Having to watch over Stolas at his house because Blitzo says so and blah blah blah Moxxie and Millie overhear the bird woman screeching about how trash their marriage is and then Moxxie speaks up and says maybe they should take notes from them since they've been married for a year and have a "perfect marriage". Pretty easy scenario really
>30 year old boomer
He's actually a millenial, paimon was a boomer.
Gotta love millenials love being a snowflake so much they pretend they're forever 20 and boomer age just keeps getting lowered
Unironically, I liked the last episode but I feel like they tried too hard to make Stolas blameless/the victim in all of his relationships. His marriage being arranged/loveless was already implied but his "working relationship" with Blitzo was funnier when it felt like he was the one using the book to get Blitzo, not Blitzo using stolas to get the book.
I would agree if Octavia wasn't a factor. Even if Stolas felt justified in fricking Blitzo because Stella is a b***h, his reckless behavior still traumatized his daughter, who he DOES care about, and he's entirely at fault for that.
>30 year old boomer
He's actually a millenial, paimon was a boomer.
Gotta love millenials love being a snowflake so much they pretend they're forever 20 and boomer age just keeps getting lowered
>dat feel when older than Stolas
I honestly thought he was suppose to be several thousand years old. But in demon years still pushing around his mid-40's.
Dude is like only 34 years old.
To put things in context, Stolas is only around 35. Charlie is 200 years old. Alastor is around 120 years old. Vox died in the 1950s, Valentino died in 1970s. Stolas is really young all things considered.
I thought Stolas was 45 or something. Mid-life crisis sort of shit since he is a gay dude married to a woman and had a kid. That was a more interesting angle than SAAAAAAAD.
I think what they might be doing is making the Goetia family reuse the names of the goetian demons over and over, keeping each "job" with its corresponding name
Would certainly explain why our Stolas is an owl when the one described in the Lesser Key is a raven
Viv confirmed demon royalty is immortal and can only be killed by angels or angelic weapons.
People assumed because of this that Stolas was very old.
Hell at least a few hundred years old.
Being in his mid 30's seems kinda silly in terms of lore.
Yes, and yet Paimon has a lot of children, pushed Stolas to have a child, and Stolas is named after a demon appearing in the Lesser Key of Solomon
This leads to the conclusion that they still die somewhat frequently
Now, just how they die is something we can only speculate. Maybe they get hit by the yearly purges somewhat often? Maybe they can't be killed but still grow old (so either Viv meant "unkillable" rather than actually "immortal" or that has since been retconned to be that way)? Who knows, really
Probably murdered by other high ranking rivals. I could see demon royalty being very cut throat.
I mean Stella literally is trying to have Stolas killed right now.
>Maybe they get hit by the yearly purges somewhat often?
Shot from Hazbin pilot showed presumably some royalty opening up from a locked down building, they probably ride out the purges in thier fancy panic rooms while the dregs outside get slaughtered
2 years ago
Anonymous
The purge only affects the upper ring of hell. The earthborn sinners are trapped on that ring. Every other demon can freely travel to other rings.
So they would just go to the lower rings of hell to be safe.
Only a very stupid demon would risk staying on that ring the day of the purge.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just some rich buttholes then, I dunno
2 years ago
Anonymous
Depends on if the angels actually target the demon aristocracy or if they’re there to serve some greater purpose in the sucks of life and death. Like I imagine if Hell can become overpopulated, so could Heaven, so the purge may be a function of Lucifer not doing his job. Like there is some grand cycle of reincarnation or an after-after-life or whatever, and God has his shit locked down in his role, passing souls in heaven to wherever they are supposed to go next. Meanwhile, Lucifer, being a headstrong rebel, gave God the finger and let’s Hell run itself. Because no one uses Hell as a time to reflect or rehabilitate before moving on, they can’t, so the purge is forcing the universes hand because one way or another those souls are moving on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure Vic said Lucifer works with Heaven to coordinate the purge. I guess he could probably setup high ranking demons royalty to also get taken out, if he thinks they are becoming too powerful and may become a threat to him.
Some lesser-ranking nobles probably offed by Alastor. Stolas was not even alive for that whole killing spree incident though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alastor is strong compared to earthborn sinners. I don't think he would be stupid enough to off demons that are connected to powerful families. Because some of those higher ranking demons would be vastly more powerful than he is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I thought so too initially, but the new episode changed things around for sure. At least a chunk of the Goetia are not fallen angels, they're just species that were born in hell and into wealth. Paimon has so many children that he doesn't even remember them, and having many children + a "precautionary heir" granddaughter seems to indicate that nobles getting offed exists as a real possibility. We only really know that Alastor holds respect for Lucifer, and that's probably about it.
>This leads to the conclusion that
Vivzie didn't fully think her setting through and is just making shit up on the spot in service of the story. Which, granted, can be a valid way of approaching a story as a writer, but it also likely means there's no real answer to your question until she makes one up.
maybe the Goetias (the ones with power and who are an actual royalty, not like Stella) reach certain age and stop their aging and become immortal. otherwise this lore that Stolas is mortal sucks.
why the frick are powerful demons lords age like humans
well, Stella isnt based on any demon from Lesser Key of Solomon, unlike her brother. I'm talking about these Goetias, the ones who have names from irl demonology
Not really, I'm just surprised how it could be a possibility knowing how hard the staff lost their shit over the Stolas x Octavia art they saw.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Most incest posters kinda stopped showing up because of the diaper spam. Too bad we have gay spam now by some schizo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fricking your 6th cousin thrice removed is one thing, fricking your beloved daughter that you've repeatedly established to be your entire world is another beast altogether
2 years ago
Anonymous
Incest is Relative but still. You get my point. >you've repeatedly established to be your entire world
Some people like having their world rocked.
It was a filler ass episode to make Stolas better, it was utterly uninteresting.
Also it completely ignore Stella had no choice in the marriage either and is forced to keep going out of pride and 'what will the others say?'
Stolas and Blitz being the same age is kinda weird. Stolas was a bit funnier and a little cuter when it was thought that he was like, millenia old at this point and still acting like a schoolgirl with a crush
Its really just this simple >doing something self destructive because you're emotional and dont know better
Cringe >doing something self destructive deliberately and with complete self awareness just because you can and want to
Based
Yeah, I dig serious Stolas like when he saved IMP from the agents. He works when he’s a fancy powerful aristocrat indulging himself at Blitzo’s expense. It feels like the last episode was a turn around of Blitzo just using Stolas to get to some good loot/the grimoire and Stolas is such a sad sack he thinks this is positive attention.
I kind of get Stella ragging on him to her brother because holy shit is he a limp dicked waste of a bird demon so starved of daddies attention he’ll let a fricking imp stick his dick up his ass.
When he saved IMP from the agents he should have kept the seriousness and calmness, giving him an intimidating aura to show how scary he can be when he needs to be. It did thought feel disproportionate given the MIB were so ineffectual that it was like trying to scare lemmings. If it was towards particularly scummy and dangerous people like Striker then I could see it being more proportionate.
I disagree. I can understand wanting to expand your worldbuilding by giving side characters more depth, but the only thing I care about and really remember about him is that his magic book lets him visit the human world, and he’s considered as Hell Royalty; the only thing that matters then is his relationship with Blitzo—or really vice-versa—as a way of explaining why Blitzo is allowed to use the book to begin with.
I liked the show because of the original idea: the small company made up of a couple people that gets into trouble going into the real world when they assassinate somebody, and these character’s interaction / banter with each other. idc about Stolas, especially when he makes the episode have a musical in it.
The gay foreplay scene with Stolas and Blitz felt feels so painfully accurate to what sex is like to me that it made me feel very, very strange things and also a scared suspicioun that vivzie is spying on me.
Do all gay bottoms act that way before they get fricked?
I have experience, foreplay typically starts with me teasing, being seductive and up-front with my desires, then once the top's almonds are activated and begins teasing me back or grabbing me, I melt into a buttery mess of excitement and embarrassment, and then once he goes in for a money shot, I let out my pent up feelings of desire and lust and beg for their domination and the feeling it makes me feel when I'm desired.
It was all so painfully accurate it was weird. Especially since my ex, too, was a liar who just manipulated me for the duration of our relationship despite making me feel safe and comfortable.
The gay foreplay scene with Stolas and Blitz felt feels so painfully accurate to what sex is like to me that it made me feel very, very strange things and also a scared suspicioun that vivzie is spying on me.
Do all gay bottoms act that way before they get fricked?
I don't feel any emotion during sex. For me foreplay just an act I learned from watching porn and romcoms. A set of instructions I autistically follow
The gay foreplay scene with Stolas and Blitz felt feels so painfully accurate to what sex is like to me that it made me feel very, very strange things and also a scared suspicioun that vivzie is spying on me.
Do all gay bottoms act that way before they get fricked?
I have experience, foreplay typically starts with me teasing, being seductive and up-front with my desires, then once the top's almonds are activated and begins teasing me back or grabbing me, I melt into a buttery mess of excitement and embarrassment, and then once he goes in for a money shot, I let out my pent up feelings of desire and lust and beg for their domination and the feeling it makes me feel when I'm desired.
It was all so painfully accurate it was weird. Especially since my ex, too, was a liar who just manipulated me for the duration of our relationship despite making me feel safe and comfortable.
>these are the people I share this board with
Makes me ashamed of being bi. It kills me that some people can actually relate to these awful characters.
Fricking dregs of society.
I'm still firmly convinced that Viv will slap us across the face with a Stella redemption arc in the latter half of the season just to emotionally frick with us. But... assuming she doesn't have the cahones for that, I think Blitzo and Stolas can work, they just need to move on from the baggage currently holding them back. Stolas with Stella and Blitzo with Fizz, Verosika and his childhood. Blitz has a lot of work to do.
She’s a fujo meaning she’s incapable of sympathizing with female characters that get in the way of her gay ship. I felt like I was reading a fanfic written by a 14 year old in the 2010s or a boomer that calls every woman that isn’t a doormat a karen,
If she didn't have another show coming out where the lead is a bisexual woman in a relationship with a lesbian I think there definitely would've been a "Does Vivzie hate women?" video essay by now.
You guys keep saying stuff like this as if this is a fanfiction, or sequel to a work they didn't create. Like all of the characters were established, and they had no choice but to work around it. If they had wanted to write a story about a gay relationship where there was no one else in the way, they would have done that. They created this story. A story about a gay man in an arranged marriage with a horrible woman is the story they wanted to write. Stella isn't "in the way" of their ship. She was intentionally placed there as a narrative obstacle.
That's what a lot of people don't get. Stella doesn't have much depth because the story isn't about her. She's important in so far as her actions and self affect Blitz, Stolas and Octavia, that's about it.
>Like all of the characters were established
Stella was clearly already stablished as being just mad about Stola's rampant cheating on her, ruining the family without him showing a shred of remorse. Then this new episode just had to retcon her into being an uber b***h 24/7 for us to feel so bad for homosexual owl >They created this story
So? Just because they made it doesnt mean theyre doing a good job or choosing the best direction for it
>Stella was clearly already stablished as being just mad about Stola's rampant cheating on her, ruining the family without him showing a shred of remorse. Then this new episode just had to retcon her into being an uber b***h 24/7 for us to feel so bad for homosexual owl
You're projecting nuance onto her that was never there. She's always been an uber b***h.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>muh retcon
Stella was a b***h from day one but Stellagays were either too horny or too smoothbrained to notice
Her only characteristic wasn't that she's an uber b***h any more than Stolas' only characteristic is he's gay. Before the new episode, there was the expectation the writers would ortray Stella's side of the marriage in a respectful way like they had done for Stolas. That's why he has actual depth, but instead Stella is written as an iredeemable b***h from the start who is the main reason their marriage is in the dumps, and who only exists as an obstacle between Stolas and Blitzo getting together. They could get rid of Stella entirely and just make it so Stolas was bored of his duties and decided to frick a low class imp or something, and they'd still have almost the same story and drama.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That WAS her only characteristic the whole time and Stellagays just shut their eyes and plugged their ears to all the evidence even when it was pointed out to them. They have no one but themselves to blame for their disappointment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get destroyed >Just repeat cope
Lol, Fujo gays are mind broken.
>there was the expectation
Not for most of the fandom. Jyst you stellagays. Most of us had predicted that she was abusive.
>Most us
Every non-Yaoi prostitute agree it's shit regardless of Stella. Your shitty ship will NEVER compensate for good writing, never ever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>there was the expectation
Not for most of the fandom. Jyst you stellagays. Most of us had predicted that she was abusive.
>muh retcon
Stella was a b***h from day one but Stellagays were either too horny or too smoothbrained to notice
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get objectively true criticism >M-m-m-muh
Cope. We get it, you are moronic and want your shitty UwU gays but nobody cares. It's badly written and filled with retcons.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get destroyed >Just repeat cope
Lol, Fujo gays are mind broken.
[...] >Most us
Every non-Yaoi prostitute agree it's shit regardless of Stella. Your shitty ship will NEVER compensate for good writing, never ever.
>You slept with an IMP!? In our fricking bed! >It was unexpected! There was no time to go to a hotel! >A HOTEL? Like a fricking PLEBIAN?
This was very clearly planned from the beginning.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She literally mentions that Blitzo is an imp like 4 times. She doesn't care that he cheated, she cares that it was with someone of a lower status (and that it got out).
2 years ago
Anonymous
Plus it was such a casual reveal every time it happened, Blitzo always just says
"Oh sorry, I fricked your husband" with the same tonality if he knocked over a houseplant and got dirt on the floor
>Like all of the characters were established
Stella was clearly already stablished as being just mad about Stola's rampant cheating on her, ruining the family without him showing a shred of remorse. Then this new episode just had to retcon her into being an uber b***h 24/7 for us to feel so bad for homosexual owl >They created this story
So? Just because they made it doesnt mean theyre doing a good job or choosing the best direction for it
[...]
Her only characteristic wasn't that she's an uber b***h any more than Stolas' only characteristic is he's gay. Before the new episode, there was the expectation the writers would ortray Stella's side of the marriage in a respectful way like they had done for Stolas. That's why he has actual depth, but instead Stella is written as an iredeemable b***h from the start who is the main reason their marriage is in the dumps, and who only exists as an obstacle between Stolas and Blitzo getting together. They could get rid of Stella entirely and just make it so Stolas was bored of his duties and decided to frick a low class imp or something, and they'd still have almost the same story and drama.
>my headcanon interpretation of the show wasn't actually true so the show sucks now
Stellagays are mentally ill
>STELLAgayS, STELLAgayS, STELLAgayS
It may not have been a retcon, but it's still a really shitty direction to take the story going from "this is some heavy shit, we'll have to figure out how they could make it work" to "LOL THEY WERE MEANT TO BE TOGETHER! BIRB BOY DID NOTHING WRONG!" People like you are why shit like Homestuck^2 fell apart. You would rather shit on people for daring to defend a character being fricked up than to recognize that the story around the pairing is badly written.
Don't you dare compare Stolitz to that trashfire. It's still a complicated relationship that's gonna take some work, Stolas is in a position of power over Blitzo which Blitzo is very clearly aware of and not happy about. Then there's Blitzo's own personal issues of pushing loved ones away to avoid getting hurt.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Stolas thinks he's in charge because Blitzo wants the book and he can get fricked to merely loan out a shelfwarmer >Blitzo thinks he's in charge because he can get Stolas' magical book in exchange for occasional sex
Seems like the core of their relationship comes from the politics of the book. Wonder what happens if the book gets destroyed or is no longer needed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's pretty good art
2 years ago
Anonymous
>had to shove a sudden childhood friends to lovers, and kill any and all agency Stolas has because the writers really, really, REALLY want you to feel bad for their bird demon oc
Anon, it's both trash.
You people are literally assblasted over things not going your way but you're also lying and framing it as if certain things were established when it was only in your fricking heads. You're waifugayging over a bird monster you barely knew, pretending she was this great person and the creator of the show suddenly made her shitty when that's not what happened. But you're still obnoxiously insisting that's what happened anyway and expecting people to take it seriously. >OMG WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT MY HEADCANON UR LITERALLY RUINING THE SHOW
Fricking annoying c**ts
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mate, when the frick did I say Stella was a good person? Do you just assume that anyone who doesn't like this episode is a Stellagay? Don't put words into the mouths of anyone who disagrees with you, you moron. I'm not saying it's bad because Stella isn't an "uwu sad girl" since that shit died when she hired Striker. I'm saying it's bad because the narrative is being dumbed down for this glorified Lifetime Movie bullshit. This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit. Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this. >Y-YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE YOUR BIRD WAIFU DOESN'T FIT YOUR HEADCANON ANYMORE
Shut the frick up. I have a list of girls I'd frick in this show and I have my doubts Stella is anywhere on that list. Quit letting them live rent-free in your head.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Mate, when the frick did I say Stella was a good person
I said you people (as in general) are acting LIKE she was a good person because you people keep saying her character was done wrong or this is fricking character assassination when again you literally didn't know enough about her much less as a good person for this to be the case. You're also ironically complaining about the creators choice of shipping while pushing headcanon in a way shippers are notorious for. You're pretending your opinion is fact and again everyone should accept it or they're ruining the show, but you see nothing wrong with this. Get fricked.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again, when the frick did I say anything like that? I literally just told you Stella being an "uwu sad girl" died when she hired Striker. If anything, you're the one pretending that your own opinion is fact and that people should just accept it or "get fricked." Again, they're living rent-free in your head. I'm sorry that I don't blindly ship the bird and imp boys together and that I'm "ruining your fun" as a result. Fricking gag me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Again, when the frick did I say anything like that? >If anything, you're the one pretending that your own opinion is fact
Mate, when the frick did I say Stella was a good person? Do you just assume that anyone who doesn't like this episode is a Stellagay? Don't put words into the mouths of anyone who disagrees with you, you moron. I'm not saying it's bad because Stella isn't an "uwu sad girl" since that shit died when she hired Striker. I'm saying it's bad because the narrative is being dumbed down for this glorified Lifetime Movie bullshit. This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit. Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this. >Y-YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE YOUR BIRD WAIFU DOESN'T FIT YOUR HEADCANON ANYMORE
Shut the frick up. I have a list of girls I'd frick in this show and I have my doubts Stella is anywhere on that list. Quit letting them live rent-free in your head.
>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit >Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this
Genuinely have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Genuinely have a nice day
No, you fricking end it, you fricking clown. I don't follow your garbage narrative as fact.
>Stolitzcucks pretending that it's a genuinely healthy relationship
More headcanon
Exactly. It's all headcanon bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I literally pointed to where you pretended your opinion was fact, you dumb piece of shit. Linked the post and quoted you. Oh but what that wasn't you now? Fricking idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit >Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this
That's me making a prediction, you fricking yolk, and you're the fricking idiot if you unironically believe that the Meant to Be cliche is good. Who's the fricking schizo here.
no one is pretending, stop your schizo ramblings
We know it's not a healthy relationship. I've never seen anyone defending it as a healthy relationship.
I've mostly seen it on Twitter and YouTube. If I made it seem like this was every Stolitzgay, I'm sorry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
wow you found people saying moronic shit on the internet? color me fricking shocked
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's the fricking game for this shit, sadly.
Stop pretending you're just making a prediction when you're repeatedly saying it's shit and others are adding to the shit because they won't agree with you on that. And your so called prediction involves knowing what others like and they're going to somehow come crying to (You) as if you matter that much. Man you're fricking stupid.
You defending this shit is enabling more garbage writing, mate, and I've seen shows fall apart before. I know I'm not saying some groundbreaking phenomenon. I'm just calling it what I think it is: Shit. Quit trying to act like I'm the moron here when you're the one assblasted that I didn't like this story.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you're the one assblasted that I didn't like this story
It's not just you not liking it that's a problem when you have to try and tell others what they should or shouldn't like while doing it you disingenuous b***h. I don't even ship the two but it was fine and made enough sense based on what we knew. It's not a healthy relationship and they make it obvious but it's interesting enough.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This. I wish people understood that we like the story because we find the dynamic interesting, not because we think it's ideal romance.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Exactly, only twitterinas feel morally compelled to only ship "pure" relationships and to warp anything they like into fitting their definition of that.
I'm a fan of lovey-dovey art myself, being a moegay, but that is very obviously not their current dynamic and I'm excited that their messy relationship is getting properly explored in the show itself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>when you have to try and tell others what they should or shouldn't like
Where exactly did that happen? Seriously; find me a single quote in this reply thread telling other people what they should or shouldn't like.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>find me a single quote in this reply thread telling other people what they should or shouldn't like
>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit >Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this
That's me making a prediction, you fricking yolk, and you're the fricking idiot if you unironically believe that the Meant to Be cliche is good. Who's the fricking schizo here.
[...]
[...]
I've mostly seen it on Twitter and YouTube. If I made it seem like this was every Stolitzgay, I'm sorry.
>>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit
That statement is addressing the quality of the writing, which is a different matter than whether or not you should like the show.
You can like a piece of media for its themes while admitting that it's objectively shit on a technical level. Like a piece of art that you love because it depicts exactly the sort of scenario that gets you horny, even though it was clearly drawn by an amateur.
You can also dislike something for its themes while admitting that on an objective level it's technically superb. Like a piece of porn that's really well drawn but which you hate because it's about a really disgusting fetish.
If you like the stolitz ship on a thematic level, fine, but that doesn't preclude you from recognizing that on a technical level it's written like shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's funny to see you prove that 99% of what you're losing your mind about is just you being a schizo who can't read and doesn't understand what good writing is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're so mad it's funny.
This. I wish people understood that we like the story because we find the dynamic interesting, not because we think it's ideal romance.
Don't pass the whole thread screaming it is ideal then and defending actual substance and conflict being written out of the story.
Exactly, only twitterinas feel morally compelled to only ship "pure" relationships and to warp anything they like into fitting their definition of that.
I'm a fan of lovey-dovey art myself, being a moegay, but that is very obviously not their current dynamic and I'm excited that their messy relationship is getting properly explored in the show itself.
