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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    YO SPATULA IS BACK

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey board artist, can you do layouts, too? Thanks!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly is a layout artist?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A layout artist figures out the staging of each scene. A board artist might LOOSELY convey a background in a couple of panels and then choose to omit it if the background never changes. So for example, the scene with Ren in the bathtub would have him floating in a tub with a couple of squiggles in the back to convey that it's the spaceship in the background.

        However, now storyboard artists are asked to get as many details of the background in the board as possible to the point where it's the exact composition you'll see in the final product and it's done so tightly that the background artists can use the boards as a reference point and trace over them for exact layout specifications.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/v1BMsqu.jpg

          Here's your new Ren & Stimpy, Cinemaphile

          NuRen and Stimpy really doesn't have an excuse, it should at least look as good as these Bob Camp boards (minus the last image which is a layout by Chris Reccardi I believe)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The upcoming new R&S will have the same animation quality as of the likes of anything from either Seth MacFarlane, Louren Bouchard or Justin Roiland.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I dunno if it'll be that bad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you anon.
          That is an almost superfluously well put answer.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why is them drawing backgrounds a bad thing?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's extra work that isn't part of the original board artists job and they aren't getting paid or being given extra time for that extra work. There are other job responsibilities that get saddled onto storyboard artists during a production when it's not part of their job description: clean-up, keyframes, sometimes even coloring panels or writing scenes entirely. If you want a detailed explanation on it, Toniko Pantoja does a good job explaining it and the term he uses is called "job creeping".

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks, I'll watch it later.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Producers skim money off the budget for themselves while gaslighting young artists to do more duties. It results in lower quality shows and artists burning out.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Boss fires someone and tells you to add their weekly duties to your workload and to still have it done by the end of the week. Your pay doesn’t change. You now have to work a ton more just so your boss can save some money.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >why is putting more work on one person a bad thing
            you moronic bro?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              it's just a background

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Fun fact: Despite current day board artists doing way more work than 90's board artists, the wages have not changed in twenty plus years.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I have seen Steven universes storyboards, they don't deserve to get paid at all

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's why they're forced to do everything. Execs see it as economical to make one person do a ton of shit and only get paid for a fraction of it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > Waaah give me 90K a year for making doodles that look like what every middle schooler drew in their science notebooks waaaah.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >CARTOONS ARE SO MUCH MORE SHIT THAN THEY WERE IN THE 90'S

              huh, i wonder why...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because idiot spoiled brats thought that taking out 90K + student loans so they could go to over-priced scam art colleges just to sell their souls to a giant media corporation would give them a fulfilling career and a living wage in the year of our lord 2022.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Blaming literal teenagers for being brainwashed by Disney and Friends

                Lmao, I hope cartoons remain terrible just to push you closer to suicide.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes! That's exactly what I'm doing. Being 18 doesn't excuse you from critical thinking, dingus.

                I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons

                I love cartoons. I hate predatory art colleges.

                >supporting colleges scamming people
                Mike Stoklasa would spit on your face

                I'm not supporting colleges scamming people. I literally laid out my distaste of art colleges charging insane admissions and how they prey on spoiled brats who think the only way they can enjoy college is taking out massive loans. You can't read, try again sweetums.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                > idiot spoiled brats
                Dunno if you’re the same anon, but the post I was referencing seemed very much to disparage people who want to become artists over the shitty systems they work within.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I hope you commit suicide, too, with an attitude like that.

                I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons

                Some of us actually have taste in cartoons. But it's Cinemaphile and for every good discussion you have 100 shitty ones. What did you expect?

                The threads that are the most fun end up being spats between empty-headed corporate bootlickers that beg for a job/beg to keep their job and claim to be animation fans while politics live rent free in the void they call their head, and people who strive for the days of classic animation and know they will never return in any form and should instead be appreciated and studied like a work of art.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >supporting colleges scamming people
                Mike Stoklasa would spit on your face

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Actually, in the case of a modern-day production, they tend to do some of the backgrounds BEFORE the storyboarding phase. In R&S's case, the board artists would make up environments for the background artists to create later. Like a random living room just for the sake of a scene of Ren and Stimpy interacting. But in this case, you can clearly see that this kitchen background is a rough drawing done by the background artist. It's using a different brush, it has a fly in the background symbolizing something for the animator to do late, etc. Board artists are usually asked to use existing backgrounds being done ahead of time which further limits what they're allowed to do in a scene. They can't invent, they MUST use assets.

