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yeah you should read his book
Why is the Pacific war rarely mentioned? It was absolute hell holy frick, is it because it was a literal race war?
Same reason WW1 barely get any attention. There aren't many parts that weren't just a cyclone of PTSD rampaging island and leaving behind skull pyramids
Because the Japanese deny any wrongdoing and everyone else involved came out of the situation extremely racist towards Japanese
>Because the Japanese deny any wrongdoing
based
Stupid weeb.
The Japanese are in fact based for denying any wrongdoing as they can see what happened to Germany which accepted the blame; they're STILL paying out to this day and now there's talk in israeli circles about the "genetic trauma" of the holocaust being passed down to subsequent generations who weren't even born when those events happened, thus the payouts will be never ending.
germany doesnt pay very much to Israel or holocaust survivors in general. It's like maybe under a million these days. They pay far more in aid to africa
Nukes were literally the greatest atrocity of WW2, their tyranny perverts the world even today.
lmao Rami
Frick off Chang
The land battles of the pacific war are a giga meme. Oh no, a couple hundred marines died and maybe a couple thousand nips? Wowee zowee how interesting and important.
>meanwhile, on a real battlefield
>Lumping hundreds of kilometers into the same battle
Do Easternfront trannies really?
Frick off, burgerBlack folk, stop trying to make every single conflict about you.
Yes.
Shut up homosexual go run into a machine gun no one cares about your shitty slavic dead
Au contraire, no one cares about your shitty island battles.
Why are you here then? Again please frick off no one wants to hear about your slavic sub-human meme patriotic rape war
To laugh at seething ameriBlack folk of course. Why else would I come to Cinemaphile?
Are you a product of a German or Russian rape?
>stop trying to make every single conflict about you
>the thread is about the pacific theater
Lol you look like such an idiot
Russia were broke ass homies who had their entire war economy subsidized by the two biggest economies in the world at the time (British Empire and USA)
Got their shit pushed in by the Germans for 4 years anyways.
Had to wait until D-Day until they could actually advance, mostly just meekly bristling against token skeleton defending forces which were left by the Germans to mainly be a speed bump.
Only having their first only true major victorious battle against the enemy at the end of the war in Berlin.
Then they retroactively burned the records of just how much shit they got in help from the Anglos out of spite.
And defaulted on their lend lease debt afterwards.
So yes, Easternfront trannies do really be like that.
Bad bait
No one denies the eastern front was harsh, just that the pacific was also crazy as frick. Calm down moron
>throwing bodies at a meat grinder
>a real battlefield
>meatgrinder meme
IT WASN'T A MEATGRINDER BEACUASE.... BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T OKAY!?
>who among us would not love to throw bodies at a meat grinder?
>among us
>NO GIVE ME ATTENTION
babby moron
>mindlessly running into the enemy’s gunfire until they run out of bullets
I thought most civilized learned after ww1 but soviets still pride themselves on battlefield losses hence their glorious ukraine campaign
>battlefield losses
That's simply what happens when you fight an enemy who actually qualifies as a major power. Meanwhile the US took 4 years to defeat a country that was economically on par with Belgium lmoa
>Germany
>Never won a war
>Major power
Is this how burgers cope with their part of the war just not being very interesting now? Claiming that the Eastern Front wasn't actually a uge showdown between two massive militaries?
Honestly memes aside the pacific war is pretty interesting, you have the naval chess aspect as well also the Burma campaign in the most underrated of all time but you'll probably screech and say I'm wrong or something in potato vatnik speak
Is this how russia copes with being a dying shithole that women would rather marry fat boomers than dpend another day in that god forsaken hellhole. Maybe thats why russia invaded ukraine. Getting blown up by a javelin is far better outcome than dying from krokodile overdose
Big burger seethe as usual. No wonder you choose to seethe impotently on Cinemaphile though, can't do anything against Dashaun and Juan raping all your female family members
Are you a product of a German or Soviet rape?
Keep telling yourself that. My town is 85 percent white with mexicans and asians mixed in and theyre all pretty chill. But you wouldnt know since your some irrelevant 3rd worlder defending a country who made your shithole the way it is today
We're getting Eastern front 2 right now and it's being treated as a sideshow to some clown's divorce trial.
hey now, they defeated denmark, austria and france. I know thats par for the course in europe but still
This
pottery
as a percent of the number engaged the pacific battles had high casualty rates
most of the pacific battles were fought on extraordinarily tiny pieces of island, more death per meter than the eastern front.
Because they can't pretend israelites died in the pacific
Because it is not Europe
>rarely mentioned?
1 billion chinks regularly seethe about it. It's like with israelites and holocaust.
>1 billion chinks regularly seethe about it
Why would chinks seethe about the Pacific War? America literally stopped the Japanese from squashing the chink menace once and for all
They cope about knowing that without our help, the Elevens would've conquered/exterminated them. They seethe about having to ask us for help. In fact, the chicoms have been altering history by saying that they won on their own. Because they're so fricking strong.
t. Chang
Really? That's hilarious, fricking chankoros just can't stop being pathetic
But the war in china was a stalemate and the japanese would have had to pull out due to diminishing resources. The whole reason they attacked america was to ensure control over SEA so they could get resources to finish the war in china.
