This show is such concentrated neckbeardism.
>misanthropic genius atheist
>doesn't play by society's rules of niceties or self-delusions
>isn't completely right about everything, but is isolated and suffers from depression because he doesn't fit in with other people
>central conflict is the mutual exclusivity between being right right and being likable: smart people who care about truth are outsiders, whereas dumb sheeple who follow society's rules are happy
>triumphant climax of MC's character arc is him rejecting hope and the pursuit of mundane happiness like domestic love, because he isn't a weak sheeple like the rest of us
The only good arc in the entire series is when he has a class room of doctors competing for spots, and each episode eliminates someone. Most everything after that is trash, particularly when Lucas shows up.
He is a loathsome heroin addict like Holmes
this, he's just holmes but with a team. brett already did all that will ever need be done in that arena.
>smart people who care about truth are outsiders, whereas dumb sheeple who follow society's rules are happy
I mean, do you disagree?
Everyone is a hypocrite. Maybe you have a coworker who's a rational thinking scientist, who believes in evidence through peer review and rigor. Then you go to his house for a barbecue, and he's introducing you to his three pit bulls and telling you how chihuahuas actually bite more.
You're arguing with a strawman.
There was LITERALLY an episode of House where a genius took drugs to make himself dumber, so he could be happy with his hot-but-dumb wife. Let that sink in.
What did you think was hypocritical about that?
It's grossly unrealistic. The idea of being burdened or isolated by genius is farcical. Granted there's been a handful of people throughout history who have been persecuted for knowledge, but that isn't the same thing.
I remember in Physics them telling us about one of the greatest scientists throughout history would say X is impossible, only for X to be proven true a few years after. Like that one scientist who said the concept of a laser is impossible, then it got invented a few years after.
>The idea of being burdened or isolated by genius is farcical.
The character's passion was high energy particle physics, for which there is no commercial application, which means all he'd do is write papers and proposals for either tests or devices that would never see the light of day.
sounds pretty depressing if you ask me.
That doesn't explain why he couldn't enjoy talking to his wife about it, even if his wife didn't understand. Like, she literally wanted him to talk to her about his passions, but he couldn't enjoy doing that, because her mind was so slow compared to his. Again, it's a neckbeard fantasy.
okay padric.
>The idea of being burdened or isolated by genius is farcical
People with high I have less sex, less friends, and are more isolated than people low IQ. this is established fact. Maybe it makes you uncomfortable.
>The idea of being burdened or isolated by genius is farcical.
Genius is diversion from the norm, nothing more. And when you diverge from the herd you will absolutely suffer for it. But no the guy being smart didn't hurt him, him feeling different did. He felt less different when he got syrup'd
you realize that like intelligence doesn't make you a unfailing god like rick sanchez? it seems like you're thinking of like a luck stat in a video game.
The point is that you'd expect a genius scientist to be wise enough to not to claim that something is 100% impossible. But in the end, geniuses have the same biases as the rest of us. There's no one who can look at everything in life objectively all the time and care more about evidence than preconceived notions.
you're a stupid person imagining how a smart person would think.
I don't have to imagine. From Newton to Einstein, the biases in some of the greatest scientists of all time is well documented.
>i don't have to imagine, I have these caricatures of historical figures!
i mean i don't believe in "great man theory" but sometimes you have to realize that there's a very wide gap between being imperfect and being inadequate. many of the people you're talking about were nowhere near inadequate.
yeah but that doesn't mean there are differences in ability between people
the fact that nobody's perfect doesn't mean nobody's exceptional. those are two different things.
>The idea of being burdened or isolated by genius is farcical
mongoloid retard
>28:23
>cope, the video
>dude I can imagine how someone would be hypocritical therefore everyone is
You're both right.
No wonder it worked so well.
someone uploaded every season of House on Tiktok and I forgot how good this show was.
