A layout artist figures out the staging of each scene. A board artist might LOOSELY convey a background in a couple of panels and then choose to omit it if the background never changes. So for example, the scene with Ren in the bathtub would have him floating in a tub with a couple of squiggles in the back to convey that it's the spaceship in the background.
However, now storyboard artists are asked to get as many details of the background in the board as possible to the point where it's the exact composition you'll see in the final product and it's done so tightly that the background artists can use the boards as a reference point and trace over them for exact layout specifications.
NuRen and Stimpy really doesn't have an excuse, it should at least look as good as these Bob Camp boards (minus the last image which is a layout by Chris Reccardi I believe)
It's extra work that isn't part of the original board artists job and they aren't getting paid or being given extra time for that extra work. There are other job responsibilities that get saddled onto storyboard artists during a production when it's not part of their job description: clean-up, keyframes, sometimes even coloring panels or writing scenes entirely. If you want a detailed explanation on it, Toniko Pantoja does a good job explaining it and the term he uses is called "job creeping".
Producers skim money off the budget for themselves while gaslighting young artists to do more duties. It results in lower quality shows and artists burning out.
Boss fires someone and tells you to add their weekly duties to your workload and to still have it done by the end of the week. Your pay doesn’t change. You now have to work a ton more just so your boss can save some money.
>CARTOONS ARE SO MUCH MORE SHIT THAN THEY WERE IN THE 90'S
huh, i wonder why...
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because idiot spoiled brats thought that taking out 90K + student loans so they could go to over-priced scam art colleges just to sell their souls to a giant media corporation would give them a fulfilling career and a living wage in the year of our lord 2022.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Blaming literal teenagers for being brainwashed by Disney and Friends
Lmao, I hope cartoons remain terrible just to push you closer to suicide.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes! That's exactly what I'm doing. Being 18 doesn't excuse you from critical thinking, dingus.
I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons
I love cartoons. I hate predatory art colleges.
>supporting colleges scamming people
Mike Stoklasa would spit on your face
I'm not supporting colleges scamming people. I literally laid out my distaste of art colleges charging insane admissions and how they prey on spoiled brats who think the only way they can enjoy college is taking out massive loans. You can't read, try again sweetums.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> idiot spoiled brats
Dunno if you’re the same anon, but the post I was referencing seemed very much to disparage people who want to become artists over the shitty systems they work within.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I hope you commit suicide, too, with an attitude like that.
I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons
Some of us actually have taste in cartoons. But it's Cinemaphile and for every good discussion you have 100 shitty ones. What did you expect?
The threads that are the most fun end up being spats between empty-headed corporate bootlickers that beg for a job/beg to keep their job and claim to be animation fans while politics live rent free in the void they call their head, and people who strive for the days of classic animation and know they will never return in any form and should instead be appreciated and studied like a work of art.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons
2 years ago
Anonymous
>supporting colleges scamming people
Mike Stoklasa would spit on your face
Actually, in the case of a modern-day production, they tend to do some of the backgrounds BEFORE the storyboarding phase. In R&S's case, the board artists would make up environments for the background artists to create later. Like a random living room just for the sake of a scene of Ren and Stimpy interacting. But in this case, you can clearly see that this kitchen background is a rough drawing done by the background artist. It's using a different brush, it has a fly in the background symbolizing something for the animator to do late, etc. Board artists are usually asked to use existing backgrounds being done ahead of time which further limits what they're allowed to do in a scene. They can't invent, they MUST use assets.
Normally, for a production that plans to have an environment that a lot of people will be referencing, the BG or maybe concept artists will draw a loose overhead shot and maybe some thumbnails pass it around. The board artists then use this as reference. However, because this is modern-day and studios want to cut costs as much as possible, the "concept shot" is actually the FINAL shot that they plan to use in the episode. So this kitchen shot, for example, is probably going to appear and have the background be re-used at least six or seven more times throughout that episode.
Fricking hell, those storyboard panels look great. The last one must have been done on a bigger piece of paper though, the lines and detail aren't the same.
They make the storyboard panel into a screencap that overseas people can adhere to. With the assistance of a bg artist, of course. It’s why a lot of cartoons like Steven universe are off model. Storyboarders are expected to do that too on top of designing characters, props, animating, backgrounds, writing jokes and do sfx.