So the only thing the chinese really need to be thankful for is the US not helping Japan
The truly funny part is the chicoms didn't even fight the Japanese. But hey, glory to Mao and CCP or whatever lmao.
Doesn't matter.
Chinks died so clearly everyone else is at fault and must pay up. As I said it's like their holocaust.
As other anons have mentioned, it's because israelites control academia and media and want all of the attention focused on muh Shoah.
>is it because it was a literal race war?
That plus neither side was particularly righteous in how they conducted themselves. It's kind of hard to frame yourself as heroic in the face of a barbaric opponent when you yourself were also killing POWs in cold blood and making trophies out of their bones.
wrong, japanese were committing war crimes left and right and then the usa said frick it we'll show you how savagery is really done
>the emperor had become offended that the Japanese were being treated as barbarians and thus the barbarian emperor of the barbarian empire commited a barbarous act and raised his barbarian navy to commit barbarities against the barbarians age old enemy
God I want him to make more history videos
Neptune’s Inferno is extremely good.
>nonstop nighttime naval fights
>attacks on payleloo against dug in marines
>barely hold it together
>war at this point is still a coinflip on who would win
>Why is the Pacific war rarely mentioned
Because for fifty years the Nips were backed 110% by the US and were the US proxy in Asia and it was only because they decided they didn't need the US telling them what to do that the US started the war with Japan by cutting off their oil supply which provoked Pearl Harbor.
wahhhhhhh the US stopped selling oil to me cause he thinks I’m a warmonger wahhhhh all I did was go to war with all of east Asia wahhhhhh I’m gonna show him by attacking him wahhhhhhh I’m peaceful wahhhhhh
Jerk off to some more Jav or hentai ya weeb
It is, you just don’t read.
the nuke is kind of the highlight
that and Rod Serling's combat buddy who liked to tell stories with an ironic twist getting a supply drop with a malfunctioning chute to the head just as he was reaching the twist in one of his stories. This inspired The Twilight Zone
because of the war crime USA commited by dropping 2 nukes when they didnt need to. now we have to deal with weird jap dudes because their ancestor got microwaved with radioactive fallout.
>now we have to deal with weird jap dudes
Ah yes, japanese people, the most troublesome minority in the USA right now
>Because the Japanese deny any wrongdoing
Why would they want to admit wrong doing? Look at the absolute fricking state of european nations who "admit wrong doing" aka paying reparations to fricking anyone who wants it and flooding the country with immigrants]
>Ah yes, japanese people, the most troublesome minority in the USA right now
i didnt say US. japan should be nuked again, but this time wiped off the globe.
>Because the Japanese deny any wrongdoing
huh?
>rarely mentioned
Americans never shut the frick up about it. It's the only real war you ever fought and even then it was heavily one-sided
Because the Chinese dont run the media to make movies about how bad the suffered and how just the war was.
Yeah. I had four great uncles that fought in the Pacific theater. Two were at Okinawa. Kinda fricked em up. My grandpa was also stationed there at Kadena airbase in the 1950s and even though it was like a decade after the battle he said you could still see the skeletons of the Okinawan civilians (mothers and children mostly) strewn about the cliffs from when IJA garrison basically gaslit them into committing mass suicide to "avoid rape and torture." Gnarly shit.
>Why is the Pacific war rarely mentioned?
I wouldn't say it's "rarely" mentioned, but it def gets less attention than the European theater for ~~*obvious reasons*~~.
Which is too bad because the Pacific war is hands down the most kino theater of WW2 and a strong contender for most kino conflict ever (see pic related)
the good guys won, it wasn't like in Europe.
Ironically Burma is mentioned so infrequently compared to the Pacific, odd for a conflict that involved 1.5 combatants at any one time, you don't even seem to know it happened.
Americans still seem to think they were the only people that defeated the Japanese.
dude the US had heavy involvement in Burma actually. One of my four great uncles i mentioned previously actually fought in Burma (he was pre-war US Army infantry). Served there the whole war i think.
We also did most of the flying, bombing, and aerial re-supplying operations for that area as well.
>a conflict that involved 1.5 combatants at any one time
What, like a normal person fighting a midget?
Really good episode in World at War about it if you didnt know.
'Whirlwind'
Notice how all the replies to this post talking about how often the pacific war is mentioned don't provide any evidence. They just say "Well I...." or "You're just stupid". That's not proof as to how prevalent discussion or media about the pacific war is. That's just what you're own personal experience. How many movies are there about the war in Europe? How many about the war in the Pacific? The point I'm making is not that there is a disparity in those numbers, but that the previous posters don't know or care about any empirical evidence that would make a more irrefutable point.
not convenient atm
The Japanese didn't genocide israelites and Vietnam was more recent.
