movies instead of being lectured or given shitty CGI capeshit dreck.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Learn to Code

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              AI can already do that though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
        and
        Environmental, Social, Governance

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, but specifically a deal with investment companies that they will only invest in your company if you meet DEI/ESG scores. so companies have to add random diversity shit just for the sake of investors

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the writers and actors strike last year pissed off a lot of higher ups. I think they know just want to massively trim down the entertainment industry as many of their movies are bombing or barely turning a profit.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they will never admit the real problem

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Against facts there are no arguments. They already know.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything in the women category except being the supervising producer shoots up
      >Supervising producer for men goes up by 1%
      Curious

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Put women in a position of control when it comes to hiring & corporate culture
    >Industry severely lags or collapses in short order
    Nothing new

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do incels like that realize how schizo they sound, like holy shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe he’s right, women have been in charge the last 10 years

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t agree with his conclusion but if your only counter to it is ‘incel!’ then I believe him more now

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >everything bad in the world is because of women! Provide evidence? The evidence is that they won't give me sex!
          There is no counter to this sort of mental illness outside of telling the person he needs to seek psychiatric help immediately.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The industry will not last another 5 years in the state it is in.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sucks for them, but it's entirely unsurprising. The industry had been in a bubble for the last decade. Tonnes of awful decisions, including a surplus of production at the same time audiences became increasingly fragmented. That bad foundation is finally cracking and you've had plenty of companies cut back substantially.

    The strikes limiting production work was obviously going to eventually catch up to the people in post. There's no movie or show for you to edit if the actors and writers were on strike for months.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still find it peculiar that the strikes so rapidly died down following the Panama protest shooting, like that was a warning to them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The strikes limiting production work was obviously going to eventually catch up to the people in post. There's no movie or show for you to edit if the actors and writers were on strike for months.
      Interesting point of view.
      If you think about it, this shows how their situation is even worse because Hollywood should be hiring these people like crazy now for upcoming projects, but it looks like studios are downsizing (or maybe these jobs are not that necessary anymore).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They got hit by the strikes and the downsizing. The people in post got to work a few more months because there was stuff already shot that needed to go through their hands. Now that production is running again, the work isn't coming back because every company is greenlighting less. The amount of theatrical films have been in decline for years. The kids TV space is a blood bath.

        Linear TV is dying, so there's a big exodus of content in that space. No one's really doing scripted stuff for cable at all anymore. For years, streaming made up the difference and then some, but the belt is being tightened. One firm is expecting U.S. content spends to drop at least 20% over the next five years. Some of that is already taking place. Disney is pledging to spend $2 billion less on content this year. Netflix's spending dropped 5% from 2021 to 2022, with the expectation that more of that money is going overseas. WBD and Paramount have huge financial issues.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it that every time trade unions act, masses of workers lose their livelihoods? How the frick is anyone still delusional enough to believe trade unions care about workers?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The people at the top of trade unions only care about themselves. They see the people under them as disposable because there are always newbies looking to sign on and older workers who will train them to reduce overall workload

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Streaming and youtube/tiktok sucked so much money and attention out of hollywood that the entire industry is becoming unsustainable. They will test the waters with AI in an effort to cut costs but I have a strong feeling the market will reject it. Couple that with the ongoing braindrain and dearth of institutional knowledge and you have the perfect recipe for total hollywood death, or rather cannibalization by tech companies and foreign entities particularly Saudi Arabia and China.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most likely cable tv will die, no one watches it anymore, they cut the cord. Young people watch youtube, tik tok, streaming, or even pirate everything.

    Why pay 20 bucks to go to a movie that will insult you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why pay 20 bucks to go to a movie that will insult you
      Because I'm into findom

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All industries go through boom and bust periods. The film industry and Hollywood itself has gone through many down periods. The worst lull came post World War II. It wasn't until the mid-70s that films started matching the revenue and profit levels of the 1930s. In fact, the TV boom of the 1950s saved Hollywood from the cinema collapse but the quality of TV and film in that era was at it's lowest point overall. Though a few gems from TV and film did come out at that time. And from the mid-50s up the late 70s there were small booms and busts before the box office hit overdrive in the 80s and didn't stop until the mid 2010s. If anything, even though quality has been tanking since 1999, the financial side of movies went on a decades long boom period. It was only natural that it would collapse at some point.