A layout artist figures out the staging of each scene. A board artist might LOOSELY convey a background in a couple of panels and then choose to omit it if the background never changes. So for example, the scene with Ren in the bathtub would have him floating in a tub with a couple of squiggles in the back to convey that it's the spaceship in the background.
However, now storyboard artists are asked to get as many details of the background in the board as possible to the point where it's the exact composition you'll see in the final product and it's done so tightly that the background artists can use the boards as a reference point and trace over them for exact layout specifications.
Man, I fricking love pencil drawings and pencil tests. Post some more if you have them.
>rough storyboard looks like a rough storyboard
Damn.... ren and simpysisters.... it's over.......
I think that's chicago party aunt from netflix
It's not how the board is drawn, of course a board is going to be rough, it's the character design. Who thought it was a good idea to give Ren Big Nate eyes?
I don't think they'll seriously go through with that
They have to know it'd look wrong.
Maybe they're struggling with how to adapt an artstyle designed for traditional animation to cheap digital stuff.
Stimpy has full eyes which proves that the eyes on Ren and Mr. Horse aren't shorthands. If they weren't supposed to have dot eyes they wouldn't draw them like that, it's not that fricking hard to draw eyes even for industry manchildren.
Just admit that you have no idea how the animation pipeline works. It doesn’t matter what you think people should do “because it’s not that hard”. It’s literally not the point of that specific job.
This is what it looks like after layout you moron. Each person in the pipeline has a job to do. Storyboarders draw a frickload and don’t need to make characters on model. It just wastes time. Layout artists do that,
>rough storyboard looks like a rough storyboard
Damn.... ren and simpysisters.... it's over.......
I think that's chicago party aunt from netflix
[...]
It's not how the board is drawn, of course a board is going to be rough, it's the character design. Who thought it was a good idea to give Ren Big Nate eyes?
Compare that to real Ren and Stimpy storyboarding
>Hey board artist, can you do layouts, too? Thanks!
>Show has a history of troubled production and unstability >Adult version bombs hard >Creator gets outed as a pedo
Why even bother? After all the shit this show has gone through you'd imagine itd remian a radioactive IP.
I just don't understand how R&S is expected to work in a modern-day setting. The whole reason it was a big hit was because it was a crazy, absurd, and very animated cartoon in an era where that was extremely rare and coming right off the coat tails of shit like Jem & the Holograms or Thundercats.
But now it's 2022 and we've have, and still have, a shit ton of wacky, surreal cartoons with random and bizarre humor and a few of them are well-animated (I'm including online web series in this description as well). Not only that, but the show has garnered a pretty negative reputation since it's premiere up to now. And most people who are R&S fans had their interest dropped when they found out Bob Camp or John K wouldn't be a part of it.
So who is this for? How is this reboot going to stand out from any other reboot? At least the Beavis & Butthead reboot is a safe bet because Mike Judge is on board and it's a pretty low-budget show to begin with. B&B fans are almost guaranteed to check it out. A new Invader ZIM movie with Jhonen Vasquez and all the original voices makes sense because it's loved by a cult of fans who would absolutely be on board if all the familiars came by-- and have been CRAVING for some new ZIM material for over a decade.
I just don't know what sort of profit return they're hoping for with this reboot.
Yeah that's true. Modern Spongebob is shitty Spongebob but it's an ok R&S having many of its artists in it.
The only thing that bothers me is that the SB characters aren't really for the R&S antics.
I think Vincent at one point said he knew about the reboot, but was too busy with Spongebob projects to work on it. Not sure about the rest of the team on SB
They should’ve gotten Carbunkle Cartoons back.
I'm pretty sure at this point Carbunkle Cartoons, as a company, doesn't exist anymore, even though many of its members are still alive (like Bob Jaques)
Carbunkle has almost always existed as a pretty barebones studio afaik, specially if you consider them from the APC era onwards. It's mostly Bob and Kelly doing their western animation magic stuff outsourcing some of the work to PiP and Big Star.
How is it better? Not only are all the characters cluttered in the frame and it's hard to even read what they're doing, but R&S rarely used those 3/4th camera angles. The show was extremely fond of sitcom angles.
