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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This line makes so little logical sense. Good and Bad are not measures of power...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actually debunked

      God doesn't exists

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Prove you are ignorant without saying you are ignorant

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What's so unpleasant about most of that? That quote sounds like the type of shit that bitter women say about their "manipulative, abusive narcissistic ex-husband" and is more reflective of how unpleasant and weak the West is.
        There's no higher power that's going to do all those things for us, but if there was some dictator that embodied those qualities, I sure as hell would want them on my team.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >This abstract concept does not exist as a physical thing in the material world
        And yet we act all spaced out and in awe when a scientists says the Earth is made of Unicorn Farts

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
          And then every judeo-christisraelite clapped in awe.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You're comparing traditional religious text to the act of an academic with no religious leanings making an obvious and matter-of-fact thing more mysterious and magical sounding than it really is

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Take the “god was an ayylmao dicking around with dna and shit” pill

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why is Richard Dawkins talking about me?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

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        the day you refute this I will believe in God

        2000 years to come up with a good response and god gays are still btfo by this.

        It's as simple as this, God's love is infinite. Yet at the same time his capacity for hate is infinite. If God gave you free will and you exercise it to choose evil or in some cases you willingly do nothing to prevent evil who should you really blame?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Funnily enough that was Wonder Woman 2017 original ending when it was still the Snyder Verse, she realizes no god is making any man commit to world war and she’s the only one actively intruding and it’s just the nature of men.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically true. Christian God in the Bible is basically king of the incels which might explain why there's such an overlap in America between evangelicals and being an angry sexless loser

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >LITERALLY creates women
        >misogynistic

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Creates women
          >Makes them go to horrifying pain just to reproduce
          Yes.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            God is not forcing them to reproduce and face the pain. Women that actually wish to have a kid go through it willingly, as God intended. That pain is basically a failsafe to stop women from shitting kids in a whim because creating life is a very serious matter (as he would know).
            Next.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That is a cause of bipedism, if women want to stop having painful births then every person in the world must start to walk in fours

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >p.s. I think necrophilia is great
        >p.p.s. wait why are there muslims everywhere uhhh can we go back to churches

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Theological debates aside, he's right. OT YHVH fits most of these adjectives as defined today.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Your Girlfriend doesn't exist.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the Ur-fedora tipper, Dawkins.
        Funny how little he mentions Judaism, Islam, or Hinduism

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You simply cannot take such a jolly well-fed face and innocent eyes seriously. He's like a kid

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this is why he is my god. new god sounds like a huge pussy in comparison.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        All of those character traits are bad when people express them but not when God does because God is holy, which means all of His ways are right. Every night, I fall asleep to the sounds of Christopher Hitchens screaming in agony.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        well, at least God isn't gay like Dawkins

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actually debunked

      >God
      >all good
      Where do people keep getting this idea from?
      >killed 99.9% of life on earth with a flood
      >made a dad almost kill his son for the lolz
      >has sent billions of people to be tortured in hell for eternity for no reason other than not believing in him, regardless of how virtuous and altruistic they were in their life

      Christianity makes a lot more sense when you view God as a dictator who demands worship, rather than a benevolent father who loves you

      >Prove you are ignorant without saying you are ignorant

      the day you refute this I will believe in God

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It's God's job to remove evil not ours
        Hah, the thought processes of an eternal child.
        Debunked.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I created evil but it's your job to end it
          so god is just some pissy lazy bastard who expects his children to do his dirty work for him otherwise he will punish them with eternal hellfire?
          yeah that's Abrahamic israelite religion for you lmao
          Imagine falling for this crap for 2000 years straight

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Gods spread evenly across everything. Personifying him is something I see theists and atheists do. Idk why. It seems like they're both stuck on dated ideas.
            I always imagined if you sat there looking at a glass and asked god to lift it, someone would walk in and take a drink from it because they were thirsty. Because it follows a logic. God isn't going to open up the console commands and break the system he created for every little thing. Especially for things that can be solved internally. I imagine all these religious instances would be records of moments he did crack open the system, assuming they're legitimate.
            But that's just my thoughts.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              well said, I use to be athiest and it's really funny and disappointing to see how simple and dull people are trying to make a being like god into. The arguements they use are based on such infantile and "human" standards and logic, god is such an abstract unfathomable concept that people truly will never fully comprehend. He is everything and nothing, theodicy and why evil exists is the biggest reddit go to for owning le religious people except the people pointing to the existance of evil are always the ones that can hardly even grasp the full concept of evil/ the negative from a philosophical and advanced view and yet they want to argue the metaphysical aspect of evil.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

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            the day you refute this I will believe in God

            God didn't created evil tho.
            Why should he stop it?
            It's a human consequence.
            Imagine your dad having to stop and make up all the frick ups you do in your life
            Why would God do the same thing?

            Also
            >He is not stopping evil, so he is malevolent!
            What the frick is that argument
            It's like saying, if a dude is pointing a gun to a women, and I don't stop him before he shoots, I'M a killer.
            That's kindergarden morals rigth there

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >It's like saying, if a dude is pointing a gun to a women, and I don't stop him before he shoots, I'M a killer.
              It's like saying you knew your entire life that the woman would be shot, you went to the shooting strapped with enough firepower to overthrow any government on Earth or elsewhere, and then watched it happen. Sure, "not your responsibility", but then some people called you an butthole for not acting and then you shot them instead. That's more of an equivalent scenario.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >you knew your entire life that the woman would be shot
                Then nothing I do will change that.
                Why would I?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                LOL.
                Are you like solipsistic or something? If you were armed to the fricking hilt and had all of the foreknowledge possible and had every opportunity to save the person about to be shot, would you not even attempt to do it?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If you were armed to the fricking hilt and had all of the foreknowledge possible and had every opportunity to save the person about to be shot, would you not even attempt to do it?
                If that women is going to be the grandmother of a hitler baby in 600 years probably not

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >the ultimate creator who's responsible for everything didn't create evil because... BECAUSE HE JUST DIDN'T OKAY?!
              I laugh every time I'm confronted with this kind of delusional mental gymnastics

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Believing God just molded the earth into shape is as delusional as you thinking God molded a black tar-like energy and just whooosh rain it into the earth as "evil"
                If I I teach my son to value other people and he goes and shoot someone anyway because he just want to, I didn't "create evil"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >be computer programmer, claim to be the best that could ever exist, a literal wizard with computers
                >write something full of bugs
                >get called out on it
                >uh uh uh um bugs are just how computers work you can't get rid of them

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >you die in a video game
                frick these bugged game mechanics

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >write something full of bugs
                That's the contention point tho.
                The code he wrote function as intended when played as intended.
                If you tap to it and tamper and start shit around, why call god on your frickups?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >tsunamis and cancer are a human consequence

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anon we are perfectly aware of why tsunamis forms, it's an eartquake on the ocean
                And cancer is a celular degradation caused by mutations on the dna, also perfectly explainable
                What the frick has that to do with "evil"

                >Men do that not god
                Say, how old was Jesus's mom again?