    Hollywood the city reached it's low point in the late '70s when even the Hollywood sign was dilapidated and missing letters. Hugh Hefner, of all people, was the one that helped renovate the sign and save it from demolition.

    So things are bad but they have been much worse before. There will be reorganizing and consolidation and the industry will rise again. There's just so many people that don't deserve to be involved in movies and TV that somehow made a career out of it that are finally being hit by reality. On the bright side, now is the time for Cinemaphile anons to rise up and start making indie films. A 1994 style revival will arrive in the coming years and now is the time to shoot your shot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All industries go through boom and bust periods
      True but Hollywood's problems go beyond these fluctuations because it's a structural, global loss of credibility/popularity along with a massive change in technology and consumer habits.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All the major YouTube, TikTok, Twitch and streaming stars have the same agents, publicists and marketing teams as the major actors and musicians. Hell, evem the big video game creators have publicists and managers. These guys will never lose money and will always have their finger in everything. Hollywood will always be behind the big names. Viral marketing and grassroots fame is a meme.

        But TV and movies will never regain the luster they had. I agree, that will suffer in the coming years.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They do but they're ALREADY losing money. The difference is that those from Hollywood's work structure are losing their JOBS and work units are being dismantled.
          Studios and companies could go bankrupt overnight, and the consequences of that are systemic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still, the financial situation in Hollywood is not as bad as 1969 when Kerkorian came into the picture and bought MGM for peanuts and then bought United Artists and merged them. Kerkorian was Elon Musk before Musk, for the zoomies out there. At the moment studios need minor contraction, and Paramount is the only big studio that will be absorbed this round. Warner's will probably split some of their divisions but not go away completely like Fox.

            As far as streaming, that needs a major overhaul. There are more than a dozen streamers in an ecosystem that can realistically only support 3 or 4. This is where jobs will be lost but it's only natural. This is where the major collapse you are alluding too will happen.

            Internationally, China is the only country that is independent of Hollywood but they're basically a propaganda industry. India, Korea and all other countries get a huge influx of money from Disney, Netflix and others which in turn give those studios a healthy profit. Netflix did more damage internationally than in America. There are countries where vibrant studios were gutted because Netflix came in and essentially bought all the talent.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Different circumstances. This time around it isn't about being capitalized, it's about the product losing its consumers and having many more competitors than just TV in the late 60s.
              All 3: China, India and Korea ultimately have audiences focused on their own movies, no matter if Hollywood has an interest in the latter 2.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how old are you....

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ancients walk among you, young one. Learn from them when they offer knowledge

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a difference, though. Never before has Hollywood made such utter garbage as it is today.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think a collapse would "blow the gates down" so to speak, it would force these studios to reach out in more unconventional or unlikely ways to "discover" people they hear about through either word of mouth or info their spooks have collected

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >until the early 2010s
          >if you had the looks and wanted to be famous and/or make money out of it, you had to be an actor or a model
          >present day
          >if you got the looks you can just start making videos on tiktok and youtube about random shit and get paid for it
          I'm not the anon you're replying, but I think the whole thing is eroding top to bottom. I talked about hot people, but think about other people too. The gaming and tech industries are booming, so I wouldn't be surprised if competent artists and technicians that could only shine in Hollywood back in the 1990s and early 2000s are now going to create shit for Square-Enix or making filters for Insta and Tiktok.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hm. That's a decent point. But after looking back, as a whole the output in the 50s was worse than what we have now. The conservative, bland, take no chances attitude of the era reached it's peak in this decade and it hurt creativity. Elvis singlehandedly sent shock waves through music and pop culture this decade and that's what led to the resurgence in all pop art in the 60s. He made teen rebellion mainstream and then those kids grew up. 2010s were like the 40s , but not as bad as the 50s. But who knows if this down period continues into the 2020s. The optimist in me wants to think that some unknown directors will pop up in the coming years to recharge everything.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very good post

      There's a difference, though. Never before has Hollywood made such utter garbage as it is today.