Nice of you to admit you're a Twitterina then cause you've had a hours long meltdown over people accurately pointing the shitty writing and retcons that whitewashed your UwU gay boys..
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop pretending you're just making a prediction when you're repeatedly saying it's shit and others are adding to the shit because they won't agree with you on that. And your so called prediction involves knowing what others like and they're going to somehow come crying to (You) as if you matter that much. Man you're fricking stupid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Twitter and YouTube
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Linked the post!!!
The post you linked doesn't prove your point, Yaoi cuck. >Fricking idiot.
That's what you are, yes.
wow you found people saying moronic shit on the internet? color me fricking shocked
>Cope the whole thread about their shit ship being perfect >W-w-w-we never said anything like that
Cope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I accused you of something
Yes and that accusation against him was bullshit so what's your point?
It is character assassination to badly write a conflict by making it 100% someone's fault when the conflict obviously started as 'they are both awful, because this is hell and they are demons'.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You're pretending your opinion is fact and again everyone should accept it
You're pretending facts are opinions and every should accept this garbage. Keep seething while everyone else acknowledge it's going to shit.
>Again, when the frick did I say anything like that? >If anything, you're the one pretending that your own opinion is fact
[...] >This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit >Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this
Genuinely have a nice day
Lol, seethe harder.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You missed the point entirely. Only Stolas felt like it was meant to be, Blitzo was using him from the very beginning, all the way back when they were kids. Their entire relationship is built on a lie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know that it's toxic, mate, and yet, we have the Stolitzcucks pretending that it's a genuinely healthy relationship and totally an escape for the sad birb boy. I'm just annoyed that we have these shitters screaming at people for daring to criticize the ship.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Stolitzcucks pretending that it's a genuinely healthy relationship
More headcanon
2 years ago
Anonymous
We know it's not a healthy relationship. I've never seen anyone defending it as a healthy relationship.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no one is pretending, stop your schizo ramblings
2 years ago
Anonymous
You never said it but the voices in their head told them you did and that's all that matters, otherwise they wouldn't be able to defend this shit.
Don't you dare compare Stolitz to that trashfire. It's still a complicated relationship that's gonna take some work, Stolas is in a position of power over Blitzo which Blitzo is very clearly aware of and not happy about. Then there's Blitzo's own personal issues of pushing loved ones away to avoid getting hurt.
>Don't you dare point out my gay ship is a trashfire!
Lol, no. Literally rich owl going Harvey Weinstein on an Imp who use the occasion to start a business. It's a trash fire of epic propartion.
You people are literally assblasted over things not going your way but you're also lying and framing it as if certain things were established when it was only in your fricking heads. You're waifugayging over a bird monster you barely knew, pretending she was this great person and the creator of the show suddenly made her shitty when that's not what happened. But you're still obnoxiously insisting that's what happened anyway and expecting people to take it seriously. >OMG WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT MY HEADCANON UR LITERALLY RUINING THE SHOW
Fricking annoying c**ts
>Y-y-you're assblasted!! >*Throw a tantrum*
You're so mad everyone can recognize that shit is badly written.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>reveal puts earlier scenes in a new light >includes things that many fans were predicting based on hints/foreshadowing >MUH RETCON
I've been saying for months that Stolas is gay, Stella is abusive, their marriage was arranged, and Blitzo initially seduced Stolas to steal the book, but Stellacucks just kept repeating how we couldn't know for sure because we didn't get it spoonfed to us onscreen. Now it has been, and you're just assmad about being proven wrong. Your waifu sucks and the show has a gay romance, get over it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>'New light' >Change every single detail and background about it
Yes, that's a retcon.
Cool, your headcanon made it into the show, doesn't change anything anyone said. >G-g-g-g-get over it
How about you get over the objective fact that this is bad writing and a mess of retcons? Oh wait, you can't because you feel your headcanon being close to what the mess the story eneded up being is an accomplishment. What a sad life. >gay romance
Married to a woman and had a kid, he's bi, pal. How about you get over that too?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do tell us what background details were changed. And no headcanon shit. Stuff that's actually in the show only.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Stuff that's actually in the show only.
You mean like the literal scene they changed the whole context too? That we literally see in the episode?
Do you even know what a retcon is?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm still waiting to hear what they changed
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think you know what a retcon is, retcons create plot holes. Rewatch the first season, everything still makes sense. >arranged marriage >wife had to take initiative while he just lay back and thought of England >not gay
How old are you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>retcons create plot holes
No, they don't. Thanks for outright telling me you don't know what a retcon is without a single doubt.
Here's the actual definition of a retcon: a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift. >Subs are not proactive in bed and women don't tend to understand that
You never had sex with men OR women, did you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're talking to an anon trying to defend the honor of a gay ship on fricking Cinemaphile. Obviously they never had sex.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except, again, there were plenty of hints leading up to this episode, they were just easy to miss for speedwatchers
>You slept with an IMP!? In our fricking bed! >It was unexpected! There was no time to go to a hotel! >A HOTEL? Like a fricking PLEBIAN?
This was very clearly planned from the beginning.
>Subs are not proactive in bed and women don't tend to understand that
He was literally bouncing Blitzo on his ass and making dirty talk, that's pretty proactive
2 years ago
Anonymous
There weren't. Random nonsense that didn't fit what we saw in the episode aren't hints.
I think you're confused, Stella being mad because he is cheating with an Imp rather than cheating at all is obvious and in no way a retcon. Her always being a raging b***h to him and treating him WORSE before he cheated at weird 'Not-Divorce' parties that were clear threats to dump his ass IS the retcon, because it make no sense. It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted and it's CLEARLY not what the previous episodes were about or portraying.
Also funny how you're dodging admitting what a retcon actually is.
>Also Verosilka and Blitzo's relationship wasn't credible,
But Stella and Stolas' was?
What is that even supposed to mean?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If it doesn't fit my narrative it's just random nonsense
Cope
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I can't answer any of the actual post so I'll just whine about 2 words
Seethe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If I repeat my bullshit enough times that makes it true!
Speedwatcher
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Literally get shat on for repeating himself >Try to accuse someone else of repeating themselves
Lol. Lmao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get pointed directly to proof that Stella was always a shit wife >"NO THAT DOESN'T COUNT"
You lost. Get over it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Can't answer what I actually said >Make up a fake discussion in his head to cope. >Y-y-y-you lost
I accept your absolutely pathetic admission of your destruction.
Get over it? You mean like you can't get over having a multi-hour long meltdown just because you don't know what a retcon is?
episode could be shit for all I care but Stella was never shown in a positive light thorough the whole show. Even in season 1 she was shown to be an absolute b***h so it made sense for stolas to cheat because why would anyone want her, but dont worry shell get a shitty redemption
>episode could be shit for all I care
Stop desperately defending it then. >Stella was never shown in a positive light thorough the whole show.
Not the point at all. >dont worry shell get a shitty redemption
Nobody cares. You really need to accept that nobody shitting on the garbage filler episode that whitewash your gay ship cares about Stella cause it's pathetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You still have yet to even say where the retcon was. It's like you're going out of your way to avoid answering it
2 years ago
Anonymous
I literally did earlier as well as showing you a definition of the word because your dumbass didn't even know what it means, going on about some nonsense about plot holes. You know, the shit you're desperately trying to dance around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they changed the whole context
>Stuff that's actually in the show only.
You mean like the literal scene they changed the whole context too? That we literally see in the episode?
Do you even know what a retcon is?
There weren't. Random nonsense that didn't fit what we saw in the episode aren't hints.
I think you're confused, Stella being mad because he is cheating with an Imp rather than cheating at all is obvious and in no way a retcon. Her always being a raging b***h to him and treating him WORSE before he cheated at weird 'Not-Divorce' parties that were clear threats to dump his ass IS the retcon, because it make no sense. It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted and it's CLEARLY not what the previous episodes were about or portraying.
Also funny how you're dodging admitting what a retcon actually is.
[...]
What is that even supposed to mean?
>It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted
There weren't. Random nonsense that didn't fit what we saw in the episode aren't hints.
I think you're confused, Stella being mad because he is cheating with an Imp rather than cheating at all is obvious and in no way a retcon. Her always being a raging b***h to him and treating him WORSE before he cheated at weird 'Not-Divorce' parties that were clear threats to dump his ass IS the retcon, because it make no sense. It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted and it's CLEARLY not what the previous episodes were about or portraying.
Also funny how you're dodging admitting what a retcon actually is.
[...]
What is that even supposed to mean?
Can't you read?
She’s a fujo meaning she’s incapable of sympathizing with female characters that get in the way of her gay ship. I felt like I was reading a fanfic written by a 14 year old in the 2010s or a boomer that calls every woman that isn’t a doormat a karen,
If she didn't have another show coming out where the lead is a bisexual woman in a relationship with a lesbian I think there definitely would've been a "Does Vivzie hate women?" video essay by now.
>viv viv viv viv-
this is all brandon's frickery, not (totally) hers
but of course, you all forgot that he's part of the writing team, and that you must NEVER allow the one who voices the main character anywhere near that group, or else he or she will bend the whole story towards themselves, or in this case, his personal life
Brandon needs an outlet for his more dramatic stuff and for some reason Helluva Boss is what that’s becoming. Viv certainly isn’t helping matters either if she’s just allowing it to happen.
Not based on what they showed. Blitz can't maintain a relationship and he doesn't even seem to like Stolas. Ever since they were kids it was a one sided thing. Blitz only uses him to get money or get into places and sees sex with him as a chore.
i hope not
its a show about hell and blitzo is a massive piece of shit, i dont want a happy ending
is it too much to ask that one show doesnt get the disney ending?
>is it too much to ask that one show doesnt get the disney ending?
Yes, because it's not just this one show. Nowadays, bittersweet endings are all the rage, even disney keeps going out of its way to be subversive.
Even if they both get their shit sorted between eachother, Stolas will be kicked out of the Goetia family because a relationship between royalty and an imp commoner would never be accepted, i can see Stolas getting fricked hard in the coming episodes, i think his father is going to take his powers away and banish him, then Blitzo is forces to take Stolas in where they live together as roommates, imagineStolas becoming even more of a depressed huck since not only will he be losing his powers, but he probably won't see his daughter Octavia again, or at least for a long time.
Stolas will then end up in the paradoxical situation of needing BLITZO to support him for once. The power dynamic will flip, as Stolas won't have his riches and such to fall back on.
Then Blitzo will realize that even WITHOUT his power and status, Stolas still loves him.
I like this design where her eye gets taken out
I do like that Martha is more evil-looking and hideous than Mayberry here. Her color scheme is more unhinged and her features aren't nearly as smooth & polished.
I think it's just setting up for a very gruesome and traumatic scene where his arms get torn off and there's blood everywhere. And it's also probably Blitzo's fault.
Honestly that would have made for a fun show/episode to make Blitzo be fleshed out beyond his relationships regarding his member. His and Loona's relationship was better than any other he has shown.
For as much as I jest about this show, I just want to see them do more with Loona. It's what I look forward to the most.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I’d expect moxxie and Stella to actually have a solid interaction, their eloquent stick up the ass is a common feature
God I hope they get more attention and focus. Not this sad sack melodrama that loudly and busily nowhere
2 years ago
Anonymous
They’re entitled to one angst episode per season and we got it an part 1 and this new episode so it better not keep coming
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah i'm sure they have plans for her, as art of Blitzo's charachter growth maybe? he seems to be overcompensating as a parent seeing how his dad was.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Loona and Blitzo appear to have an episode dedicated to them this season. I assume it will touch more on their backstory and relationship.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Blitzo killed her parents when she was little
He took care of her like the parents did to leela in futurama
something bad dramatic happened and he has to reveal himself to her
she has to go to heaven so he made her commit a sin to keep her
2 years ago
Anonymous
It would be a twist if we find out Loona was a orphan because Blitzo killed her parents. And he adopted her years later out guilty.
2 years ago
Anonymous
she would hate him if she ever found out >Loona darling they wanted you to go to heaven I had to make you steal
2 years ago
Anonymous
Going to make a wild theory that Loona's backstory has something to do with her being part of the Goetia family. >can somehow read the grimoire >has a fairly similar color palette to Stolas/Paimon >Paimon mentions Stolas being "the OWL boy" in the recent episode, possibly alluding to him being the father of other species he forgot about
So she gets orphaned because she's yet another bastard child that wasn't wanted, and is later adopted possibly at the recommendation of Stolas.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>has a fairly similar color palette to Stolas/Paimon
That's because Vivzie's main characters in HH/HB use the exact same color palette of just four fricking colors: red, yellow, white, and black. Once in a blue moon there will also be some major side character or background character character with some blue-green in their palette, but that's just about the most creative she ever gets with color in these shows.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>recommendation of Stolas
Impossible, Loona was adopted at age 17, is 22 years old, and Blitzo and Stolas haven't seen each other in 25 years
2 years ago
Anonymous
Didn't she say in one of the episodes that she was 17 when Blitz adopted her?
Loona and Blitzo appear to have an episode dedicated to them this season. I assume it will touch more on their backstory and relationship.
I'm pretty sure that this episode was the episode they skipped over. When we got that teaser for season 2 this was the only episode with finished animation, and we see the episode that just got out in it, and it's just antimatics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We were denied dressed up Loona kino for more gay romance garbo
2 years ago
Anonymous
IKR? I want more of Loona and M&M, not their moronic boss and his dysfunctional love life.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>loonagays getting shafted
good, shit charterer is shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please be nice to her.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ben Garrison signature
Never fails to make me laugh
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hopefully we get an episode of her in human form
2 years ago
Anonymous
That much is already confirmed
2 years ago
Anonymous
Viv said they will show that episode eventually.
2 years ago
Anonymous
maybe if someone leaks it but with legal stuff that can take years and years
2 years ago
Anonymous
Loona almost died from that cookie
2 years ago
Anonymous
>chocolate is poisonous to canines
Is Loona moronic?
She doesn't know what a chocolate chip cookie looks like?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wait the girl that is spoiled, constantly sulks, ignores conversation and responsibility, and is addicted to constant social media attention isn't the brightest?
Yes and seems like she doesn't
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is she really spoiled though?
2 years ago
Anonymous
She was raised in an orphanage until she was 17.
Orphans are many things, spoiled isn't one of those things.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They are spoiled if they are pretty
2 years ago
Anonymous
Blitzo has definitely been spoiling her ever since he adopted her. The next episode has Moxxie having to convince him to finally put his foot down on something and she throws a tantrum about it
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like Loona but her tantrum will be fun to see
2 years ago
Anonymous
Same. She hasn't done much besides luring the people at the beach or killing the glowies, it'll be good if there's a situation that legitimately humbles her in some way. It would be especially good if she starts crying and Blitzo tries to be fatherly and says something like "Loony sweety, crying is for little baby dick b***hes and you should be a big dick hellhound"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Loona is how old now?..20..21 (we saw her drinking)
She was 17 when Blitzo adopted her. So for 3 years out of her entire life she's been spoiled.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>(we saw her drinking) >In hell
2 years ago
Anonymous
If fricking people below 18 isnt allowed there alcohol rules probably work similarly
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean even some modern real-world countries like Italy have lower drinking age laws and they think nothing of it, and I haven't seen big protests in Italy to raise drinking ages or something like that. I'm not sure why it logically would be a thing at all in the hazbin universe.
That's the weirdest part about the show, they insist on a facsimile of modern liberal western morals in a place where the only morals should come from morals that assist in survival such as not pissing off people capable of hurting you, not morals instilled by the powers that be. Prisons are a good example of this type of morality, people become super racist in prisons as a mean of protection, even if they weren't racist at all before being imprisoned. You would think the imps would give Blitzo hell for sleeping with an Owl and "betraying his kind" but it's instead a tolerant paradise. It's also surprising Blitzo doesn't leverage Moxxie's pegging fetish against him for anything other than "haha you like it in the butt" teasing more often. Someone seen as effeminate is easier to manipulate because they're convinced they would lose in a fight to you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Someone seen as effeminate is easier to manipulate because they're convinced they would lose in a fight to you.
Maybe in a purely animalistic setting or when unarmed, but with guns even the gaygiest gay in gayland can win a fight. And they have guns.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's the weirdest part about the show, they insist on a facsimile of modern liberal western morals in a place
Yeah, that's just ridiculous. Why the frick would there even laws in Hell beyond 'Don't piss off the big dick demons'? There should barely even be a society beyond what's setup as subtle torture and bait for sinners to hurt themselves with their sins like the drugs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think they said she's 22 in a recent livestream.
2 years ago
Anonymous
22, I'm pretty sure. I think it was revealed in a livestream that Millie is 27 (and the fan wiki lists that too) and there's that line she says in episode 6 about being only "5 years older" than Loona.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wait the girl that is spoiled, constantly sulks, ignores conversation and responsibility, and is addicted to constant social media attention isn't the brightest?
Yes and seems like she doesn't
>Loona confirmed a fricking moron
Also I find it funny a random chocolate chip cookie was just laying around the office. Blitzo wouldn't have them because he knows they are dangerous to Loona. She wouldn't have any because she can't eat them.
So who left a lone cookie out that could have possibly killed Loona?...
2 years ago
Anonymous
She at least had loving care, poor little sexy dumbass
2 years ago
Anonymous
How many traditional dog/wolf behavior habits does Loona actually have
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not sure.
Guess we will see if she gets more screen time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She's got STDs so she fricks a lot
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's probably not canon anymore. It's not impossible but it's hard to imagine a girl who fricks would have no friends at all
2 years ago
Anonymous
Who and when would she frick. The STDs can't possibly be canon anymore.
It never made sense in the first season why Stolas would throw away such a seemingly good thing and go so far for a pretty average imp that he should have seen as lesser. Like even if he was just using him for sex he wouldn't treat him so well. At first it seems like a similar situation to Blitz's first client and her husband in episode 1 but that's obviously misleading again because of how he treats him. So for that reason I thought it was pretty easy to accept what they showed in season 2, it just fits. And like I mentioned before in another thread Stella wasn't enough of a character beyond her fallout with Stolas so I don't understand why I should think she was done wrong in season 2 anymore than any other character written negatively is done wrong by being a piece of shit. I miss the crazy pace of season 1 but I enjoyed seeing the origins of the characters.
>it just fits.
It doesn't, you just have fujo brain.
Stolas threw away shit cause he's a decandent aristocrat in hell, that's it and didn't treat Blitzo all that well, he's just a bottom in bed. First episode literally has him harass Blitzo with unwarranted phone sex.
He didn't even know it was unwanted, that's the irony. It took until episode 7 for him to realize that their relationship was just a business transaction to Blitzo
The phone sex was one of the best gags in the series, Every other word being bleeped out such as "Put your slimy BEEP inside my BEEP and BEEP BEEP it all into a BEEP stew" was great. I wonder if they'll ever release the uncensored audio track in some way.
But he's gay, and he's been shown to not care so much about class differences. He'd most likely just be relieved to get her off his dick
>shit Drake format
Just saw this in the /trash/ thread, this is better
It was funny, yes but it doesn't change what it was telling about their relationship.
Probably distant cousins, like in Fruits Basket
Hot.
But he's gay, and he's been shown to not care so much about class differences. He'd most likely just be relieved to get her off his dick
He's a demon and could get it up to have a kid. Stella is just probably mad about him being a bottom and Stolas badly communicating that than it being about him genuinely not being able to get hard. >He'd most likely just be relieved to get her off his dick
No because if that happens, it's to get a reaction out of Stolas and if he doesn't give one, you wasted episode time. It's also a lot funnier if the conclusion of that whole storyline is Stolas going back to Stella because 'Hey, I'm Hell Royalty, that's just how we are, if we were different, Hell wouldn't be such a mess', fit a lot better with the general vibe of the universe, similar to Angel Dust ruining Charlie's TV apparition by getting in a turf war.
Her debut episode establishes her biggest fear was him running off wit Blitz and abandoning her. Of course she doesn't hate him, she thinks he's kinda a dork but she's a huge daddys girl.
No. Octavia’s purpose in the story is to demonstrate how the fight between Stella and Stolas (and by extension familial drama in general) impacts the innocents they care for. Stolas and Stella hate each other, but Octavia is still their daughter, so hurting each other hurts her.
Also arguably there to demonstrate how the pursuit of your own happiness impacts those around you.
>Blitzo's brother is disgusted by blood in hell >Blitzo has a problem stealing when first confronted in hell >marriage in hell >and so much more
what the hell is Viv smoking?
they are born in hell, not sinners who end up there after being POS. so they start out more "normal" i think, ending up corrupted by the literal hell they live in
i had the same issue with this episode
i guess the imp circle of hell is meant to be much tamer than the sinners one
It makes sense. Imps are just born there, but sinners get there only by being absolute degenerate monsters. If imps shelter their kids from that shit, it makes sense that some would grow up relatively innocent. Of course eventually they will come in contact with those buttholes and become buttholes themselves.
This. I get that demons aren't supposed to be intrinsically "evil" in this universe, but it would be good if Vivzie could give a concrete vision of what her demons are supposed to be instead that helps make sense of all the different behaviors we're seeing from them.
The worst part is that Hazbin Hotel didn't have this problem, the citizens of Pentagram City were shown to be buttholes, and the infrastructure supported their behaviors. (Legal prostitution, massive turf wars over nothing, drugs in vending machines) but not in Helluva Boss. Suddenly we're in some weird morality filled subdimension, not Hell actual.
HH still has some characters who seem perfectly nice even though they were apparently bad enough to be sent to hell (Vaggie, Niffty) and it would be nice to have an explanation for why they're in there.
Actually, an explanation of how the afterlife works in general is really necessary. They're kinda using everyone's familiarity with the idea of hell as a crutch to get by without explaining much, which they could probably get away with if they either stuck more closely to the standard understanding of hell or else didn't have hell as the central location of their show, but they did neither so at some point they're going to have to explain how this shit actually works.
>Vaggie
She clearly has anger issues and is a dyke. She's probably the first sinner Charlie got to chill the frick out. >Niffty
Hellborn servant summoned by a higher demon.