          Normally, for a production that plans to have an environment that a lot of people will be referencing, the BG or maybe concept artists will draw a loose overhead shot and maybe some thumbnails pass it around. The board artists then use this as reference. However, because this is modern-day and studios want to cut costs as much as possible, the "concept shot" is actually the FINAL shot that they plan to use in the episode. So this kitchen shot, for example, is probably going to appear and have the background be re-used at least six or seven more times throughout that episode.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking hell, those storyboard panels look great. The last one must have been done on a bigger piece of paper though, the lines and detail aren't the same.

          Still, that's quality.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The layout artist fits the rough storyboard into the backgrounds and makes the characters on model

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They make the storyboard panel into a screencap that overseas people can adhere to. With the assistance of a bg artist, of course. It’s why a lot of cartoons like Steven universe are off model. Storyboarders are expected to do that too on top of designing characters, props, animating, backgrounds, writing jokes and do sfx.

        Being a writer seems waaaaaay easier tbh.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A layout artist figures out the staging of each scene. A board artist might LOOSELY convey a background in a couple of panels and then choose to omit it if the background never changes. So for example, the scene with Ren in the bathtub would have him floating in a tub with a couple of squiggles in the back to convey that it's the spaceship in the background.

      However, now storyboard artists are asked to get as many details of the background in the board as possible to the point where it's the exact composition you'll see in the final product and it's done so tightly that the background artists can use the boards as a reference point and trace over them for exact layout specifications.

      Man, I fricking love pencil drawings and pencil tests. Post some more if you have them.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >chicago party skghjsjcnjsx
    Also, it's a storyboard.
    Although it would be nice if the drawings were better, yes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >rough storyboard looks like a rough storyboard
      Damn.... ren and simpysisters.... it's over.......

      I think that's chicago party aunt from netflix

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >rough storyboard looks like a rough storyboard
      Damn.... ren and simpysisters.... it's over.......

      I think that's chicago party aunt from netflix

      It's not how the board is drawn, of course a board is going to be rough, it's the character design. Who thought it was a good idea to give Ren Big Nate eyes?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think they'll seriously go through with that
        They have to know it'd look wrong.
        Maybe they're struggling with how to adapt an artstyle designed for traditional animation to cheap digital stuff.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a rough storyboard moron, it's obviously not gonna look like that in the final product. You're literally just complaining about how it's drawn.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Stimpy has full eyes which proves that the eyes on Ren and Mr. Horse aren't shorthands. If they weren't supposed to have dot eyes they wouldn't draw them like that, it's not that fricking hard to draw eyes even for industry manchildren.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Just admit that you have no idea how the animation pipeline works. It doesn’t matter what you think people should do “because it’s not that hard”. It’s literally not the point of that specific job.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This is what it looks like after layout you moron. Each person in the pipeline has a job to do. Storyboarders draw a frickload and don’t need to make characters on model. It just wastes time. Layout artists do that,

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This is the second time this image was posted and no one sent the link to the artist.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Layout artists don't exist in the American industry anymore. It got merged with storyboard ages ago.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That's fanmade dumbass

    • 2 years ago
      guy

      Cringe.

      >rough storyboard looks like a rough storyboard
      Damn.... ren and simpysisters.... it's over.......

      I think that's chicago party aunt from netflix

      [...]
      It's not how the board is drawn, of course a board is going to be rough, it's the character design. Who thought it was a good idea to give Ren Big Nate eyes?

      Compare that to real Ren and Stimpy storyboarding

      >Hey board artist, can you do layouts, too? Thanks!

      without shill eyes.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm more bothered by "AND IT BETTER GOOD!"

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    source?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your moms.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Source?

      https://twitter.com/squigglevizion_/status/1575992499025326081/photo/1

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >23 years old
        >storyboarding "veteran"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, some people actually start working at 18. he'd have 5 years of experience by now.