It was safe edgy then and is safe edgy now. Calling it neckbeard is an overstatement. The people at the water cooler have the same mindset as House does, as well as the same convictions.
No, no, no, no, no. House is a very specific fantasy of a very small group of people. Like, sure, everyone enjoys being right, and everyone fantasizes about being the smartest guy in the room who can flaunt social conventions. But House is built around the idea that being right is everything in life, even if delusions make you the happiest. That worldview belongs solely to neckbeard atheists in the early 2000s.
>it doesn't matter if people call me a jerk
>it doesn't matter if I push people away
>it doesn't matter if I end up alone
>I'm right
At this point, it'd be accurate to call House MD a period piece or historical fiction. It's not really something younger people can understand, because those types of atheists don't exist anymore.
wow this show really makes you mad
gee i wonder what deep seated issues its triggering
None of that is even remotely true. Stubbornness is one of the most common traits found around the world.
Most people—religious or progressive—feel that the highest pursuit in life is righteousness. Neckbeard atheists, meanwhile, feel that the highest pursuit in life is being right. It's a completely different way of looking at the world entirely.
feel free to tell us all about the neckbeard atheists who lurk around every corner of your head.
Christians are more prone to that type of thinking than atheists are. The first christians were persecuted for their beliefs and died for them. They held on to their beliefs because they thought they were right, even at the cost of everything else. This doesn't have anything to do with atheism specifically, the dilemma of being correct and virtuous vs being happy is as old as time itself and will always exist long after we're dead.
This scene right here. Watch this scene, because it's exactly what I'm talking about:
>Because he was right. Which meant that nothing else mattered. They had to listen to him.
Christians don't think like that. Christians believe they're right, of course; everyone does. But being right in and of itself isn't as important as being righteous. Meanwhile, neckbeard atheists place intrinsic value in being right (accurate, correct, factual, objectively true). They value it before anything else.
Being righteous necessitates being right. Christianity holds truth as one of, if not the highest virtue. God is everything that is true. Viewing truth as an inherent good isn't unique to atheism or any specific ideology.
Holy fucking shit house was a syndicated medical drama. You fucking zoomers want to make enjoying TV shows a medical disorder too. Everything is a disorder
I believe in God. I like house. Most people that like house believe in God. You can enjoy a character without agreeing 100% with his philosophies
Remember that one episode where House acharacteristically gets super invested in a clinic patient bc she was ROIPED and he's trying his level best to convince her to get an abortion because I guess that's what doctors do? Same episode where he cried about his daddy being mean to him.
to be fair, it was Katheryn Winnick
To be fair, he was forced to spend time with her. It wasn't by choice.
But I've never forgiven that episode for the part where she says something like
>Abortion is murder!
and House smartly replies
>That's a slogan, not an argument.
It was such an insufferable way to try to present pro-lifers as brainwashed sheep and pro-choicers as intelligent free thinkers. Then there was that shit about how birth is some "objective" marker of life. Like, how does that make any sense? How is it logical to say that the birth canal magically grants personhood? That's irrational nonsense.
To be fair he basically proves himself wrong though. She disagrees and has the baby anyway and as they're doing the C section it grabs onto Houses finger and he's forced to acknowledge the life and beauty of it.
That was a different episode. The one where House spends the day with the rape victim ends with her getting an abortion. The one where the baby grasps his hand was some other one.
that's the one where he's trying to convince a woman who's trying to kill herself to give the baby a chance at life that its better to just abort.
Yeah it's contradictory.
It's Sherlock Holmes but he's a doctor. It was a lot of fun.
Atheism is dumb but otherwise house was great to watch. You fuckers are so cynical and jaded you can't even have fun with cynical and jaded anymore lmfao
>Atheism is dumb but otherwise house was great to watch. You fuckers are so cynical and jaded you can't even have fun with cynical and jaded anymore lmfao
It's not about atheism in general. It's about the specific type of Dawkins atheism that was popular in that era. Like, every single episode is House lecturing about how everyone is dumb and people lie to themselves to feel better.