Are they getting Marc du Pontavice to be with their team or something as his and the Xilam cartoons (Oggy and the wienerroaches, Space Goofs, Ratz and Zig & Sharko) are/were practically like Ren & Stimpy themselves
It amazes me how eager Cinemaphile is to go to bat for these israelite overworking practices. I don't think a single other board is this cucked. Maybe that's just because other anons actually participate in the things they discuss
>I don't think a single other board is this cucked.
Never been to Cinemaphile, huh? Boards based on consumerism often have no insight into what goes into what they consume or empathy for those who produce it.
>demand more animation >demand better animation >think wanting better working conditions and higher wage is entitled >don’t understand why doubling an artist’s workload is problematic >get mad about breaks between seasons >think people should work for free because passion >clap hands when years of a team of animators’ work is vaulted
Why is /co like this?
You're whining about how garbage animators are treated. As far as I'm concerned, since their work is worth minimum wage, people on shows like Craig of the creek can be overworked as much as their bosses want because they are way overpaid for their cartooning ability. Be an actual good artist, then you can talk
Bitter, miserable crabs-in-a-bucket who can only consoom, never create. All boards have been ruined by them.
You're describing people who work on shows like Craig of the creek.
You're right, they're all moronic coombrains getting off to whatever the latest little girl character is. >inb4 "chad" reaction images going "yes"
I can see how long you've been absent from shilling on the board from how dated this is. Very few new characters become popular in the current years, one dude spams a dead end girl.
That's a real scam to act like anybody actually cares about what animation people "go through" outside of the State of California. No dude that's wrong.
And besides y'all cheered on John and other spumco artists getting screwed over
Yeah that's true. Modern Spongebob is shitty Spongebob but it's an ok R&S having many of its artists in it.
The only thing that bothers me is that the SB characters aren't really for the R&S antics.
Spongebob, Patrick and Squidward is just Ren and Stimpy with Stimpy split into two characters. I actually like how Patrick is more differentiated in the latest seasons since otherwise they were originally pretty close in a lot of scenes.
You don't really think that you're just filtering your thoughts through what is acceptable to the animation community.
>It's ok to screw over the workers of a show if I personally think it sucks. The line is only crossed if I like it.
There's no reason anyone should ever take you seriously. You either have to be trolling or have some sort of mental illness.
Ok Groomer. You're obviously used to talking to isolated teenagers.
It's also an awfully bad decision to try to taunt me since I received a lot of abuse from people in the animation Community when I was a teenager and the accusations against John were used to anticipate my own story - the gerbil person I vividly recognize as one of the people responsible, and she told people to ignore a suicidal ren and Stimpy fan.
Keep taking Ls, fool
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Accusing me of being a groomer because I called out your shit take.
You must be projecting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hope John sees this bro
2 years ago
guy
Funny you say that because hundreds of people most likely are convinced that I am John and harassed me on here after the fake accusations came out. How many Ls do you want to take for later
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao you wish you were John, at least he was a decent artist
YO SPATULA IS BACK
>Hey board artist, can you do layouts, too? Thanks!
What exactly is a layout artist?
A layout artist figures out the staging of each scene. A board artist might LOOSELY convey a background in a couple of panels and then choose to omit it if the background never changes. So for example, the scene with Ren in the bathtub would have him floating in a tub with a couple of squiggles in the back to convey that it's the spaceship in the background.
However, now storyboard artists are asked to get as many details of the background in the board as possible to the point where it's the exact composition you'll see in the final product and it's done so tightly that the background artists can use the boards as a reference point and trace over them for exact layout specifications.
NuRen and Stimpy really doesn't have an excuse, it should at least look as good as these Bob Camp boards (minus the last image which is a layout by Chris Reccardi I believe)
The upcoming new R&S will have the same animation quality as of the likes of anything from either Seth MacFarlane, Louren Bouchard or Justin Roiland.
I dunno if it'll be that bad
Thank you anon.
That is an almost superfluously well put answer.
Why is them drawing backgrounds a bad thing?
It's extra work that isn't part of the original board artists job and they aren't getting paid or being given extra time for that extra work. There are other job responsibilities that get saddled onto storyboard artists during a production when it's not part of their job description: clean-up, keyframes, sometimes even coloring panels or writing scenes entirely. If you want a detailed explanation on it, Toniko Pantoja does a good job explaining it and the term he uses is called "job creeping".
Thanks, I'll watch it later.
Producers skim money off the budget for themselves while gaslighting young artists to do more duties. It results in lower quality shows and artists burning out.