>The worst part is that Hazbin Hotel didn't have this problem
Are you sure? Angel is a tsundere twink crying about his life in a song despite being 30s mafia or something. It's clearly just the writer's fluffy yaoi sensibilities.
Those are the sinners. The imps, that are native to wherever Hell is, are basically the cogs that keep society down there semi-functioning so they have to be relatively normal.
[...]
Why do you think that would upset Stolas? Fricker might even congratulate her.
>are basically the cogs that keep society down there semi-functioning so they have to be relatively normal.
Kek is the S-word a racist insult down there?
>Blitzo has a problem stealing when first confronted in hell
He didnt say shit about stealing being bad, he was worried he would get caught. Which when you think about it, is a fair thing to worry about when stealing from literal demon royalty with magical powers.
before: >Stella is pissed at Stolas for fricking an imp
after: >Stella is pissed at Stolas because she's just a massive c**t who hates him for no apparent reason and therefor Stolas cheating on her is okay and he dindu nuffin wrong
Don't forget how we're officially in "Blitzo and Stolas did nothing wrong" territory with all the parental abuse bullshit in their now shared backstory.
>no apparent reason
She's a spoiled little brat who was thrust into a loveless marriage without a single say from herself, she has a fricking smorgasbord of reasons to hate on Stolas. And since when has it been indicated that Stolas cheating was ok? His entire life has fallen to pieces because of a whim of passion. If anything, fricking Blitzo made his already dreary life even more grating than it was before
that's the problem, viv pretty much completely retconned everything we thought we knew about their relationship, in order to make Stolas seem like a good boy who dindu nuffin wrong
Agreed.
It really should have been that both Stella and Stolas made mistakes in their marriage. So no one was fully at fault.
But she decided to make Stolas the innocent little gay angel. And Stella is just a massive c**t for no real reason.
i'm crusious about Stella's relationship woth Octavia tho. from what little we saw in S1 it didn't look like she was much involved, so she wasn't that good of a character even before
Stella is an aristocrat, so her daughter gets a certain amount of her attention, and of course she cares for her, but her primary focus in life is on her position. Marrying Stolas was supposed to give her a grand old life of awesome demon royalty shit, but all Stolas does is sit around and mope, and he can’t even get his dick up (for her), so of course she resents him because her status is tied to what he does.
Octavia is now her ticket back to being someone meaningful. If Stolas dies, then Octavia inherits his position, which puts Stella back in to a position of social capital as the mother of the person who does whatever Stolas is supposed to be doing. That’s why she’s so intent on killing him.
I don't even care about Stella emotionally, I just want to see an sexually frustrated older woman doming a younger man like a reverse of her husband with Blitzo
Basically was hoping for an interaction like this in show
The argument ceased, Her Ladyship stepped out through the door, her appearance impeccable, a far cry from the nightmare that had come screaming in. She glanced at Moonchild and smiled. It wasn't a friendly smile, it was the sort of smile a fox might reserve for a cornered field mouse. She ran the back of her hand down his smooth, blemish-less cheek, hooking a long talon under his fine, pointed chin, raising his gaze to meet hers.
"I love your sweater," she said, her voice now a smooth, syrupy contralto.
"Thank you, My Lady."
"I should like to see it on the floor of my boudoir once your shift is done, understood?"
I dont know if you’re the one who recommended that fic in that other thread but thanks, I spent a day reading the whole thing and now I’m still massively bummed out over the ending.
No amount of coping will make the writing not-shit.
The only thing that will is you taking the L and actually listening and applying the criticism instead of throwing a petulent tantrum, screeching at random bullshit.
>The only thing that will is you taking the L and actually listening and applying the criticism instead of throwing a petulent tantrum, screeching at random bullshit. >posting this like stellagays don't exist in this thread
the fricking irony of this post
>Noooo! There are autists on an autism basket weaving forum so that means all criticism is null!
You absolute monkey. No amount deflection and sub par memes will fix the writing other than actually WORKING ON IT intead of jerking yourself off, inserting personal life drama and listening to brainlet yes-men on twatter.
I don't give two shits about what autists jerk off too.
I want the writing to be of higher quality than the slop the hacks presented us with.
I want the characters to have an actual depth.
I want to see more of other characters instead of same two writers' pets over and over again and their boring, lazily written gay melodrama.
>all this coping >all this seething >all this armchair psychology >just because his jerk-off choice of the pink owl isn't treated the best in an internet cartoon
dude, i just pointed to the irony of your post and now i'm not even sure you meant to reply to my post with all this shit that's not related or you're just an average stellagay
They can't properly do it until they resolve the big heap of drama they dumped in the show these past two episodes, which will take at least one more episode. They could technically have them take on a mission this next episode, but their human-killing would just be a backdrop to Blitzo's relationship troubles, not the real focus of the episode.
There's so much good potential for hit jobs
Imagine if- >someone wants a president dead (please no real political analogs, just "a president") and they have to go through the military or something to get to him >they have to fight prepper-types, such as rednecks that have night vision goggles and 100 guns >they have a string of jobs in the same town and a crazy Mr. Crocker-like obsessive keeps seeing them and tries to prove demons exist >have to kill someone in a high-security prison >a kid sets up an overtly elaborate trap to catch the easter bunny or santa and they instead catch one of the imps and keep trying to play with it >they're set up to kill someone that is a cultist and conflicts of interest arise (such as someone that prays to stolas or something)
Oh shit if they want to have Moxxie and Millie having a kid as a plot point the kid capturing one of them thing could work where (probably Moxxie) gets kidnapped by the kid and ends up getting along well with it, to the point that leads to discussion of having children
(With Blitzo interjecting gross-out humor like "I'm your boss so I get to eat Millie's placenta")
There's no way they could kill a president without exposing themselves. Their whole business is illegal in hell and only works as long as none of hell's big shots notice
>a person is worried their spouse will end up in heaven so they want IMP to convince them to kill themselves
Pretty similar to the Lyle case but a lot more wholesome. >a human follows them back to Hell, chaos insues >someone hires them to bodyguard someone on earth, another hires them to assassinate the same person, M&M vs team bloona insues >blitzo has a nuke, no idea how he got it, wants to sell it to the highest bidder in Hell >a God damned mother fricking millie episode that we should have already gotten >a rival earthling assassination business pops up, they want competition but blitzo wants to just kill them
Weird that Millie hasn't gotten an entire episode. Pieces of episodes feel like they're about her, but nothing more. Geez maybe the biggest flaw with the show is simply there isn't enough of it.
Yeah, it is suprising the female characters in a show created by a woman are pretty much background characters. It reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist how the author is a woman, but most of the female characters are really 1-dimensional "strong, badass, warrior chick" tropes. Winry is the only female character with any sort of depth or character arc, and she's only in probably like a third of the story.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hey Olivier Armstrong is my kind of woman. Wish Helluva Boss had more of her kind of character instead of this fujo spineless shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's fine if you think she's hot, but she has no personality other than strong woman who can kick any man's ass, and she has zero character devlopment. Same with Hawkeye, Izumi, Lan Fan, Mae Chang, Lust, Maria Ross, Winry's grandmother, and so on
Yeah, it is suprising the female characters in a show created by a woman are pretty much background characters. It reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist how the author is a woman, but most of the female characters are really 1-dimensional "strong, badass, warrior chick" tropes. Winry is the only female character with any sort of depth or character arc, and she's only in probably like a third of the story.
>Men prefer male characters when writing stories >Women prefer male characters when writing stories >The only time people prefer female characters is to either jerk off to them or to get leftist brownie points
When was the last time something even did speaking female characters well and didn't make them about T&A? Some Moeshit anime? Alien?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Technically Attack on Titan, but I found the color palette so fricking drab it was an eye sore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I liked it a lot until the horrible ending. Seriously, that was the Tsar Bomba of bad endings. What End of Evangelion has in spectacular Attack on titan has in equal parts shit. You can't make it worse while being sincere. It'll be remembered for decades as one of the shittiest endings ever. The seethe from anime-onlys is going to reach nuclear levels of cope.
>mfw hazbin hotel gets seen as biblical canon a few centuries from now
50 years from now there could be serious literary discussions about Angel Dust saying "Harder daddy" and hearing "Son?" in response
did the imps get away with stealing all that shit in the flashback?
or did stolas' dad find and kill them off screen which is why blitz's brother turned evil?
Woke, furries and trannies hate incest to a pathological extent so it doesn't matter if Incest make sense in a setting, they'll never ever acknowledge it outside of to say how evil it is and even demons wouldn't do it.
Same with Hell having an age of consent of 18, cause those people can't imagine non-american non-LA standards and need to cover their ass so no one think to look at the grooming they got going.
There's metric tons of incest furry porn out there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure but it's commission work, the artists are generally not even furries to begin with. I only know like 2 furries who are into incest and only a handful more furries who don't screech like harpies the moment they hear about shit like Ben x Gwen.
>Season 1 finale shows that Blitzo can't see Stolas as his romantic partner not only because Stolas doesn't do anything, but due to his own insecurities. >Season 2 premiere reveals that Stolas had always been miserable and deliberately broke things off with Stella in order to pursue Blitzo. >yfw Blitzo still rejects Stolas due to his own insecurities even after the latter did all that for him.
Stolas is just going to suffer, isn't he?
Stolas has been framing their relationship as “you frick me” since he stole the book. Blitzo naturally feels he’s just a booty call in a relationship where they are both just using the other, and his own insecurities about his relationships blinds him to Stolas saying he would like them to be something more.
>Stolas has been framing their relationship as “you frick me” since he stole the book.
Then it's Stolas's fault if Blitzo rejects his offer of being something more. Turns out trying to have your cake and eating it too (Trying to keep both Blitzo and royal status, in this case) can only lead to horrible consequences.
I want to see human disguise Blitzo, especially if the disguise isn't finished and we can still see the demon's aspects, which forces him to conceal those parts.
The show's fanbase would hate Stella even more for that, and I would love every moment of them tripping over themsevles explaining why Stolas is justified in cheating on Stella but Stella doing it is bad because she's an evil b***h who gets in the way of their yaoi shipping.
I mean no shit.
She started the whole mess being an butthole for no (so far) discernable reason, causing the other part to just seek any sort of affection elsewhere.
Her doing it as a gotcha would be so openly hypocritical that it'd be just jarring. >OH LOOK I CAN FRICK A NI- IMP TOO >Why the hell haven't you cheated earlier then if Stolas sucked so bad at sex AND done the first move
She would be even more pathetic as she would then be moved by pure spite even at cheating. Stolas at least had the excuse of being absolutely parched.
That said if she fricks Stryker the fandom would forgive her. Specially if something organic comes out
>Stolas is justified in cheating on Stella but Stella doing it is bad because she's an evil b***h who gets in the way of their yaoi shipping.
Because that would be hypocritical of her you dumb frick
I get the feeling Stolas is about to cut Blitzo loose. He'll give him that Asmodean crystal so he can go to the human world in a "Here, this is what you really wanted all along" kind of way so he can move on without him
Honestly, this whole show would have been a lot better off it it took place in a completely different setting
Instead ot demons, they are just different members of a civilization built on a species hiarchy, with the birds being at the top and the imps and dogs being their slaves/ lower castes
The whole assassination plot coult be twisted as them simply killing higher ups of the bird caste and getting their contracts from spirits or just living individuals who were wronged
All of this could still work if the society is very cutthroat and so assassination is very commonplace, especially amongst the nobility
no just a mix of not liking musicals in general (due to them being awfully cheery or just cheesy) and the song actually being decent idk im not a song expert lol
are musicals, books and other artforms actually good? used to love all kinds of artforms but my interest kinda just died after i found out that video games are in fact very addicting. anime doesnt count since i can barely stand them except 2 or 3 animes i seriously care about
Asmodeus himself is one of the better aspects of the show. I’m interested in seeing the rest of the 7 as the series goes, hopefully they’re all voiced by broadway actors.
>"Welcome to Hell, Martha. The same place you got me sent. You and I are going to become very close. Think I look scary? Wait till you spent a little more time here. You'll grow into your demon form very soon."
>This b***h and her crazy ass family are all in Hell
I wonder how that teacher is doing. Now that I think about it, sending your enemy to Hell would be the last thing one would want to do.
Honestly I’m fine with an overarching plot but we needed a bit more time to establish just how Blitzo really feels about Stolas. Plus the best episodes so far have been the ones that focus on IMP on a mission, or being captured by a bunch of government agents (even though the songs in that one felt really hokey)
Oh yea it's fine that it's happening nothing wrong with a bit of drama afterall. It just seems like the show has this idea of humans being the ones to cause drama
I’m curious to see if when the rest of the 7 princes show up they also show themselves not truly acting on their respective sin like Asmodeus was. For a demon who hates whenever others show love towards another, he sure did seem very affectionate to Fizz.
Because the show is badly written nonsense and this episode was the last minute fanfic episode to whitewash Stolas and make the writer's ship look clean.
>girls only episode >stella is depressed for getting divorced >octavia takes her for a walk in the park >they meet loona >"she just needs to get some dick" >she helps them get a human disguise for more fanart >stella brings them up to earth >go to club and gangbang
Those are the sinners. The imps, that are native to wherever Hell is, are basically the cogs that keep society down there semi-functioning so they have to be relatively normal.
[...]
Why do you think that would upset Stolas? Fricker might even congratulate her.
My prediction for season 2 is that we'll get more focus on Blitz's and Fizzarolli's shared past.
The finale of season 1 hinting at some sort of traumatic past that
Blitz went through+his face scar+Fizzo having robot limbs and being hostile toward
Blitz makes me think that in some unfortunate accident Blitz helped kill his mother and make Fizz limbless.
His sister ended up as a alcoholic as a coping mechanism and Blitz adopted
Loona as a sort of selfish redemption. Are we getting something new or more episodic assassinations with gay drama
Literally every other character except the two gays, the cherubs and the MIB were interesting but completely ignored in favor of Rodgers retelling of his dysfunctional love life
Embarrassing for you, fujo prostitute.
Literally been seething at anyone pointing the obvious problems with the episode just cause you're proud of a fricking headcanon.
Half those posts are yours, that still pretty embarrassing Stellacuck. I'm sorry your headcanons about Stolas being a predator and Stella being a good wifey were disproven
>You proved me wrong but I'm still right
Cope. All those posts were yours, that's the actual embarrassing part. >I'm sorry your headcanons about Stolas being a predator and Stella being a good wifey were disproven
I'm sorry I mind broke you so hard you had to make up a whole fanfiction in your head to cope instead of acknowledging anything actually said in this discussion.
If Stellagays want to rally around a female character who was wronged by a gay man Verosika's right there, especially since it's implied that Blitzo really hurt her.
>Other people should do something that doesn't upset me
Go back to Tumblr, please. You don't decide the topic of a thread.
Also Verosilka and Blitzo's relationship wasn't credible, they felt like a catty gay man and a woman having a b***h off, not bitter exes.
episode could be shit for all I care but Stella was never shown in a positive light thorough the whole show. Even in season 1 she was shown to be an absolute b***h so it made sense for stolas to cheat because why would anyone want her, but dont worry shell get a shitty redemption
>MAMA VIZIE MADE MY HEADCANON TRUE!!! IT IS THE GREATEST ACHIVEMENT OF MY LIFE SO DON'T SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT THE EPISODE!!!
Friendly reminder you outed this was your whole motivation for defending the episode.
Didn't you post earlier that kept saying the same shit for months and now just whine at people cause you feel vindicated? Are you seriously gonna talk about headcanons after that?
Don't bother asking. They refuse to give a straight answer
2 years ago
Anonymous
You know people can see the dozens of posts clearly and directly saying what got retconned, right? You can't be that delusional.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not a retcon. They're just too dumb to notice subtext that was always there and that pretty clearly hinted at Stella's true nature if you paid attention. Also, nobody wants to acknowledge the fact she put out a hit on her child's father and doubled down right in front of her at the dinner table >inb4 it's fine to murder your husband if he cheats
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>inb4 it's fine to murder
The show doesn't have a problem with murder in any other context. Blitzo and the others have killed dozens of people, and none of them except for Moxxie in the first episode Millie have shown any compunctions about the possibility that the people they're killing are innocents. Millie's sister murders other demons, too, and the show treats it as a funny joke. Stella wanting to kill her husband is no different on a moral level.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll grant you that it's a double standard, but Loo Loo Land makes it pretty clear that murdering Stolas isn't supposed to be seen as acceptable just because they're in hell. Octavia barely even acts like a demon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Loo Loo Land makes it pretty clear that murdering Stolas isn't supposed to be seen as acceptable just because they're in hell
Where? I don't recall anyone saying that it would be a wrong thing to do. Stolas is against it because of self-preservation, Ocatavia is against it because she likes her dad, and IMP is against it because they've been hired to prevent it. >Octavia barely even acts like a demon
I mean, we don't even know how a demons is supposed to act in the HB/HH world, so that's not exactly a meaningful statement. We know they're not necessarily be intrinsically "evil" like demons in Christianity, but there's yet to be a coherent picture of what demons are supopsed to be like.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not talking about the bodyguard thing but the bond between Octavia and Stolas. Despite being demons, they have a very relatable, if strained father-daughter relationship that the writers want you to care about. Knowing that, we know that Stella's later actions would be horribly traumatizing for her daughter if she actually succeeded, and Stella either doesn't know her daughter well enough to consider it a factor or just plain doesn't care about her feelings
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, and I'm sure at least some of the people IMP killed, and some of the imps Millie and her sister killed, also had families who cared for them and grieved at their deaths, but, again, murdering those people is okay in the show. The only things that set Stolas apart from them is that he's a main character, so the fans are more attached to him than to some random nameless imp, and he's part of hell's nobility, so it might be taboo for someone of lesser status to kill him. Neither of those grants his death any greater moral significance than the death of anyone else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Humans who are killed go to Heaven or Hell, Demons who are killed are just gone forever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, Millie and her sister are both mentioned as having "a neighborhood head-count". That means they've killed numerous imps, and the show never has that reflect poorly on them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Stella wanting to kill her husband is no different on a moral level.
It's different because you're meant to sympathize with Stolas, and you're not meant to like Stella or find her quirky/cool like the other characters. There's a word for this kind of writing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Not a retcon.
Reality and the dictionary disagree. You got outed as not even knowing what the word mean, sit down. >Stella's true nature
Stella's 'true nature' has nothing to do with anything anyone is saying, you schizo. They are characters in a story, not real people. >paid attention
Good thing I did, that way I know you're wrong. >nobody wants to acknowledge
Everyone does, it's literally in an episode we talked about earlier, dumbfrick. They're in hell and nobody said Stella was nice. >doubled down at the dinner table
Cause it's funny and they are in hell, it's literally normal for them, that's why the show is funny.
sorry but you don't get to decide what my favorite episodes are
show is going where I want it so its a show for me, not for you
Sorry but nobody cares what your favorite episodes are, you liking them doesn't make them the best.
Also I'm your king and I say you hated those episodes. >show is going where I want it so its a show for me, not for you
Nice schizo point unrelated to what anyone said. >i-i-i-it's not bad writing, it's just not for you
The Last Jedi tier cope and ultimate proof you're wrong and everyone else is right.
2 years ago
Anonymous
cope
I'll be enjoying my show while you seethe and ramble
2 years ago
Anonymous
Here's the definition straight from Webster you moron >the act, practice, or result of changing an existing fictional narrative by introducing new information in a later work that recontextualizes previously established events, characters, etc.
Nothing got changed. A flashback is not inherently a retcon. The pilot is not canon. The hints were always there. You just refused to believe them. Deal with it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>inb4 it's fine to murder your husband if he cheats
It IS specially when you are LITERAL DEMONS FROM HELL
Hiring hitmen there must be as casual as hiring a fricking plumber is on earth
2 years ago
Anonymous
Instead of Stella being angry at Stolas for cheating with an Imp, she was just always like that.
Instead of fricking Stolas in exchange for the book, Blitzo just does it out of pity.
Instead of using the book to get sex with Blitzo, Stolas somehow think the relationship is genuine.
AKA shit that get contradicted by the pilot, episode 1 and the Lululand episode and make Stolas frankly brain dead cause Blitzo tell him to his face it's just business.
2 years ago
Anonymous
holy shit you are actually moronic, I'm sorry
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cope harder, it's funny to see.
but the last two episodes are the best two episodes
along with the hallucination trip
>along with the hallucination trip
That was literally the worst moment in the show.
This episode was pretty good but it did also frick the world-building very harshly, the way vivz incremented real life demonology aspects into the characters was one of the main reasons why taking the concept of hell and turning it into a mirrored version of the living world didn't just become immediately stale as any other interpretation of hell, but am i supposed to believe a demon prince of hell, who has been cited in demonic compediums dating as far back as the renassaince, is not a 3000 years old demon appearing in a more suitable younger bodily form but instead some 30 something millenial dude? Either Blitzo is old which would justify him meeting Stolas as children, though production has gone on record saying that imps have short lifespans, or this episode just broke their own worldbuilding rules for the sake of angst.
Watch out, they're gonna call you a Stellagay and ask what worldbuilding rules it broke no matter how many times you answer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
why are you even watching this, its clearly not for you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>STOP SAYING TRUE THINGS, I SAID IT'S NOT FOR YOU!!!
I don't care. I'll point out bad writing as much as I want.
cope
I'll be enjoying my show while you seethe and ramble
>N-n-n-no u
Keep coping and seething. >I-i-i-i-i'll enjoy
You're clearly not enjoying anything cause you're here begging for everyone's approval of that shit writing to feel better because you know we're right.
Good to see you literally every single one of your points cause you know they don't hold up.
Humans who are killed go to Heaven or Hell, Demons who are killed are just gone forever.
Vivzie lore say they either become part of hell or they just respawn.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're going full schizo mode over a cartoon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Responding to every point I made one by one is going schizo mode
You're coping over bad writing cause you feel it validated your ship.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't have to cope over bad writing cause I don't lose my mind over bad writing
but yes stolblitz bros can't stop winning
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't have to do what I'm doing right now
Lol. >Cry for hours about how it's not bad writing >Get bullied into admitting it is indeed bad writing >Try to claim victory in the same post.