                I ain't giving Zeus the benefit of the doubt. Why should that be different from the Christian god?

                Breh "pedophilia" is a made up line that's less than 100 years
                It's legal to frick 16yo kids in some countries in the usa RIGTH NOW
                >how old was Jesus's mom again?
                Say 16. Perfectly legal. In the usa. Rigth now.
                Now what.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Say 16.
                It wasn't, but whatever.

                >Breh "pedophilia" is a made up line that's less than 100 years
                If your argument is "You are defying god by correctly believing you shouldn't frick teenagers" then I will happily defy god.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >correctly believing you shouldn't frick teenagers
                Correct by who?
                Is 16yo ok to frick for you?
                Because the legal system says it is.
                In some countries is 14yo. If you move there, the legal system says it is.
                In some countries is 12yo, if you move there, the legal system says it is.
                "Correctly believing" according to who? And we are not even "defying an omnipotent being" here, just common human man made imposed limits.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                god causes natural phenomena, these natural phenomenon destroy the lives of humans at random without caring for virtue or faith, if a human caused the damage these things do he would surely be evil so why is the first cause of these worldy events not evil?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >god causes natural phenomena, these natural phenomenon destroy the lives of humans at random without caring for virtue or faith,
                I mean, technically we don't know that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                A- An earthquake doesn't think about his actions, so it isn't subject to moral judgement
                B- Men can build protection against enviroment that doesn't think about his actions, making earthquake resistant stuff, so even if it could think, men can intersect
                C- With sufficient knowledge (ej: if in the future we could predict eartquakes 300 years in advance) this wouldn't even be a moral issue, at a fundamental level is an argument based on current ignorance

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                But what if man could simply blink and stop or undo the earthquake, but just didn’t because lol. Do you worship this person? The only reason to do so would be fear.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but just didn’t because lol
                Because "lols"? No
                Because there's no point of "stopping" something that's a consequence of a 1000 other things that will eventually do no harm? Why the frick would he stop that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                god chose to kill thousands of innocents through earthquakes over the last 2 thousand years

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Earthquakes are produced by friction on the tectonic plates anon

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'm sorry, I thought god made everything.
              >b-but free will
              natural disasters, disease, parasites, frick you

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Evil doesn't mean evil in this argument. It means any bad thing. Natural disasters for example. An all powerful benevolent god wouldn't create natural disasters.
          And all your dumb free will arguments don't apply because natural disasters predate humans.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Evil is the natural state of the world. Good/God is simply a light in the dark.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Evil is the natural state of the world
          Holy shit you fake Christians drive me nuts. Only Man is capable of evil, the natural world is neutral. have a nice day.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The natural world invented death because it needs an endless way to cycle through iterations of life.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So God made an evil world and is therefore evil. Got it.

            Satan is king of the physical world

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          So God made an evil world and is therefore evil. Got it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        http://www.sophia-perennis.com/evil.pdf

        here

        I will see you at church

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >from MY context THIS
        the most easily debunked garbage in existence

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >2000 + 20 + 2
        >not reading Lewis' "the problem of pain"
        >still posting this meme argument
        That's gonna be a yikes from me, dawg

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If the argument in your book actually defeated the Epicurean paradox then you would just be saying that argument instead of just alluding to the book.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >spoonfeed me
            Better yourself, tardman

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >god
        >greek
        >pick one

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        God permits the evil behaviour of men in order to ultimately bring about a greater good than would have been attainable otherwise.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If God is all powerful then the greater good was attainable otherwise. If he can't attain it otherwise then he's not all powerful.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. God is not all powerful, but he's powerful enough to make sure everything goes well eventually.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I accept your surrender.
              You just agreed with Epicurus that God is not omnipotent.
              No take backsies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                God is omnipotent but not all powerful.

                I honestly prefer Hinduism where god is all powerful but not all knowing and we are actually inside his moronic dream.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                isnt the hindu god like an infinite pillar or some shit

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              that literally makes no sense

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            God is all powerful and invites to participate in His creation by giving us free will to love or hate him, to obey or disobey him, to give into sin or strive for virtue.

            God *is* good.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I give into sin.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We all fail sometimes. One of the priests that hears my confessions remarks
                >Only two people never sinned: Jesus and Mary. And repeats Romans 7:19
                >For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do
                Even Saint Paul struggled with sin terribly.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, your rules are dumb and I choose sin.
                I don't choose evil, I choose sin.
                I don't want to hurt people, I want to enjoy my life.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just remember this
                >The wages of sin are death.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's why I can't go fully behind Christianity
                >Jesus never sinned
                Except when he was bashing israelites for trading within synagogue, or when he was promising to torture eternally those that did not believe in him. Or when he was telling people to put him over their own mother, father, sister, brother, etc.
                Which are at very least anger and pride. Which is sin.
                I utterly dislike this notion that "ruler" Is above the law, instead of shining example for those rules.
                Also dislike this "king" - "slave" Mentality. Especially to something (Trinity) or someone (Jesus) that I never ever met For Sure. Someone that teaches to be humble and strong in being weak, to supress urges, but DOES NOT actually protects those that abide. They aren't invincible. At any moment they can be cheated, lied on or about, killed. There are no instructions how to open up your own super powers and protect yourself or at least Know For Sure that there IS afterlife AND it actually isn't dogshit.
                Fricking hell. Muslims have absolutely xenophobic religion (so do israelites) and they get promised 72 giantesses in afterlife, for each smelly hair Ahmet.
                What is Exactly Christian afterlife? Mmm? Just eternal ceremony?
                There are evidence that what black people got their Christianity they mixed it with voodoo.
                I think same thing happened with Europeans.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hoe are muslims xenophobic when everybody can become a muslim? Also that 72 virgins thing is exagerated. Unmarried people will get non-human companions in the afterlife though. Even then the examples from Paradise in the Quran are just examples and you will get everything you wish.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because everyone MUST become Muslims, or their laws and morality don't extend (according to Some subsects) on those that don't/won't
                Same shit with israelites but you only born israelite
                Opposite to that is Christianity. Be nice to enemies too so they can see how awesome Christianity is and accept that Jesus respawned after 3 days cool down and they will skip heck through him
                Or Else! But as far as material world goes everyone is equal (on paper ofc, then again neither israelites or Muzzles REALLY follow Tor, Talmud or Quarantine)

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Oh okay, I guess I'll sin then.
              >no, you can't do that, you'll go to hell
              Wow, I can really feel the freedom. I can do what you say, "Or else".