My grandpa was a POW after he was shot down for two years and survived on rotten apples and water from puddles as his friends died around him. He hated asiatics so goddamn much
>no israelite victims
>no nazi bad guys
you figure it out
Communists support POC Japanese Empire over white America.
This is the real answer. The pacific war was a horrible slog of vicious island hopping battles.
No rescuing towns and liberating people from the axis, no complex tank battles, no handing out candy bars to kids. You go to an island, you get in a close range fight with the japanese, they fight to the death and booby trap their wounded. Turns out they killed all the island residents before you showed up and poisoned the water supply. Rinse and repeat.
Can't really make a good movie out of that. Especially sense it naturally ends with the (questionably necessary) use of nukes.
He wrote the book for his family, so he softened it up a bit too.
>The part where they attempt to pick up the Marine and his whole body comes apart and guts spill fricking everywhere
>That one marine messing around with his weapon with his buddy and didn't know it was loaded so he shot his best friend in the face
There are bits here and there, excerpts of gore and musings of the nature of violence in between parts that are written like "snafu grinned and said "well sledge we'll get them dang Japs! Sarge wants us to take this dog gon hill and we'll take it dag nabbit!" and such like.
Personally I want Manila to be showcased. The Japanese did a Nanking style massacre of the city prior and we get to see house to house fighting between the US and Japan which was pretty rare as battles that are etched in osmosis are battles over little strips of land out in the middle of nowhere. Nobody cares about Manila or New Guinea or Burma with Bill Slim and what the frick is China?
>Personally I want Manila to be showcased
it's a crime no one has made a Battle of Manila film complete with the penultimate showdown between the IJA and US Army that took place in the baseball stadium.
Idk does slaughtering school children rushing beaches with bamboo spears sound kinda bad?
Technically this is Cinemaphile but WaW was on point
I always found it odd that a video game and a mini series came out at roughly the same time that both featured pretty much the same beach landing scene on Peleliu. Usually the movies/series come first before the games rip it off like with SPR/BoB and Medal of Honor.
>be native Okinawan
>be told for centuries that your laguage isn't a language; it's just an accent of Japanese
>Burgers invade
>Japs murder anybody speaking Okinawan because they can't understand it, so they're clearly American spies
>then they tell you to have a nice day because the Americans are going to oppress and murder you
>supposed to feel bad that Nippon got nuked twice
Based Japan.
I feel bad for the innocent people in this. End of the day though, those people would have fought tooth and nail so they got nuked. Ez pz
friendly reminder that japan surrendered because of the soviet invasion of manchuria and how it was now a complete impossibility to come to a negotiated peace with a neutral soviet help, and not because of the nuclear bombs
Source?
His ass.
japanese high command meetings from 1943 onwards pretty much only talked about how to come to a negotiated peace because they absolutely knew the war was lost from a military perspective. their main goal now was to get favourable terms by playing the soviets and western allies off eachother and keep some of their empire in the pacific.
it was believed that the soviets would prefer a neutral but intact japan to keep american ambitions in asia in check in the dawning cold war
Which is strange because there was no reason to believe the USSR wouldn’t start in on the Japanese once Europe was settled.
It was more of them concocting a scenario in which they get to keep part of the empire than using any concrete evidence
>Source?
Vatnik delusions and the perpetual shame of knowing that if not for American Lend-Lease aid, the Soviets would have signed a cease fire with the Nazis.
They surrendered because MacArthur finally agreed to spare the Emperor in his unconditional surrender demand. Likely due to the progress of the Russians and the fact that we didn't have another bomb ready yet.
Why the FRICK did they not want to surrender after the Tokyo fire bombing and nukes? Seriously why?
tokio fire bombing happened 6 months before the official end of the war.
the reason they didnt surrender is because it changed nothing in their overall position, they could take hundreds of thousands of casualties when their entire empire and way of life was on the line and the possibility to come to a negotiated peace via a soviet support was still on the table
Shattered pearl policy. Every Japanese person was expected to sacrifice their lives to defend the country. Also, unconditional surrender included removing the Emperor from power and you must understand they literally believed he was a living god.
You are beyond stupid and prone to propganda if you think they would’ve actually done that. The Japanese would’ve revolted and killed the emperor themselves If it came to that.
the emperor in japan isnt some kind or european royalty or revered person, he's literally part of a mythical dynasty that supposed to stretch back thousands of years and center piece of japanese religion and culture. its a lot of brainwashing but it would be literally worse than killing the pope for them.
I'm not arguing that they wouldve all fought to the death, but killing their own emperor is absolutely out of the question
You're out of your fricking mind.
>and you must understand they literally believed he was a living god.
But how comes literally every army and navy general treated him like dog shit?
Because they weren't poor peasants and knew better? lol
>they literally believed he was a living god
Yet he got btfo. Asians are so crazy.
