How blasphemous is this?
Drinking and smoking is OK according to the Church as long as you don't indulge too much
not at all, looks comfy
funny how the right went full 1984 this censorship that when they basically invented the idea of wrongthink with "blasphemy" and "heresy"
Tbh we wouldn’t be in this mess if they hadn’t loosened up and tried to be cool. Should have just kept roasting edgelords into the modern era
It really…makes you think…we live in a society
funny how hollywood is afraid to make shows shitting on muslims.
>the modern American right/left dichotomy existed in the dark ages
I would expect as much retardation from somebody who unironically thinks in terms of “right or left”
you’re just as retarded
He's right you know
cool where is "the young imam" where he smokes and says he doesn't believe in allah
I never understood the whole "heresy" thing
>your beliefs and my beliefs are 99% the same, but because there is 1% that's different, I must kill you
heresy is any (bad enough) deviation from core beliefs. It's relative. Catholics and prots disagree, and prots disagree among themselves, but we all still believe some core tenets like Christ is the son of God, God himself, died and rose, etc.
Common Christian heresies are rejecting the trinity, rejecting the bodily resuscitation (super liberal modern prots), rejecting Christs divinity (islam), following any prophets after Christ (mormons).
But in practice everyone just calls everyone else heretics so might aswell meme it
My Heresy is believing that Jehova, YHWH, Allah, Ahura Mazda, and possibly Janus are all the same God. There could be even more "outsider" faiths and and independent reached by reason like the various "Godheads" in philosphy.
Where do I fall on the heresy scale? Do I get the stake?
Oh I don't actually believe that. Merely that God is a person, and like all people his public perception changes from person to person and from time to time. I still think Christianity is the closest and so far final Revelation but it's no doubt far incomplete on the truth and nature of God just like historical account of a legendary king could say very little of the truth of that person.
yeah you would be a heretic for most of those since they declare themselves to be the only and true god.
didn't even know this existed, for me it sounds like new age spirituals.
you could say the abrahamic god is the same, no one knows for sure where allah came from. Jesus says he is the last truth, and so does muhammad, so you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to say they are all true.
Heresy only became an issue in Christianity when the heretics started directly smack talking the church and the pope. Before that a heresy was basically just some monks arguing between each other about whether communal wine actually turns into the blood of Christ when you drink it. Its not until like the 13th century that the church start actually taking heresies like catharism so seriously that they're willing to launch crusades over it and just about as soon as they do they realize that crusading over heresies is a horrible way to solve the issue. Of course they didn't solve the issues with the church that catharism was largely driven by so later you have the protestant reformation being driven by largely the same issues. That results in religious wars all over Europe because people all over Europe start breaking off from the church and start doing legit insane shit. For example the catholic church never went around burning witches, that's something that only starts happening after protestants break from catholic dogma and some cathologic are rightfully horrified by a huge amount of things that various movements are doing and try to stop them which ends up turning into wars. Those wars start deciding actual national borders with denominations being the key dividing line and you have resentment between nations which fuels more wars. These things evolve over hundreds of years and eventually you have issues like Brexit possibly resulting in a new IRA forming over the border dispute between EU Ireland and UK Northern Ireland.
>Before that a heresy was basically just some monks arguing between each other about whether communal wine actually turns into the blood of Christ when you drink it. Its not until like the 13th century that the church start actually taking heresies like catharism so seriously.
Nah m8, heresy was a huge deal even when Western Rome was still in power. Christian bishops feuded with each other and whole Christian communities rioted over ideas like how the Trinity worked or if the Eucharist was the blood of Christ or just symbolic.
"Against Heresies" was written in 180 AD by Saint Irenaeus. Even in early Christianity there were Gnostics trying to appropriate Christ and Catholic bishops who tried to push heresies among their flock.
If you knew about early church history, you'd understand why it's important. There were countless different sects with different beliefs, and when Constantine decided to legitimize Christianity, he forced them to gather together to form an actual canon they could all agree on, which didn't even work as some popular Christian belief systems - like Arius' - were denounced as heresy right from the start. Since then it's been a constant battle to keep all the shit together. It works in much the same way a nation's government needs to clear out rebel factions forming inside its territory so it doesn't splinter into a thousand small pieces.
