Here is the canon of the MCU re: gods

Here is the canon of the MCU re: gods
>Nordic gods aren't really gods, they're just aliens that masqueraded as gods to Earthlings
>But they're also literal gods and hang out with other gods from other pantheons
>This includes the Greek gods, who are all real
>Except for Athena, who was inspired by a completely unrelated alien named Thena, who isn't a god at all
>Also, the TRUE true gods are the Egyptian gods (who are also worshipped in Wakanda), who have no relation to the other gods mentioned so far
>Also also, there are many gods who never showed up on Earth and are unknown here, but are known to the gods who did show up on Earth, they were just never mentioned to their mortal friends

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Clarke's Third Law and its inverse should be assumed in any setting that has both aliens and magic/gods.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Clarke's third law and it's consequences have been disastrous

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I'm sick of "hurr magic and tech r same" no shitass tech is at least roughly based in real science while magic is all made up crap by nature

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The problem was that the law wasn't meant to be taken as an absolute fiction rule but now every moron hack thinks it is. It was only meant to describe situations were things like the prime directive might be at work. It wasn't an excuse to turn fantasy into vague sci fi.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think you understand what science is.
          Magic systems are science. It's just observable causes and repeatable effects.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think you understand what magic is.
            Magic systems are not science. They do not have causes and effects that can be explained through the laws of physics.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Except in settings where they do.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is none of them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem was that the law wasn't meant to be taken as an absolute fiction rule but now every moron hack thinks it is. It was only meant to describe situations were things like the prime directive might be at work. It wasn't an excuse to turn fantasy into vague sci fi.

        I don't think it should be used in every setting, but for something like Marvel Asgardians it works. It's not Star Trek, let alone any attempt at actual hard sci-fi.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >for something like Marvel Asgardians it works
          Until it doesn't.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong board

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're all cosmic beings from different dimensions.turn off your power level autism and enjoy the damn movie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you haven't noticed Thor is the most mishandled Avenger of the MCU where they couldn't decide if Asgardians were aliens or actual mythical beings

      >Just stop asking questions or think
      Frick off. It's not even about power levels here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the fun part is to work out how it makes sense, not how it contradicts itself.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But in hindsight, it doesn't. Thor movies were by far the weakest MCU installments (not counting shit like Captain Marvel or Eternals of course), and they flip flopped on what Asgardians could do.

          Take Love & Thunder for example; why do they make a big deal about the god killer blade, or the concept of gods dying? We've seen Thor almost bite it a half dozen times, and Asgardians have died in droves both to Hela and Thanos.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they flip flopped on what Asgardians could do
            they're a race of super beings with super magic and technology. they're so ancient that they are considered gods by humans.
            >why do they make a big deal about the god killer blade, or the concept of gods dying?
            because they're being hunted down.

            there. your arguments is over.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >considered gods by humans.
              No see they backpedaled on this later. It's not just "oh lower beings think we're gods" anymore, they start self-identifying as gods and drop all pretense that this is just advanced science. Furthermore, they make such a big deal about the necrosword.....despite the fact that we've already established killing Asgardians isn't a huge deal

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I regularly visited a group of people who considered me a god then I would end up self-identifying as a god eventually. Just makes things easier. Who's to say what a "real" god is and is not?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon you're making excuses for the films when really there's no justification to. There was an initial attempt to make it "Oh its just science we don't understand", but it was eventually abandoned. Why is this suddenly a controversial opinion?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pointing out your irrelevant autism is not "making excuses" because it's irrelevant shit that has nothing to do with the quality of the movies. Stop trying to insist that science and magic HAVE TO be completely different, especially in a capeshit blockbuster movie setting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >despite the fact that we've already established killing Asgardians isn't a huge deal
                How so? everyone who died is still dead-dead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In Thor Ragnarok they make a big deal about the necrosword being able to kill gods, when we've firmly established killing gods like Asgardians isnt' that huge of a feat.

                Just because you want to twist yourself in knots making excuses doesn't mean that the thing that actually happened in the movie didn't actually happen in the movie.

                I'm not making excuses though? It's easy for you to feel right when you clearly don't remember what happened in the films

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"You're the one misremembering the movies."
                >"Now let me misremember which movies is which LMAO"
                Okay buddy.
                The point is that magic and science are just two words for the same thing based on one's perspective. Strange calls himself a master of the mystic arts, Thor calls him a wizard. They're both right, they just see it differently. Asgardians are gods and they're space aliens, both are right depending on the person's perspective. It really is that simple and you're inventing pretzel logic making capeshit blockbuster movies more complicated than they actually are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And what am I misremembering? I think it's apparent that you're intentionally being the opposition for the sake of (You)s.
                >The point is that magic and science are just two words for the same thing based on one's perspective.
                Which we've established already calling it "magic" is a primitive perspective used by mortals. So if that is the case, then why do Asgardians suddenly just start calling it magic in later films?
                >Strange
                This is another example of an earlier movie suddenly just giving up and embracing it as full on magic. When Doctor Strange was first introduced, both the film and even the writers in interviews just called it a practice in which someone pulls from another dimension and so forth. This was later abandoned when Strange starts summoning snakes from his hand and turning water into wine. Why? Because Marvel Studios realized no one cared for the science explanation stuff, and just defaulted on magic asking you not to think about it.