Friendly reminder your a gayget. Manchuria soviet campaign was a meme. The nuke allowed the emperor to save face in surrendering because it was unwinnable. Soviets tried to lay claim to half of japan but macarthur told them to pound potatoes
the nuclear attacks changed nothing, they were already getting their cities firebombed every day.
the thing that changed and made them give up completely was the loss of a soviet wildcard for a negotiated peace, unconditional surrender was now guaranteed to happen
The nuclear attacks completely changed everything. The second one was a message to the ussr. Our only mistake in ww2 was not listening to patton and marching with the german army to Stalingrad and pushing those moronic vodka monkeys back to siberia where they belong
>100.000 more deaths for a country that has already suffered millions changes everything because... IT JUST DOES, OKAY??!!
The fact one bomb could wipe out a city was change moron. I mean i loved russias strategy in ww2 dont get me wrong. 20 million dead russians is a great outcome to any war
this post is correct
Pop history meme.
Actually read some primary sources
Russiaboos, you should know pointing out how Russia didn't enter the war in the east until the very last second is NOT helping your case. Germany and the United States are the only two powers I can respect because they both went all in on a two front war, and they both had to deal with faithless "allies" (Japan, USSR) who were too weak / cowardly to give them any help with more than one foe at a time.
>United States are the only two powers I can respect because they both went all in on a two front war,
>tranime face
The Japanese war cabinet (who actually were running the war not Hirohito) required a unanimous vote among the members in order to force surrender. At no point during the war did the jap generals/admirals/govt officials who had voting power come even remotely close to forming a majority vote in favor of surrender. The closest the cabinet ever came to considering surrender was right after the first a-bomb was dropped on Hiroshima when the group was deadlocked roughly 50/50. Seriously, ever after Hiroshima HALF of the dudes in charge were absolutely determined to keep prosecuting they war and even threatened a coup to do so if they didn't get their way. They were legitimately fricking insane.
It was only after Nagasaki that Hirohito, who up until then had been content to let the generals/admirals run things, finally grasped the reality of the situation stepped in and basically said "frick this i'm pulling divine rank on you crazy Black folk and ending this shit before we all die"
>it's another burger pretends that the soviets didn't do all of the heavy lifting episode
xd lmao
Soviets didnt do shit in pacific. Wuit trying to claim the soviets as some savior when they were just as bad as the nazis. Just cuz their insane leader threw them into thw fire and killed anyone who retreated they think they are allowed to say they saved the world when in reality the world would of been better off if hitler wiped them out
all they did was hop on the bandwagon after germany fell and wound up the IJA forces still stationed in manchuria, which isn't nothing, but still largely irrelevant in the greater calculus of the Pacific war because they had no navy to speak of so there was never gonna be some Soviet invasion of the japanese main islands that would have preempted Operation Olympic/Coronet.
And of course, while plenty of nations were great bullet sponges for the japs and made significant contributions to resisting/halting/slowing down Japan's initial expansion, it was really only the US that was gonna be the one capable of actually pushing them back and reversing their gains.
It was the beginning of americas naval dominance
So are these okinawans just brown tanned japanese people or brown tanned chinese people
They're related to the Yamato, their language is related to Japanese, but it's like English and Dutch.
Okinawans were mass raped by US soldiers the Nips were right. Even today opposition to US Army bases is highest in Okinawa because they actually have to deal with them
Raped, yes. Mass rapped? No. Were talking about ww2 here. It may be cold but calling a few rapes here and there MASS RAPE, is a disservice to the actual mass rapes that occurred in eastern Europe by both the Russians and Germans, and Especially in china by the Japanese
2 million rapes isnt a few here and there and anyone slightly educated wonder why everyone preferred DUH NAZI occupation over the mutts and mongols
lmao no way
to be fair there was some nasty stuff done by some americans after we occupied it. the okinawans hate everyone and I don't really blame them.
It was a freaking century ago. Touch grass
It was worse.
The Japanese and the Russians were the two biggest monsters of ww2. Germany did nothing wrong and despite fighting for pure evil America and England didn’t do too many war crimes, although they both did more then Germany
hitler was a pussy for not going through with the holocaust. he talked about it for a decade before getting elected, and then he just doesnt do it, what a whimp
No he didn’t. He talked about sending them to Israel or madigasicar and he tried his best to do it, but yeah he was way too nice to them and should’ve did the holocaust.
Whew, lad
Even if you pretend you don't believe in the Holocaust, Germany still raped the shit out of everybody in eastern Europe
You got a little out of line yourself.
yes , it was this battle that made the Navy reconsider Operation Downfall
>own airforce drops propoganda leaflets telling you to all harajuku
nani the frick lol
>Just go and clear them out of the caves bro
The caves:
Yeah frick that
>Chuck some nades in there instead
Based
nades? dude, throw gas canisters. then again, i think after ww1 didnt we outlaw mustard gas as an inhumane of warfare? i know frickall about our war history, its kinda sad.
There is a reason there is so much footage of flamethrowers being used in the pacific. If you burn all the oxygen up in the caves they suffocate.
all the pacific islands were that bad. there was more hatred built up by then though because they'd been through several campaigns.
The entire Pacific theatre of World War II was basically just a competition to see which side could outdo the atrocities committed by the other.
We used a lot more fire against the Japs.