Getting on your knees and admitting we were right is winning to you? Sad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
classic "if someone disagrees with me they're the same person" move
2 years ago
Anonymous
Classic 'If I'm getting destroyed, bring up some pointless nonsense' move.
Here's the definition straight from Webster you moron >the act, practice, or result of changing an existing fictional narrative by introducing new information in a later work that recontextualizes previously established events, characters, etc.
Nothing got changed. A flashback is not inherently a retcon. The pilot is not canon. The hints were always there. You just refused to believe them. Deal with it.
>R-r-r-moron
You mean the definition I posted earlier? The one that made you kneel for hours before you came up with that cope? >Nothing got changed
Whole context of the scene changed, fitting the 'recontextualizes previously established events' part of the definition that you can't seem to be able to read. >A flashback is not inherently a retcon.
Yes and? That one is, that's what matters. >The pilot is not canon
This very episode disagrees. >The hints were always there.
Non-existing hints to irrelevant shit that doesn't matter to the discussion. >You just refused to believe them.
I'm not whoever bullied you here for months, you're not getting any kind of payback against whoever you're raging against, you're just humiliating yourself. >Deal with it
Just like you need to deal with what a retcon is?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>pointing out the fact that I'm not the anon who allegedly been "crying for hours", who is probably several people to begin with is pointless nonsense
you are mentally I'll
you are having an episode over a cartoon
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mind broke you so hard, you can't even write 'mentally ill', all that over a cartoon.
You are the only moron seething at me who doesn't use capital letter genius and you've been at it for 2 hours, everything I said is just true.
>Literal headcanon
It's called picking up on context cues, which you seem incapable of doing. There was extra focus on her action with a zoom-in and sound effect, which makes his action of stopping her stand out. It reminds me of the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 when Rei stops Asuka from slapping her, a clear callback to when Asuka actually slapped her in the original series.
>It's called picking up on context cues, which you seem incapable of doing.
I am incapable of making up a headcanon and then seethe about it for months, yes. Not everyone is as sad as you. >There was extra focus on her action with a zoom-in and sound effect, which makes his action of stopping her stand out. It reminds me of the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 when Rei stops Asuka from slapping her, a clear callback to when Asuka actually slapped her in the original series.
Literal schizo babbles that devolve into talking about fricking anime. Go back to Cinemaphile.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Vivzie lore say they either become part of hell or they just respawn
Not if they're taken out with angelic weaponry, which is what Stella wants
2 years ago
Anonymous
I guess you don't know how arranged marriages for political gain works. It's given that the pair is devoid of any mutual love. Stella is a an abusive b***h that hates being in the marriage same way as Stolas but shows it through violent means. Stolas just fricks Blitz as his cope but woala turned out it wasn't just for that
2 years ago
Anonymous
The pilot isn't even canon, everyone was more of an butthole in the pilot except Millie
Retcons in general are a lazy way to write a story and that's ignoring how it can make a story feel disjointed as hell, which has been a problem for the two last episodes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
but the last two episodes are the best two episodes
along with the hallucination trip
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, the last two episodes are shit, especially since they skipped an episode so a bunch of shit doesn't even make sense.
Best episode was probably the second one, it had the coolest song.
2 years ago
Anonymous
sorry but you don't get to decide what my favorite episodes are
show is going where I want it so its a show for me, not for you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>skipped
nothing got skipped, its literally the morning after
how can you not follow a fricking cartoon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>nothing got skipped
The staff said otherwise. >how can you not follow a fricking cartoon
I dunno, how can you desperately try to defend a cartoon when you don't even know the basic news about it.
I guess you don't know how arranged marriages for political gain works. It's given that the pair is devoid of any mutual love. Stella is a an abusive b***h that hates being in the marriage same way as Stolas but shows it through violent means. Stolas just fricks Blitz as his cope but woala turned out it wasn't just for that
>I guess
Nobody cares and you guessed wrong. >t's given that the pair is devoid of any mutual love.
Irrelevant. >Stella is a an abusive b***h that hates being in the marriage same way as Stolas but shows it through violent means
Also irrelevant and we never saw any violence between the two. They are aristocrats, they hired assassins for that. >woala turned out it wasn't just for that
It is just for that, only thing that changed there is that Blitzo pities Stolas instead of just taking the book.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the frick do I need the news for if it connects and makes sense
why are you trying to find excuses to get mad?
just stop watching it if you don't like it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the frick do I need the news for if it connects and makes sense
You need them to know they skipped an episode and that's why shit feel so disjointed, you moron, follow the discussion. >why are you trying to find excuses to get mad?
Why are you making up a whole other discussion in your mind? >just stop watching it if you don't like it
Stop defending bad writing if you can't cope with people pointing out how it's bad writing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
doesn't feel disjointed to me sounds like a you problem.
writing is fine
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The staff themselves say so and gave an explanation >S-s-s-sound like a you problem
You're so mind broken and melting down, you're trying to argue with the very people who made the fricking thing, it's hilarious. >writing is fine
It was proven otherwise, try again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
prove my balls lmao, I'm watching it and I'm loving it
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just gonna call you a stellagay and move on with my life
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice of you to admit the whole 'Stella gay' shit is just a cope for you.
You'd have moved on hours ago if you could but you know we're right and that's why you're seething so hard at everyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
my first post ITT was 20 minutes ago by the way
2 years ago
Anonymous
>we never saw any violence between the two
She literally threw a servant at him in episode 2. And in the latest one she tried to backhand him, she's probably done that before but this is the first time he actually stopped her
2 years ago
Anonymous
>She literally threw a servant at him in episode 2
Slapstick. >And in the latest one she tried to backhand him
He just told her he wanted a divorce >she's probably done that before but this is the first time he actually stopped her
Literal headcanon.
Seriously, it's clear you've projected your IRL issues onto that shit and that's why you're so desperate to defend every aspect of what you feel validates it but it's just not healthy. It's just a cartoon and it's just anons talking about the writing, calm down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>backhanding your spouse if you want a divorce is fine
Mental illness
2 years ago
Anonymous
>spouse
Neither Stella nor Stolas really consider the other their spouse, they're basically just two workers under contractional obligation to frick one another so how is it any different from when Blitzo or Loona, abuse Moxie? In fact, it might be worse because there's at least some emotional connection between Moxie and his co-workers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>backhanding your spouse if you want a divorce is fine
They are in hell, you moron.
And slapping your cheating husband when he ask for a divorce after shit talking you isn't nice but it isn't a abuse.
>Loo Loo Land makes it pretty clear that murdering Stolas isn't supposed to be seen as acceptable just because they're in hell
Where? I don't recall anyone saying that it would be a wrong thing to do. Stolas is against it because of self-preservation, Ocatavia is against it because she likes her dad, and IMP is against it because they've been hired to prevent it. >Octavia barely even acts like a demon
I mean, we don't even know how a demons is supposed to act in the HB/HH world, so that's not exactly a meaningful statement. We know they're not necessarily be intrinsically "evil" like demons in Christianity, but there's yet to be a coherent picture of what demons are supopsed to be like.
Loo Loo Land is the episode that make it clear assassination attempt are a daily thing for Stolas that he doesn't even react to anyway, right?
That's the opposite of it not being acceptable.
are stellagays even more delusional than arcanes vigays?
how's do you get shown literally on screen that you're wrong and still try to prove that you're not?
>I-i-i-i-i'm gonna move on >Is still here begging for a crumb of validation to cope
Lol. Lmao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Literal headcanon
It's called picking up on context cues, which you seem incapable of doing. There was extra focus on her action with a zoom-in and sound effect, which makes his action of stopping her stand out. It reminds me of the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 when Rei stops Asuka from slapping her, a clear callback to when Asuka actually slapped her in the original series.
Something a fujo prostitute who's brain can't function without randomly going 'He criticize my shit ship so he must be in favor of the evil bird lady that doesn't like my ship too!!' can't understand.
AKA a basic understanding of the show and how writing works.
This episode was pretty good but it did also frick the world-building very harshly, the way vivz incremented real life demonology aspects into the characters was one of the main reasons why taking the concept of hell and turning it into a mirrored version of the living world didn't just become immediately stale as any other interpretation of hell, but am i supposed to believe a demon prince of hell, who has been cited in demonic compediums dating as far back as the renassaince, is not a 3000 years old demon appearing in a more suitable younger bodily form but instead some 30 something millenial dude? Either Blitzo is old which would justify him meeting Stolas as children, though production has gone on record saying that imps have short lifespans, or this episode just broke their own worldbuilding rules for the sake of angst.
They're definitely taking some liberties with the Ars Goetia "canon." See, this is actually a legitimate critique. I'm on the fence about how I feel about Stolas being in his 30s, but I'm still invested enough to see where this is going.
are stellagays even more delusional than arcanes vigays?
how's do you get shown literally on screen that you're wrong and still try to prove that you're not?
they don't even care for Stella, just want to be contrarian gaygs that want to pin-point amateurish writing from a passion project
Literally the most boring people on the planet
shes a bit boring... but at least no one goes full moron over her like stella
2 years ago
Anonymous
Loona is a simpler character, with chiller motives(make friends, accept Blitzo as her dad). There's not much drama surrounding her otherwise like there is Stella and her role in Stolas storyline.
you sure are very sane, mr. king of the local schizo sandbox
2 years ago
Anonymous
You sure are from twitter, mister 'muh fandom'.
There's literally people in this very thread gushing about Stolitz.
Screeching at everyone leveling valid criticism isn't gushing, it's being insecure.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i sure am! and were all the same person out to get ya! better run! >:3
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please keep going. I never broke a twitter parasite so hard they humiliated themselves like that for my entertainment before so keep at it, I want to see how low it can get.
Fandom liking something doesn't make the relationship any less boring. Look at Miraculous and it's love hectagon bullshit that shippers love eating up.
literally no one but children care about that show you need fresh air and if you know anything about it should be a clear sign to turn your life around
2 years ago
Anonymous
>literally no one but children
I have some bad news for you about Helluva Boss then...
i just hope Blitz can get out of his shell with him instead of being a cringy anime deregay
>Samegayging cause no one will give attention to your garbage gay ship
Hilarious.
>thread full of people liking the show and full of people hating the show >somehow people liking the show are the ones ruining it
really makes you think
You don't express 'liking a show' by being an absolute sperg on a thread about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>be a sperg >sperg in the thread all day
so what are you trying to express with that, exactly
2 years ago
Anonymous
>samegay!!!
cope lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>L-l-l-lol
Samegay on suicide watch after getting outed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>samegay!!!
meanwhile me and anons enjoying what the show is about
2 years ago
Anonymous
The show is meant to be about silly murderous imps doing silly murderous things, not some gay fujo fanfic tier shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
The show was blatantly gay from the first episode
2 years ago
Anonymous
too bad, homie
2 years ago
Anonymous
Better tell Viv and Brandon that
2 years ago
Anonymous
See this? This is the ultimate stage of a Tumblrina cope fest to defend their shit ship. They already slit their wrists and got all their arguments destroyed so they'll just spam bad fanarts in a desperate attempt to be snarky until the thread is archived.
The underage twittertards raging are also probably from their discord where they shared the thread to cope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Tumblr, Discord and Grooming
Name a more iconic trio.
2 years ago
Anonymous
this is our thread,
and were posting,
about,
you know,
two main characters of the show
feel free to leave
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Our thread >Majority of the post are about the bad writing and retcons >Stolas gays are literally 3 anons max to 110 other anons
Feel free to kneel more.
>I'M NOT OWNED! I'M NOT OWNED!
Get real. Several people have pointed out how stupid your logic is and you just plug your ears. In fact at this point I'm pretty sure you're taking the piss because nobody is demented enough to believe that there is a single human being on this planet who has always given every conversation happening around them their full attention span throughout their entire life
>Get real.
Stop coping first. >Several people have pointed out how stupid your logic is
Never happened. You tried to screech and got humiliated by dozens of people. >I'm pretty sure
Nobody cares and you're wrong. >demented enough to believe that there is a single human being on this planet who has always given every conversation happening around them their full attention span throughout their entire life
You're demented and coping enough to think anyone made that claim when that never happened.
There's is a world of difference between not giving your full attention to a discussion and blacking out like a zombie. Not only that but even having said blacking out not interrupted by someone literally screaming right in your face.
If that happens to you, you genuinely have some kind of disorder or brain damage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Based
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you're enjoying the show, why are you desperately samegayging for my approval? Because you know I'm right, samegay.
Based
>Literally from Tumblr
Pack it up, ultimate proof I was right.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he thinks I use tumblr/twitter for anything other than collecting art
Whatever helps you sleep at night
2 years ago
Anonymous
been here longer than you
cry about it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice outing yourself as a newbie too.
>he thinks I use tumblr/twitter for anything other than collecting art
Whatever helps you sleep at night
>He think anybody cares or believe him
It's too late, there's no recovery from this. Ever. You're now and forever a twitter and tumblr tourist just here to be a cancer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
which election did you come in
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He came in for an election
Good to know, tourist.
Oh no, how will I ever recover from being labeled on an anonymous basket-weaving forum
Going by your ongoing meltdown? You won't. You have that meltdown ever few Helluva threads.
you seem very upset at the possibility of someone being more annoying than you
You seems to be trying very hard to come up with a clever insult and failing pretty hard.
Don't worry, as your brain develop and you reach adulthood, you'll be able to succeed more often.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh no, how will I ever recover from being labeled on an anonymous basket-weaving forum
2 years ago
Anonymous
you seem very upset at the possibility of someone being more annoying than you
2 years ago
Anonymous
seethe harder moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>N-n-n-no u
I'd tell you to cope harder but we know you reached your limit.
oh no, anon is using picture websites to get pictures from, how will he live with himself
this ones from reddit by the way, dont let your head explode!
>So broken he speak of himself in the third person
Lol, a redditor being moronic, what a surprise.
>YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG POINT BY POINT, THAT'S MOVING THE GOALPOST!!!
Cope. Thanks for admitting you had no way to answer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh no, anon is using picture websites to get pictures from, how will he live with himself
2 years ago
Anonymous
this ones from reddit by the way, dont let your head explode!
2 years ago
Anonymous
One day at a time, my friend. One day at a time
2 years ago
Anonymous
holy shit, meds
2 years ago
Anonymous
>H-h-h-how dare you say things that are true?!!
Holy shit, cope.
have you literally never interacted with another human being?
I did and that's how I know your 14 year old ass is in special ed.
Gushing about something isn't the same as discussing it. People gush about Millie and Moxie, but there's not much to say about the two of them as a couple.
A lot of the meat for the relationship is on Blitzo's end, with Stolas waiting for him to get his shit together so he can rescue him from his abusive ex and her shenanigans.
I feel like they made Stolas less interesting. Even Stella brings up her brother/family in her parting and we still don't know her relationship with Octavia when Stolas is out of the picture.
Stolas's writing sort of gets the short end of the stick the more we learn about him.
>How dare the people I randomly called Stellagays to cope with the bad writing not care care about the character I said they're obsessed with?!
Holy cope, Batman.
I'm not talking about the bodyguard thing but the bond between Octavia and Stolas. Despite being demons, they have a very relatable, if strained father-daughter relationship that the writers want you to care about. Knowing that, we know that Stella's later actions would be horribly traumatizing for her daughter if she actually succeeded, and Stella either doesn't know her daughter well enough to consider it a factor or just plain doesn't care about her feelings
Octavia is literally sitting at the table where her Mother is screaming about sending assassins after him, did you even watch the show? They are in hell, assassins are fricking normal, it's them succeeding that would be new and Stella is probably too dumb to even realize the implication of giving angel weapons to a fricking hitman.
Do YOU watch the show? Octavia didn't hear it because she was listening to music. It pretty strongly implies that if she did hear it she'd have a problem with it
she listens to music because she doesn't want to hear it do you live completely isolated from humans or just don't understand human behavior when they're faced with something they don't like and are powerless in the matter
>Headcanon
All we know about that scene is that she was listening to music because she wanted to listen to music. The reason doesn't even matter. It's so fricking obvious that the writers made her unable to hear Stella's phone call for a reason. You'd have to be severely autistic to not pick up on it
>It pretty strongly implies
Literal headcanon, Stolas heard and didn't care either despite it literally being about him.
[...] >Literally type the same >Only reply to my direct reply to them in a direct chain >Not the same person
Cope.
Thanks for outing yourself for samegayging BTW, I hadn't even accused you of that.
>More headcanon
Stolas was reading a book and tuning her out. You don't think if he'd been paying attention he would have done literally anything about it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
She shuts herself off from her family because their marriage is too toxic for her.
This is like 101 behavior of someone who lives in a house with parents that are toxic to each other.
Please use your fricking brain and stop grasping at straws to save yourself
2 years ago
Anonymous
This may come as a surprise to you, but sometimes people in toxic home environments who use music to escape will still listen to music just because they like music. Again, it doesn't even matter WHY she was listening to music. What matters is that they deliberately illustrated that she could not hear her mom calling a hitman, you imbecile
>Reading a book make you deaf >Started spamming 'headcanon' since I laughed at his headcanon
Nice cope, bro.
Your headcanon is once again shit tho. >the reason doesn't matter
It does cause it ruin your headcanon.
[...]
t. anon that hasn't left his house in years and has been desperately shielding said cartoons for hours.
You are literally obsessed about said cartoon.
Now you're just being desperate. Don't tell me you've never been in a boring conversation that you stopped paying attention to halfway through even though they were right in front of you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Now you're just being desperate.
Now you're just making shit up in your head to feel better again. >Don't tell me you've never been in a boring conversation that you stopped paying attention to halfway through even though they were right in front of you
Nobody over the age of 14 does that and that's only at school. If that's an actual common occurrence for you, you're probably autistic or have ADHD cause a normal person just leave that kind of conversations. >Again, it doesn't even matter
Again, it does, repeating otherwise won't change that. >What matters
What matters is that they directly showed Stella screaming about it at the dinner table with the slightest attempt to hide, you mongoloid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Adults never tune each other out
You cannot be this fricking dumb. Have you never had coworkers? >It matters why she was listening to the music
Fricking why. Why does it matter why she was listening to music in that scene? All the information we need in that three seconds where she's bobbing her head is that she can't hear her mom calling the hit. It's no wonder you're seething at this new episode if you've been too moronic to read between the lines this entire time. If anything this episode was necessary to finally hammer the point into your last brain cell
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Y-y-y-you don't share my social failures and inability to interact with others?!
Not being a massive autistic failure isn't dumb, pal. >Have you never had coworkers?
I do, I just don't pretend to talk to them when I don't want to nor stay in discussion that literally turn me into a zombie, which is a thing that happen to you somehow. >Fricking why.
Because if she listen to music cause she know she doesn't want to hear it, it means she know what's going on and just doesn't to be faced with it too much, as is actually established in the show as something she does in the fricking second episode. Meanwhile your nonsense is based on NOTHING but you projecting your weird ass hang ups on the character.
For someone obsessed with reading between the lines, you really refuse to look at what's between said lines. >B-b-b-b-brain cell
This whole thread is just you getting mentally dominated by everyone to the point you admitted the whole thing was cause you got bullied for months on threads for your shitty headcanon, sit down. >B-b-b-bad writing was actually necessary
Sit down and cope now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'M NOT OWNED! I'M NOT OWNED!
Get real. Several people have pointed out how stupid your logic is and you just plug your ears. In fact at this point I'm pretty sure you're taking the piss because nobody is demented enough to believe that there is a single human being on this planet who has always given every conversation happening around them their full attention span throughout their entire life
2 years ago
Anonymous
have you literally never interacted with another human being?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Reading a book make you deaf >Started spamming 'headcanon' since I laughed at his headcanon
Nice cope, bro.
Your headcanon is once again shit tho. >the reason doesn't matter
It does cause it ruin your headcanon.
literally no one but children care about that show you need fresh air and if you know anything about it should be a clear sign to turn your life around
t. anon that hasn't left his house in years and has been desperately shielding said cartoons for hours.
You are literally obsessed about said cartoon.
>It pretty strongly implies
Literal headcanon, Stolas heard and didn't care either despite it literally being about him.
>Literally type the same >Only reply to my direct reply to them in a direct chain >Not the same person
Cope.
Thanks for outing yourself for samegayging BTW, I hadn't even accused you of that.
Octavia can't even hear her over her music >Stella is probably too dumb to even realize the implication of giving angel weapons to a fricking hitman
What was that about headcanon?
Octavia literally put on the music to avoid hearing their argument, you definitely didn't watch the show cause it's established in episode fricking 2. >A guess about it blowing up in her face is an headcanon.
How many dose of copiums are you right now?
you sure are very sane, mr. king of the local schizo sandbox
>thread full of people liking the show and full of people hating the show >somehow people liking the show are the ones ruining it
really makes you think
>Pointing out flaws mean you hate the show
You need to be 18 to post on Cinemaphile.
No wonder this thread was garbage, it was filled with underaged twitter users. >really makes you think
Really doesn't, it's pretty obvious.
ohoo, you upgraded from "its the same person" to "its several people BUT they are all underage and from twitter!"
you are making huge strides in your "mental" advancement anon, whats your next theory?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's hilarious to see your mental degradation in real time. >huge strides
You on the other hand haven't moved the slightest in hour, still kneeling in desperation in front of me despite all the nonsensical scenario you made up in your head.
>be a sperg >sperg in the thread all day
so what are you trying to express with that, exactly
That you are a cancer upon any discussion and your replies are boring attempt at a 'no u'.
Why would she even be talking to them?
Having to watch over Stolas at his house because Blitzo says so and blah blah blah Moxxie and Millie overhear the bird woman screeching about how trash their marriage is and then Moxxie speaks up and says maybe they should take notes from them since they've been married for a year and have a "perfect marriage". Pretty easy scenario really
Stolas is boring as a 30 year old boomer, it was better when he was an abusive bottom abusing his station to coercively rape blitzo
>30 year old boomer
He's actually a millenial, paimon was a boomer.