The show is about house going from being a cynical broken man to being more positive. It's a lot like rustys story arc from true detective season 1.
All house could see was the bad in people after his leg operation, losing the woman he loved, and becoming an addict. The show is about house rediscovering the good in people.
Overall it is an optimistic show. Though it utilizes cynicism profusely for humors sake
But then the show ends with him rejecting delusions/the pursuit of happiness. He literally has a fantasy where his inner voice says
>You still have a chance to find true love, get married, and be happy!
And he rejects it as a dumb fantasy he won't be fooled by, and the audience is supposed to clap and cheer that House was too smart and strong to be like everyone else.
To be honest I didn't remember that. I mostly remember house smiling and riding off with his buddy to live life a little instead of run away from life with his work. I haven't watched house since like... When did it end... 2012 I guess.
>And he rejects it as a dumb fantasy he won't be fooled by, and the audience is supposed to clap and cheer that House was too smart and strong to be like everyone else.
t. retarded autist. He was contemplating whether the he should leave a burning building or khs. Then he lies down and curls up into a ball. How far on the spectrum do you need to be to mistake hopelessness and resignation for fedora tipping?
>How far on the spectrum do you need to be to mistake hopelessness and resignation for fedora tipping?
Because that's literally what it is? His subconscious says he can still be happy and normal, and he rejects that, because he's too special and NOT LIKE THOSE NORMALFAGS.
>This is what my life could have been than what it can be.
>If it could have been you're capable of it now.
>You're married. Cuddy's gone.
>We aren't the only two people who could love you.
Obviously he believes in love, he just thinks it's ogre for him at this point of the story. Rewatching this rn and you are a massive sperg.
Neither the writers nor the target audience wanted to see House be a normalfag. They wanted to see him reject normalcy with a witty line and signify he's better than everyone else.
>doesn't pretend to discuss the actual show any more
>talks about target audience instead, aka "the imaginary foes in my head"
Obsessed. What a shit show of a thread.
>They wanted to see him reject normalcy with a witty line and signify he's better than everyone else.
Youtube retrospectives in which the presenter only read synopses of the top rated episodes on IMDB and never actually watched the series in its entirety have been a disaster for zoomers everywhere.
House is a bitter self destructive asshole who maintains friendships, professional associates, and respect from his peers in his field in spite of his euphoric enlightened genius, not because of it. You're right that the writers didn't want him to be a normalfag, but that doesn't mean they wanted the audience to think he was the "good guy" either. His entire arc involves him trying and repeatedly failing to free himself of cycles of self destructive anti-social behavior. Every time he gets close to a good thing going in his life, he blows it all up and copes about how it was never going to work anyway, and the writers make it abundantly clear that he's wrong on that assessment and being a dipshit.
>House is a bitter self destructive asshole who maintains friendships, professional associates, and respect from his peers in his field in spite of his euphoric enlightened genius, not because of it.
He holds petty grudges and treats people like dogshit on a whim, he fired Chase on a whim like a hundred times. I found it funny that they retroactively tried to pretend that he was "grooming Chase to be the new House" so they could get some sort of positive ending to like 9 seasons of puppy kicking when it was clear in early seasons he legitimately hated Chase.
As someone who watched it all, House's behavior and who's side the writers were on varied wildly from episode to episode and also depended a lot on what network execs were telling them to do.
I literally just entered the thread lol, here's proof (inb4 "you photoshopped that entire thing in two minutes because you're The Flash"
nagger did you really make a house thread to have some retarded religious debate?
That's what this always was. Would you have preferred OP post the Family Guy alternate universe joke?
nagger this thread its so shit it attracted a new namefag. reflect upon that.
I'm just saying this is the eternal internet flame war that'll never go away. It's literally the only subject I've seen consistently debated om the decades I've been online. It's going to happen, shitty thread or no
because christians keep needing to have it. can't reaffirm faith without conflict.