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget the eternally part

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            From God's point or view, that greater good is already achieved, since God's omniscience includes all of time.

            Fundamentally, your argument is: "Man does evil, and God created man, therefore God is evil."

            This is no different than blaming your parents for your own sins. Just because your mother gave birth to you, does not make her responsible for all of your life choices, no matter how much you resent your own existence.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >has literally been debunked for centuries
        >atheist pseuds still use it as their #1 crutch
        Truly sad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          pseuds still use it as their #1 crutch
          Which doesn't reduce its validity one iota

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            that's some good cope there

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the original redditor

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is just dumb logic. Fixing the evil of men isn't the responsibility of some god and to have such an assumption speaks more of the egotism of man.

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        It's as simple as this, God's love is infinite. Yet at the same time his capacity for hate is infinite. If God gave you free will and you exercise it to choose evil or in some cases you willingly do nothing to prevent evil who should you really blame?

        This.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If God intervened everytime people did something evil they wouldn’t be able to exercise the free will they got. Life is a test and it would be unfair to punish people for the things they didn’t do.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >life is a test
          Nice cope. You will suffer because God wills it, not because you deserve it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not a cope it’s said so in the Quran which is the truth.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Except in islam the test is not about if you do good deeds or bad deeds but rather how much you worshipped god and praised his name.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >His influence grew considerably during and after the Enlightenment, profoundly impacting the ideas of major thinkers, including John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Jeremy Bentham, and Karl Marx.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The Problem of Evil is flawed since
        A. God never states he’s all those things
        And
        B. It’s attempting to humanize a creature that is not human

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The only response necessary to this, is to ask them to describe a world where God is fixing everyones problems constantly, to the effect that no one ever has problems in the first place. Such a world could not and will never exist.

        But this is what atheists seen to insist is the only scenario God could exist in.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Good and Bad are not measures of power...
      Not to defend Snyder credit, but thats not what the lines saying.
      He's just saying if God is truly God then he can't only embody the good in the world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        of course he can..that's what the devil is for

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly.
          The devil is an idea that would embody all the bad in the world.
          Jesus would for some represent all the good in the world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actually debunked

      Sorry, I prefer facts.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        literally over for chuds

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Woah.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        But there are plenty of things you must take on faith everyday that you cannot be factually certain of. If any of you actually lose your virginity and get a girlfriend, you have you have trust that she will be faithful and not get railed by the Chad at work. Every time you cross the street you have to have faith that a driver isn't tweaked out on meth and will come to a stop. Whenever you order food you have to hope the cook didn't spit or piss in your meal.

        If you refuse to take anything on faith and will rely on what you can factual prove you will turn into an OCD schizo lunatic.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          chad fricking my wife at work doesn't damn me to eternal hellfire.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        BOSNIA-HEZERGOVINA

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you might just be a moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why does an omnipotent all-good being want to create ass cancer and pedophilia?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >ass cancer
        Most likely your lifestyle in some way causes cancer
        >pedophilia
        Men do that not god
        You are attributing things you don't like to god, when there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for it
        You don't have cancer because God sended you a magical evil ray, you probably are sitted 18 hours a day and don't clean up your shit

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Men do that not god
          Say, how old was Jesus's mom again?

          I ain't giving Zeus the benefit of the doubt. Why should that be different from the Christian god?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever thought about the difference between the two?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              There is literally no difference. Both rape women, take drastic steps to maintain their power, are supportive of human progress and development but seemingly only to a point, and will murder you if you stop worshiping you.

              >Well, god created the universe and Zeus didn't.
              Okay, and?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're talking about Genghis Khan, anon.
                Why do you personify god? Because you argue with people who do?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I think you're talking about Genghis Khan, anon.
                I mean, he's pretty close to a real live old school god.

                God is not forcing them to reproduce and face the pain. Women that actually wish to have a kid go through it willingly, as God intended. That pain is basically a failsafe to stop women from shitting kids in a whim because creating life is a very serious matter (as he would know).
                Next.

                Isn't one of the first things he does is tell humans to go out and reproduce a lot? I feel this is sending very mixed signals.

                Also, if the issue is too many kids why is abortion a issue?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                are you saying God has BPD

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Somewhat?

                Honestly, my personal stance is just that if there is a god then he doesn't give a frick about humans. The wellbeing of the universe is more important than any humans.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Isn't one of the first things he does is tell humans to go out and reproduce a lot?
                You are missing the point entirely.
                Do you think He wanted a bunch of failures having kids and throwing them in the desert to die because they can't feed themselves much else half a dozen plus kid because fricking is free of charge?

                >if the issue is too many kids why is abortion a issue?
                Do you think He wanted a bunch of failures having kids and pulling them out of the womb with a hanger to die because they can't feed themselves much else half a dozen plus kid because fricking is free of charge?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you think He wanted a bunch of failures having kids and pulling them out of the womb with a hanger to die because they can't feed themselves much else half a dozen plus kid because fricking is free of charge?
                I mean, considering he made sex really fricking fun, yeah? Don't see much else of a reason.

                Like, why not just have kids grow on a fricking tree? Why not actually have storks carry babies?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >why not just have kids grow on a fricking tree? Why not actually have storks carry babies?
                what part if 'creating life is a serious matter and should be treated as such' didn't you understand? If they grew in trees they would be as perceived as irrelevant as an apple or an orange.
                Nowadays we would probably harvest the frick out of those kid-growing trees for the israelites to make profit of them anyways.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >what part if 'creating life is a serious matter and should be treated as such' didn't you understand?
                Then why not only make it possible to have kids if you get a personal permission slip from a angel? Is that too much bureaucracy? Hell, why not just make it really hard to have children in general. As is, it mostly just hurts and used to be liable to kill the women and the child. Which we mostly cured.