Boss fires someone and tells you to add their weekly duties to your workload and to still have it done by the end of the week. Your pay doesn’t change. You now have to work a ton more just so your boss can save some money.
>why is putting more work on one person a bad thing
you moronic bro?
it's just a background
Fun fact: Despite current day board artists doing way more work than 90's board artists, the wages have not changed in twenty plus years.
I have seen Steven universes storyboards, they don't deserve to get paid at all
That's why they're forced to do everything. Execs see it as economical to make one person do a ton of shit and only get paid for a fraction of it.
> Waaah give me 90K a year for making doodles that look like what every middle schooler drew in their science notebooks waaaah.
>CARTOONS ARE SO MUCH MORE SHIT THAN THEY WERE IN THE 90'S
huh, i wonder why...
Because idiot spoiled brats thought that taking out 90K + student loans so they could go to over-priced scam art colleges just to sell their souls to a giant media corporation would give them a fulfilling career and a living wage in the year of our lord 2022.
>Blaming literal teenagers for being brainwashed by Disney and Friends
Lmao, I hope cartoons remain terrible just to push you closer to suicide.
Yes! That's exactly what I'm doing. Being 18 doesn't excuse you from critical thinking, dingus.
I love cartoons. I hate predatory art colleges.
I'm not supporting colleges scamming people. I literally laid out my distaste of art colleges charging insane admissions and how they prey on spoiled brats who think the only way they can enjoy college is taking out massive loans. You can't read, try again sweetums.
> idiot spoiled brats
Dunno if you’re the same anon, but the post I was referencing seemed very much to disparage people who want to become artists over the shitty systems they work within.
I hope you commit suicide, too, with an attitude like that.
Some of us actually have taste in cartoons. But it's Cinemaphile and for every good discussion you have 100 shitty ones. What did you expect?
The threads that are the most fun end up being spats between empty-headed corporate bootlickers that beg for a job/beg to keep their job and claim to be animation fans while politics live rent free in the void they call their head, and people who strive for the days of classic animation and know they will never return in any form and should instead be appreciated and studied like a work of art.
I thought people came here because they actually liked cartoons
>supporting colleges scamming people
Mike Stoklasa would spit on your face
Actually, in the case of a modern-day production, they tend to do some of the backgrounds BEFORE the storyboarding phase. In R&S's case, the board artists would make up environments for the background artists to create later. Like a random living room just for the sake of a scene of Ren and Stimpy interacting. But in this case, you can clearly see that this kitchen background is a rough drawing done by the background artist. It's using a different brush, it has a fly in the background symbolizing something for the animator to do late, etc. Board artists are usually asked to use existing backgrounds being done ahead of time which further limits what they're allowed to do in a scene. They can't invent, they MUST use assets.
Normally, for a production that plans to have an environment that a lot of people will be referencing, the BG or maybe concept artists will draw a loose overhead shot and maybe some thumbnails pass it around. The board artists then use this as reference. However, because this is modern-day and studios want to cut costs as much as possible, the "concept shot" is actually the FINAL shot that they plan to use in the episode. So this kitchen shot, for example, is probably going to appear and have the background be re-used at least six or seven more times throughout that episode.
Fricking hell, those storyboard panels look great. The last one must have been done on a bigger piece of paper though, the lines and detail aren't the same.
Still, that's quality.
The layout artist fits the rough storyboard into the backgrounds and makes the characters on model
They make the storyboard panel into a screencap that overseas people can adhere to. With the assistance of a bg artist, of course. It’s why a lot of cartoons like Steven universe are off model. Storyboarders are expected to do that too on top of designing characters, props, animating, backgrounds, writing jokes and do sfx.
Being a writer seems waaaaaay easier tbh.
Man, I fricking love pencil drawings and pencil tests. Post some more if you have them.
>chicago party skghjsjcnjsx
Also, it's a storyboard.
Although it would be nice if the drawings were better, yes.
>rough storyboard looks like a rough storyboard
Damn.... ren and simpysisters.... it's over.......
I think that's chicago party aunt from netflix
It's not how the board is drawn, of course a board is going to be rough, it's the character design. Who thought it was a good idea to give Ren Big Nate eyes?
I don't think they'll seriously go through with that
They have to know it'd look wrong.
Maybe they're struggling with how to adapt an artstyle designed for traditional animation to cheap digital stuff.