Atheism just means you believe God doesn't exist. There're no other requirement. But House was written by the cringelords from 20 years ago who called themselves Pastafarians and said shit like "Ramen!"
Please, tell us more about the people living rent free in your head.
The cringe lords from 20 years ago watch you while you masturbate
No believing in any form of god is a pretty loaded idea that depends on a whole hell of a lot of cultural and philosophical baggage.
Realistically, you're right, but there's no objective reason why atheism should have it's own culture.
I wouldn't go as far as to call it a culture, but in the same sense that gays have a "culture" simply by virtue of being a departure from normal sexual behavior, atheists have a "culture" as a consequence of occupying a philosophical space outside of a typical worldview.
>atheists have a "culture"
Atheists HAD a culture. Dawkins atheism doesn't exist anymore. Atheism was a movement that got superseded by and absorbed into the social justice movement of the 2010s. Progressives are all atheists, sure, but they don't act or think like the atheists of the 2000s. They don't care about evidence or empiricism, and their number one enemy isn't Christians.
Yeah I'd say that's a pretty accurate analysis of what happened to that general group of people. Ironic that evangelical atheists fell into religious thinking just because the people evangelizing them superficially hated/liked the right things.
we can tell you're replying to yourself.
If you swap your mobile isp it doesn't show up as a you. Easy peezy.
You're just making up nonsense. A small fringe population has always been atheist. They haven't changed much. They've always lacked faith
Richard Dawkins wrote a book. But was never the leader of any movement. No one has ever told me they're a "Dawkins" atheist or any of this other rubbish.
You’re either young misremembering or being dishonest there was a large atheism+ community that was really into Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens around 2010 they were in the press and media at the time
not believing in god is a movement the same way not collecting stamps is a hobby.
seriously nagger, did your pastor tell you this shit or something and now you're testing it on the internets?
Holy fucking shit, I literally said the same thing:
Those are both my comments. I'm making a distinction between "believing God doesn't exist" and the very specific atheist movement that was popular from around 2005 to 2013.
you know richard dawkins getting a lot of press/publicity doesn't equal a movement, right?
NTA, but if you were to put the screws to any evangelical atheists from that time period, they'd inevitably reference one of two things: Dawkins or that one greek fag who posed that "if god is all powerful" question
It was the basis of effectively that entire cultural sphere
... dude, seriously, I've given you as fair warning as possible that you're just causing your mind to eat yourself with this shit.
I sure hope you're trolling, because this is an exceedingly retarded post.
>House MD
>The Invention of Lying
>Sausage Party
These are all products of that movement. They're all basically the same story.
... oh wow one show, two movies, and a meme. such movement.
why'd you post your ID? there isn't a checkpoint for miles.
You're making up a strawman to argue against. There is no movement. House md is Sherlock Holmes doctor edition
Someone wasn't alive during the early-mid 2000's. Do yourself a favor and search youtube for the word "God" and filter results by >14 years old
Back to your containment board
Just like how Rick and Morty is responsible for the spergs who chimped out at McDonalds, so too are the House writers responsible for the flurry of neckbeards their show spawned.
Doesn't even mean it's a bad show, but its consequences can't be ignored
>bruh look at all the youtubers!
... or I just wasn't consuming youtube slop, ever, and you're a "persecuted" christian who found enemies everywhere because you were looking for them.
No one said anything about persecution. I was simply pointing out that there's a huge glut of people who fixate on not believing in any god totally independent of a direct response to anyone else. Of course this isn't limited to youtubers, but I think you know that.
>a huge glut of people
you stupid fucking nagger this is the internet, you can find "A HUGE GLUT" of literally anything and then pretend its widespread/common based on that.
the ability to find "lots" of evidence to support literally anything fries human pattern recognition and dumps you into a reality composed entirely of your nightmares.