          • 2 years ago
            Birchyfunbags

            But it ain't like 30 years. 5 ain't shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Uh oh.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is that Mr. Horse? OMG, is John finally back?

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait to see John and his moronic fans seethe like monkeys

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, gee.
    You hire schizophrenic women, you get a half assed show made by schizophrenic women.

    Who would have guessed?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      As if the original show wasn’t schizophrenic.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Show has a history of troubled production and unstability
    >Adult version bombs hard
    >Creator gets outed as a pedo
    Why even bother? After all the shit this show has gone through you'd imagine itd remian a radioactive IP.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The original show was successful enough to overcome most of its issues and Viacom is a greedy and ruthless company so.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't understand how R&S is expected to work in a modern-day setting. The whole reason it was a big hit was because it was a crazy, absurd, and very animated cartoon in an era where that was extremely rare and coming right off the coat tails of shit like Jem & the Holograms or Thundercats.

    But now it's 2022 and we've have, and still have, a shit ton of wacky, surreal cartoons with random and bizarre humor and a few of them are well-animated (I'm including online web series in this description as well). Not only that, but the show has garnered a pretty negative reputation since it's premiere up to now. And most people who are R&S fans had their interest dropped when they found out Bob Camp or John K wouldn't be a part of it.

    So who is this for? How is this reboot going to stand out from any other reboot? At least the Beavis & Butthead reboot is a safe bet because Mike Judge is on board and it's a pretty low-budget show to begin with. B&B fans are almost guaranteed to check it out. A new Invader ZIM movie with Jhonen Vasquez and all the original voices makes sense because it's loved by a cult of fans who would absolutely be on board if all the familiars came by-- and have been CRAVING for some new ZIM material for over a decade.

    I just don't know what sort of profit return they're hoping for with this reboot.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I would argue modern Spongebob is the spiritual successor of Ren and Stimpy. It has the same type of humor now.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that's true. Modern Spongebob is shitty Spongebob but it's an ok R&S having many of its artists in it.
        The only thing that bothers me is that the SB characters aren't really for the R&S antics.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >And it better good!
    Learn English, please. It should be "And it better BE good!".

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Stimpy be looking like

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hope that is just the storyboard artists style because if the reboot actually looks like this i'm gonna kms

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      better get ready

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is what it looks like.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        that's just stock art drawn before the reboot

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That’s an old promo piece image put on an employee name tag most likely created by someone in production. Guarantee it’s not how the show will look.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a bunch of black and white sketches
    Absolute perfection. Kino. Literally don't change a single thing (spoiler: I'm mad).

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Source?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder if that means they are gonna get Vincent Waller and the rest of the crew from SB back to work on the R&S reboot?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bob Camp was on it before he left over creative differences to work on the Patrick spinoff

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They should’ve gotten Carbunkle Cartoons back.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think Vincent at one point said he knew about the reboot, but was too busy with Spongebob projects to work on it. Not sure about the rest of the team on SB

      They should’ve gotten Carbunkle Cartoons back.

      I'm pretty sure at this point Carbunkle Cartoons, as a company, doesn't exist anymore, even though many of its members are still alive (like Bob Jaques)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Carbunkle has almost always existed as a pretty barebones studio afaik, specially if you consider them from the APC era onwards. It's mostly Bob and Kelly doing their western animation magic stuff outsourcing some of the work to PiP and Big Star.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are they able to make it look like this again?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They dont need to in order to impress most of the morons waching cartoons these days so why bother?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder if they are gonna take the zoomer artists from SB with them?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like a 90's Mr Warburton cartoon

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I tried...

    • 2 years ago
      Birchyfunbags

      Hi Annie Mae

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Great shot composition. Much better than what was in the board.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How is it better? Not only are all the characters cluttered in the frame and it's hard to even read what they're doing, but R&S rarely used those 3/4th camera angles. The show was extremely fond of sitcom angles.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    here's your reboot bro

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >And it better good

    They hired idiot writers for this.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do my eyes deceive me? A Ren and Stimpy thread without people screeching “RAPE APOLOGIST” and guy sperging up the place?

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How much longer until Guy invades this thread?