It's a rough storyboard moron, it's obviously not gonna look like that in the final product. You're literally just complaining about how it's drawn.
Stimpy has full eyes which proves that the eyes on Ren and Mr. Horse aren't shorthands. If they weren't supposed to have dot eyes they wouldn't draw them like that, it's not that fricking hard to draw eyes even for industry manchildren.
Just admit that you have no idea how the animation pipeline works. It doesn’t matter what you think people should do “because it’s not that hard”. It’s literally not the point of that specific job.
This is what it looks like after layout you moron. Each person in the pipeline has a job to do. Storyboarders draw a frickload and don’t need to make characters on model. It just wastes time. Layout artists do that,
This is the second time this image was posted and no one sent the link to the artist.
Layout artists don't exist in the American industry anymore. It got merged with storyboard ages ago.
That's fanmade dumbass
Cringe.
Compare that to real Ren and Stimpy storyboarding
without shill eyes.
I'm more bothered by "AND IT BETTER GOOD!"
source?
Your moms.
https://twitter.com/squigglevizion_/status/1575992499025326081/photo/1
>23 years old
>storyboarding "veteran"
yeah, some people actually start working at 18. he'd have 5 years of experience by now.
But it ain't like 30 years. 5 ain't shit.
Uh oh.
Is that Mr. Horse? OMG, is John finally back?
Can't wait to see John and his moronic fans seethe like monkeys
Wow, gee.
You hire schizophrenic women, you get a half assed show made by schizophrenic women.
Who would have guessed?
As if the original show wasn’t schizophrenic.
>Show has a history of troubled production and unstability
>Adult version bombs hard
>Creator gets outed as a pedo
Why even bother? After all the shit this show has gone through you'd imagine itd remian a radioactive IP.
The original show was successful enough to overcome most of its issues and Viacom is a greedy and ruthless company so.
I just don't understand how R&S is expected to work in a modern-day setting. The whole reason it was a big hit was because it was a crazy, absurd, and very animated cartoon in an era where that was extremely rare and coming right off the coat tails of shit like Jem & the Holograms or Thundercats.
But now it's 2022 and we've have, and still have, a shit ton of wacky, surreal cartoons with random and bizarre humor and a few of them are well-animated (I'm including online web series in this description as well). Not only that, but the show has garnered a pretty negative reputation since it's premiere up to now. And most people who are R&S fans had their interest dropped when they found out Bob Camp or John K wouldn't be a part of it.
So who is this for? How is this reboot going to stand out from any other reboot? At least the Beavis & Butthead reboot is a safe bet because Mike Judge is on board and it's a pretty low-budget show to begin with. B&B fans are almost guaranteed to check it out. A new Invader ZIM movie with Jhonen Vasquez and all the original voices makes sense because it's loved by a cult of fans who would absolutely be on board if all the familiars came by-- and have been CRAVING for some new ZIM material for over a decade.
I just don't know what sort of profit return they're hoping for with this reboot.
I would argue modern Spongebob is the spiritual successor of Ren and Stimpy. It has the same type of humor now.
Yeah that's true. Modern Spongebob is shitty Spongebob but it's an ok R&S having many of its artists in it.
The only thing that bothers me is that the SB characters aren't really for the R&S antics.
>And it better good!
Learn English, please. It should be "And it better BE good!".
Stimpy be looking like
I hope that is just the storyboard artists style because if the reboot actually looks like this i'm gonna kms
better get ready
This is what it looks like.
that's just stock art drawn before the reboot
That’s an old promo piece image put on an employee name tag most likely created by someone in production. Guarantee it’s not how the show will look.
>it's a bunch of black and white sketches
Absolute perfection. Kino. Literally don't change a single thing (spoiler: I'm mad).
Source?
Wonder if that means they are gonna get Vincent Waller and the rest of the crew from SB back to work on the R&S reboot?
Bob Camp was on it before he left over creative differences to work on the Patrick spinoff
They should’ve gotten Carbunkle Cartoons back.
I think Vincent at one point said he knew about the reboot, but was too busy with Spongebob projects to work on it. Not sure about the rest of the team on SB
I'm pretty sure at this point Carbunkle Cartoons, as a company, doesn't exist anymore, even though many of its members are still alive (like Bob Jaques)
Carbunkle has almost always existed as a pretty barebones studio afaik, specially if you consider them from the APC era onwards. It's mostly Bob and Kelly doing their western animation magic stuff outsourcing some of the work to PiP and Big Star.
