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What comic book artist comes up to mind when you read this?
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What comic book artist comes up to mind when you read this?
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i'll be honest i'm not gonna read that
not even so much that it's a lot of text, it's just giving me a headache in this format and i don't care
thank you for your contribution
Me?
Not a comic artist, but Dave Filoni
Literally Dan Didio in a nutshell.
>Literally Dan Didio in a nutshell.
>Closest /artist/ would be John Byrne.
Those are good calls. Brubaker comes to mind, too.
Not saying bendis because he doesn't have that kind of passion, he's just a lazy parasite, and jason aaron is just a tool for whenever they wanna ruin something.
Geoff Johns in the 2000s and 2010s
It's 100% Johns, this is exactly what his career arc has been. Don't forget he was literally a member of HEAT back in the day, only for him to infiltrate DC Comics and go about undoing Emerald Twilight so thoroughly it's as if it never happened at all.
Closest /artist/ would be John Byrne.
Otherwise, Geoff Johns in terms of writers.
Byrne is honestly probably the Ur example, his entire conflict with Shooter when you really boiled it down was Shooter wouldn't let him ignore continuity and asspull whatever fanfiction he wanted onto a page [and usually turn that page in late anyway].
>and usually turn that page in late anyway
How /late/ was Byrne exactly? Because I always got the impression he was a 1-2 page a day workhorse.
That's primarily because Shooter was good at riding his ass and forcing him to keep pace with deadlines which made him form some good habits, he just liked to pretend he totally was timely on his own. Once it was clear he no longer had to keep pace, he was pretty prone to rushing things last minute or putting shit off. He wasn't Liefield bad, but a day or so late was pretty common after awhile and half a week/a week late wasn't unheard of.
It just became less of a problem though because as the industry contracted, release schedules got more and more generous and workloads got smaller and smaller so nobody really fricking cares anymore. Particularly since everyone was doing it after a point. The industry started rapidly crumbling after Shooter was forced out of Marvel for a fricking reason.
Bendis with his weird Kitty obsession.
Spider-Man editors, Dan Slott, and Zebb Wells.
josh is okay
BenDavid Grabinski and post-divorce O'Malley.
Slott
Like a free association test? Evan Dorkin.
Evan Dorkin IMO
Geoff Johns, yeah? He's the most clear example of "fan gets to write comics to make his fanfic canon" I can think of. Anyone got the Superboy letter?
Yeah, and he was given the power to create realities in his image. To be honest, I like his big cross over miniseries events that I have read but I understand I like them because I'm reading them in a bubble and not considering how they're ignoring the series that are crossing over.
Me, I was like this once and oh boy did I hate my art so badly because of it
Turns out, forcing yourself to be the "NEXT BIG THING" is just gonna frick with you creatively
I ain't reading all that, so I'll say Morrison.
Has anyone on Cinemaphile ever thought of doing this themselves?
I mean, what if WE did this? Did what the comic says, did what Johns did. What if WE infiltrated DC or Marvel, worked our ways up the ladder, until we were in a position to write all our favorite superheroes and supervillains?
Then we could unfrick all the things we hate about modern comics.
I'm not a tribesman, so they won't let me in on the ground floor.
what's the point? We live in an era where you can just make your own shit that you 100% control and people will pay you just to continue existing (and even more for porn)
The thing is, they're not hiring people to let them FIX things. There's the rumor they wienerblocked Spencer at the last minute of his Spider-Man run, and i don't even hold him in high regard.
Does Cinemaphile think about fixing all the bullshit? Yeah, we're always talking about obvious ways it could be done, but that hasn't been the mindset in the industry for the most part since the 90s ended.
The people who fricked your comics up most likely thought the same thing, truly we are in a cycle
Honestly shit like this makes me almost want to like, start up a fund to see if we can get Jim Shooter a comic company again and enough capital for it to not die inside of a year.
Lol, that's exactly what the people who ruined comics, cartoons, video games and others did.
I wouldn't trust Cinemaphile to fix the things Cinemaphile complains about.
Jim Shooter
>Jim Shooter
I was having a great day and you just had to remind me of the worst fricking comic in the history of the multiverse!
Ian Flynn
But mostly Johns
Literally what Geoff Johns did with Superboy
This Johns fella sounds like a real a-hole.
At least it isn't the Bruce/Babs parts of The Killing Joke...
Bendis
Literally every capeshit writer.
Glad I came into this thread and saw the Geoff Johns was already posted numerous times, frick that guy
God Josh is so based.
Too bad all that shit eating can never ever help out the inherent dogshit that capeshit comics are ever since the first generation got outjewed by DC and Marvels upper management.
Uh anyway, probably Doomsday Clock.
I liked the black Rorschach guy, the rest of the series was a whole lot of nothing just for Doctor Manhattan to go "Hm, yeah maybe I won't be a whiny b***h."
Ah I see everyone else in this thread has already mentioned Geoff Johns. Good to know we're unanimous on this.
I think of Evan Dorkin because he wrote and drew this. But for who he is describing, Joe Quesada. He played nice, drew every assignment, worked everywhere that would pay, smile and nodded until he got EIC and perverted Marvel in his image.
HE GAVE WOLVERINE AN ORIGIN
HE MADE SPIDER-MAN SINGLE
HE DID CIVIL WAR
In fact, if you're reading this, feel free to list more of Quesada's sins. I know I'm missing a bunch.
>>HE GAVE WOLVERINE AN ORIGIN
Like the Spider-Marriage in the comic strip, this was a case of "If we don't do this first, this other medium will."
>In fact, if you're reading this, feel free to list more of Quesada's sins. I know I'm missing a bunch.
We'd be here all night.
How high up was Geoff Johns on the DC totem pole?
Was he the #4 guy at DC? #3?
Sophie campbell and tom waltz
Every single frick involved in retconning Peter and MJ's marriage.
Bruce timm
Barry coming back was also Didio and EVS pushing Johns.
Johns big example is Superboy tho
Hal and Barry were a fix, though.
Which is a surprise since it involves DilDio.