1984 was just as much an allegory of past church practices as it was a projection of 20th century political trends.
It was literally an emulation of what state atheist communist countries were doing at the time, coping homosexual
>the right invented "blasphemy" and "heresy"
How can Americans be so stupid? Your country was founded by heretics and blasphemers.
They were founded by masons larping as Romans lmao.
The "right wing" were never Christians to begin with. You're thinking in completely modern terms and trying to equivocate it to the medieval era. The US was not founded on Christianity (the puritans weren't the US), and neither was the rest of 1800s Europe. The concept of "free speech" is completely alien to Christianity, it is an Enlightenment principle.
The show? Incredibly blasphemous according to my tradcath ex gf
what about her presumably having relations out side of marriage
The Pope is not supposed to have emotions. He's supposed to sit in a circular room and meditate all day long in the criss-cross-applesauce position.
Blasphemous? Hard to say
Historically speaking? It's pretty on par for a lot of popes in history
still better than pope Fr*ncis
It'll make you legitimacy respect catholicism more.
Redpill me on the holocaust guys. I'm ready.
Starvation and typhus because the allies bombed the German supply lines?
>Starvation and typhus because the allies bombed the German supply lines?
The remains of more than 350,000 people are in the mass graves at Belzec alone, a camp with a maximum capacity for 11,000 prisoners. Did the entire population of the camp succumb to typhus and starvation 32 times over in two years? Or maybe it was the gas chambers...
Mass Graves at Nazi Extermination Camps
Human remains inside the mass graves at Chełmno, Bełżec and Sobibór
Mass Graves and Dead Bodies
>350k at Belzec
Even Yid controlled Wikipedia doesn’t support this. There is zero evidence of this as no excavation has been done.
They estimate some 11k-33k “cremated” remains are distributed among “mass graves there.
>There is zero evidence of this as no excavation has been done.
Except that's not true. Let me repost these for you:
To be clear your angle is that it’s bullshit right because anybody looking at these numbers can tell
>confession of former nazis
A lot just by virtue of treating the papacy with irreverency.
First season is excellent, the last 3 episodes are incredible, the speech about God is Peace to the African warring tribes was amazing.
Also the show has Miracles and tries to explain how Lenny " aka The Pope " is a living Saint.You'll love the Miracle scene. This show is far from blasphemy, it's almost perfect.
The speech is still one of my favorite in any TV show or movie. Pure Christina Kino.
read into some of the other popes, this one is basically a saint
he's literally a saint
I only watched the first season, but I thought it was great. It's a bit irreverent but I wouldn't say it's blasphemous at all, it's a very earnest take on faith and Catholicism
straight down to hell
Religion is only good as a shallow aesthetic. Try to find deeper meaning and you need to plug your ears and go NANANANANA at least a dozen times in order for anything to make sense.
literally all of the most profound literature in history is religious. all atheism has produced is sophomoric slop
I only watched the first season and it was really good. I wish there was a version with no sex so I could watch it with my mom
looks like a holy man partaking in some of the natural flora that God blessed the earth with
nothing blasphemous about it
Jude Law can do whatever the fuck he wants because he’s Jude Law
he says he doesn't believe in god at the end of the pilot, I think that's more blasphemous than smoking
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GONNA EXCOMMUNICATE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I'M EXCOMMUNICATING AAAAAAAHHHHH
Not too bad. New Pope on the other hand is super pozzed
Kill yourself, shill. Stop spamming this evil shit
Season 2 is worse in terms of blasphemy because of how heavily and unnecessarily sexualized it is compared to the first. The first season does have its moments though:
I straight up didn’t watch it after seeing the woman with the miracle baby white herself out to a retarded boy egged on by her new boyfriend after splitting from her husband. What I just posted is a microchosm for why s2 was so bad
Yeah, that was atrocious, also, it was terrible without Jude Law
It has the pope praying to God to kill a nun and he complies.
Which is based don't get me wrong, but propably counter to church teachings.
>The Young Pope
Not at all. It's a genuine love letter to Christianity. It's the only piece of media to come out in the last ten years which has religion as a focus and isn't intent on shitting on it.
It made me laugh. It made me smile. It made me tear up. It's kino.
>The New Pope
I would argue it's a bit more up there. It's literally the fallout of a saint dying. I didn't like it.
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