Are they able to make it look like this again?
They dont need to in order to impress most of the morons waching cartoons these days so why bother?
Wonder if they are gonna take the zoomer artists from SB with them?
Looks like a 90's Mr Warburton cartoon
I tried...
Hi Annie Mae
Great shot composition. Much better than what was in the board.
How is it better? Not only are all the characters cluttered in the frame and it's hard to even read what they're doing, but R&S rarely used those 3/4th camera angles. The show was extremely fond of sitcom angles.
here's your reboot bro
>And it better good
They hired idiot writers for this.
Do my eyes deceive me? A Ren and Stimpy thread without people screeching “RAPE APOLOGIST” and guy sperging up the place?
How much longer until Guy invades this thread?
I'm surprised he aint been here yet.
I just checked out his DA, just as schizo as his rants on Cinemaphile.
Are they getting Marc du Pontavice to be with their team or something as his and the Xilam cartoons (Oggy and the wienerroaches, Space Goofs, Ratz and Zig & Sharko) are/were practically like Ren & Stimpy themselves
Does anyone have that screenshot of Byrd saying that the reboot would inspire bullies to harass people who want to work on this?
Any good chance that she's been the bully all along?
It amazes me how eager Cinemaphile is to go to bat for these israelite overworking practices. I don't think a single other board is this cucked. Maybe that's just because other anons actually participate in the things they discuss
>I don't think a single other board is this cucked.
Never been to Cinemaphile, huh? Boards based on consumerism often have no insight into what goes into what they consume or empathy for those who produce it.
>demand more animation
>demand better animation
>think wanting better working conditions and higher wage is entitled
>don’t understand why doubling an artist’s workload is problematic
>get mad about breaks between seasons
>think people should work for free because passion
>clap hands when years of a team of animators’ work is vaulted
Why is /co like this?
Bitter, miserable crabs-in-a-bucket who can only consoom, never create. All boards have been ruined by them.
Because they're not here for modern garbage made by minorities working for peanuts.
You're right, they're all moronic coombrains getting off to whatever the latest little girl character is.
>inb4 "chad" reaction images going "yes"
You're whining about how garbage animators are treated. As far as I'm concerned, since their work is worth minimum wage, people on shows like Craig of the creek can be overworked as much as their bosses want because they are way overpaid for their cartooning ability. Be an actual good artist, then you can talk
You're describing people who work on shows like Craig of the creek.
I can see how long you've been absent from shilling on the board from how dated this is. Very few new characters become popular in the current years, one dude spams a dead end girl.
>people on shows like Craig of the creek can be overworked as much as their bosses want because they are way overpaid for their cartooning ability.
I remember a time when people were embarrassed to be this moronic.
That's a real scam to act like anybody actually cares about what animation people "go through" outside of the State of California. No dude that's wrong.
And besides y'all cheered on John and other spumco artists getting screwed over
Spongebob, Patrick and Squidward is just Ren and Stimpy with Stimpy split into two characters. I actually like how Patrick is more differentiated in the latest seasons since otherwise they were originally pretty close in a lot of scenes.
You don't really think that you're just filtering your thoughts through what is acceptable to the animation community.
>It's ok to screw over the workers of a show if I personally think it sucks. The line is only crossed if I like it.
There's no reason anyone should ever take you seriously. You either have to be trolling or have some sort of mental illness.
Ok Groomer. You're obviously used to talking to isolated teenagers.
It's also an awfully bad decision to try to taunt me since I received a lot of abuse from people in the animation Community when I was a teenager and the accusations against John were used to anticipate my own story - the gerbil person I vividly recognize as one of the people responsible, and she told people to ignore a suicidal ren and Stimpy fan.
Keep taking Ls, fool
>Accusing me of being a groomer because I called out your shit take.
You must be projecting.
Hope John sees this bro
Funny you say that because hundreds of people most likely are convinced that I am John and harassed me on here after the fake accusations came out. How many Ls do you want to take for later
lmao you wish you were John, at least he was a decent artist
Looks good so far. Can’t wait.
So, is the reboot targeted for kids or adults? People are really going to be comparing it to APC if it’s the latter.
It'll also be comparable to the 2020 bullshit Animaniacs nuboot