Gotta love millenials love being a snowflake so much they pretend they're forever 20 and boomer age just keeps getting lowered
>He's actually a millenial
Yes, like i said hes 30
He's a gen xer
Unironically, I liked the last episode but I feel like they tried too hard to make Stolas blameless/the victim in all of his relationships. His marriage being arranged/loveless was already implied but his "working relationship" with Blitzo was funnier when it felt like he was the one using the book to get Blitzo, not Blitzo using stolas to get the book.
I would agree if Octavia wasn't a factor. Even if Stolas felt justified in fricking Blitzo because Stella is a b***h, his reckless behavior still traumatized his daughter, who he DOES care about, and he's entirely at fault for that.
>dat feel when older than Stolas
I honestly thought he was suppose to be several thousand years old. But in demon years still pushing around his mid-40's.
Dude is like only 34 years old.
To put things in context, Stolas is only around 35. Charlie is 200 years old. Alastor is around 120 years old. Vox died in the 1950s, Valentino died in 1970s. Stolas is really young all things considered.
do demons grow stronger with age? becuse Stolas is already quite strong isn't he?
He's a demon prince.
I assume power levels are go with your status as a demon.
He's naturally much stronger than earthborn demons and lesser demons.
I thought Stolas was 45 or something. Mid-life crisis sort of shit since he is a gay dude married to a woman and had a kid. That was a more interesting angle than SAAAAAAAD.
abusive relationships suck at any age.
having a kid was probably the nest thing that come out of it
Also makes since since Octavia is almost 20. Him being early 40's seems to make more sense.
He was basically her age when he got married and had her.
I think what they might be doing is making the Goetia family reuse the names of the goetian demons over and over, keeping each "job" with its corresponding name
Would certainly explain why our Stolas is an owl when the one described in the Lesser Key is a raven
Viv confirmed demon royalty is immortal and can only be killed by angels or angelic weapons.
People assumed because of this that Stolas was very old.
Hell at least a few hundred years old.
Being in his mid 30's seems kinda silly in terms of lore.
Yes, and yet Paimon has a lot of children, pushed Stolas to have a child, and Stolas is named after a demon appearing in the Lesser Key of Solomon
This leads to the conclusion that they still die somewhat frequently
Now, just how they die is something we can only speculate. Maybe they get hit by the yearly purges somewhat often? Maybe they can't be killed but still grow old (so either Viv meant "unkillable" rather than actually "immortal" or that has since been retconned to be that way)? Who knows, really
Probably murdered by other high ranking rivals. I could see demon royalty being very cut throat.
I mean Stella literally is trying to have Stolas killed right now.
>Maybe they get hit by the yearly purges somewhat often?
Shot from Hazbin pilot showed presumably some royalty opening up from a locked down building, they probably ride out the purges in thier fancy panic rooms while the dregs outside get slaughtered
The purge only affects the upper ring of hell. The earthborn sinners are trapped on that ring. Every other demon can freely travel to other rings.
So they would just go to the lower rings of hell to be safe.
Only a very stupid demon would risk staying on that ring the day of the purge.
Just some rich buttholes then, I dunno
Depends on if the angels actually target the demon aristocracy or if they’re there to serve some greater purpose in the sucks of life and death. Like I imagine if Hell can become overpopulated, so could Heaven, so the purge may be a function of Lucifer not doing his job. Like there is some grand cycle of reincarnation or an after-after-life or whatever, and God has his shit locked down in his role, passing souls in heaven to wherever they are supposed to go next. Meanwhile, Lucifer, being a headstrong rebel, gave God the finger and let’s Hell run itself. Because no one uses Hell as a time to reflect or rehabilitate before moving on, they can’t, so the purge is forcing the universes hand because one way or another those souls are moving on.
Pretty sure Vic said Lucifer works with Heaven to coordinate the purge. I guess he could probably setup high ranking demons royalty to also get taken out, if he thinks they are becoming too powerful and may become a threat to him.
Some lesser-ranking nobles probably offed by Alastor. Stolas was not even alive for that whole killing spree incident though.
Alastor is strong compared to earthborn sinners. I don't think he would be stupid enough to off demons that are connected to powerful families. Because some of those higher ranking demons would be vastly more powerful than he is.
I thought so too initially, but the new episode changed things around for sure. At least a chunk of the Goetia are not fallen angels, they're just species that were born in hell and into wealth. Paimon has so many children that he doesn't even remember them, and having many children + a "precautionary heir" granddaughter seems to indicate that nobles getting offed exists as a real possibility. We only really know that Alastor holds respect for Lucifer, and that's probably about it.
>This leads to the conclusion that
Vivzie didn't fully think her setting through and is just making shit up on the spot in service of the story. Which, granted, can be a valid way of approaching a story as a writer, but it also likely means there's no real answer to your question until she makes one up.
I assume royals killing each other for power is what keep their numbers low.
Its like the Siths from Star Wars
maybe the Goetias (the ones with power and who are an actual royalty, not like Stella) reach certain age and stop their aging and become immortal. otherwise this lore that Stolas is mortal sucks.
why the frick are powerful demons lords age like humans
Stella is also from a rich and powerful family.
They are hinting at her brother being pretty powerful.
well, Stella isnt based on any demon from Lesser Key of Solomon, unlike her brother. I'm talking about these Goetias, the ones who have names from irl demonology
Going by what Stolas said, her brother was probably used to intimidate him a few times at least.
>Stella
>Stolas
>Both owls
>Both family are based arounds Keys of Solomon
Is this stealth incest?
Probably distant cousins, like in Fruits Basket
First time dealing with noble bloodlines?
Not really, I'm just surprised how it could be a possibility knowing how hard the staff lost their shit over the Stolas x Octavia art they saw.
Most incest posters kinda stopped showing up because of the diaper spam. Too bad we have gay spam now by some schizo.
Fricking your 6th cousin thrice removed is one thing, fricking your beloved daughter that you've repeatedly established to be your entire world is another beast altogether
Incest is Relative but still. You get my point.
>you've repeatedly established to be your entire world
Some people like having their world rocked.
>abusive bottom abusing his station to coercively rape blitzo
agreed
also why 30 years old? Why not 3000 years or some magical number? he's a fricking demon king.
Because it's turning into a Yaoi fanfic / self insert nonsense so they need 'relatable ages' to the moronic tumblrina writers.
Guess you can say they jumped the shark robot .
It was a filler ass episode to make Stolas better, it was utterly uninteresting.
Also it completely ignore Stella had no choice in the marriage either and is forced to keep going out of pride and 'what will the others say?'
This. Fit hell much better.
I'm in it for them
Blitzo's buck and cuck
Stolas and Blitz being the same age is kinda weird. Stolas was a bit funnier and a little cuter when it was thought that he was like, millenia old at this point and still acting like a schoolgirl with a crush
Its really just this simple
>doing something self destructive because you're emotional and dont know better
Cringe
>doing something self destructive deliberately and with complete self awareness just because you can and want to
Based
I liked the "He's so fricking desperate that he's willing to do this even with the costs" angle. Felt more realistic
Thats the problem, its painfully mundane. It wastes the setting
This
I hope not, it would be such obvious fujo shippers pandering.
Yeah, I dig serious Stolas like when he saved IMP from the agents. He works when he’s a fancy powerful aristocrat indulging himself at Blitzo’s expense. It feels like the last episode was a turn around of Blitzo just using Stolas to get to some good loot/the grimoire and Stolas is such a sad sack he thinks this is positive attention.
I kind of get Stella ragging on him to her brother because holy shit is he a limp dicked waste of a bird demon so starved of daddies attention he’ll let a fricking imp stick his dick up his ass.
Stolas is the easy going type.
But appears to be pretty scary when angred.
When he saved IMP from the agents he should have kept the seriousness and calmness, giving him an intimidating aura to show how scary he can be when he needs to be. It did thought feel disproportionate given the MIB were so ineffectual that it was like trying to scare lemmings. If it was towards particularly scummy and dangerous people like Striker then I could see it being more proportionate.
Its a shame they started pandering to the incel community
Im glad Stolas isnt some background character and has solid presence in the show
The character and voice actor are gold
I disagree. I can understand wanting to expand your worldbuilding by giving side characters more depth, but the only thing I care about and really remember about him is that his magic book lets him visit the human world, and he’s considered as Hell Royalty; the only thing that matters then is his relationship with Blitzo—or really vice-versa—as a way of explaining why Blitzo is allowed to use the book to begin with.
I liked the show because of the original idea: the small company made up of a couple people that gets into trouble going into the real world when they assassinate somebody, and these character’s interaction / banter with each other. idc about Stolas, especially when he makes the episode have a musical in it.
his original VA was better
The original sounded way more regal.
The new voice is way too much of a gay stereotype. He can sing, so I'll give him that.
The gay foreplay scene with Stolas and Blitz felt feels so painfully accurate to what sex is like to me that it made me feel very, very strange things and also a scared suspicioun that vivzie is spying on me.
Do all gay bottoms act that way before they get fricked?
Not ones with experience
I have experience, foreplay typically starts with me teasing, being seductive and up-front with my desires, then once the top's almonds are activated and begins teasing me back or grabbing me, I melt into a buttery mess of excitement and embarrassment, and then once he goes in for a money shot, I let out my pent up feelings of desire and lust and beg for their domination and the feeling it makes me feel when I'm desired.
It was all so painfully accurate it was weird. Especially since my ex, too, was a liar who just manipulated me for the duration of our relationship despite making me feel safe and comfortable.
I don't feel any emotion during sex. For me foreplay just an act I learned from watching porn and romcoms. A set of instructions I autistically follow
So basically Vivzie fricks
>these are the people I share this board with
Makes me ashamed of being bi. It kills me that some people can actually relate to these awful characters.
Fricking dregs of society.
I don't to those relating to Blitzo, he is such a massive creep with almost no boundries.
made me feel so lonely bros
Why was he sad?
He wanted that imp for himself but Stolas stole him
Can Blitzo and Stolas successfully become a true couple?
Their main issues seem to be communication and trust.
Viv is a fujo, so yes.
I'm still firmly convinced that Viv will slap us across the face with a Stella redemption arc in the latter half of the season just to emotionally frick with us. But... assuming she doesn't have the cahones for that, I think Blitzo and Stolas can work, they just need to move on from the baggage currently holding them back. Stolas with Stella and Blitzo with Fizz, Verosika and his childhood. Blitz has a lot of work to do.
She’s a fujo meaning she’s incapable of sympathizing with female characters that get in the way of her gay ship. I felt like I was reading a fanfic written by a 14 year old in the 2010s or a boomer that calls every woman that isn’t a doormat a karen,
If she didn't have another show coming out where the lead is a bisexual woman in a relationship with a lesbian I think there definitely would've been a "Does Vivzie hate women?" video essay by now.
Speaking of which, here's her latest art
I wonder how many Stellacucks hate Vaggie for being an angry dyke
Originally Vaggie was going to be with Angel Dust. I still like to imagine Angel Dust is her ex.
>angry dyke
How rude
I'd call Vaggie excessively cautious.
Charlastor is better, Viv.
Chaggie is cute and canon!
Heaven or Hell
LET'S ROCK!!!
You guys keep saying stuff like this as if this is a fanfiction, or sequel to a work they didn't create. Like all of the characters were established, and they had no choice but to work around it. If they had wanted to write a story about a gay relationship where there was no one else in the way, they would have done that. They created this story. A story about a gay man in an arranged marriage with a horrible woman is the story they wanted to write. Stella isn't "in the way" of their ship. She was intentionally placed there as a narrative obstacle.
That's what a lot of people don't get. Stella doesn't have much depth because the story isn't about her. She's important in so far as her actions and self affect Blitz, Stolas and Octavia, that's about it.
SHe's a main character in their mind, so she's a main character in the show.
>Like all of the characters were established
Stella was clearly already stablished as being just mad about Stola's rampant cheating on her, ruining the family without him showing a shred of remorse. Then this new episode just had to retcon her into being an uber b***h 24/7 for us to feel so bad for homosexual owl
>They created this story
So? Just because they made it doesnt mean theyre doing a good job or choosing the best direction for it
>Stella was clearly already stablished as being just mad about Stola's rampant cheating on her, ruining the family without him showing a shred of remorse. Then this new episode just had to retcon her into being an uber b***h 24/7 for us to feel so bad for homosexual owl
You're projecting nuance onto her that was never there. She's always been an uber b***h.
Her only characteristic wasn't that she's an uber b***h any more than Stolas' only characteristic is he's gay. Before the new episode, there was the expectation the writers would ortray Stella's side of the marriage in a respectful way like they had done for Stolas. That's why he has actual depth, but instead Stella is written as an iredeemable b***h from the start who is the main reason their marriage is in the dumps, and who only exists as an obstacle between Stolas and Blitzo getting together. They could get rid of Stella entirely and just make it so Stolas was bored of his duties and decided to frick a low class imp or something, and they'd still have almost the same story and drama.
That WAS her only characteristic the whole time and Stellagays just shut their eyes and plugged their ears to all the evidence even when it was pointed out to them. They have no one but themselves to blame for their disappointment.
>Get destroyed
>Just repeat cope
Lol, Fujo gays are mind broken.
>Most us
Every non-Yaoi prostitute agree it's shit regardless of Stella. Your shitty ship will NEVER compensate for good writing, never ever.
>there was the expectation
Not for most of the fandom. Jyst you stellagays. Most of us had predicted that she was abusive.
>muh retcon
Stella was a b***h from day one but Stellagays were either too horny or too smoothbrained to notice
>Get objectively true criticism
>M-m-m-muh
Cope. We get it, you are moronic and want your shitty UwU gays but nobody cares. It's badly written and filled with retcons.
>N-no u
Pathetic
>You slept with an IMP!? In our fricking bed!
>It was unexpected! There was no time to go to a hotel!
>A HOTEL? Like a fricking PLEBIAN?
This was very clearly planned from the beginning.
She literally mentions that Blitzo is an imp like 4 times. She doesn't care that he cheated, she cares that it was with someone of a lower status (and that it got out).
Plus it was such a casual reveal every time it happened, Blitzo always just says
"Oh sorry, I fricked your husband" with the same tonality if he knocked over a houseplant and got dirt on the floor
Did Stolas and Blitzo plan that reveal?
>It not being a fanfic or a sequel mean shit writing and shit obvious retcons don't matter
have a nice day.
>my headcanon interpretation of the show wasn't actually true so the show sucks now
Stellagays are mentally ill
>STELLAgayS, STELLAgayS, STELLAgayS
It may not have been a retcon, but it's still a really shitty direction to take the story going from "this is some heavy shit, we'll have to figure out how they could make it work" to "LOL THEY WERE MEANT TO BE TOGETHER! BIRB BOY DID NOTHING WRONG!" People like you are why shit like Homestuck^2 fell apart. You would rather shit on people for daring to defend a character being fricked up than to recognize that the story around the pairing is badly written.
Don't you dare compare Stolitz to that trashfire. It's still a complicated relationship that's gonna take some work, Stolas is in a position of power over Blitzo which Blitzo is very clearly aware of and not happy about. Then there's Blitzo's own personal issues of pushing loved ones away to avoid getting hurt.
>Stolas thinks he's in charge because Blitzo wants the book and he can get fricked to merely loan out a shelfwarmer
>Blitzo thinks he's in charge because he can get Stolas' magical book in exchange for occasional sex
Seems like the core of their relationship comes from the politics of the book. Wonder what happens if the book gets destroyed or is no longer needed.
That's pretty good art
>had to shove a sudden childhood friends to lovers, and kill any and all agency Stolas has because the writers really, really, REALLY want you to feel bad for their bird demon oc
Anon, it's both trash.
You people are literally assblasted over things not going your way but you're also lying and framing it as if certain things were established when it was only in your fricking heads. You're waifugayging over a bird monster you barely knew, pretending she was this great person and the creator of the show suddenly made her shitty when that's not what happened. But you're still obnoxiously insisting that's what happened anyway and expecting people to take it seriously.
>OMG WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT MY HEADCANON UR LITERALLY RUINING THE SHOW
Fricking annoying c**ts
Mate, when the frick did I say Stella was a good person? Do you just assume that anyone who doesn't like this episode is a Stellagay? Don't put words into the mouths of anyone who disagrees with you, you moron. I'm not saying it's bad because Stella isn't an "uwu sad girl" since that shit died when she hired Striker. I'm saying it's bad because the narrative is being dumbed down for this glorified Lifetime Movie bullshit. This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit. Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this.
>Y-YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE YOUR BIRD WAIFU DOESN'T FIT YOUR HEADCANON ANYMORE
Shut the frick up. I have a list of girls I'd frick in this show and I have my doubts Stella is anywhere on that list. Quit letting them live rent-free in your head.
>Mate, when the frick did I say Stella was a good person
I said you people (as in general) are acting LIKE she was a good person because you people keep saying her character was done wrong or this is fricking character assassination when again you literally didn't know enough about her much less as a good person for this to be the case. You're also ironically complaining about the creators choice of shipping while pushing headcanon in a way shippers are notorious for. You're pretending your opinion is fact and again everyone should accept it or they're ruining the show, but you see nothing wrong with this. Get fricked.
Again, when the frick did I say anything like that? I literally just told you Stella being an "uwu sad girl" died when she hired Striker. If anything, you're the one pretending that your own opinion is fact and that people should just accept it or "get fricked." Again, they're living rent-free in your head. I'm sorry that I don't blindly ship the bird and imp boys together and that I'm "ruining your fun" as a result. Fricking gag me.
>Again, when the frick did I say anything like that?
>If anything, you're the one pretending that your own opinion is fact
>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit
>Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this
Genuinely have a nice day
>Genuinely have a nice day
No, you fricking end it, you fricking clown. I don't follow your garbage narrative as fact.
Exactly. It's all headcanon bullshit.
I literally pointed to where you pretended your opinion was fact, you dumb piece of shit. Linked the post and quoted you. Oh but what that wasn't you now? Fricking idiot.
>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit
>Don't come crying to me when the show gets worse after this
That's me making a prediction, you fricking yolk, and you're the fricking idiot if you unironically believe that the Meant to Be cliche is good. Who's the fricking schizo here.
I've mostly seen it on Twitter and YouTube. If I made it seem like this was every Stolitzgay, I'm sorry.
wow you found people saying moronic shit on the internet? color me fricking shocked
That's the fricking game for this shit, sadly.
You defending this shit is enabling more garbage writing, mate, and I've seen shows fall apart before. I know I'm not saying some groundbreaking phenomenon. I'm just calling it what I think it is: Shit. Quit trying to act like I'm the moron here when you're the one assblasted that I didn't like this story.
>you're the one assblasted that I didn't like this story
It's not just you not liking it that's a problem when you have to try and tell others what they should or shouldn't like while doing it you disingenuous b***h. I don't even ship the two but it was fine and made enough sense based on what we knew. It's not a healthy relationship and they make it obvious but it's interesting enough.
This. I wish people understood that we like the story because we find the dynamic interesting, not because we think it's ideal romance.
Exactly, only twitterinas feel morally compelled to only ship "pure" relationships and to warp anything they like into fitting their definition of that.
I'm a fan of lovey-dovey art myself, being a moegay, but that is very obviously not their current dynamic and I'm excited that their messy relationship is getting properly explored in the show itself.
>when you have to try and tell others what they should or shouldn't like
Where exactly did that happen? Seriously; find me a single quote in this reply thread telling other people what they should or shouldn't like.
>find me a single quote in this reply thread telling other people what they should or shouldn't like
>>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit
>>This whole "Meant to be" garbage is shit and you defending it is only adding to the shit
That statement is addressing the quality of the writing, which is a different matter than whether or not you should like the show.
You can like a piece of media for its themes while admitting that it's objectively shit on a technical level. Like a piece of art that you love because it depicts exactly the sort of scenario that gets you horny, even though it was clearly drawn by an amateur.
You can also dislike something for its themes while admitting that on an objective level it's technically superb. Like a piece of porn that's really well drawn but which you hate because it's about a really disgusting fetish.
If you like the stolitz ship on a thematic level, fine, but that doesn't preclude you from recognizing that on a technical level it's written like shit.
It's funny to see you prove that 99% of what you're losing your mind about is just you being a schizo who can't read and doesn't understand what good writing is.
You're so mad it's funny.
Don't pass the whole thread screaming it is ideal then and defending actual substance and conflict being written out of the story.
Nice of you to admit you're a Twitterina then cause you've had a hours long meltdown over people accurately pointing the shitty writing and retcons that whitewashed your UwU gay boys..
Stop pretending you're just making a prediction when you're repeatedly saying it's shit and others are adding to the shit because they won't agree with you on that. And your so called prediction involves knowing what others like and they're going to somehow come crying to (You) as if you matter that much. Man you're fricking stupid.
>Twitter and YouTube
>Linked the post!!!
The post you linked doesn't prove your point, Yaoi cuck.
>Fricking idiot.
That's what you are, yes.
>Cope the whole thread about their shit ship being perfect
>W-w-w-we never said anything like that
Cope.
>I accused you of something
Yes and that accusation against him was bullshit so what's your point?
It is character assassination to badly write a conflict by making it 100% someone's fault when the conflict obviously started as 'they are both awful, because this is hell and they are demons'.
>You're pretending your opinion is fact and again everyone should accept it
You're pretending facts are opinions and every should accept this garbage. Keep seething while everyone else acknowledge it's going to shit.
Lol, seethe harder.
You missed the point entirely. Only Stolas felt like it was meant to be, Blitzo was using him from the very beginning, all the way back when they were kids. Their entire relationship is built on a lie.
I know that it's toxic, mate, and yet, we have the Stolitzcucks pretending that it's a genuinely healthy relationship and totally an escape for the sad birb boy. I'm just annoyed that we have these shitters screaming at people for daring to criticize the ship.
>Stolitzcucks pretending that it's a genuinely healthy relationship
More headcanon
We know it's not a healthy relationship. I've never seen anyone defending it as a healthy relationship.
no one is pretending, stop your schizo ramblings
You never said it but the voices in their head told them you did and that's all that matters, otherwise they wouldn't be able to defend this shit.