                Which, thinking about it, what if we invented something that makes births painless? Are we actively defying god then?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Then why not only make it possible to have kids if you get a personal permission slip from a angel?
                Because that would be against God's given gift to humanity: free will.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Because that would be against God's given gift to humanity: free will.
                You can have bureaucracy and free will.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >having to ask permission
                >free will
                No.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You make a choice to ask permission. If you get it depends on your choice.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you need to get permission to do something that you would otherwise do of your own volition you don't have free will by definition.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If you need to get permission to do something that you would otherwise do of your own volition you don't have free will by definition.
                In that case none of us have free will.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >In that case none of us have free will.
                Half true

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          God made it so those things could happen. He's also omniscient and knew they would.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The body has the capacity for cancer
        The mind has the capacity for pedophilia

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You actually can't read

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >good and bad are not measures of power
      Yes. And?
      It comes down to semantics and it's dumb Hollywood writing but it seems that you lack the abstract thinking to get the point of what's being said here, which works.
      By the way this movie is fricking trash and I hate all of capeshit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. It comes from a place of nihilism.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It is actually an old theological debate older than nihilism. Occam did some interesting writing on it interestingly (not occams razor).

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          By the by, Occam concluded that god can wield the power of evil and still be all good.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It makes perfect sense, except that Superman isn't all powerful, so it doesn't apply to the situation in the movie.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Actually debunked

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      how does that debunk the quote

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Meds. Now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a cope

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually like the anti-cope. It's easier to cope by using atheism by far.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I've reached my intellectual limits and can't advance in my research, so I guess God did it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >intellectual limits
        Heisenberg was a towering genius, only rivaled by von Braun

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In other words he's an idiot who crams god into everything he can't understand.
      Science education temporarily sated his non-understanding.
      But then he hit the limit of scientific understanding and this flaw in his character reasserted itself.
      He's no better than a caveman who saw a thunderbolt, and lacking an explanation, invented a storm god.

      >b-but he's a famous physicist
      Irrelevant. He did something stupid in spite of his education and intelligence. It happens.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You are existing on his legacy, so you can't say anything about him. You are more ignorant than him.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on my 3rd pitcher homosexual, i killed god, become god, find it beneath me and settle as a mortal that appreciates life, liberty and chaos to the highest degree

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Atheism is cringe

      found out recently that you fricking morons actully believe in this shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      God doesn't exists

      >atheists: fedora tipping pseuds from reddit
      >theists: the most accomplished and renowed scientists in all of histroy
      Hmmmmmm

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >God
    >all good
    Where do people keep getting this idea from?
    >killed 99.9% of life on earth with a flood
    >made a dad almost kill his son for the lolz
    >has sent billions of people to be tortured in hell for eternity for no reason other than not believing in him, regardless of how virtuous and altruistic they were in their life

    Christianity makes a lot more sense when you view God as a dictator who demands worship, rather than a benevolent father who loves you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Keep coping

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't he contradict himself on that?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what a chud

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >points at egg carton
            >Look at all these chickens

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              now that the dust has settled, was he actually based?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He sure was dripping homie

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >comparing unfertilized eggs to a fertilized one
              I support first trimester abortions for several reasons, but at least give a smart argument

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you just outted yourself as a braindead republican. lol get the rope

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't he contradict himself on that?

        Why is this supposedly smart and qualified guy such a reddit pseud all the time? Is he a bit of a sperg? Not talking about this in particular.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          stop being racist towards magical space black man

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair if I were born a Black person I wouldn't believe in God either.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Even as an atheist this quote is so cringe it hurts.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>has sent billions of people to be tortured in hell for eternity for no reason other than not believing in him, regardless of how virtuous and altruistic they were in their life
      Debunked. Hell isn't real.
      Take the LDS pill.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know about the Demiurge

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know Cinemaphile is a loosh farm

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Christianity makes sense when you view it through the lens of the authors: primitive sandisraelites

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >made a dad almost kill his son for the lolz
      I hate how everyone knows the story where God stops the sacrifice but no one remembers the story where someone actually does give their daughter to God as a burnt offering and God accepts it.
      >Judges 11:29-40

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >The redditors are coming... The redditors are coming!

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FALSE

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism is cringe

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry but God doesn't exists

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >what is a proof by contradiction
        Smh at yall brainlet ass homies in this thread.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Events that didn't happen because nobody witnessed it can't have proof of contradiction.
          Like
          >A gorilla killed 50 lions with a dildo once.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      actually believing in made up sandBlack person israelite fairytales is the cringiest thing in existence
      two and a half billions of brainwashed morons
      oh and don't get me started on mudslimes they all deserve to burn

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking kino. Lewis was the og absurdist-subjectivist

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    good and evil are just human constructs to feebly explain God's ultimate design

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They're kind of like psychological pain receptors. Serving a similar purpose.
      But this field doesn't usually serve an immediate harm unlike physically. So it gets hard to decipher.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    His acting is atrocious, the only role he was “good” in was as Zuckerberg and that is only because he was playing himself.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    THE REDCAPES ARE COMMING!

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Us judging god makes as much sense as an ant or a video game npc judging us.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Worshipping god is still a form of judgement though, you're just judging him to be good and worthy of worship.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No. It comes out of acceptance of revealed truth which forms the foundation for everything else one does.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I feel bad when I hurt NPCs in video games

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    2000 years to come up with a good response and god gays are still btfo by this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I like how in no point of that chart the fact that humans are the ones making evil is ever taken into account.
      It's just "there", like an evil black tar-like force to checkbox
      >Lions, check
      >Trees, mhm, check
      >Evil, check
      Dehumanizing evil and passing the ball to god is the argument's flaw.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The reason good and evil are a human thing is because it's us who's perceiving it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >humans are the ones making evil
        Because God made it that way.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Then God is not good
      What does this nullify? If there was a God, then all good and all bad would be within it. And so would you and I.
      Why do atheists not think God would be above all good and evil? I think they spend too much time arguing with boomer christians.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >What does this nullify?
        It nullifies the idea that god is good. The point of this paradox isn't to do with whether or not god exists. Its just examining the contradictions that would appear if he did exist.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What's paradoxical about it?
          It sounds more like the author just wants god to either be solely good or just not exist.
          And it seems to be pointing out contradictions that humans believe about god, rather than held traits of god.
          It would be more contradictory to believe that god only exhibits one side. Since how much of a god could you be if you only represent half of the whole? Maybe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Atheists are cowards. If not they would hold that god does exist, but they reject him.