>Treated the Emperor like a god
>Generals tells him to frick off at every opportunity 1945
Medieval Euros revered the Pope, nobles cheated his decree whenever they can.
I miss him bros. He knew we had to frick China in the ass before anyone else knew. We failed him
>Patton knew about the Soviets.
>MacArthur knew about the Chinese.
>We didn't listen
>Let them both get nukes
>beaten by japan in the phillipines
>beaten by china in korea
>won a great victory over homeless vets in dc
thank god he saved hirohito though
Whats with people wearing their trousers right under their nipples back in the day?
in a time not so long ago, men actually had waists. and believe it or not, wearing pants at the narrowest part of your torso makes a lot of sense for multiple reasons
>Mfw someone says Okinawa and you think of the land battle
>Meanwhile
Bros....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himeyuri_students
WTF Japan
>sending foids to get massacred
Hory basedo!
Okinawa was also the only battle of WW2 where the commanding generals on both sides (Ushijima and Smith) got killed.
correction sorry the US general killed was Buckner not Smith
mutts get mad when you remind them they never fought a real war
Reminder, this is the (most likley really fat) troll who posts anti-American troll posts, as an American, in America.
Usually self loathing like this is a israeli trait, so I'll let you connect the dots...
serbBlack folk and pooinloos are crying about the US again. it must be thursday.
Any kino pacific pictures? Especially of japs I don't see them often
Letters from Iwo Jima is what you're looking for
For me, it's Tora! Tora! Tora!
Japs had tanks? I thought they put all their points into planes and ships.
>Japs had tanks?
Tankettes
They had actual tanks as well. Shitty ones, but they still had them.
Yeah, like 5 of them
900+ of this type alone. Learn your shit.
They did their job pretty well early on in the war. The first tank on tank combat America saw was their Sturats falling victim to better Japanese tanks and Japanese armor did very well on the road to Singapore. However, Japan's industrial deficiencies and lack of good doctrine and planning meant that they were well out of date by the end of 1942. They had a handful of designs intended to go toe to toe with Shermans bu they were all in the home islands
There's only 1 WORKING Jap tank left over from the war in the world and it's in a UK Tank museum
And i think there are less than 5 A6M Zeroes still in existence, only 1 of which is actually flyable.
Yes, it's the Type 95 Ha-Go light tank.
They did put all their steel to battleships and carriers but they still had 5 thousand small tanks, mostly to fight the chinks because they had 0 kek
Fires on the Plain
The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On
I have over 1000 WW2 /hr/ pictures, before it became coomer-central by 2014 because moot banned waifuposting on Cinemaphile by 2012 and all the newbie bane homosexuals ruined everything more in 2013.
Do you have a link to an album?
>View of the beach of Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, Gilbert Islands, after the U.S. invasion in November 1943. Tarawa was attacked from 20 to 23 November 1943, the U.S. Marine Corps sustained 990 Marines killed and a further 2,296 wounded. The Japanese lost 4,713 men. Note the men sitting on the disabled M4 Sherman tank.
no, its all on my PC, years of collecting /hr/ before it went coomer central
also, Cinemaphile HISTORY FACT: before 2014, Cinemaphile still allowed EXIF data on images, so you could dox and also still have cool EXIF data for shit all the time, including metadata comments, time taken, all digital camera settings etc
frick moot for getting rid of that, because of the 2014 fappening leaks
>An allied correspondent stands in the rubble of the shell of a building that once was a movie theater in Hiroshima, Japan, on Sept. 8, 1945 after the first nuclear weapon ever used in warfare was dropped by the U.S. on Aug. 6, 1945 to hasten Japan's surrender. Estimates vary, but about 140,000 people are believed to have died in the nuclear blast.
>Lt. Alexander Bonnyman (4th from right) of the 2d Battalion Shore Party, 8th Marines, 2d Marine Division and his assault party storming a Japanese stronghold during the Battle Of Tarawa. Bonnyman died the following day and received the Medal of Honor posthumously. Betio, Tarawa. Gilbert Islands, November 1 1943.
frickin' nice, i got a good amount of images also from that database too
>American troops of Troop E, 7th Cavalry Regiment, advance towards San Jose on Leyte Island, Philippine Islands. 20 October 1944.
I have a bunch of personal photos somewhere that one of my great uncles took when he was over there. He got some neat photos when his division (US Army 24th ID) was doing their jungle training in Australia and even a few during his time fighting in New Guinea. I've been meaning to compile them and post them on /k/ but i havent gotten around to it unfortunately.
my grandad joined the uk navy said frick this deserted, then sold stolen wares in london god he was based
>my granddad was a coward homosexual deserter thief
That’s not really anything to brag about. Wait, do you live in a traveller? That could explain it.
dying in proxy wars god anon your a homosexual, I just said london and you go on about travellers your a dumb homosexual, yeah that explains it
Spoken like gyppo.
My grandfather was a medic on the islands and refused to talk about what he had seen.
Mine was an engineer in the pacific. The only story I have is at some point he took over a machine gun because the dude manning it was killed in front of him.
mine had a string of jap teeth that he kept for decades, he was a crazy old guy.