It was a retcon.
>Don't you dare point out my gay ship is a trashfire!
Lol, no. Literally rich owl going Harvey Weinstein on an Imp who use the occasion to start a business. It's a trash fire of epic propartion.
>Y-y-you're assblasted!!
>*Throw a tantrum*
You're so mad everyone can recognize that shit is badly written.
>reveal puts earlier scenes in a new light
>includes things that many fans were predicting based on hints/foreshadowing
>MUH RETCON
I've been saying for months that Stolas is gay, Stella is abusive, their marriage was arranged, and Blitzo initially seduced Stolas to steal the book, but Stellacucks just kept repeating how we couldn't know for sure because we didn't get it spoonfed to us onscreen. Now it has been, and you're just assmad about being proven wrong. Your waifu sucks and the show has a gay romance, get over it
>'New light'
>Change every single detail and background about it
Yes, that's a retcon.
Cool, your headcanon made it into the show, doesn't change anything anyone said.
>G-g-g-g-get over it
How about you get over the objective fact that this is bad writing and a mess of retcons? Oh wait, you can't because you feel your headcanon being close to what the mess the story eneded up being is an accomplishment. What a sad life.
>gay romance
Married to a woman and had a kid, he's bi, pal. How about you get over that too?
Do tell us what background details were changed. And no headcanon shit. Stuff that's actually in the show only.
>Stuff that's actually in the show only.
You mean like the literal scene they changed the whole context too? That we literally see in the episode?
Do you even know what a retcon is?
I'm still waiting to hear what they changed
I don't think you know what a retcon is, retcons create plot holes. Rewatch the first season, everything still makes sense.
>arranged marriage
>wife had to take initiative while he just lay back and thought of England
>not gay
How old are you?
>retcons create plot holes
No, they don't. Thanks for outright telling me you don't know what a retcon is without a single doubt.
Here's the actual definition of a retcon: a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift.
>Subs are not proactive in bed and women don't tend to understand that
You never had sex with men OR women, did you?
You're talking to an anon trying to defend the honor of a gay ship on fricking Cinemaphile. Obviously they never had sex.
Except, again, there were plenty of hints leading up to this episode, they were just easy to miss for speedwatchers
>Subs are not proactive in bed and women don't tend to understand that
He was literally bouncing Blitzo on his ass and making dirty talk, that's pretty proactive
There weren't. Random nonsense that didn't fit what we saw in the episode aren't hints.
I think you're confused, Stella being mad because he is cheating with an Imp rather than cheating at all is obvious and in no way a retcon. Her always being a raging b***h to him and treating him WORSE before he cheated at weird 'Not-Divorce' parties that were clear threats to dump his ass IS the retcon, because it make no sense. It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted and it's CLEARLY not what the previous episodes were about or portraying.
Also funny how you're dodging admitting what a retcon actually is.
What is that even supposed to mean?
>If it doesn't fit my narrative it's just random nonsense
Cope
>I can't answer any of the actual post so I'll just whine about 2 words
Seethe.
>If I repeat my bullshit enough times that makes it true!
Speedwatcher
>Literally get shat on for repeating himself
>Try to accuse someone else of repeating themselves
Lol. Lmao.
>Get pointed directly to proof that Stella was always a shit wife
>"NO THAT DOESN'T COUNT"
You lost. Get over it.
>Can't answer what I actually said
>Make up a fake discussion in his head to cope.
>Y-y-y-you lost
I accept your absolutely pathetic admission of your destruction.
Get over it? You mean like you can't get over having a multi-hour long meltdown just because you don't know what a retcon is?
>episode could be shit for all I care
Stop desperately defending it then.
>Stella was never shown in a positive light thorough the whole show.
Not the point at all.
>dont worry shell get a shitty redemption
Nobody cares. You really need to accept that nobody shitting on the garbage filler episode that whitewash your gay ship cares about Stella cause it's pathetic.
You still have yet to even say where the retcon was. It's like you're going out of your way to avoid answering it
I literally did earlier as well as showing you a definition of the word because your dumbass didn't even know what it means, going on about some nonsense about plot holes. You know, the shit you're desperately trying to dance around.
>they changed the whole context
You mean like the literal scene they changed the whole context too? That we literally see in the episode?
Do you even know what a retcon is?
>It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted
I think you're confused, Stella being mad because he is cheating with an Imp rather than cheating at all is obvious and in no way a retcon. Her always being a raging b***h to him and treating him WORSE before he cheated at weird 'Not-Divorce' parties that were clear threats to dump his ass IS the retcon, because it make no sense. It make Stella's behavior not motivated by Stolas cheating with an imp at all, it just make it how she always acted and it's CLEARLY not what the previous episodes were about or portraying.
Also funny how you're dodging admitting what a retcon actually is.
[...]
What is that even supposed to mean?
Can't you read?
>NOOOOOOO STOP SAYING THE TRUTH!!
Cope.
>viv viv viv viv-
this is all brandon's frickery, not (totally) hers
but of course, you all forgot that he's part of the writing team, and that you must NEVER allow the one who voices the main character anywhere near that group, or else he or she will bend the whole story towards themselves, or in this case, his personal life
Brandon needs an outlet for his more dramatic stuff and for some reason Helluva Boss is what that’s becoming. Viv certainly isn’t helping matters either if she’s just allowing it to happen.
But it's the opposite, Brandon writes most of the comedy while Viv writes most of the emotional stuff
wow what a fricking shock
That makes sense since Brandon is known for his comedy
I'm gonna need sauce on all this.
You keep beating this drum and you never show a single shred of proof for your claim. You're full of shit.
an earlier helluva boss stream with the writers is the source
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/127078326/#127079648
>Brandon says Stolas looks like his boyfriend
And this is proof of...what, exactly?
Not based on what they showed. Blitz can't maintain a relationship and he doesn't even seem to like Stolas. Ever since they were kids it was a one sided thing. Blitz only uses him to get money or get into places and sees sex with him as a chore.
He's just a tsundere
I keep forgetting Blitzo has these white spots. What are they, burns?
deep lore, he's the reincarnation of Micheal Jackson
probably
>mfw that isn't white face paint fizz is wearing
that episode made me feel funny in an unfunny way
>and he doesn't even seem to like Stolas.
did you even watch the show
I could only know about what I mentioned if I watched it
i hope not
its a show about hell and blitzo is a massive piece of shit, i dont want a happy ending
is it too much to ask that one show doesnt get the disney ending?
>is it too much to ask that one show doesnt get the disney ending?
Yes, because it's not just this one show. Nowadays, bittersweet endings are all the rage, even disney keeps going out of its way to be subversive.
Writers favorite ship so yes
Even if they both get their shit sorted between eachother, Stolas will be kicked out of the Goetia family because a relationship between royalty and an imp commoner would never be accepted, i can see Stolas getting fricked hard in the coming episodes, i think his father is going to take his powers away and banish him, then Blitzo is forces to take Stolas in where they live together as roommates, imagineStolas becoming even more of a depressed huck since not only will he be losing his powers, but he probably won't see his daughter Octavia again, or at least for a long time.
Stolas will then end up in the paradoxical situation of needing BLITZO to support him for once. The power dynamic will flip, as Stolas won't have his riches and such to fall back on.
Then Blitzo will realize that even WITHOUT his power and status, Stolas still loves him.
I do like that Martha is more evil-looking and hideous than Mayberry here. Her color scheme is more unhinged and her features aren't nearly as smooth & polished.
No their entire relationship is built on Blitz's need for the book. If Stolas ever lost it Blitz would at best just friendzone him.
POST M&M
Do you guys think that Fizzerolli’s distaste for blood carried over into his adulthood?
I think it's just setting up for a very gruesome and traumatic scene where his arms get torn off and there's blood everywhere. And it's also probably Blitzo's fault.
Arms AND legs
Kek
It's true tho. Thread spam notwithstanding.
When is Loona getting her own show?
>A show where Loona just stands around playing with her phone the whole time
Riveting
Show about savagely murdering all of Loona's potential boyfriends
Vivz doesn't have the balls to kill so many black people
Honestly that would have made for a fun show/episode to make Blitzo be fleshed out beyond his relationships regarding his member. His and Loona's relationship was better than any other he has shown.
wasn't there supposed to be an episode about blitzo and loona? or did i miss it?
Probably next episode.
For as much as I jest about this show, I just want to see them do more with Loona. It's what I look forward to the most.
God I hope they get more attention and focus. Not this sad sack melodrama that loudly and busily nowhere
They’re entitled to one angst episode per season and we got it an part 1 and this new episode so it better not keep coming
yeah i'm sure they have plans for her, as art of Blitzo's charachter growth maybe? he seems to be overcompensating as a parent seeing how his dad was.
Loona and Blitzo appear to have an episode dedicated to them this season. I assume it will touch more on their backstory and relationship.
Blitzo killed her parents when she was little
He took care of her like the parents did to leela in futurama
something bad dramatic happened and he has to reveal himself to her
she has to go to heaven so he made her commit a sin to keep her
It would be a twist if we find out Loona was a orphan because Blitzo killed her parents. And he adopted her years later out guilty.
she would hate him if she ever found out
>Loona darling they wanted you to go to heaven I had to make you steal
Going to make a wild theory that Loona's backstory has something to do with her being part of the Goetia family.
>can somehow read the grimoire
>has a fairly similar color palette to Stolas/Paimon
>Paimon mentions Stolas being "the OWL boy" in the recent episode, possibly alluding to him being the father of other species he forgot about
So she gets orphaned because she's yet another bastard child that wasn't wanted, and is later adopted possibly at the recommendation of Stolas.
>>has a fairly similar color palette to Stolas/Paimon
That's because Vivzie's main characters in HH/HB use the exact same color palette of just four fricking colors: red, yellow, white, and black. Once in a blue moon there will also be some major side character or background character character with some blue-green in their palette, but that's just about the most creative she ever gets with color in these shows.
>recommendation of Stolas
Impossible, Loona was adopted at age 17, is 22 years old, and Blitzo and Stolas haven't seen each other in 25 years
Didn't she say in one of the episodes that she was 17 when Blitz adopted her?
I'm pretty sure that this episode was the episode they skipped over. When we got that teaser for season 2 this was the only episode with finished animation, and we see the episode that just got out in it, and it's just antimatics.
>We were denied dressed up Loona kino for more gay romance garbo
IKR? I want more of Loona and M&M, not their moronic boss and his dysfunctional love life.
>loonagays getting shafted
good, shit charterer is shit
Please be nice to her.
Ok.
>Ben Garrison signature
Never fails to make me laugh
Hopefully we get an episode of her in human form
That much is already confirmed
Viv said they will show that episode eventually.
maybe if someone leaks it but with legal stuff that can take years and years
Loona almost died from that cookie
>chocolate is poisonous to canines
Is Loona moronic?
She doesn't know what a chocolate chip cookie looks like?
>Wait the girl that is spoiled, constantly sulks, ignores conversation and responsibility, and is addicted to constant social media attention isn't the brightest?
Yes and seems like she doesn't
Is she really spoiled though?
She was raised in an orphanage until she was 17.
Orphans are many things, spoiled isn't one of those things.
They are spoiled if they are pretty
Blitzo has definitely been spoiling her ever since he adopted her. The next episode has Moxxie having to convince him to finally put his foot down on something and she throws a tantrum about it
I like Loona but her tantrum will be fun to see
Same. She hasn't done much besides luring the people at the beach or killing the glowies, it'll be good if there's a situation that legitimately humbles her in some way. It would be especially good if she starts crying and Blitzo tries to be fatherly and says something like "Loony sweety, crying is for little baby dick b***hes and you should be a big dick hellhound"
Loona is how old now?..20..21 (we saw her drinking)
She was 17 when Blitzo adopted her. So for 3 years out of her entire life she's been spoiled.
>(we saw her drinking)
>In hell
If fricking people below 18 isnt allowed there alcohol rules probably work similarly
I mean even some modern real-world countries like Italy have lower drinking age laws and they think nothing of it, and I haven't seen big protests in Italy to raise drinking ages or something like that. I'm not sure why it logically would be a thing at all in the hazbin universe.
That's the weirdest part about the show, they insist on a facsimile of modern liberal western morals in a place where the only morals should come from morals that assist in survival such as not pissing off people capable of hurting you, not morals instilled by the powers that be. Prisons are a good example of this type of morality, people become super racist in prisons as a mean of protection, even if they weren't racist at all before being imprisoned. You would think the imps would give Blitzo hell for sleeping with an Owl and "betraying his kind" but it's instead a tolerant paradise. It's also surprising Blitzo doesn't leverage Moxxie's pegging fetish against him for anything other than "haha you like it in the butt" teasing more often. Someone seen as effeminate is easier to manipulate because they're convinced they would lose in a fight to you.
>Someone seen as effeminate is easier to manipulate because they're convinced they would lose in a fight to you.
Maybe in a purely animalistic setting or when unarmed, but with guns even the gaygiest gay in gayland can win a fight. And they have guns.
>That's the weirdest part about the show, they insist on a facsimile of modern liberal western morals in a place
Yeah, that's just ridiculous. Why the frick would there even laws in Hell beyond 'Don't piss off the big dick demons'? There should barely even be a society beyond what's setup as subtle torture and bait for sinners to hurt themselves with their sins like the drugs.
I think they said she's 22 in a recent livestream.
22, I'm pretty sure. I think it was revealed in a livestream that Millie is 27 (and the fan wiki lists that too) and there's that line she says in episode 6 about being only "5 years older" than Loona.
>Loona confirmed a fricking moron
Also I find it funny a random chocolate chip cookie was just laying around the office. Blitzo wouldn't have them because he knows they are dangerous to Loona. She wouldn't have any because she can't eat them.
So who left a lone cookie out that could have possibly killed Loona?...
She at least had loving care, poor little sexy dumbass
How many traditional dog/wolf behavior habits does Loona actually have
Not sure.
Guess we will see if she gets more screen time.
She's got STDs so she fricks a lot
That's probably not canon anymore. It's not impossible but it's hard to imagine a girl who fricks would have no friends at all
Who and when would she frick. The STDs can't possibly be canon anymore.
i love the way that b***h sounded when she called out Stolas after Blitzo crashed into her tea
Did Stolas have a goth phase?
seeing how much makeup he wears i'd say he's still in it
It never made sense in the first season why Stolas would throw away such a seemingly good thing and go so far for a pretty average imp that he should have seen as lesser. Like even if he was just using him for sex he wouldn't treat him so well. At first it seems like a similar situation to Blitz's first client and her husband in episode 1 but that's obviously misleading again because of how he treats him. So for that reason I thought it was pretty easy to accept what they showed in season 2, it just fits. And like I mentioned before in another thread Stella wasn't enough of a character beyond her fallout with Stolas so I don't understand why I should think she was done wrong in season 2 anymore than any other character written negatively is done wrong by being a piece of shit. I miss the crazy pace of season 1 but I enjoyed seeing the origins of the characters.
>it just fits.
It doesn't, you just have fujo brain.
Stolas threw away shit cause he's a decandent aristocrat in hell, that's it and didn't treat Blitzo all that well, he's just a bottom in bed. First episode literally has him harass Blitzo with unwarranted phone sex.
He didn't even know it was unwanted, that's the irony. It took until episode 7 for him to realize that their relationship was just a business transaction to Blitzo
How can he not know when Blitzo literally tell him to frick off and shred his phone mid call?
The phone sex was one of the best gags in the series, Every other word being bleeped out such as "Put your slimy BEEP inside my BEEP and BEEP BEEP it all into a BEEP stew" was great. I wonder if they'll ever release the uncensored audio track in some way.
>shit Drake format
Just saw this in the /trash/ thread, this is better
It was funny, yes but it doesn't change what it was telling about their relationship.
Hot.
He's a demon and could get it up to have a kid. Stella is just probably mad about him being a bottom and Stolas badly communicating that than it being about him genuinely not being able to get hard.
>He'd most likely just be relieved to get her off his dick
No because if that happens, it's to get a reaction out of Stolas and if he doesn't give one, you wasted episode time. It's also a lot funnier if the conclusion of that whole storyline is Stolas going back to Stella because 'Hey, I'm Hell Royalty, that's just how we are, if we were different, Hell wouldn't be such a mess', fit a lot better with the general vibe of the universe, similar to Angel Dust ruining Charlie's TV apparition by getting in a turf war.
same, its getting better and better every episode
can't wait to see stolas and blitz actually talk and have a relationship going
You think they're gonna antagonize Octavia too?
no, she represents 90% of the fanbase
Her disdain for Blitzo acts as surrogate for my own.
I don't think she outright hates Stolas, she's a sulky teenager that thinks just thinks he's lame
Her debut episode establishes her biggest fear was him running off wit Blitz and abandoning her. Of course she doesn't hate him, she thinks he's kinda a dork but she's a huge daddys girl.
No. Octavia’s purpose in the story is to demonstrate how the fight between Stella and Stolas (and by extension familial drama in general) impacts the innocents they care for. Stolas and Stella hate each other, but Octavia is still their daughter, so hurting each other hurts her.
Also arguably there to demonstrate how the pursuit of your own happiness impacts those around you.
Like you, I fricked it
Millie is NOT for cucking
She is, just the other way around
She's not being cucked, she's just waiting for her turn.
I’d expect moxxie and Stella to actually have a solid interaction, their eloquent stick up the ass is a common feature
That is the fic I am actually making.
Do they all peg him?
I still love her. I want to be the one who makes her happy and gives her her first healthy and fulfilled relationship.
Psychopaths can't have "healthy" and "fulfilled" relationships
She just hasn't met me yet, anon.
Wouldn’t you be a sociopath if you were told that your only purpose is to be a child over
>implying she would have anything to do with your pleb ass
B-but we've already had sex and everything tbh ne.
>Blitzo's brother is disgusted by blood in hell
>Blitzo has a problem stealing when first confronted in hell
>marriage in hell
>and so much more
what the hell is Viv smoking?
they are born in hell, not sinners who end up there after being POS. so they start out more "normal" i think, ending up corrupted by the literal hell they live in
i had the same issue with this episode
i guess the imp circle of hell is meant to be much tamer than the sinners one
It makes sense. Imps are just born there, but sinners get there only by being absolute degenerate monsters. If imps shelter their kids from that shit, it makes sense that some would grow up relatively innocent. Of course eventually they will come in contact with those buttholes and become buttholes themselves.
This. I get that demons aren't supposed to be intrinsically "evil" in this universe, but it would be good if Vivzie could give a concrete vision of what her demons are supposed to be instead that helps make sense of all the different behaviors we're seeing from them.
The worst part is that Hazbin Hotel didn't have this problem, the citizens of Pentagram City were shown to be buttholes, and the infrastructure supported their behaviors. (Legal prostitution, massive turf wars over nothing, drugs in vending machines) but not in Helluva Boss. Suddenly we're in some weird morality filled subdimension, not Hell actual.
HH still has some characters who seem perfectly nice even though they were apparently bad enough to be sent to hell (Vaggie, Niffty) and it would be nice to have an explanation for why they're in there.
Actually, an explanation of how the afterlife works in general is really necessary. They're kinda using everyone's familiarity with the idea of hell as a crutch to get by without explaining much, which they could probably get away with if they either stuck more closely to the standard understanding of hell or else didn't have hell as the central location of their show, but they did neither so at some point they're going to have to explain how this shit actually works.
>Vaggie
She clearly has anger issues and is a dyke. She's probably the first sinner Charlie got to chill the frick out.
>Niffty
Hellborn servant summoned by a higher demon.
>Hellborn servant summoned by a higher demon.
wrong, actually
https://hazbinhotel.fandom.com/wiki/Niffty/History
>The worst part is that Hazbin Hotel didn't have this problem
Are you sure? Angel is a tsundere twink crying about his life in a song despite being 30s mafia or something. It's clearly just the writer's fluffy yaoi sensibilities.
Him being a self pitying homosexual doesn't change that he is unarguably morally reprehensible.
Those are the sinners. The imps, that are native to wherever Hell is, are basically the cogs that keep society down there semi-functioning so they have to be relatively normal.
Why do you think that would upset Stolas? Fricker might even congratulate her.
>are basically the cogs that keep society down there semi-functioning so they have to be relatively normal.
Kek is the S-word a racist insult down there?
>You fricking SIN-
>Blitzo!!
do imps fear the angels?
>do the bottom feeders of hell hierarchy fear the top dogs of heaven that can kill even princess of hell
Probably
What if it's the sinners fault they even showed up
how long would it take for a civil war in hell?
IMP gang gets trapped outside during one of the exterminations.
>Blitzo has a problem stealing when first confronted in hell
He didnt say shit about stealing being bad, he was worried he would get caught. Which when you think about it, is a fair thing to worry about when stealing from literal demon royalty with magical powers.
>the real hell is society
before:
>Stella is pissed at Stolas for fricking an imp
after:
>Stella is pissed at Stolas because she's just a massive c**t who hates him for no apparent reason and therefor Stolas cheating on her is okay and he dindu nuffin wrong
viv is a fricking hack
Don't forget how we're officially in "Blitzo and Stolas did nothing wrong" territory with all the parental abuse bullshit in their now shared backstory.
>no apparent reason
She's a spoiled little brat who was thrust into a loveless marriage without a single say from herself, she has a fricking smorgasbord of reasons to hate on Stolas. And since when has it been indicated that Stolas cheating was ok? His entire life has fallen to pieces because of a whim of passion. If anything, fricking Blitzo made his already dreary life even more grating than it was before
that's the problem, viv pretty much completely retconned everything we thought we knew about their relationship, in order to make Stolas seem like a good boy who dindu nuffin wrong
Agreed.
It really should have been that both Stella and Stolas made mistakes in their marriage. So no one was fully at fault.