        If god does exist, he’s a useless shit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >If god does exist, he’s a useless shit.
          Only as useless as giving you a platform to give a shit about it on.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >god isn't good
        Heretical

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Just because he doesn't solely embody good doesn't mean he isn't.
          And heresy is a human to human thing. Between one mans perception and another.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      tfw all of these are false

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >LE LE LE GOD IS NOT GOOD
      >NOOOOO
      NOT MY HECKIN GOOD GODERINO
      MY GOD WHO NOT PREVENT ALL EVIL
      I WILL SPITE THEEE GODERINOOO FOR THE REST OF MY DAYS

      Why do you hate God anon?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      All paths lead to reddit s/oy, the infographic

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    fedora take but yes

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Christopher Langan who has the highest IQ ever recorded has proven God's existence.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically God in the Bible is a baby dick obsessed homosexual that wouldn't be looked up to by anyone if they existed. Loathsome individual

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you've made this thread before.

    english speaking audiences were frustrated by how badly it mangled epicurus, in combination with how snyderverse superman was never characterized as all powerful or all knowing.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God created homosexuals, Black folk, israelites and pedophiles for the lulz

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People gotta realize that religion is meant to serve you. Its tradition, family and love. A warmth that you can hold onto when you need it, something to bring comfort.
    Its not fact, but its not truth either. Its what we make of it, how we internalize the lessons left for us and bring those forward to best serve our own needs.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's the cultural function religion served in the development of society.
      That's entirely human to human

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >People gotta realize that religion is meant to serve you
      Please. There is a aspect to that. But above all, it's just population control for the upper class. I disagree with the marxist idea that it's opium for the masses. It's a pen for livestock.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >the bittersweet pain among men is having knowledge with no power
    >BECAUSE THAT IS PARADOXICAL >heheh
    >thank you for coming.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >If god is all powerful he cannot be all good
    When you clean up your front garden do you think about all of the plants and bugs you are killing? No? Then why would god?

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    K here you go atheists

    Checkm8

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Here u go

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ontological proof is cringe
        >a thing that is all positive properties must exist because existence is a positive property
        frist mover argument is cringe too because it really boils down to lack of imagination

        every argument is these two wrapped up in some way that it's embarrassing. the question of "higher powers" is outside the realm of axiomatic reasoning; it's like trying to prove the moon exists with just a mathematical proof detached from reality. it's absurd. i'm an atheist btw

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder: Reject Satan, kill God.

    Anything else is unacceptable. Human civilization cannot be build with aid from Satan, it cannot be made under the bootheel of god. Reject Satan, kill god.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an Atheist but I really hate when people make the cringe "there's bad therefor god either allows evil or he doesn't exist!"
    It's the first one
    literally the entire bible gives all the lore behind this
    So your criticism of the point is refuted by the entire bible
    Doesn't mean there's a good, doesn't mean you're wrong, but you sure aren't going to convince anyone so it's a pointless argument that just makes you look ignorant

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well, duh. The Bible is just a bad fantasy novel. Trying to pretend it's anything else is a bad place to start.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I understand the world through pop culture

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm an Atheist
      >literally the entire bible gives all the lore behind this
      I think its really funny that atheists cite the bible just as much as fundamentalist christians

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The difference is that most atheist's have actually read the bible.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know how anybody could read a Bible, look at the state of American Christians and go "Yep that fits!".

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, I kind of do in a very cynical "Well, how else could it have ended up?"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          How pathetic. You read a whole book you don't believe in just because you wanted to argue with people you think are idiots.
          There are multiple points there where you could've just stopped. But you're emotionally invested in christianity. Something you think is stupid, right?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >You read a whole book you don't believe in just because you wanted to argue with people who think we should base federal laws on select (!) passages from the book they haven't even read
            Yes, moron.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So you're a lawyer?
              In that case, I can respect it.
              But methinks you just argue with people on Cinemaphile with that knowledge instead :/

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >So you're a lawyer?
                Do you think only lawyers are engaged in politics, anon? Seriously?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So what. You're just lobbying or something?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm involved in local politics in rural Texas. The only way you can talk to some of these people is by arguing against their beliefs with what the bible actually says.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough.
                But just be aware of when you can and can't make a difference for some people. There are hundreds of thousands of communities like that.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >You read a whole book you don't believe in just because you wanted to argue with people you think are idiots.
            I read the whole book because I like studying human myths. I'm a dork who grew up playing Shin Megami tensei and Touhou so most of my cultural background is learning about myths. I don't believe in the bible anymore than I believe in legends about Celtic fairies, but I still think the actual stories are pretty interesting.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Respectable. I believe its important to realize exactly what the bible was. Which is an accumulation of information written on pages. Further retranslated and reinterpreted.
              Personally, I think its like an ancient internet in a way. It just pertained to its respective geographical region. Stories and traditions get recorded in it and are able to spread to areas further than word of mouth. Creating a culture larger than what individuals can physically do. Ideas and wisdoms are able to be learned more universally.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                While I get what you are trying to say, most of what you describe is just meme theory. Which, granted, I do think myths and religion are central to. But it's still not something exclusive to the bible.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Religion mainly interests me in its role in human development. Since the "true" experience is simply the one we're in. Myths and religions being the memetic condensation of whatever humans can record of it.
                There's a parallel between societal growth and their ability to transfer ideas and things quicker and further. Religion was an important role in incentivizing that during early development.

                The metaphysical theory of all of them is a different story, though. Especially behind all the purely human to human ideas stored in traditions.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I cite the bible when the discussion is about the beliefs of Christians, I'm a little wild like that

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There's just an irony of it to me.
          If you're trying to dismantle it, then why don't you point at the world instead of the book? If its so idiosyncratic to reality.
          And if the person you're talking to fails to understand, then why argue with them?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            1: If you want to break something down it's good to know all of the tools. 2: By that logic all arguments are inherently pointless. Which, okay, they largely are. But I feel this is more about swaying the majority than your opponent.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >But I feel this is more about swaying the majority than your opponent
              Do you really feel the need to do that against christian fundamentalism? It's been dead since the 2000s. Its a literal meme.
              Its people like you who are going to usher in whoever takes their place. You notice how dogmatic people have been lately about their beliefs? Be wary of creating a new dogma. Because the dogmatic sensibilities of the fundamentalist christians is what made them so bad. Just because you defeat them doesn't mean you got rid of the societal tension you perceived from them. Its naturally waning anyways.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you really feel the need to do that against christian fundamentalism?
                I don't know. I feel a lot of people, especially centrists, somehow think they can be reasoned with.