Incredibly based
Based
>ywn mail a jap skull home to your sweetheart
>it aint like the pictures back home ill tell ya
My grandpa was island hopping and enjoying his air superiority as a grunt back in the Pacific Theater.
Sometimes the Japanese shot down fighters or bombers. The lucky ones drifted off and into the sea or near the beaches, held by my grandpas buds. The unlucky ones found themselves falling right into the hands of the Japanese.
The Japanese would take them to the front lines, the trenches closest to the enemy, lash the captive to a tree, cut his belly open, and wind his intestines out slowly on a spool as he screamed through the night. He said they heard the screams every few nights and on more than one occasion a soldier defied orders to silence the cries by shooting the captive. The Japanese just made sure to do it out of sight after that point.
They found the evidence when they took the Japanese defenses.
My grandfather didn't take a single Japanese prisoner.
Stopping brutality requires brutality.
I know you're not that's why I'm asking, was your grandmother raped by a german or a mongol soviet?
Inconceivable to a burgerBlack person like you, isn't it? That someone may not be a product of rape at all. Of course, you all get raped at birth by Schlomo anyway...
Cope Tyrone
>Slav
>Not a product of rape
Cope Black person
>Black person!Black person!Black person!
I think we broke em boys
>hurr hurr slava ukraini oink oink
Reddit is down the hall, homosexual
And ukraine is your down fall gayget. Enjoy selling your weakest child as meat vlad.
>t-two more weeks, Russia will surely surrender
okay lol
>just two days guys
>trust the plan
>we never wanted kiev anyway
>better not join nato finland and sweden
>america better stay out of it or else, oh youve been helping killing are generals oh well
The coping of vlads here has been one of the most eye opening experiences ive ever witnessed
Cope vlad. Ive enoyed watching your countrymen burn alive in tanks the past couple months. I make the missiles that have been helping the world rid itself of russian scum
Based. Are you guys increasing production? I've always wanted to work in the defense sector.
Yes. Altho i recently switched postions to the jet program because i was on javelin too long but yes we worken overtime. Defense is great because it never slows down.
Hes furrowing his caveman like brow trying conjure up another Black person rape comment
>daily reminder there were more communist israelites in the Manhattan Project than in the Soviet Politburo
>Jewnited States had more israelites than all of Eastern Europe combined
In other news, water is still wet
>daily reminder that a group of fifteen thousand people has more of X in absolute numbers than a group of fifteen people
In combat you just kind of do it. I mean I'm no war hero, I just rode around and did a lot of route clearance as an Engineer. I got blown up, a friend stepped on a land mine, and another friend died when he got blown up, but yet I still just rode around looking for IEDs. I could die at any second but I just stopped caring about halfway into my first deployment. My second deployment sucked, like having to go to work when you don't want to suck but it was actually fun and no one died in my company.
Anyway, long gay story but I'm not sure how different my experience was from the WW2 vets in terms of emotions and feelings. They might have had it easier as the death and killing were closer and more frequent. Once you consider yourself a dead man walking you can find a lot of meaning in what you're doing. A meaning that transcends good and evil.
>find a lot of meaning in what you're doing. A meaning that transcends good and evil.
And how do you cope with this "meaning" once you survive the tour and realize you're actually not a dead man walking but someone who will die of old age?
I think you transition from one source of meaning to another. How well you do this, or if you even can determines how well adjusted you become to civilian life.
To me there is a base level of meaning contained in the world, and that's suffering. It's at the forefront in war and I think it was a lot more prevalent in the old days.
>How well you do this, or if you even can determines how well adjusted you become to civilian life.
There's no program for vets to help adapt?
>its another engineer pretends they were in combat episode
It's cute when the grunts start getting their shit pushed in and immediately scream for artillery/CAS/engineers/CASEVAC...
One of those things is not like the other
>Still a Black person though
But I'm not a burger
We know vlad…. We know
Sauce?
It was perfectly understandable why Japan would finally strike back against decades of ABCD denigration. Japan was villainized and punished for pursuing their own overseas ambitions, while every western power hypocritically considered Asia their own.
Apparently it's America for Americans, Europe for Europeans, and Asia for everybody!
I love ridiculous Japanese propaganda.
Yup, that's how imperialism works. Everything that's mine is mine and everything that's yours is also mine.
so what you're saying is "thread on everyone except for me?"
ok
nah bro it was pretty comfy
Jews don't like the memory of ww2 being about anything but them
It was unrionically far worse than portrayed in the TV show, the first hand accounts are absolutely harrowing
Worse. I've read a lot of first hand accounts of the battles, and it was a bloodbath.
My great uncle fought there, and lost his brother there, in the same battle. To his dying day, if you asked him about it, he'd just shake his head sadly and look at the floor. All we know is what my uncle dug up through requesting both of their military records. He was awarded several medals in the Pacific War, and nobody knows what he did for them, or what he did with them when he returned home. My great aunt said he burned everything he brought back the week he was home, and never spoke about the war.