But she decided to make Stolas the innocent little gay angel. And Stella is just a massive c**t for no real reason.
i'm crusious about Stella's relationship woth Octavia tho. from what little we saw in S1 it didn't look like she was much involved, so she wasn't that good of a character even before
Stella is an aristocrat, so her daughter gets a certain amount of her attention, and of course she cares for her, but her primary focus in life is on her position. Marrying Stolas was supposed to give her a grand old life of awesome demon royalty shit, but all Stolas does is sit around and mope, and he can’t even get his dick up (for her), so of course she resents him because her status is tied to what he does.
Octavia is now her ticket back to being someone meaningful. If Stolas dies, then Octavia inherits his position, which puts Stella back in to a position of social capital as the mother of the person who does whatever Stolas is supposed to be doing. That’s why she’s so intent on killing him.
Whole episode was about how his life was shit before cheating too. It's whitewashing garbage.
Stolas is the best character
Stellagays coping so hard they start writing fanfic as bad as Vivz's writing
SAD!
I don't even care about Stella emotionally, I just want to see an sexually frustrated older woman doming a younger man like a reverse of her husband with Blitzo
Basically was hoping for an interaction like this in show
The argument ceased, Her Ladyship stepped out through the door, her appearance impeccable, a far cry from the nightmare that had come screaming in. She glanced at Moonchild and smiled. It wasn't a friendly smile, it was the sort of smile a fox might reserve for a cornered field mouse. She ran the back of her hand down his smooth, blemish-less cheek, hooking a long talon under his fine, pointed chin, raising his gaze to meet hers.
"I love your sweater," she said, her voice now a smooth, syrupy contralto.
"Thank you, My Lady."
"I should like to see it on the floor of my boudoir once your shift is done, understood?"
I dont know if you’re the one who recommended that fic in that other thread but thanks, I spent a day reading the whole thing and now I’m still massively bummed out over the ending.
I don't think Stolas would care if she was fricking someone else. Not like they ever loved each other. Especially as of right now.
It would be a funny twist if it did bother him tho. Like he straight up drop Blitzo to go act exactly like Stella did to him.
But he's gay, and he's been shown to not care so much about class differences. He'd most likely just be relieved to get her off his dick
>MORE Stellagayging
What are the mental gymnastics that you gays use to simp over her anyway?
No amount of coping will make the writing not-shit.
The only thing that will is you taking the L and actually listening and applying the criticism instead of throwing a petulent tantrum, screeching at random bullshit.
The only decent criticism is that they didn't set it up right. Everything else? Waifugays' salty tears.
>The only thing that will is you taking the L and actually listening and applying the criticism instead of throwing a petulent tantrum, screeching at random bullshit.
>posting this like stellagays don't exist in this thread
the fricking irony of this post
>Noooo! There are autists on an autism basket weaving forum so that means all criticism is null!
You absolute monkey. No amount deflection and sub par memes will fix the writing other than actually WORKING ON IT intead of jerking yourself off, inserting personal life drama and listening to brainlet yes-men on twatter.
I don't give two shits about what autists jerk off too.
I want the writing to be of higher quality than the slop the hacks presented us with.
I want the characters to have an actual depth.
I want to see more of other characters instead of same two writers' pets over and over again and their boring, lazily written gay melodrama.
Git gudder at writing already.
>all this coping
>all this seething
>all this armchair psychology
>just because his jerk-off choice of the pink owl isn't treated the best in an internet cartoon
I thought she was a swan
I think she's a secretarybird
You seem kinda mad right now, bro.
dude, i just pointed to the irony of your post and now i'm not even sure you meant to reply to my post with all this shit that's not related or you're just an average stellagay
about time Allister converted.
Are they ever going back to where they kills humans as their job?
Technically it's only been two episodes
They can't properly do it until they resolve the big heap of drama they dumped in the show these past two episodes, which will take at least one more episode. They could technically have them take on a mission this next episode, but their human-killing would just be a backdrop to Blitzo's relationship troubles, not the real focus of the episode.
There's so much good potential for hit jobs
Imagine if-
>someone wants a president dead (please no real political analogs, just "a president") and they have to go through the military or something to get to him
>they have to fight prepper-types, such as rednecks that have night vision goggles and 100 guns
>they have a string of jobs in the same town and a crazy Mr. Crocker-like obsessive keeps seeing them and tries to prove demons exist
>have to kill someone in a high-security prison
>a kid sets up an overtly elaborate trap to catch the easter bunny or santa and they instead catch one of the imps and keep trying to play with it
>they're set up to kill someone that is a cultist and conflicts of interest arise (such as someone that prays to stolas or something)
Oh shit if they want to have Moxxie and Millie having a kid as a plot point the kid capturing one of them thing could work where (probably Moxxie) gets kidnapped by the kid and ends up getting along well with it, to the point that leads to discussion of having children
(With Blitzo interjecting gross-out humor like "I'm your boss so I get to eat Millie's placenta")
There's no way they could kill a president without exposing themselves. Their whole business is illegal in hell and only works as long as none of hell's big shots notice
>as long as none of hell's big shots notice
Which they will since even Stolas got caught on camera
Good point, I forgot about that. That's bound to become important in this season
>a person is worried their spouse will end up in heaven so they want IMP to convince them to kill themselves
Pretty similar to the Lyle case but a lot more wholesome.
>a human follows them back to Hell, chaos insues
>someone hires them to bodyguard someone on earth, another hires them to assassinate the same person, M&M vs team bloona insues
>blitzo has a nuke, no idea how he got it, wants to sell it to the highest bidder in Hell
>a God damned mother fricking millie episode that we should have already gotten
>a rival earthling assassination business pops up, they want competition but blitzo wants to just kill them
Weird that Millie hasn't gotten an entire episode. Pieces of episodes feel like they're about her, but nothing more. Geez maybe the biggest flaw with the show is simply there isn't enough of it.
>tfw a tumblrite woke-af lady fails the bechdel test this hard
Yeah, it is suprising the female characters in a show created by a woman are pretty much background characters. It reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist how the author is a woman, but most of the female characters are really 1-dimensional "strong, badass, warrior chick" tropes. Winry is the only female character with any sort of depth or character arc, and she's only in probably like a third of the story.
Hey Olivier Armstrong is my kind of woman. Wish Helluva Boss had more of her kind of character instead of this fujo spineless shit.
That's fine if you think she's hot, but she has no personality other than strong woman who can kick any man's ass, and she has zero character devlopment. Same with Hawkeye, Izumi, Lan Fan, Mae Chang, Lust, Maria Ross, Winry's grandmother, and so on
>Men prefer male characters when writing stories
>Women prefer male characters when writing stories
>The only time people prefer female characters is to either jerk off to them or to get leftist brownie points
When was the last time something even did speaking female characters well and didn't make them about T&A? Some Moeshit anime? Alien?
Technically Attack on Titan, but I found the color palette so fricking drab it was an eye sore.
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I liked it a lot until the horrible ending. Seriously, that was the Tsar Bomba of bad endings. What End of Evangelion has in spectacular Attack on titan has in equal parts shit. You can't make it worse while being sincere. It'll be remembered for decades as one of the shittiest endings ever. The seethe from anime-onlys is going to reach nuclear levels of cope.
50 years from now there could be serious literary discussions about Angel Dust saying "Harder daddy" and hearing "Son?" in response
Anons, where can one find a hot Millie-like GF?
>murder-happy psycho b***h
Check prison.
Try ohio
did the imps get away with stealing all that shit in the flashback?
or did stolas' dad find and kill them off screen which is why blitz's brother turned evil?
>blitz's brother
You’re gonna be very confused when they finally confirm that Fizz and Blitzo fricked.
this
Remember that Blitzo's dad didn't bring up the "he's my son" thing when he thought Stolas's dad wanted to buy him
Plus, you don't look at your brother like this.
Or at least you shouldn't.
>Or at least you shouldn't.
Says who?
I really think the hellions should be more chill about incest than they are, and not just for fetish reasons.
Woke, furries and trannies hate incest to a pathological extent so it doesn't matter if Incest make sense in a setting, they'll never ever acknowledge it outside of to say how evil it is and even demons wouldn't do it.
Same with Hell having an age of consent of 18, cause those people can't imagine non-american non-LA standards and need to cover their ass so no one think to look at the grooming they got going.
There's metric tons of incest furry porn out there.
Sure but it's commission work, the artists are generally not even furries to begin with. I only know like 2 furries who are into incest and only a handful more furries who don't screech like harpies the moment they hear about shit like Ben x Gwen.
>more MeatFizz
Frick that guy, bring back RoboFizz!
>But you should
Fixed it for you.
Are you guys ready for Stolas in human disguise?
What would be the art style her art reminds me of?
Or the list of inspirations for her art?
No I'm not. No more Stolas. I am ready, however, for Loona temper tantrum and Blitz killing Loonie's potential boyfriend and hiding the body.
all frickable
>The only white one is the cuck that get pegged
proofs he got cucked?
>Season 1 finale shows that Blitzo can't see Stolas as his romantic partner not only because Stolas doesn't do anything, but due to his own insecurities.
>Season 2 premiere reveals that Stolas had always been miserable and deliberately broke things off with Stella in order to pursue Blitzo.
>yfw Blitzo still rejects Stolas due to his own insecurities even after the latter did all that for him.
Stolas is just going to suffer, isn't he?
Stolas has been framing their relationship as “you frick me” since he stole the book. Blitzo naturally feels he’s just a booty call in a relationship where they are both just using the other, and his own insecurities about his relationships blinds him to Stolas saying he would like them to be something more.
>Stolas has been framing their relationship as “you frick me” since he stole the book.
Then it's Stolas's fault if Blitzo rejects his offer of being something more. Turns out trying to have your cake and eating it too (Trying to keep both Blitzo and royal status, in this case) can only lead to horrible consequences.
honestly suprised choice A isn’t the majority despite them making stolas a dindu
Wow chill with homophobia twitter
I want to see human disguise Blitzo, especially if the disguise isn't finished and we can still see the demon's aspects, which forces him to conceal those parts.
Oh, and he should tell Stolas his true feelings while he's half-disguised as a human symbolizing how broken he feels.
The show's fanbase would hate Stella even more for that, and I would love every moment of them tripping over themsevles explaining why Stolas is justified in cheating on Stella but Stella doing it is bad because she's an evil b***h who gets in the way of their yaoi shipping.
I want to see Stella end up a GF to an Imp. The hypocrisy would be sexy.
I mean no shit.
She started the whole mess being an butthole for no (so far) discernable reason, causing the other part to just seek any sort of affection elsewhere.
Her doing it as a gotcha would be so openly hypocritical that it'd be just jarring.
>OH LOOK I CAN FRICK A NI- IMP TOO
>Why the hell haven't you cheated earlier then if Stolas sucked so bad at sex AND done the first move
She would be even more pathetic as she would then be moved by pure spite even at cheating. Stolas at least had the excuse of being absolutely parched.
That said if she fricks Stryker the fandom would forgive her. Specially if something organic comes out
>Stolas is justified in cheating on Stella but Stella doing it is bad because she's an evil b***h who gets in the way of their yaoi shipping.
Because that would be hypocritical of her you dumb frick
No, it would be justified payback, you seething gay.
The only way for Stolas and Blitzo to know if they truly love each other to get married and then pass the ultimate test of a relationship.
Honestly it'd be sweet if Stolas lost everything and Blitzo discovered he still loved the bird.
I get the feeling Stolas is about to cut Blitzo loose. He'll give him that Asmodean crystal so he can go to the human world in a "Here, this is what you really wanted all along" kind of way so he can move on without him
Then Blitzo will have to be the one seeking him out for once. He'll realize, "Shit, I need him. FRICK."
Would Loona love a human
Only if he's black
With dogs its usually the opposite
Being a lesbian doesn't make it better
Ew.
best character design on the show imo
Honestly, this whole show would have been a lot better off it it took place in a completely different setting
Instead ot demons, they are just different members of a civilization built on a species hiarchy, with the birds being at the top and the imps and dogs being their slaves/ lower castes
The whole assassination plot coult be twisted as them simply killing higher ups of the bird caste and getting their contracts from spirits or just living individuals who were wronged
All of this could still work if the society is very cutthroat and so assassination is very commonplace, especially amongst the nobility
I fricking despise every single musical in this show but for some reason the stolas one is actually somewhat good
Emotional?
no just a mix of not liking musicals in general (due to them being awfully cheery or just cheesy) and the song actually being decent idk im not a song expert lol
are musicals, books and other artforms actually good? used to love all kinds of artforms but my interest kinda just died after i found out that video games are in fact very addicting. anime doesnt count since i can barely stand them except 2 or 3 animes i seriously care about
Loona or Via singing later in season 2?
cant stand both of em, hopefully neither
Asmodeus's song is best, mostly because they actually got good singers for it.
Asmodeus himself is one of the better aspects of the show. I’m interested in seeing the rest of the 7 as the series goes, hopefully they’re all voiced by broadway actors.
Stolas and Asmodeus do the musical numbers better because.. they both have VAs from broadway. Singing is normal to them.
Are they ever gonna tell us what happened to her after she went to hell? Did the teacher lady rape her for eternity?
They became lovers
They really should've
>"Welcome to Hell, Martha. The same place you got me sent. You and I are going to become very close. Think I look scary? Wait till you spent a little more time here. You'll grow into your demon form very soon."
What do you think Demon-Martha will look like, considering how evil she is compared to Mayberry?
I like this design where her eye gets taken out
She's the demon-teacher's personal les-bitch.
I really hope we get to see the revenge of Mayberry on her thick butt.
>This b***h and her crazy ass family are all in Hell
I wonder how that teacher is doing. Now that I think about it, sending your enemy to Hell would be the last thing one would want to do.
Blitzo and stolas plot kinda mid ngl
I liked it when stolas was just this frickboy compared to having drama going on.
They should just confess their feelings for one another to resolve the arc. They end up lovers, we go back to IMP shooting things.
Honestly I’m fine with an overarching plot but we needed a bit more time to establish just how Blitzo really feels about Stolas. Plus the best episodes so far have been the ones that focus on IMP on a mission, or being captured by a bunch of government agents (even though the songs in that one felt really hokey)
We should have an episode where Blitzo finally thinks about his relationship with Stolas, maybe confiding in Moxxie and Millie.
oh right isnt this cartoon supposed to be about more than just these 2 people? i completely forgot lol. although it kinda was ok up to this point
Oh yea it's fine that it's happening nothing wrong with a bit of drama afterall. It just seems like the show has this idea of humans being the ones to cause drama
pog.
I’m curious to see if when the rest of the 7 princes show up they also show themselves not truly acting on their respective sin like Asmodeus was. For a demon who hates whenever others show love towards another, he sure did seem very affectionate to Fizz.
When you see it, you'll shit bricks
I give up. What am I missing here?
Look at the tags
Alright. I don't understand the significance though.
#Ialmostchokedononeofthoseballs
I don't think you understand the "when you see it" meme
I wish there was more of Blitzo's horse in the episodes
seriously in the voxtagram post Blitzo is obsessed with horses, did the show itself ever reference it? It's funny
Verosika said he maxed out her credit cards buying horseback riding lessons.
He's shown fawning over a horse at Millie's family farm
in episode 4 he spends all the client’s money on a weed horse toy
So on a scale of "Kinda gay" to "Shits rainbows and aids" how gay is Stolas by this point?
He's at a "Listens to showtunes in the car"
Making Stolas the unambiguous good guy/victim was shit writing
e-girl bird demon makes me so hard
cute
So, if Blitzo's father wanted all the gold and shit why didn't he ask for it when Stolas' father asked how much to buy him?
Because he believed he could get more out of it by stealing stuff from the mantion.
Because the show is badly written nonsense and this episode was the last minute fanfic episode to whitewash Stolas and make the writer's ship look clean.
Have Sex With Owl Women
>girls only episode
>stella is depressed for getting divorced
>octavia takes her for a walk in the park
>they meet loona
>"she just needs to get some dick"
>she helps them get a human disguise for more fanart
>stella brings them up to earth
>go to club and gangbang
i fricking HATE musicals but stolas' song was good and the voice actor did a good job
its healthy by 202X standards
It took a while but first pic of the REAL Owl Mommy has arrived
>die and go to hell
>there's no musicals or gay romance just endless suffering
I think musicals and gay romances would be endless suffering for me so
same
DO IT
>implying that this is a recent development
Reminder that Paradise Lost and Divine Comedy were also fanfiction
>mfw hazbin hotel gets seen as biblical canon a few centuries from now
Dam, who would have guess a character's childhood being revealed would cause this much fighting? Oh well, mostly like her for the non-canon art.
What if she saw how good stolas is for her and begs him to take her back?
Are Imps the Black folk of hell?
sinners are the Black folk of hell
My prediction for season 2 is that we'll get more focus on Blitz's and Fizzarolli's shared past.
The finale of season 1 hinting at some sort of traumatic past that
Blitz went through+his face scar+Fizzo having robot limbs and being hostile toward
Blitz makes me think that in some unfortunate accident Blitz helped kill his mother and make Fizz limbless.
His sister ended up as a alcoholic as a coping mechanism and Blitz adopted
Loona as a sort of selfish redemption. Are we getting something new or more episodic assassinations with gay drama
Literally every other character except the two gays, the cherubs and the MIB were interesting but completely ignored in favor of Rodgers retelling of his dysfunctional love life
Embarrassing for you, fujo prostitute.
Literally been seething at anyone pointing the obvious problems with the episode just cause you're proud of a fricking headcanon.
Half those posts are yours, that still pretty embarrassing Stellacuck. I'm sorry your headcanons about Stolas being a predator and Stella being a good wifey were disproven
>You proved me wrong but I'm still right
Cope. All those posts were yours, that's the actual embarrassing part.
>I'm sorry your headcanons about Stolas being a predator and Stella being a good wifey were disproven
I'm sorry I mind broke you so hard you had to make up a whole fanfiction in your head to cope instead of acknowledging anything actually said in this discussion.
>All those posts were yours
You fricking wish
Nice inspect element.
If Stellagays want to rally around a female character who was wronged by a gay man Verosika's right there, especially since it's implied that Blitzo really hurt her.
>Other people should do something that doesn't upset me
Go back to Tumblr, please. You don't decide the topic of a thread.
Also Verosilka and Blitzo's relationship wasn't credible, they felt like a catty gay man and a woman having a b***h off, not bitter exes.
>Also Verosilka and Blitzo's relationship wasn't credible,
But Stella and Stolas' was?
What is this Stellgay even arguing
they got attached to someone who was ontologically evil from the first frame and now feel betrayed
How do you feel seeing everyone point out the episode was shit and having to cope by calling them all 'Stella gays'?
episode could be shit for all I care but Stella was never shown in a positive light thorough the whole show. Even in season 1 she was shown to be an absolute b***h so it made sense for stolas to cheat because why would anyone want her, but dont worry shell get a shitty redemption
>everyone
I liked it, other anons liked it
Yeah I get that but what is their main arguing point right now?
That mama Vizie betrayed their schizoid headcanon
>MAMA VIZIE MADE MY HEADCANON TRUE!!! IT IS THE GREATEST ACHIVEMENT OF MY LIFE SO DON'T SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT THE EPISODE!!!
Friendly reminder you outed this was your whole motivation for defending the episode.
Didn't you post earlier that kept saying the same shit for months and now just whine at people cause you feel vindicated? Are you seriously gonna talk about headcanons after that?
how would you know
Just because its her story doesnt mean she should control what gets retconned
what got retconned
Don't bother asking. They refuse to give a straight answer
You know people can see the dozens of posts clearly and directly saying what got retconned, right? You can't be that delusional.
Not a retcon. They're just too dumb to notice subtext that was always there and that pretty clearly hinted at Stella's true nature if you paid attention. Also, nobody wants to acknowledge the fact she put out a hit on her child's father and doubled down right in front of her at the dinner table
>inb4 it's fine to murder your husband if he cheats
>>inb4 it's fine to murder
The show doesn't have a problem with murder in any other context. Blitzo and the others have killed dozens of people, and none of them except for Moxxie in the first episode Millie have shown any compunctions about the possibility that the people they're killing are innocents. Millie's sister murders other demons, too, and the show treats it as a funny joke. Stella wanting to kill her husband is no different on a moral level.
I'll grant you that it's a double standard, but Loo Loo Land makes it pretty clear that murdering Stolas isn't supposed to be seen as acceptable just because they're in hell. Octavia barely even acts like a demon
>Loo Loo Land makes it pretty clear that murdering Stolas isn't supposed to be seen as acceptable just because they're in hell
Where? I don't recall anyone saying that it would be a wrong thing to do. Stolas is against it because of self-preservation, Ocatavia is against it because she likes her dad, and IMP is against it because they've been hired to prevent it.
>Octavia barely even acts like a demon
I mean, we don't even know how a demons is supposed to act in the HB/HH world, so that's not exactly a meaningful statement. We know they're not necessarily be intrinsically "evil" like demons in Christianity, but there's yet to be a coherent picture of what demons are supopsed to be like.
I'm not talking about the bodyguard thing but the bond between Octavia and Stolas. Despite being demons, they have a very relatable, if strained father-daughter relationship that the writers want you to care about. Knowing that, we know that Stella's later actions would be horribly traumatizing for her daughter if she actually succeeded, and Stella either doesn't know her daughter well enough to consider it a factor or just plain doesn't care about her feelings
Yes, and I'm sure at least some of the people IMP killed, and some of the imps Millie and her sister killed, also had families who cared for them and grieved at their deaths, but, again, murdering those people is okay in the show. The only things that set Stolas apart from them is that he's a main character, so the fans are more attached to him than to some random nameless imp, and he's part of hell's nobility, so it might be taboo for someone of lesser status to kill him. Neither of those grants his death any greater moral significance than the death of anyone else.
Humans who are killed go to Heaven or Hell, Demons who are killed are just gone forever.
Anon, Millie and her sister are both mentioned as having "a neighborhood head-count". That means they've killed numerous imps, and the show never has that reflect poorly on them.
>Stella wanting to kill her husband is no different on a moral level.
It's different because you're meant to sympathize with Stolas, and you're not meant to like Stella or find her quirky/cool like the other characters. There's a word for this kind of writing.