                >Be wary of creating a new dogma. Because the dogmatic sensibilities of the fundamentalist christians is what made them so bad
                While I get what you are trying to say and I do mostly agree. I would also add that, at least when it comes to America, not being a doomsday cult would be a positive step.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >not being a doomsday cult would be a positive step
                Our nation is being ran by a doomsday cult and they're not citing christianity.
                Given the state of things, I think the population in general has a logical enough reason to be believing like one, though. Ironically giving credence to the doomsday christians who were always like this, but thats besides the point.

                I just suggest taking a look at the types of people who try tearing down this pasts image of christianity. Or whatever broad concepts that they dislike. Capitalism. Racism. Whatever these people like to associate to christianity (which are all a part of their personified character of the old age they're dismantling to make way for their new one).
                To me these people look like they're just making credibility for their new dogma by destroying the old one.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >To me these people look like they're just making credibility for their new dogma by destroying the old one.
                I mean, that's not bad if the new one is better.

                To a certain extent I kind of think you need at least some degree of dogma to get anything done. It's mostly just not letting it consume you that matters.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean, that's not bad if the new one is better.
                It's not a matter of good or bad.
                Its a matter of when it goes to shit. Worse off if it started off shit since it'll just sink lower.
                Religious practices have thousands of years of credibility. There is wisdom in there, even if the average person doesn't know or fixates on irrelevant aspects.
                The new dogma I'm seeing crop up appears to have developed in the last 100ish years. Particularly around the 50s-60s.
                It seems to pertain itself too much on destroying the past to ever metastasize into something stable.
                Dogmatic systems can be good for large populations. It just needs to apply logically to reality. Until reality changes so much that it doesn't compute. Whatever dogmatic tradition I see out my window does not compute with a stable reality.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Its a matter of when it goes to shit
                Everything goes to shit eventually.

                >Religious practices have thousands of years of credibility.
                I view that as a downside personally.

                >It seems to pertain itself too much on destroying the past to ever metastasize into something stable.
                The past has to be destroyed for something new to be created. Focusing on that is simply accepting that fact.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I view that as a downside personally.
                Thousands of years of the most pertinent knowledge that could be recorded at the time. Out of the thousands of spiritual practices, and the hundreds of thousands of people that contributed to each one, many of them got some observations of the universe right. It's inevitable. There is always relevance to universal observations. The same way you can find the same type of advice from spiritual texts from across the globe.
                Thats my point.
                >The past has to be destroyed for something new to be created
                The past is inevitably destroyed. Because we always live in the present context. Its when people are building the new context on the pasts rubble. Instead of right here in the present. Leaves ghosts.
                A lot of the dogma we're seeing implemented today is rooted in the fact that it "smashes" the old one. They'll be haunted my memetic ghosts imo.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Take a look at this thread, anons. This is what Zaddy Daddy wanted: to provoke meaningful discussion. Truly a testament to the deeper themes of his work. #SYNDERVERSE

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >to provoke meaningful discussion
      >deeper themes of his work

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >to provoke meaningful discussion
      >deeper themes of his work

      https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4

      You are literally here because Snyder decided to do something more than just yet another superhero movie

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Intro to high school level philosophy, trying to hard to be deep and thinking it is kino. It is time to go back

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Come join us, Cinemaphile

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw none of these Black folk can answer the Riddle of Steel and enter Valhalla

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love to polish my beliefs in this threads.
    I know I'm getting closer to true knowledge when anons stops responding to my arguments.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yo ya'll mufugguhs is homosexuals yo. Nawmsayin ya'll be suckin dick and them b***hes? Be eatin pussy nawmsayin? b***h.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >God is bad for allowing humans to have Free Will

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically, yes.

      It's like giving a kid a flamethrower and then acting shocked when he burns himself. The only possible future for humanity is a end to free will anyway as we all essentially become one giant hivemind.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We will become the gods.
        All, everyone. Actually equal. Omnipotent and all knowing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's WHY God gave free will that makes him bad.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >make thing
      >put thing among other things
      >know exactly how these things will interact because i'm omniscient
      >punish thing forever for doing the metaphysical equivalent of a chemical reaction

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>know exactly how these things will interact because i'm omniscient
        You know exactly what you're gonna end up with whenever you jerk off but you do it anyways. And your ensuing post nut clarity isn't a punishment as much as it is the common course of action.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          And masturbation is wrong. According religion.
          So God is in wrong.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >"all-good"
    Define "All-Good"

    You cant define "all-good".
    You especially cannot define good without knowing what is bad...
    just like you cannot know what a hot day is a like without knowing what a cold day is like.

    You merely have a relationship with god... or you do not.

    It's not a question of wither or not "god" exists... god is merely an idea...and not a novel one either...tons of various ways to mention god and its all rooted in the psychology of consciousness and of groups.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God may very well exist.
    But if you think any religion past, present, or future will paint God's picture, you're a fool. The only reason the big religions currently exist is because they piggybacked off great empires.
    Christianity and the Roman Empire.
    Islam and the Umayyad.
    Buddhism and China.
    The only exceptions being Judaism (ethnic identity tied to nomads) and Hinduism (numerous traditions somewhat tied together, similar to nordic paganism).