Gee someone's really mad at the mere suggestion that evangelical atheists exist. Wonder why that is
calling you a stupid nagger for being a stupid nagger isn't anger, you dumb fucking nagger.
I am literally sick to death of people thinking because they can spend a few hours on the internet and find tons of videos/sites to support [whatever] idea, then that idea is completely true. then watching people just dive deeper and deeper into their manufactured obsessions until they have literally no connection with reality.
Yeah totally not mad. You've convinced me.
Thanks! Its rare to see people who can differentiate between typing words and an emotional state.
>I just typed that paragraph full of expletives and complaints because I'm not upset at all
>u say angry words that mean u angry
oh no, its retarded
Oh no, it's projecting
Stay mad other people have thoughts that are different from yours you fucking loser.
*tips m'nora*
Can you just admit that the show is doing a certain thing? Like, whether you agree with it, disagree with it, or don't care, are you at least able to recognize it and see that it's written from a specific point-of-view?
invention of lying, if anything, justified religion. the scene where his mother is panicking over the prospect of death is fucking devastating.
house being smart and being an athiest makes religious people angry
im being serious
if you make a character smart and also make him believe in different things then people in real life, those people will get angry at you and the character
You have to be the hairiest neckbeard to ever have lived to delude yourself of the shit you're saying. House is a wet dream about what every cringe reddit atheist wishes he were.
>triumphant climax of MC's character arc is him rejecting hope and the pursuit of mundane happiness like domestic love
Getting dumped by Cuddy is the lowpoint of his character. It makes him relapse and lands him in prison. The triumphant climax is at the end when he chooses bros before hoes.
Also calling something neckbeardism doesn't make it automatically false.
It's based
The show has aged well except the neckbeard atheist garbage
OP is a lefty troon seething about atheists and pretending to be christian
Tell me you have more estrogen than testosterone without actually telling me. Did you write this drivel on your period? Pathetic. Trash.
When a show is truly creative and honest, it ages like wine.
Too bad season 6 is fanfic tier.
>concentrated neckbeardism.
it was the most popular normie show at the time
especially popular among women
You completely misunderstood the show, to a degree I didn’t even think possible. Nice job?
House is quintessential atheistcore television. It's the same shallow conflict as everything else in its genre.
They can't have anyone like House on tv anymore because you're not allowed to admit that high iq antisocial schizoids (that aren't full blown schizophrenics) are actually really good at cutting through the noise to get at the signal: ie making salient connections.
This is every episode
yes, and it's kino
Diagnostic Fellow Tier Ranking:
S: Chase
A: Taub, CTB
B: Foreman, Park, Adams
C: 13
D: Kutner (only b/c he suicided for Obama, S otherwise)
F: Cameron, Nerd Autist Girl
>S: Chase
>A: Taub
Completely agree. These two were the best.
kek i love seeing all the "he's literally me" reddit autismos getting triggered. This show is repetitive dogshit and you can tell it's written by self-pitying midwit homosexuals who wish they could mistreat everyone around them. Go to any House clip on Youtube, the comments are 50% women, 25% Indians, 25% Spics and Southeast Asians
it's been 6 hours since you made this thread
nobody's seething here except you
No,he's just cynical and hopped up on painkillers 24/7.
Aside from daddy issues from being raised in an extremely uptight military environment,limping on a half-necrotized leg that gives him unbearable chronic pain,a divorce,and lastly,being bossed around by a busty israeliteess; he's a jolly and charismatic guy.
House is depressed not because he is le super smart doctor but because he is in chronic pain and addicted to morphine.
His caustic tone is just him lashing out his unhappiness over others.
The only unrealistic thing is that he still has people around him like Cuddy or Wilson to give a shit about him when he is such an asshole. People like this end up alone and shunned by everyone no matter how good they are at their job.
cuddy makes no sense to stick around as long as she has, but wilson is clearly stated to have some parasitical relation with house. he needs to have house around to make himself feel less like a failure even though he completely fucks up his marriages