Game Of Thrones is the bigger name with normies nowadays, but LoTR hasn't shit the bed yet. It will with this one of course, but GoT is legitimately hated now, and not just by book die hards.
Dumb argument, the movies made loads of changes to the source material (literally hundreds) and were still very successful with normies
Book autists are always a tiny fraction of the overall audience
The source material is literally footnotes from the known story.
Its going to be a shitshow.
Do you see how bad people are trashing obi for the shit cgi?
This is even worse.
And lets not even start on the inappropriate blacks
>The source material is literally footnotes from the known story
No, the known story is literal footnotes. It's doesn't have anything to do with the source material really because there isn't one for this time period.
Tolkien noted the key events and characters involved but that's about it
that's a gatekeeping super autist
most book readers would like to see a book series they enjoy brought to life on the big screen as long as it faithfully adapted and done competently
this will be neither
normies will probably consume this slop for a while out of sheer curiosity and because of the multi million dollar shilling campaign but their interest will wane like it always does when the next fashionable thing comes along
only the nerd/autist has the combined time and obsessive character to bankroll these fandoms for decades yet the moron execs keep trying to sell them down the river for a market of whimsical fools
2 years ago
Anonymous
>most book readers would like to see a book series they enjoy brought to life on the big screen as long as it faithfully adapted and done competently, this will be neither
What you said is almost identical to the comment here
>book autists are able to pre-judge how normies will react to a TV show or movie
Broken clock and all that
lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
i guess we'll see, won't we
i'm not a lord of the rings fan and have never watched any of the movies but the broad consensus these days is that it is faithful to the source material
it's a different age now and it's a statement of pride for writers and execs to preech that the source material is outdated and their show needs to be updated for "modern audiences"
You’re comparing book readers dropping GoT because of dumb crap like “bad poosi” to someone who very clearly has autism and treats lotr like his baby or something.
Most book fans want adaptations for their favourite books, granted that they’re good and at least faithful enough to be recognisable.
Those changes were done to port it over to movies though. They'd didn't wholesale revamp the plot and tone to 'go their own way' like a bunch of untalented homosexual writers.
>they didn't wholesale revamp the tone
The movies absolutely did revamp the tone, infact it's one of the biggest overall changes.
Count how many pages Tolkien dedicates to battle scenes, then compare to how many hours PJ spends on them, because he thinks war and suffering should be heckin awsome and '''fun'''
The Hobbit trilogy tarnished the cinematic LOTR by association, since it follows LOTR in visual design, uses some of the same actors, and shares a director.
In better than everyone. I hated the GoT books (because they are moronic) and loved the TV because I told everyone it was shit and could only end shit.
DnD were hardly involved in any of the success with GoT. Their first attempt, the pilot was such a monumental failure HBO had to bring Tim Van Patten, an experienced television director to do most of the work and coordination whilst DnD just used George’s ideas.
The first couple seasons were so brilliant because DnD’s egos were still small and they knew very well they were nobodies who relied on George’s work and the talented people around them to make the show as good as it was.
The problem came when idiots like Jimmy Kimmel started to invite them to talk shows and treated them like the masterminds behind GoT’s success, that their heads started to inflate and things started to go seriously downhill.
I’m atleast happy their star wars trilogy was shelved because even Disney realised they were colossal hacks, and now they’re trying to greenlight another iconic book series, which seems to be all they’re good at, in Three Body problem, but that’ll probably never happen because it’s very hard sci fi that can’t be dumbed down for normies (or soccer moms and NFL players as they like to say.) and has a HUGE connection to China.
I have more faith in an HBO show that has GRRM writing to work off of instead of pure D&D fanfic, than an Amazon original that is unlikely to use any of Tolkien's supplementary material and is primarily interested in "fixing problematic mistakes" of the franchise more than telling a good story.
D&D are superior to GRRM in every way
it's D&D that made the most popular show in the world, GRRM did not even write the most popular fantasy series of the last few decades
more people knew what malazan was than asoiaf before GoT came out
give D&D their due and stop sucking off that lying lazy lardass
I hope that both are good however with the way that show productions work now, it might be a foregone conclusion.
Hollywood has grappled for a long time with two major problems, tokenism and shitty adaptations.
There is a great danger where purists are concerned since they don't understand the fact that book mediums are slow burns, and if you are making an hour long script, even two hour long script then things will need to get cut or re-arranged, and this is where the real skill of the script writer comes in.
As long as the GOT adaptations have source material, and good show runners it should have a good adaptation. GOT only really shit the bed once D&D ran out of source material, neither of them are really good writers in their own write, but they did an excellent job adapting GRRM works. GRRM isn't a great writer, his work is not a terrible read but he rabbit holes too much.