    • 2 years ago
      Birchyfunbags

      I'm surprised he aint been here yet.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I just checked out his DA, just as schizo as his rants on Cinemaphile.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are they getting Marc du Pontavice to be with their team or something as his and the Xilam cartoons (Oggy and the wienerroaches, Space Goofs, Ratz and Zig & Sharko) are/were practically like Ren & Stimpy themselves

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have that screenshot of Byrd saying that the reboot would inspire bullies to harass people who want to work on this?

    Any good chance that she's been the bully all along?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It amazes me how eager Cinemaphile is to go to bat for these israelite overworking practices. I don't think a single other board is this cucked. Maybe that's just because other anons actually participate in the things they discuss

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think a single other board is this cucked.
      Never been to Cinemaphile, huh? Boards based on consumerism often have no insight into what goes into what they consume or empathy for those who produce it.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >demand more animation
    >demand better animation
    >think wanting better working conditions and higher wage is entitled
    >don’t understand why doubling an artist’s workload is problematic
    >get mad about breaks between seasons
    >think people should work for free because passion
    >clap hands when years of a team of animators’ work is vaulted
    Why is /co like this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bitter, miserable crabs-in-a-bucket who can only consoom, never create. All boards have been ruined by them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're not here for modern garbage made by minorities working for peanuts.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're right, they're all moronic coombrains getting off to whatever the latest little girl character is.
        >inb4 "chad" reaction images going "yes"

    • 2 years ago
      guy

      You're whining about how garbage animators are treated. As far as I'm concerned, since their work is worth minimum wage, people on shows like Craig of the creek can be overworked as much as their bosses want because they are way overpaid for their cartooning ability. Be an actual good artist, then you can talk

      Bitter, miserable crabs-in-a-bucket who can only consoom, never create. All boards have been ruined by them.

      You're describing people who work on shows like Craig of the creek.

      You're right, they're all moronic coombrains getting off to whatever the latest little girl character is.
      >inb4 "chad" reaction images going "yes"

      I can see how long you've been absent from shilling on the board from how dated this is. Very few new characters become popular in the current years, one dude spams a dead end girl.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >people on shows like Craig of the creek can be overworked as much as their bosses want because they are way overpaid for their cartooning ability.

        I remember a time when people were embarrassed to be this moronic.

        • 2 years ago
          guy

          That's a real scam to act like anybody actually cares about what animation people "go through" outside of the State of California. No dude that's wrong.
          And besides y'all cheered on John and other spumco artists getting screwed over

          Yeah that's true. Modern Spongebob is shitty Spongebob but it's an ok R&S having many of its artists in it.
          The only thing that bothers me is that the SB characters aren't really for the R&S antics.

          Spongebob, Patrick and Squidward is just Ren and Stimpy with Stimpy split into two characters. I actually like how Patrick is more differentiated in the latest seasons since otherwise they were originally pretty close in a lot of scenes.

          You don't really think that you're just filtering your thoughts through what is acceptable to the animation community.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >It's ok to screw over the workers of a show if I personally think it sucks. The line is only crossed if I like it.
            There's no reason anyone should ever take you seriously. You either have to be trolling or have some sort of mental illness.

            • 2 years ago
              guy

              Ok Groomer. You're obviously used to talking to isolated teenagers.
              It's also an awfully bad decision to try to taunt me since I received a lot of abuse from people in the animation Community when I was a teenager and the accusations against John were used to anticipate my own story - the gerbil person I vividly recognize as one of the people responsible, and she told people to ignore a suicidal ren and Stimpy fan.
              Keep taking Ls, fool

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Accusing me of being a groomer because I called out your shit take.
                You must be projecting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hope John sees this bro

              • 2 years ago
                guy

                Funny you say that because hundreds of people most likely are convinced that I am John and harassed me on here after the fake accusations came out. How many Ls do you want to take for later

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                lmao you wish you were John, at least he was a decent artist

  32. 2 years ago
    Boco

    Looks good so far. Can’t wait.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So, is the reboot targeted for kids or adults? People are really going to be comparing it to APC if it’s the latter.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It'll also be comparable to the 2020 bullshit Animaniacs nuboot

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