Frick man. My step dad was in 'nam and did the same thing.
Christ.. Did he ever tell you stories?
>Mfw imagining all the stories we've lost to time because they just don't want to talk
Must have been hell. But even if they did speak, no one would actually take it on board and change their behaviour, war is hell.
The dan Carlin podcast series on the Pacific war is really good for first hand details of the sheer horror in that war,
Not him but my brother talked to a Vietnam veteran who told him about some 20-year-old Mormon newlywed who was blown in half by a landmine as soon as he stepped off the helicopter. He also said most of the time they were shooting at bushes and not knowing if they hit anybody or not. My dad also talked to a French Canadian veteran of WWII who admitted to forcing German POWs to dig a trench and then tossing willy pete bombs on them.
Only thing he ever told me about were his burns he got during an ambush and how he had to lay down automatic fire until the gun overheated. He definitely killed people and saw friends die.
Not those anons but my grandfather was very open and honest about telling me what happened and what he did. He said that it was more important to truthfully tell what happened and not omit or dissemble or remain silent so that we would remember and remember what it cost. He fought in the Second Sino-Soviet War and in the Chinese Civil War before the mainland and wound up in the states because he had taught himself english during his time in the army.
>Christ.. Did he ever tell you stories?
No. Like I posted, he never spoke about it, he'd just shake his head sady.
When my friend was a little guy his grandpa let him try on a jap officer's hat he'd kept as a souvenir. The cap fit my friend perfectly, and his grandpa said "they had small heads" and laughed and laughed and laughed.
I read that small-heads bit in Cotton Hill's voice in my head.
Cotton meeting Kahn was the best scene in the entire show
My great grandfather landed on Iwo Jima and had his ship hit by a kamikaze. Never talked about anything, those are the only two details of his experiences in the Pacific I know about.
Same. My uncle fought in ‘Nam and to this day he fricking hates American people
Nice
I think a lot of people's fathers did that, after WWII.
many such cases
my favorite are stories of people whose feet are blown off, but their adrenaline is so high that they keep running.
W-What?
One documentary had a guy with his shins "blowed off by a Japanman's machine gun.” He was so pumped with adrenaline he grabbed his feet and walked back. The surgeons were able to reattach his feet to his knees.
Or when huge fricking explosions blow people's eyes out. It happens a lot but never gets talked about.
I was an artillery officer and I'd always laugh at how the media portrays the shells exploding three feet next to soldiers and everyone keeps running.
Thank you for your shelling
My pleasure.
My grampa once told me a story about a flight deck crewman who accidentally ran head first into a running propeller. Said his headless corpse took four extra strides before it fell over.
My ROTC instructor told me about a snapped cable that cut a dude in half. Flight decks sound way too intense for me.
>mountains of movies, tv shows, and books about the pacific
you could make even more if you weren't a low IQ welfare queen
He's probably just European. They unironically don't know WW2 was a world wide war.
Hmm.
This who the frick thinks it's rarely mentioned?
It is true that it's viewed somewhat secondary to the european theatre (outside of asia anyway) but that was even the case in the war itself. The pacific was the secondary effort for the allied powers due to british/soviet demands
Those stories of recruits finally getting to grips with modern war it will ALWAYS stick with me about how everyone says how disgusting and messy it is, body parts everywhere etc
it's p much fake news yeah, Cinemaphile's newest shit is to make shit up in order to get offended about it.
idk where this is coming from I grew up in NYC of all places and we focused hugely on the pacific and even visited a iwo jima memorial (but never went to a holocaust museum or etc)
The Pacific Theatre was fricked. I only have war stories from my great great grandpa passed down by my grandfather’s memories, but he served on the Western Front in WW1.
>Highly skilled sniper, one of the first professionals of the Leaf Army
>Would hunt German officers for sport, laughed about it later in life
>Nearly drowned in a barrel of preserves during an escape attempt from a German patrol
>Chest entirely covered in blue ink tattoos he received in India with the British army
>Gassed at Third Ypres (Paaschendale), reportedly was the only battle he refused to talk about regarding the war
>Tried re-enlisting in WW2 in his 60s to kill more Germans
Was pretty based tbh
Your grandpa was a lying homosexual and he’s burning in hell for it.
Sorry Hans, we have his medals, papers, and postcards.
Tattoos
Some of his medals
>westerners get gay pride medals even back then
lmao
Blessed tats
I very much doubt the veracity of 100 year old Chinese whispers between grandpas.
based
Based Hardcore Grandpa.
>be me riding with grandpa to get pecans for pies in 1985
>car cuts him off
>he hollers out of nowhere about how the nips had it coming and he should have fought slants instead of dumbass germans because that woman looks like a Jap, and everybody knows Japs can't drive for shit
>me- "Damn, grandpa!"
>grandpa- "Them slants had it coming. We didn't hate Herman near as bad as those damned Japs."
>me wondering where the hell this came from all the sudden
>grandpa- "But piss on the reds too. We should'a wiped them out when we had the chance. Patton was right. Did you know I got to meet him? We wouldn't have fought over israelites had we known. Nobody cared about that."