The danger for the Amazon adaptation I don't have as much hope for. From the previews it's already looking pozzed, and then you have the fact that they haven't so much got the rights to a true Tolkien adaptation, rather some footnotes and no guidance on where to lead it.
You can see this in PJ adaptation of the 5 Armies, the film had the most minimalist of plotlines and therefore suffered immensely as compared to the other Hobbit films. (I didn't like them on a whole, though parts worked well as an adaptation.)
You also have a lack of quality scriptwriting in the fantasy/sci-fi genre in general. So if I'm betting on which one is going to be a complete Turkey it's ROP.
Hey if somebody wants to pay me for posting about Morf/action Galadriel then I'll accept it. But I'm going to be doing this for the next 10 years regardless, so buckle up
LoTR is too much of a household name for even normies to accept this bullshit
GoT is a poisoned ip, pure and simple. Normies are not going to watch it because they know the story will end like shit anyway.
Fire and Blood had some good bits and they're adapting those with House of the Dragon so I at least have some hope for that.
Rings of Power is complete fanfic so I have no hope for that.
Both flops. It's clear they just want to milk existing franchises until they are completely devalued. They don't understand what made the franchises popular in the first place.
I'm getting tired of streaming platform wars providing an endless stream of piss content.
Has there ever been an Amazon show even a quarter as popular as GoT at it's peak?
They are both flops
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Game Of Thrones is the bigger name with normies nowadays, but LoTR hasn't shit the bed yet. It will with this one of course, but GoT is legitimately hated now, and not just by book die hards.
>but LoTR hasn't shit the bed yet
It shat the bed once Amazon changed the source material
Dumb argument, the movies made loads of changes to the source material (literally hundreds) and were still very successful with normies
Book autists are always a tiny fraction of the overall audience
The source material is literally footnotes from the known story.
Its going to be a shitshow.
Do you see how bad people are trashing obi for the shit cgi?
This is even worse.
And lets not even start on the inappropriate blacks
>The source material is literally footnotes from the known story
No, the known story is literal footnotes. It's doesn't have anything to do with the source material really because there isn't one for this time period.
Tolkien noted the key events and characters involved but that's about it
The known story is lotr moron, this crap is based off the appendices ie footnotes to that.
book autists are just ahead of the curve
they hated game of thrones by season 4 and the normies had caught up 4 years later
>book autists are able to pre-judge how normies will react to a TV show or movie
Broken clock and all that
that's a gatekeeping super autist
most book readers would like to see a book series they enjoy brought to life on the big screen as long as it faithfully adapted and done competently
this will be neither
normies will probably consume this slop for a while out of sheer curiosity and because of the multi million dollar shilling campaign but their interest will wane like it always does when the next fashionable thing comes along
only the nerd/autist has the combined time and obsessive character to bankroll these fandoms for decades yet the moron execs keep trying to sell them down the river for a market of whimsical fools
>most book readers would like to see a book series they enjoy brought to life on the big screen as long as it faithfully adapted and done competently, this will be neither
What you said is almost identical to the comment here
lmao
i guess we'll see, won't we
i'm not a lord of the rings fan and have never watched any of the movies but the broad consensus these days is that it is faithful to the source material
it's a different age now and it's a statement of pride for writers and execs to preech that the source material is outdated and their show needs to be updated for "modern audiences"
You’re comparing book readers dropping GoT because of dumb crap like “bad poosi” to someone who very clearly has autism and treats lotr like his baby or something.
Most book fans want adaptations for their favourite books, granted that they’re good and at least faithful enough to be recognisable.
Those changes were done to port it over to movies though. They'd didn't wholesale revamp the plot and tone to 'go their own way' like a bunch of untalented homosexual writers.
>they didn't wholesale revamp the tone
The movies absolutely did revamp the tone, infact it's one of the biggest overall changes.
Count how many pages Tolkien dedicates to battle scenes, then compare to how many hours PJ spends on them, because he thinks war and suffering should be heckin awsome and '''fun'''
Of course, but not with normies who don't pat attention to that kind of thing. They'll just tune it regardless.
>but LoTR hasn't shit the bed yet.
The Hobbit trilogy tarnished the cinematic LOTR by association, since it follows LOTR in visual design, uses some of the same actors, and shares a director.
In better than everyone. I hated the GoT books (because they are moronic) and loved the TV because I told everyone it was shit and could only end shit.
Very satisfying when that came true.
What's your definition for success? If you mean who will get the most viewers then that's going to be Rings of Power and it won't even be close
Which will be the bigger failure?