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lex has always been full of shit like that so he can justify his homosexualry, although it was particularly bad in this movie

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seventeenth century.
    >illiterate Cinemaphile does it again

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It saddens me that so many cannot see. I wish I was eloquent enough to explain the beauty of it all. The splendor of God. I used to be an atheist myself, so I know how hard it is to break through to someone with that mentality.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      not everyone can get abducted by aliens

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Funny, the world seems pretty horrific to me. The universe is basically entirely inhospitable to life. The places that can actually support it are outliers on top of outliers.
      And life itself is horrific. With the exception of plants and bacteria, every living thing exists by killing and consuming the flesh of other living things. Nature is a 24/7 horror show where everything is hungry and miserable. Desperately trying to survive and not get eaten. We're the only ones who see it otherwise because we solved the food problem.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Boring. Atheism has a lot of aesthetic potential and frankly this sucks. You’re wasting it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Atheism has a lot of aesthetic potential
          Honestly no.
          The only aesthetic futurists are the ones that get into that quasi spiritual mind shit.
          Atheists aesthetically smell like shit if ill be frank.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If atheists manage to discover legit super powers then sure. Until then no

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cope

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus is bloody dead m8.
      Bunch of Roman blokes nailed him to a bloody tree didn't they.
      Does this c**t think he can talk to dead people?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jesse Eisenbergstein sure is cringe

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why does God permit evil? Simple, evil glorifies God. Or rather, it's humiliation and destruction does. A reality where evil is overcome and defeated is more valuable than one where evil never existed at all. Consider that from God's timeless perspective, the kingdom has already been actualized. And in that splendid eternity, a redeemed and sanctified mankind, having experienced the horrors of evil and sin directly in the fallen world, will possess a unique perspective and wisdom that not even angels can fully understand. Those are the souls God wants to dwell with. You were meant for so much more than you think.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who is Jesse basing his performance on?

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is it Sneeder shilled by pajeets because all his movies are shit?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cope harder. You are relentlessly ignorant and inept capeshitter

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God permits evil because he is evil. Take the gnosticpill

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >God exists but he didn't create humans and doesn't care about us
    >those who had a vision of God was when he was passing by the Solar system
    Change my mind

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao being an Athiest all the while posting on Cinemaphile doesn't make you any better, homosexual.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >waaaahhh if my parents really created me then why do bad things happen to mee? Why can't I get a gf???

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Literally everything bad in the world is God's fault. We are completely blameless because God controls everything we choose to do is ultimately God's choice for us, as part of his plan.
      I could kill your entire family in front of you and it would not be me pulling the trigger, it would be God. God would just be using me to send everyone you love to hell.
      We are just passengers in this world, and God is the ultimate and only sinner in this world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's part of God's plant that you cope, seethe and dilate more, you must do it now because you are not free

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          And what do you do?
          What CAN you do at all? Besides walking (if) talking (if) lifting some meaningless weights (if) seeing (if) hearing (if) thinking and understanding reality as close as it's actually humanly possible (BIG if) and posting here meaningless replies stroking your own ego?

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We are all a fledling god's various reincarnations - only once it has lived every and all lives, does it know what it means to have absolute power.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >fledling
      And fledgling* too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How do you know

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Your life won't become more interesting for believing in magick or succubuses.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you just outted yourself as a braindead republican. lol get the rope

      >le commie posting
      yikes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Your life won't become more interesting for believing in magick or succubuses.
      You welcome to 2ch hk /mg , into succubus thread. Arm yourself with Google Translate if you don't speak one of future world languages

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is what atheism took as a major revelation... Because they didn't bother reading classic Greek philosophy and realizing how much of the Christian concepts of God is a bad copy paste of Greek vision of what is a unique God (jews also stolen from Greeks) onve you start to understand how much monotheism "borrowed" from Greek philosophers you realize why atheism is bullshit, atheists however don't like to read, they just want to be edgy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >onve you start to understand how much monotheism "borrowed" from Greek philosophers you realize why atheism is bullshit
      It does not follow

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        omniscient is a concept entirely developed by greeks, however israelites (and later Christians and Muslims) realize how cool is that concept because it's like the ultimate superpower and they just straight up steal it, even when nobody had an accurate description of what being omniscient truly means, because it's an unsolvable paradox at many points, cause some knowledge straight up cancel other knowledge leading to logic loops, traps and death ends

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >how much of the Christian concepts of God is a bad copy paste of Greek vision
      To be fair, with something as universal as God, everybody's doodle interpretation of it will end up looking like a copy paste job of the othe.r

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >To be fair, with something as universal as God, everybody's doodle interpretation of it will end up looking like a copy paste job of the othe.r
        Yes but the end result looks like a shitty pile of code that went through too many hands completely uncoordinated, nobody fully understanding what the other programmer did

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, it would be ideal if we could all communicate perfectly with no room for misinterpretation.
          But thats just ideals. Saying "the end result looks like spaghetti code" is really hoping for a final answer. Something that is really easy for us to understand.
          In regards to humans ability to communicate it, history of nations are garbled by the passage of time. As with most complex information generated by man.
          In regards to the actual content of what god is, I would say even trying to get a final picture of it would be its own philosophical debate.
          Speaking metaphorically: something as expansive as God would include our own eyes which we use to perceive it. So how could we put our own eyes on god if we need them to be able to perceive it? How could we get a full picture of god if we give up our eyes to create it? Idk if that dynamic makes sense to you, but thats sort of the way I imagine it. Could be nonsense.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone arguing about the validity of God's existence and morality in a basket weaving hungarian forum is a fricking moron. Frick you all, you are homosexuals.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God is real, Christ is King and all israelites will burn in Hell forever.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And what if heaven is long but subverted and in worse condition than West?

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If good is all-sneedful
    he cannot be all-chuck

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    atheists
    >SHITSTIANS are so fragile and illogical
    also atheists
    >NANIIIIII YOU BELIEVE IN GOD IN current year AAAAAIIIIEEEEE I'M GONNA TURN troony AND KILL MYSELF NOW DAWKINS VULT

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dead religion, literally has a more popular fresh expansion called Islam. Never won't be hilarious how alt-rights chose a israeli religion as their core identity, shit's amazing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      alt rights are mostly neopagan

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well this blew up! Thank you for the gold kind stranger

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's all just a part of God's lessons. You have to remember that your existence is nothing next to his. His enjoyment comes from watching humanity. Things like AIDS and monkeypox exist because he doesn't want us to be homosexuals and he doesn't see the point in coming down an infinite amount of times to tell us not to do things. When Eve tempted Adam we lost our right to an eternal paradise without worry.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i've smelled the scent of sex before and i can't smell it on this thread, senpais.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Muslims have no problem with sex while being religious morons. Then again, they don't have the whole weird BDSM thing going on with their sky master fricking them over to show his love. For me just the idea of an all-powerful boss fricking his subordinate's wife till she's pregnant instead of just getting his own is enough to tell that's some bottom-fetish religion.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >anti-christian is a cuck fetishist
        lmao of course

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          How is he cuck enthusiast if he is against it?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. They actually do too.
        You completely submit to the ways of Allah. If Allah gives you cancers, so is His will. If Allah Allows you making billions of dollars and drop giant turds on angelic looking kafir escorts so is His will too. He hears everything and everyone. Nothing goes without his will. Only difference is that even it kafir lives good now (because Allah allows it) he will go to the shitter because he doesn't know the "truth" which is Quarran, he doesn't (follow particular subsect) and doesn't do obligatory x times of prayings. Etc etc etc.
        It's just that muzzles also have their leader marry 9 year old, but forbidding his own daughter from marrying young (older than 9 but still "young") And all leaders=prophets were in the right and you aren't allowed to criticize them in any way (Jesus was prophet too)
        Or else! (Or nothing, depending on subsect, as always)

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is /misc/ still doing the christcuck meme?