>Not a retcon.
Reality and the dictionary disagree. You got outed as not even knowing what the word mean, sit down.
>Stella's true nature
Stella's 'true nature' has nothing to do with anything anyone is saying, you schizo. They are characters in a story, not real people.
>paid attention
Good thing I did, that way I know you're wrong.
>nobody wants to acknowledge
Everyone does, it's literally in an episode we talked about earlier, dumbfrick. They're in hell and nobody said Stella was nice.
>doubled down at the dinner table
Cause it's funny and they are in hell, it's literally normal for them, that's why the show is funny.
Sorry but nobody cares what your favorite episodes are, you liking them doesn't make them the best.
Also I'm your king and I say you hated those episodes.
>show is going where I want it so its a show for me, not for you
Nice schizo point unrelated to what anyone said.
>i-i-i-it's not bad writing, it's just not for you
The Last Jedi tier cope and ultimate proof you're wrong and everyone else is right.
cope
I'll be enjoying my show while you seethe and ramble
Here's the definition straight from Webster you moron
>the act, practice, or result of changing an existing fictional narrative by introducing new information in a later work that recontextualizes previously established events, characters, etc.
Nothing got changed. A flashback is not inherently a retcon. The pilot is not canon. The hints were always there. You just refused to believe them. Deal with it.
>inb4 it's fine to murder your husband if he cheats
It IS specially when you are LITERAL DEMONS FROM HELL
Hiring hitmen there must be as casual as hiring a fricking plumber is on earth
Instead of Stella being angry at Stolas for cheating with an Imp, she was just always like that.
Instead of fricking Stolas in exchange for the book, Blitzo just does it out of pity.
Instead of using the book to get sex with Blitzo, Stolas somehow think the relationship is genuine.
AKA shit that get contradicted by the pilot, episode 1 and the Lululand episode and make Stolas frankly brain dead cause Blitzo tell him to his face it's just business.
holy shit you are actually moronic, I'm sorry
Cope harder, it's funny to see.
>along with the hallucination trip
That was literally the worst moment in the show.
Watch out, they're gonna call you a Stellagay and ask what worldbuilding rules it broke no matter how many times you answer.
why are you even watching this, its clearly not for you
>STOP SAYING TRUE THINGS, I SAID IT'S NOT FOR YOU!!!
I don't care. I'll point out bad writing as much as I want.
>N-n-n-no u
Keep coping and seething.
>I-i-i-i-i'll enjoy
You're clearly not enjoying anything cause you're here begging for everyone's approval of that shit writing to feel better because you know we're right.
Good to see you literally every single one of your points cause you know they don't hold up.
Vivzie lore say they either become part of hell or they just respawn.
you're going full schizo mode over a cartoon
>Responding to every point I made one by one is going schizo mode
You're coping over bad writing cause you feel it validated your ship.
I don't have to cope over bad writing cause I don't lose my mind over bad writing
but yes stolblitz bros can't stop winning
>I don't have to do what I'm doing right now
Lol.
>Cry for hours about how it's not bad writing
>Get bullied into admitting it is indeed bad writing
>Try to claim victory in the same post.
Getting on your knees and admitting we were right is winning to you? Sad.
classic "if someone disagrees with me they're the same person" move
Classic 'If I'm getting destroyed, bring up some pointless nonsense' move.
>R-r-r-moron
You mean the definition I posted earlier? The one that made you kneel for hours before you came up with that cope?
>Nothing got changed
Whole context of the scene changed, fitting the 'recontextualizes previously established events' part of the definition that you can't seem to be able to read.
>A flashback is not inherently a retcon.
Yes and? That one is, that's what matters.
>The pilot is not canon
This very episode disagrees.
>The hints were always there.
Non-existing hints to irrelevant shit that doesn't matter to the discussion.
>You just refused to believe them.
I'm not whoever bullied you here for months, you're not getting any kind of payback against whoever you're raging against, you're just humiliating yourself.
>Deal with it
Just like you need to deal with what a retcon is?
>pointing out the fact that I'm not the anon who allegedly been "crying for hours", who is probably several people to begin with is pointless nonsense
you are mentally I'll
you are having an episode over a cartoon
I mind broke you so hard, you can't even write 'mentally ill', all that over a cartoon.
You are the only moron seething at me who doesn't use capital letter genius and you've been at it for 2 hours, everything I said is just true.
>It's called picking up on context cues, which you seem incapable of doing.
I am incapable of making up a headcanon and then seethe about it for months, yes. Not everyone is as sad as you.
>There was extra focus on her action with a zoom-in and sound effect, which makes his action of stopping her stand out. It reminds me of the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 when Rei stops Asuka from slapping her, a clear callback to when Asuka actually slapped her in the original series.
Literal schizo babbles that devolve into talking about fricking anime. Go back to Cinemaphile.
>Vivzie lore say they either become part of hell or they just respawn
Not if they're taken out with angelic weaponry, which is what Stella wants
I guess you don't know how arranged marriages for political gain works. It's given that the pair is devoid of any mutual love. Stella is a an abusive b***h that hates being in the marriage same way as Stolas but shows it through violent means. Stolas just fricks Blitz as his cope but woala turned out it wasn't just for that
The pilot isn't even canon, everyone was more of an butthole in the pilot except Millie
Retcons in general are a lazy way to write a story and that's ignoring how it can make a story feel disjointed as hell, which has been a problem for the two last episodes.
but the last two episodes are the best two episodes
along with the hallucination trip
Nah, the last two episodes are shit, especially since they skipped an episode so a bunch of shit doesn't even make sense.
Best episode was probably the second one, it had the coolest song.
sorry but you don't get to decide what my favorite episodes are
show is going where I want it so its a show for me, not for you
>skipped
nothing got skipped, its literally the morning after
how can you not follow a fricking cartoon
>nothing got skipped
The staff said otherwise.
>how can you not follow a fricking cartoon
I dunno, how can you desperately try to defend a cartoon when you don't even know the basic news about it.
>I guess
Nobody cares and you guessed wrong.
>t's given that the pair is devoid of any mutual love.
Irrelevant.
>Stella is a an abusive b***h that hates being in the marriage same way as Stolas but shows it through violent means
Also irrelevant and we never saw any violence between the two. They are aristocrats, they hired assassins for that.
>woala turned out it wasn't just for that
It is just for that, only thing that changed there is that Blitzo pities Stolas instead of just taking the book.
the frick do I need the news for if it connects and makes sense
why are you trying to find excuses to get mad?
just stop watching it if you don't like it
>the frick do I need the news for if it connects and makes sense
You need them to know they skipped an episode and that's why shit feel so disjointed, you moron, follow the discussion.
>why are you trying to find excuses to get mad?
Why are you making up a whole other discussion in your mind?
>just stop watching it if you don't like it
Stop defending bad writing if you can't cope with people pointing out how it's bad writing.
doesn't feel disjointed to me sounds like a you problem.
writing is fine
>The staff themselves say so and gave an explanation
>S-s-s-sound like a you problem
You're so mind broken and melting down, you're trying to argue with the very people who made the fricking thing, it's hilarious.
>writing is fine
It was proven otherwise, try again.
prove my balls lmao, I'm watching it and I'm loving it
I'm just gonna call you a stellagay and move on with my life
Nice of you to admit the whole 'Stella gay' shit is just a cope for you.
You'd have moved on hours ago if you could but you know we're right and that's why you're seething so hard at everyone.
my first post ITT was 20 minutes ago by the way
>we never saw any violence between the two
She literally threw a servant at him in episode 2. And in the latest one she tried to backhand him, she's probably done that before but this is the first time he actually stopped her
>She literally threw a servant at him in episode 2
Slapstick.
>And in the latest one she tried to backhand him
He just told her he wanted a divorce
>she's probably done that before but this is the first time he actually stopped her
Literal headcanon.
Seriously, it's clear you've projected your IRL issues onto that shit and that's why you're so desperate to defend every aspect of what you feel validates it but it's just not healthy. It's just a cartoon and it's just anons talking about the writing, calm down.
>backhanding your spouse if you want a divorce is fine
Mental illness
>spouse
Neither Stella nor Stolas really consider the other their spouse, they're basically just two workers under contractional obligation to frick one another so how is it any different from when Blitzo or Loona, abuse Moxie? In fact, it might be worse because there's at least some emotional connection between Moxie and his co-workers.
>backhanding your spouse if you want a divorce is fine
They are in hell, you moron.
And slapping your cheating husband when he ask for a divorce after shit talking you isn't nice but it isn't a abuse.
Loo Loo Land is the episode that make it clear assassination attempt are a daily thing for Stolas that he doesn't even react to anyway, right?
That's the opposite of it not being acceptable.
>I-i-i-i-i'm gonna move on
>Is still here begging for a crumb of validation to cope
Lol. Lmao.
>Literal headcanon
It's called picking up on context cues, which you seem incapable of doing. There was extra focus on her action with a zoom-in and sound effect, which makes his action of stopping her stand out. It reminds me of the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 when Rei stops Asuka from slapping her, a clear callback to when Asuka actually slapped her in the original series.
1. yes it does
2. nothing got retconned
Something a fujo prostitute who's brain can't function without randomly going 'He criticize my shit ship so he must be in favor of the evil bird lady that doesn't like my ship too!!' can't understand.
AKA a basic understanding of the show and how writing works.
>who's brain
*whose brain
"who's" is only ever a contraction of "who is"
That's a stupid rule so I'll ignore it.
Welcome to the English language, motherfricker
I hadn't watched this shit since I didnt care, but the last episode showed up on youtube so I gave it a watch.
I enjoyed it just for the whole
>WHAT WAS THAT SOUND!?
>THAT! IS THE SOUND! OF A FRICKING DIVORSE!
I hate this trend of shoving gay shit on everything, but I like this character for at least being funny. The other bird demon is a massive c**t.
This episode was pretty good but it did also frick the world-building very harshly, the way vivz incremented real life demonology aspects into the characters was one of the main reasons why taking the concept of hell and turning it into a mirrored version of the living world didn't just become immediately stale as any other interpretation of hell, but am i supposed to believe a demon prince of hell, who has been cited in demonic compediums dating as far back as the renassaince, is not a 3000 years old demon appearing in a more suitable younger bodily form but instead some 30 something millenial dude? Either Blitzo is old which would justify him meeting Stolas as children, though production has gone on record saying that imps have short lifespans, or this episode just broke their own worldbuilding rules for the sake of angst.
They're definitely taking some liberties with the Ars Goetia "canon." See, this is actually a legitimate critique. I'm on the fence about how I feel about Stolas being in his 30s, but I'm still invested enough to see where this is going.
change of pace post your favorite irrelevant character
are stellagays even more delusional than arcanes vigays?
how's do you get shown literally on screen that you're wrong and still try to prove that you're not?
they don't even care for Stella, just want to be contrarian gaygs that want to pin-point amateurish writing from a passion project
Literally the most boring people on the planet
If Stolitz was interesting, maybe people would talk about it with the same passion.
I'm just waiting for the next episode and saving pictures about it
I hope it's the spring break episode, because I want to see more Loona.
shes a bit boring... but at least no one goes full moron over her like stella
Loona is a simpler character, with chiller motives(make friends, accept Blitzo as her dad). There's not much drama surrounding her otherwise like there is Stella and her role in Stolas storyline.
are you literally moronic?
do you step out of these threads to look at the rest of the fandom?
Ah so you're a twitter tard. No wonder your presence only made the thread worse. Also explains the mental illness and projections.
you sure are very sane, mr. king of the local schizo sandbox
You sure are from twitter, mister 'muh fandom'.
Screeching at everyone leveling valid criticism isn't gushing, it's being insecure.
i sure am! and were all the same person out to get ya! better run! >:3
Please keep going. I never broke a twitter parasite so hard they humiliated themselves like that for my entertainment before so keep at it, I want to see how low it can get.
Yeah anyone who doesn't agree with you is from the bad camp
Fandom liking something doesn't make the relationship any less boring. Look at Miraculous and it's love hectagon bullshit that shippers love eating up.
literally no one but children care about that show you need fresh air and if you know anything about it should be a clear sign to turn your life around
>literally no one but children
I have some bad news for you about Helluva Boss then...
no way they swear in it and frick!!!??!!
And the kids love it.
There's literally people in this very thread gushing about Stolitz.
me
literally why im watching the show is these two
well other characters are fun too but these two are the because
i just hope Blitz can get out of his shell with him instead of being a cringy anime deregay
heres to hoping
That would be beautiful, probably wont happen until the series finale but we can hope
>Samegayging cause no one will give attention to your garbage gay ship
Hilarious.
You don't express 'liking a show' by being an absolute sperg on a thread about it.
>be a sperg
>sperg in the thread all day
so what are you trying to express with that, exactly
>samegay!!!
cope lol
>L-l-l-lol
Samegay on suicide watch after getting outed.
>samegay!!!
meanwhile me and anons enjoying what the show is about
The show is meant to be about silly murderous imps doing silly murderous things, not some gay fujo fanfic tier shit
The show was blatantly gay from the first episode
too bad, homie
Better tell Viv and Brandon that
See this? This is the ultimate stage of a Tumblrina cope fest to defend their shit ship. They already slit their wrists and got all their arguments destroyed so they'll just spam bad fanarts in a desperate attempt to be snarky until the thread is archived.
The underage twittertards raging are also probably from their discord where they shared the thread to cope.
>Tumblr, Discord and Grooming
Name a more iconic trio.
this is our thread,
and were posting,
about,
you know,
two main characters of the show
feel free to leave
>Our thread
>Majority of the post are about the bad writing and retcons
>Stolas gays are literally 3 anons max to 110 other anons
Feel free to kneel more.
>Get real.
Stop coping first.
>Several people have pointed out how stupid your logic is
Never happened. You tried to screech and got humiliated by dozens of people.
>I'm pretty sure
Nobody cares and you're wrong.
>demented enough to believe that there is a single human being on this planet who has always given every conversation happening around them their full attention span throughout their entire life
You're demented and coping enough to think anyone made that claim when that never happened.
There's is a world of difference between not giving your full attention to a discussion and blacking out like a zombie. Not only that but even having said blacking out not interrupted by someone literally screaming right in your face.
If that happens to you, you genuinely have some kind of disorder or brain damage.
Based
If you're enjoying the show, why are you desperately samegayging for my approval? Because you know I'm right, samegay.
>Literally from Tumblr
Pack it up, ultimate proof I was right.
>he thinks I use tumblr/twitter for anything other than collecting art
Whatever helps you sleep at night
been here longer than you
cry about it
Nice outing yourself as a newbie too.
>He think anybody cares or believe him
It's too late, there's no recovery from this. Ever. You're now and forever a twitter and tumblr tourist just here to be a cancer.
which election did you come in
>He came in for an election
Good to know, tourist.
Going by your ongoing meltdown? You won't. You have that meltdown ever few Helluva threads.
You seems to be trying very hard to come up with a clever insult and failing pretty hard.
Don't worry, as your brain develop and you reach adulthood, you'll be able to succeed more often.
Oh no, how will I ever recover from being labeled on an anonymous basket-weaving forum
you seem very upset at the possibility of someone being more annoying than you
seethe harder moron
>N-n-n-no u
I'd tell you to cope harder but we know you reached your limit.
>So broken he speak of himself in the third person
Lol, a redditor being moronic, what a surprise.
>YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG POINT BY POINT, THAT'S MOVING THE GOALPOST!!!
Cope. Thanks for admitting you had no way to answer.
oh no, anon is using picture websites to get pictures from, how will he live with himself
this ones from reddit by the way, dont let your head explode!
One day at a time, my friend. One day at a time
holy shit, meds
>H-h-h-how dare you say things that are true?!!
Holy shit, cope.
I did and that's how I know your 14 year old ass is in special ed.
Gushing about something isn't the same as discussing it. People gush about Millie and Moxie, but there's not much to say about the two of them as a couple.
A lot of the meat for the relationship is on Blitzo's end, with Stolas waiting for him to get his shit together so he can rescue him from his abusive ex and her shenanigans.
I feel like they made Stolas less interesting. Even Stella brings up her brother/family in her parting and we still don't know her relationship with Octavia when Stolas is out of the picture.
Stolas's writing sort of gets the short end of the stick the more we learn about him.
>How dare the people I randomly called Stellagays to cope with the bad writing not care care about the character I said they're obsessed with?!
Holy cope, Batman.
Octavia is literally sitting at the table where her Mother is screaming about sending assassins after him, did you even watch the show? They are in hell, assassins are fricking normal, it's them succeeding that would be new and Stella is probably too dumb to even realize the implication of giving angel weapons to a fricking hitman.
Do YOU watch the show? Octavia didn't hear it because she was listening to music. It pretty strongly implies that if she did hear it she'd have a problem with it
she listens to music because she doesn't want to hear it do you live completely isolated from humans or just don't understand human behavior when they're faced with something they don't like and are powerless in the matter
>Headcanon
All we know about that scene is that she was listening to music because she wanted to listen to music. The reason doesn't even matter. It's so fricking obvious that the writers made her unable to hear Stella's phone call for a reason. You'd have to be severely autistic to not pick up on it
>More headcanon
Stolas was reading a book and tuning her out. You don't think if he'd been paying attention he would have done literally anything about it?
She shuts herself off from her family because their marriage is too toxic for her.
This is like 101 behavior of someone who lives in a house with parents that are toxic to each other.
Please use your fricking brain and stop grasping at straws to save yourself
This may come as a surprise to you, but sometimes people in toxic home environments who use music to escape will still listen to music just because they like music. Again, it doesn't even matter WHY she was listening to music. What matters is that they deliberately illustrated that she could not hear her mom calling a hitman, you imbecile
Now you're just being desperate. Don't tell me you've never been in a boring conversation that you stopped paying attention to halfway through even though they were right in front of you
>Now you're just being desperate.
Now you're just making shit up in your head to feel better again.
>Don't tell me you've never been in a boring conversation that you stopped paying attention to halfway through even though they were right in front of you
Nobody over the age of 14 does that and that's only at school. If that's an actual common occurrence for you, you're probably autistic or have ADHD cause a normal person just leave that kind of conversations.
>Again, it doesn't even matter
Again, it does, repeating otherwise won't change that.
>What matters
What matters is that they directly showed Stella screaming about it at the dinner table with the slightest attempt to hide, you mongoloid.
>Adults never tune each other out
You cannot be this fricking dumb. Have you never had coworkers?
>It matters why she was listening to the music
Fricking why. Why does it matter why she was listening to music in that scene? All the information we need in that three seconds where she's bobbing her head is that she can't hear her mom calling the hit. It's no wonder you're seething at this new episode if you've been too moronic to read between the lines this entire time. If anything this episode was necessary to finally hammer the point into your last brain cell
>Y-y-y-you don't share my social failures and inability to interact with others?!
Not being a massive autistic failure isn't dumb, pal.
>Have you never had coworkers?
I do, I just don't pretend to talk to them when I don't want to nor stay in discussion that literally turn me into a zombie, which is a thing that happen to you somehow.
>Fricking why.
Because if she listen to music cause she know she doesn't want to hear it, it means she know what's going on and just doesn't to be faced with it too much, as is actually established in the show as something she does in the fricking second episode. Meanwhile your nonsense is based on NOTHING but you projecting your weird ass hang ups on the character.
For someone obsessed with reading between the lines, you really refuse to look at what's between said lines.
>B-b-b-b-brain cell
This whole thread is just you getting mentally dominated by everyone to the point you admitted the whole thing was cause you got bullied for months on threads for your shitty headcanon, sit down.
>B-b-b-bad writing was actually necessary
Sit down and cope now.
>I'M NOT OWNED! I'M NOT OWNED!
Get real. Several people have pointed out how stupid your logic is and you just plug your ears. In fact at this point I'm pretty sure you're taking the piss because nobody is demented enough to believe that there is a single human being on this planet who has always given every conversation happening around them their full attention span throughout their entire life
have you literally never interacted with another human being?
>Reading a book make you deaf
>Started spamming 'headcanon' since I laughed at his headcanon
Nice cope, bro.
Your headcanon is once again shit tho.
>the reason doesn't matter
It does cause it ruin your headcanon.
t. anon that hasn't left his house in years and has been desperately shielding said cartoons for hours.
You are literally obsessed about said cartoon.
>It pretty strongly implies
Literal headcanon, Stolas heard and didn't care either despite it literally being about him.
>Literally type the same
>Only reply to my direct reply to them in a direct chain
>Not the same person
Cope.
Thanks for outing yourself for samegayging BTW, I hadn't even accused you of that.
Octavia can't even hear her over her music
>Stella is probably too dumb to even realize the implication of giving angel weapons to a fricking hitman
What was that about headcanon?
Octavia literally put on the music to avoid hearing their argument, you definitely didn't watch the show cause it's established in episode fricking 2.
>A guess about it blowing up in her face is an headcanon.
How many dose of copiums are you right now?
>No u
Mental ill cope.
>Another Helluva threads ruined by Tumblirinas, Twittergays and other mentally ill nutjobs.
At least we established the episode was badly written.
it was fine, get over yourself
Get over the fact you ruin threads.
Don't out yourself as a twitter parasite next time if you're that salty about it.
>thread full of people liking the show and full of people hating the show
>somehow people liking the show are the ones ruining it
really makes you think
>Pointing out flaws mean you hate the show
You need to be 18 to post on Cinemaphile.
No wonder this thread was garbage, it was filled with underaged twitter users.
>really makes you think
Really doesn't, it's pretty obvious.
ohoo, you upgraded from "its the same person" to "its several people BUT they are all underage and from twitter!"
you are making huge strides in your "mental" advancement anon, whats your next theory?
It's hilarious to see your mental degradation in real time.
>huge strides
You on the other hand haven't moved the slightest in hour, still kneeling in desperation in front of me despite all the nonsensical scenario you made up in your head.
That you are a cancer upon any discussion and your replies are boring attempt at a 'no u'.
so what are you doing right now, spergo?
Watch out, the 14 year old are angry now, they thought they sounded mature for their ages.