I have zero expectations for Rings of Power so House of the Dragon. Hopefully they have the writers from the first few seasons of GoT for HotD
>Hopefully they have the writers from the first few seasons of GOT
DnD got ditched and Cogman went to work on Rings of Power, so it won't be
DnD were hardly involved in any of the success with GoT. Their first attempt, the pilot was such a monumental failure HBO had to bring Tim Van Patten, an experienced television director to do most of the work and coordination whilst DnD just used George’s ideas.
The first couple seasons were so brilliant because DnD’s egos were still small and they knew very well they were nobodies who relied on George’s work and the talented people around them to make the show as good as it was.
The problem came when idiots like Jimmy Kimmel started to invite them to talk shows and treated them like the masterminds behind GoT’s success, that their heads started to inflate and things started to go seriously downhill.
I’m atleast happy their star wars trilogy was shelved because even Disney realised they were colossal hacks, and now they’re trying to greenlight another iconic book series, which seems to be all they’re good at, in Three Body problem, but that’ll probably never happen because it’s very hard sci fi that can’t be dumbed down for normies (or soccer moms and NFL players as they like to say.) and has a HUGE connection to China.
Both Dabids are done.
cute girls
I have more faith in an HBO show that has GRRM writing to work off of instead of pure D&D fanfic, than an Amazon original that is unlikely to use any of Tolkien's supplementary material and is primarily interested in "fixing problematic mistakes" of the franchise more than telling a good story.
They didn't spend all that money just to 'fix problematic mistakes' you fricking schizo
Now that you called him a schizo makes me think he's right.
D&D are superior to GRRM in every way
it's D&D that made the most popular show in the world, GRRM did not even write the most popular fantasy series of the last few decades
more people knew what malazan was than asoiaf before GoT came out
give D&D their due and stop sucking off that lying lazy lardass
Can't tell if you mouth breathing morons are being ironic anymore.
what i said was factual
ywnbaw
You gonna get ranged jeffy
Don't know but both franchises are equally cucked, so who cares.
Whichever has more Black folk and gays in.
The one where the non-binary Hunter Schafer doppleganger plays the main Targ character
Matt Smith has got to have one of the worst agents ever
They're both going to bomb like two airplanes flying into the New York skyline.
Gorgeous, terrifying failures that will make the world stand up and weep at the money lost and lives wasted.
I hope that both are good however with the way that show productions work now, it might be a foregone conclusion.
Hollywood has grappled for a long time with two major problems, tokenism and shitty adaptations.
There is a great danger where purists are concerned since they don't understand the fact that book mediums are slow burns, and if you are making an hour long script, even two hour long script then things will need to get cut or re-arranged, and this is where the real skill of the script writer comes in.
As long as the GOT adaptations have source material, and good show runners it should have a good adaptation. GOT only really shit the bed once D&D ran out of source material, neither of them are really good writers in their own write, but they did an excellent job adapting GRRM works. GRRM isn't a great writer, his work is not a terrible read but he rabbit holes too much.
The danger for the Amazon adaptation I don't have as much hope for. From the previews it's already looking pozzed, and then you have the fact that they haven't so much got the rights to a true Tolkien adaptation, rather some footnotes and no guidance on where to lead it.
You can see this in PJ adaptation of the 5 Armies, the film had the most minimalist of plotlines and therefore suffered immensely as compared to the other Hobbit films. (I didn't like them on a whole, though parts worked well as an adaptation.)
You also have a lack of quality scriptwriting in the fantasy/sci-fi genre in general. So if I'm betting on which one is going to be a complete Turkey it's ROP.
I hope they do justice to Daemon. By far the most badass character in the series.
Good looking women in armour wielding anime swords is almost guaranteed to succeed
lel sounds like absolute trash
absolute kino you mean
yeah but you're paid to say that though
Hey if somebody wants to pay me for posting about Morf/action Galadriel then I'll accept it. But I'm going to be doing this for the next 10 years regardless, so buckle up
>next 10 years
Ten years is exceeding your shelf life by far.
Claymore: Sisterhood is sorely needed
its going to be shit but i'll watch it anyway and skip the Black person scenes
my interest is peaking
guaranteed she gets blacked/elfed
Frick should I know? I'm not a sewage worker.
LoTR is too much of a household name for even normies to accept this bullshit
GoT is a poisoned ip, pure and simple. Normies are not going to watch it because they know the story will end like shit anyway.
Fire and Blood had some good bits and they're adapting those with House of the Dragon so I at least have some hope for that.
Rings of Power is complete fanfic so I have no hope for that.
Why did they cast this guy as a Targ? They are supposed to have noble features and that guy looks like some absolute mongoloid.
Both flops. It's clear they just want to milk existing franchises until they are completely devalued. They don't understand what made the franchises popular in the first place.
I'm getting tired of streaming platform wars providing an endless stream of piss content.
The one with more nudity