>proceeds to tell me about driving over the top of dead germans & horses for 3 days straight leaving Omaha, on top of Sherman with 10 other people, towing his quad 50
>couldn't eat for a week because of smell
...and he almost got it by a V1 Buzzer once.
I learned to NEVER mention the Japs around him after that day.
>be me
>join Army
>jews, japs, hermans & reds are our buddies & in our military talking shit about Arabs during Desert Storm #1 training
>remember grandpa
>feel sad
>now I know what he meant about military
>grandpa was right, frick 'em all
So what's a good movie about the battle for Okinawa?
>87 year old grandpa
>was on a destroyer during ww2
>swam to the second breakers each day at the beach
>Great grandfather was part of a Canadian tank crew
>Landed at Normandy a few weeks after D-Day
>Given newer model tanks that are different from the ones they trained in
>Basically have to learn how to operate these tanks while in combat
>Manage to take German-held village without any casualties on either side (Germans were outgunned and surrendered)
>The next day more Germans show up to try and retake the town
>The Germans have to cross over an open field to reach the town
>The Canadians use their tanks and pretty much spend the entire day in a one-sided battle where they kill around 100/150 Germans
>At some point during this my grandfather is wounded and nearly loses a leg
He never talked about the war at all. I only found out about this by googling the name of his regiment.
Honestly, Imperial Japan's armies did nothing wrong
is that the actor that played the little kid in Jurassic park?
Yes.
im good with faces
all the Island battles were fricking hell on earth
Which was shittier:
>The frozen wastelands of the Eastern Front
OR
>The sun-baked rocky islands of the Pacific
All you have to do to answer that is look at the casualty reports
>get frozen to death, get muddy fricking everywhere
vs
>get bitten and eaten to death by both types of insects (hue) and various forms of water illnesses and malaria and possibly rocked by kamikaze/bushido suicidal warriors
both were shit, id lean pacific was worse
also, you had to be AT SEA FOR WEEKS to get to fricking pacific theatre, so enjoy puking all the time
I saw a German soldier's journal where he talks about how even the rats were swimming across the canal to get away from Stalingrad. That's when you know it's bad.
I think New Guinea is considered by a lot of military historians to be the single worst place that two armies have ever tried to fight each other.
for me, its the Philippines (1941)
>entire US Air Force gets destroyed in the first 30 minutes of the war
>the surviving airmen all become infantrymen and get sent to the front line with no training
>the Americans supplies get left behind during the retreat to Bataan, all the troops have to survive on 300 calories a day
>Americans run out of malaria pills and troops start getting sick. There are so many disease casualties that sick troops are turned away from the hospitals and get sent back to the front
>soldiers are literally fighting off the Japanese while sitting in their foxholes covered in their shit
>7/10 airmen deployed to the Philippines would not survive the war
>169019847
yawn
not even worthy of a (you)
>it's the naval battle of Savo Island episode
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE
keep posting pics picanon
pacific was a kino show and a kino war, i might start up carlin's podcasts on 'em
>Russians currently unable to take a small country that most ppl predicted would collapse in two days
Bravo vlad
>nazis are white supremacists
>ally with japs to kill white americans
Finland was germany's only white ally of the war, and they were at war with predominately white countries
>Great grandfather has a monument dedicated to him in the Philippines for beating the Japs so hard and freeing the island
Based grandad. I have one of the swords he brought back with him.
>it's an Australia episode
>Groves expected to have another atomic bomb ready for use on 19 August, with three more in September and a further three in October.[305] Two more Fat Man assemblies were readied, and scheduled to leave Kirtland Field for Tinian on 11 and 14 August.[304] At Los Alamos, technicians worked 24 hours straight to cast another plutonium core.[306] Although cast, it still needed to be pressed and coated, which would take until 16 August.[307] It could therefore have been ready for use on 19 August.
Damn.
Hypothetically, let's say we finish the Japs and then immediately said frick it, time to crush communism with the power of the a-bomb back before that homosexual Oppenheimer got to chime in and leak of all of our secrets the soviets. What would history be like?
Definitely no moronic space race, which in retrospect was fricking gay anyways. No man on the man.
Would we end up with a sick ottoman radical jihadi super state that comes to power in the 60s? Because that seems way cooler than commie shit.
Thé US should’ve just defeated the ussr after the war and the story would be complete
god i hate war. i can't help but feel bad for all the casualties no matter what the other country/people did. maybe one day humanity will finally find an answer to true world peace, but we're no where near that answer in this timeline
Don't worry anon, peace is coming. Peace is coming for all of us.
dan carlin's series on this is fantastic
really details all the horrors happening in this part of the war
genuinely gut wrenching
It was pretty much a joke compare to what people endured at the eastern front.
Amerisissies wouldn't have lasted a single week there
Sure they would have, Americans know you need a supply line to keep an army fighting. Someone the moronic Russians just didn’t know because they were led by morons that punished dissension with death. Lol. Communism. It was over before it began.
here's for you anon