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "God" is irrelevant.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God exists and he is just and caring, for he gave every human being the capacity to live freely and in accordance with nature.

    Only bad men hate God, and accordingly no bad men is free.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully he means God is not all good because he set all this in motion, not because God isn't intervening. God can't intervene when the simulation or experiment is set in motion. That would be like editing code while it's compiling. No, nobody has talked to God, take your meds.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God doesn’t control the universe like Sim City so he doesn’t exist.

    Checklad

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If God makes men truly free then he must allow them to be evil
    if men do evil, it's because they are free to do so, not because God is powerless or unkind.

    The clear flaw of God is having hope his creation can be good even when given the option to be evil. Satan is the one who tries to prove him wrong by showing men will choose evil every time, since it is easier and more convenient.

    Men taint God by doing evil, because they prove that God has that choice as well. If he allows evil to exist, in catastrophic levels, then he also has a bit of bad in him as well.
    God, as such, punishes those who taint him, by making them suffer.

    it's all a bullshit game tbh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The evil itself isn't set in stone and highly subjective.
      Unless only one of Three branches and then only CERTAIN subsect is THE truth.
      What is it then?

      Can you lust, hate, envy, lie, kill other human being yes and no
      Can you marry more than once yes and no
      Etc etc etc

      And then how world Actually operates.
      And not to mention Abraham religions are just part of world religions.

      But take look at this : millions if not BILLIONS of people were born and raised on Superman, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the Mask, Batman, Robin (Dick Grayson one) as heroes that are absolutely light at heart and never ever ever kill. If someone makes comics or cartoon or film otherwise those creatives will be met with immense fricking HEAT despite the Absolute FACT that all of these characters are created. That they created. Those creators are WELL KNOWN.
      What is either WELL KNOWN is that reasons why these characters stopped killing was because censorship that was FORCED upon these creators by SOMEONE ELSE. Either editors or broadcasting or film company that wants to have as much spread for their film as humanly possible. (And in case of Bill Finger who later on agreed with censorship, he was also agreeing against heavy beatings, kidnapping and other highly illegal morally grey stuff that was banned along with kills so ALL modern Batman fans frick off)
      Despite that there are millions of greasy nasty moronic "real fans" that will absolutely demolish you with "it's not real character" or "this is out of character" Or "character's creators didn't even know what they created. Despite the fact that absolutely objectively the only canon there can be is where it's absolutely okay if either of these characters kill. Intentionally or as manslaughter, or neglect.

      Now do completely untraceable holy texts that no one Certainly knows were written by whom and with what intentions.
      Great
      Yet entire civilizations are built on this shit. Allegedly.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm atheist and I respect religion for helping us progress with "the rule book of morality".

    What does a society eventually evolve into when the rules of morality are not codified in stone, but instead are vague suggestions based on whatever is currently considered socially acceptable? You are crazy if you don't think it wouldn't shift towards "whatever" over time - moving further and further away from what we currently know.

    A funny way to look at it is that TWITTER is the new god, they're now the ones writing the rules of morality. And it's true, things are already different compared to 10 years ago.

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can you feel the warmth of the sun? Understand why rain falls and replenishes the earth? Fathom the continuity of existence? Understand humanity is the only animal to experience awe. Consider that man is the only animal to able to hypothesize, experiment and record results. Realize man is the only animal to lie. Wise men learn from the mistake of others whereas fools cannot learn from their own. Humanity's folly is claiming power and understanding over systems beyond comprehension, consequently making them a one eyed man in the land of the blind. My predecessor knew that truth is a pathless and overcoming the fear of death lies in understanding the continuity of existence. Any organization that claims to be spiritual is false. The spirit is not to be organized or mechanical in any way. When human intellect is awake and listening it becomes a bottomless cup of wisdom, compassion and contentment. The meek will inherit the earth.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you feel the warmth of the sun?
      Yes
      >Understand why rain falls and replenishes the earth?
      Scientists say because of temperature differences, vaporizing of liquid from one region and dispersion into another
      > Fathom the continuity of existence?
      Yeah , but people with disabilities can't or they can't express themselves

      >Understand humanity is the only animal to experience awe.
      How do you know for sure
      >Consider that man is the only animal to able to hypothesize, experiment and record results.
      How do you know
      >Realize man is the only animal to lie.
      How do you know
      >Wise men learn from the mistake of others whereas fools cannot learn from their own.
      Everyone is wise man and everyone is fool. It's all context.
      >Humanity's folly is claiming power and understanding over systems beyond comprehension,
      Yeah, like I am rn (right now) can type this text in Russia on my (fricking) phone and I will hit send and it will go just like engineers predicted it will
      >consequently making them a one eyed man in the land of the blind.
      What
      > My predecessor knew that truth is a pathless and overcoming the fear of death lies in understanding the continuity of existence.
      How do you know
      How do you know predecessor didn't lie
      > organization that claims to be spiritual is false.
      How do you know
      > The spirit is not to be organized or mechanical in any way.
      Otherwise we have shit life expectancy I am afraid. Maybe wrong. But where are super powers then and where are superheroes.
      > When human intellect is awake and listening it becomes a bottomless cup of wisdom, compassion and contentment.
      Wisdom doesn't cut the mustard. Actually the foolish ignorance does. Nicola Tesla is exceptional and even then his inventions weren't used by masses as much as Thomas Edison's did
      >The meek will inherit the earth.
      Maybe, but won't inherit Earth in good condition.

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