      Delusional and potentially underage

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Midwit take. Industries don't last forever and nothing says the american movie industry has to be the top one. There's nothing that says the 90-180 min moving picture is an eternal monolith and history shows forms of entertainment come and go over time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In fact, the TV boom of the 1950s saved Hollywood from the cinema collapse
      Is this why USG is banning TikTok, so Hollywood can take it over and studios can make lots of little slopfests instead of one big one

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >white leftoids bullshit themselves out of labor market

    Couldn't have happened to more deserving people. Hopefully they'll starve to death.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't even notice but it's all white people. Replaced by DEI hires. Probably some smart ones advertised themselves as gay or autistic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks autistic people check the diversity hire box

        LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "neuro-divergent" gets tickok diversity points. same with fat pride. wont do shit for for corporate diversity points tho

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good.
    Whites deserve to just sit around twiddling their thumbs for being pieces of israelite loving shit

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They voted for it.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like TV and film more than your average person but I think it would be a net positive for media as a whole if every single one of these people lost their jobs or outright died. Ideally Hollywood itself would be erased from the Earth. What would come from the ashes would be genuinely good. No more formulaic netflix slop. No more nepotism. No more champagne socialist projecting their meme pop politics into everything they get their hands on.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I like TV and film more than your average person but I think it would be a net positive for media as a whole if every single one of these people lost their jobs or outright died

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It feels like a crash is imminent in every industry as the world prepares to descend into war.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >banks and debt owners making inflation and interest payments a thing
      >govt taxing us to be poor

      it’s very fixable quite honestly

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't care less.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that last one
    >I've applied to over 200 job postings and not heard from a single one
    lmfao welcome to the party, butthole

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these Black folk think they deserve to work in their ideal job? If you can't get a Hollywood gig go work at an amazon warehouse or walmart. Oh, I get it, don't want to be looked down upon as a low status gay. Fricking worthless Black folk, the whole lot of them. Can't wait for AI to start taking jobs away from woke gays.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is hollywood going to have a crash too like the video game industry
    MFW i'm sitting here on my 32nd deus ex playthrough with artosis' twitch stream on my second monitor after watching curse of the black pearl on a 15 year old DVD while I ate dinner and haven't been within 400 feet of a theater in 5 years.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FRICK 'EM

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We are in the middle of the capeshit crash. Also, there's nothing that says the movie as a mainstream entertainment medium has to be around forever. This could be the end of it and movies will soon go the way of the novel where genre movies are still made but are well post prime for an increasingly niche audience.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The end of the big bucks era (as in blockbusters who made hundreds, sometimes over a billion dollars domestic+foreign) will have major consequences for Hollywood and investment funds. Hollywood won't necessarily die but LA could become like Detroit.
      And nobody will miss it because there's an increasing and perhaps unstoppable rejection of Hollywood worldwide. Many major markets are already under control of local productions and studios.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It seem inevitable as the US loses power and influence as it becomes more and more Mexified. Will Hollywood collapse because the movie industry as a whole collapses as people move on to other forms of media, or just the US's sphere of influence shrinks too much to uphold the Hollywood blockbuster system is something only time will tell.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It seem inevitable as the US loses power and influence as it becomes more and more Mexified.
          The irony is that Mexicans and Latinos in general-- particularly legal immigrants- are NOT to blame but white leftists are. Newsom, Pelosi and Biden did more against the US than any of its foreign enemies.
          As for Hollywood, it'll crash harder because it used to be 1)very lucrative (actually an important side of the American GDP) and 2)very popular, and losing these 2 elements signals a major loss of hard/soft power. Even if the number of theaters shrinks worldwide, there are still major markets (India, China) whose main entertainment is going out of the house and watching a movie, and streaming gaining traction currently means more Korean products and less interest in American stuff.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ALOT of people who’ve been working for 20+ years are now unemployed or can’t find work in hollywood
    Good

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >like ALOT of people who’ve been working for 20+ years are now unemployed or can’t find work in hollywood

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    America is in a recession and can’t afford to see every single movie in theaters. Especially when the tickets are twenty-thirty dollars.
    And not everyone has the money for every streaming service.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you're in a high position or actively working, and your job requires tons of engagement and isn't some slop job manufacturing manual labor stuff a child could do, literally, a child could do it if laws didn't exist that say it's illegal for anyone under 16 to enter a trade school, then it is not healthy what so ever to work more than 20 years unless you are consistently producing banger after banger, there's a reason the term "career ending" exists.
    In general, unless you're sure of what you want to do, don't turn art into a career, do what you want, and then retire and live off royalties.
    Commodifying art into a massive system of positions is going to only end in collapse.

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