                You keep talking about perspective, yet ignore the context entirely.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Which we've established already calling it "magic" is a primitive perspective used by mortals.
                Literally all he said is that her ancestors called it magic, because he's speaking to a human in the modern world. At no point did he say that "magic" is a primitive perspective used by inferior mortals, that's your personal invention and incorrect.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're interpreting the scene how you want because it proves you wrong as it is. Your mental gymnastics have no bearing here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who is this supposed to be?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my wife

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not that anon but I THINK originally this was supposed to be Bast

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and enjoy the damn movie.
      I can't. The movie sucked.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MCU is shit.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's her status?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also, the TRUE true gods are the Egyptian gods

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Thor is called god of thunder by ancient midgardians
    >eventually picks up the title
    it's jsut a title. what's the issue? what is Odin god of? or Sif or Volstagg? nobody is calling them gods. it's so unimportant that nobody pays heed to it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nobody is calling them gods.
      They call each other gods.

      Pointing out your irrelevant autism is not "making excuses" because it's irrelevant shit that has nothing to do with the quality of the movies. Stop trying to insist that science and magic HAVE TO be completely different, especially in a capeshit blockbuster movie setting.

      Why the insult? We're having a conversation. How is it irrelevant when I'm using what the films give us? Why is it a bad thing to point these inconsistencies out? I'm not calling you a bad person for liking the film, I'm merely addressing the fact that the writers/creators behind these films couldn't make up their minds

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You only think they're inconsistent because you think the explanations must be separate for no actual reason other than your own personal preconceptions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon why are you getting defensive? It's a simple train of thought here. In the original Thor movie they touch on "magic" just being advanced tech. You have the bifrost being a complex device, the destroyer armor being a remote sentry, no big deal. Same thing with Dark World Dark Elves.Then you get into Avengers Age of Ultron, Ragnarok, and other late additions just dropping the pretense entirely with characters just straight up calling it magic. You got Heimdall activating the bifrost to transport Banner despite the observatory being gone, there was Thor's visions in the mystical pool on Earth, and so on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you literally never seen a magitech setting before? Why does magic and tech have to be different?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And when did they establish that in the Thor movies?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally the first movie when Thor tells Jane that magic and science are two words for the same thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No see you're misremembering. In the original film Thor says her ancestors called it magic, and today she calls it science, hence the age old saying that to a primitive race they can't tell the difference. First film they just go all in on aliens. Later films they drop this and just start calling it magic, said specifically by Thor and other characters. There's no point in any of these movies where they go into that "magic-science steampunk harness energy" whatever you're referring to. That's unfortunately your own headcanon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody said steampunk until you did anon, wanna try that post again without inventing things?

                >Why does magic and tech have to be different?
                Because one is shit that doesn't exist and one is something that is man made through science.

                [...]
                >Literally the first movie when Thor tells Jane that magic and science are two words for the same thing.
                And you misinterpreted what he meant. "magic" is just what his people use for what we call science. What we identify as magic is the absence of science, because the primitive members of our kind apply it to whatever they don't understand. But it's all science, not magic. Asgardians are a technologically advanced species. That was one of the main points about the first Thor movie. That there is no such thing as magic as per how humans define it. The Bifrost is is a wormhole generator harnessed to allow for interstellar travel. Mjolnir is a super-advanced weapon. Ect, ect.

                Thor 1 basically cemented Schmidt's line in Captain America 1.
                >Science, not sorcery. But I understand the confusion. Great power has always baffled primitive man.

                >What we identify as magic
                is irrelevant since we're not Asgardians within the context of the MCU setting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody said steampunk
                I used that as a vague example to reference what you were touching on, which you said "magicscience".

                You are now bending over backwards trying to have it both ways, and cite thing that didn't happen in the films

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just because you want to twist yourself in knots making excuses doesn't mean that the thing that actually happened in the movie didn't actually happen in the movie.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why does magic and tech have to be different?
              Because one is shit that doesn't exist and one is something that is man made through science.

              Literally the first movie when Thor tells Jane that magic and science are two words for the same thing.

              >Literally the first movie when Thor tells Jane that magic and science are two words for the same thing.
              And you misinterpreted what he meant. "magic" is just what his people use for what we call science. What we identify as magic is the absence of science, because the primitive members of our kind apply it to whatever they don't understand. But it's all science, not magic. Asgardians are a technologically advanced species. That was one of the main points about the first Thor movie. That there is no such thing as magic as per how humans define it. The Bifrost is is a wormhole generator harnessed to allow for interstellar travel. Mjolnir is a super-advanced weapon. Ect, ect.

              Thor 1 basically cemented Schmidt's line in Captain America 1.
              >Science, not sorcery. But I understand the confusion. Great power has always baffled primitive man.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thor is the god of thunder because of his powers. it's just a name.

    it's like calling myself the god of faps.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hey I'm just asking questions
    why does this matter to you when it doesn't to the characters?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So you're just intentionally shitposting and trying to start an argument?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bro just turn your brain off bro haha just watch the epic moments and cool characters bro

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the first and second Thor movies they are supposed to be aliens that were worshipped as divine, magical beings by the ancient Nordic people (because to them, their advanced technology might as well have been magic)

    This was later abandoned for whatever reason

    Anybody saying anything else is literally fricking moronic, Bruce’s is is very clearly in both films. Odin even shouts “we are not gods” at Loki

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's shit writing but the MCU thor movies are comedies now so nobody cares

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does being a god even mean?

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