How can it be saved?

How can it be saved?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Take a break from constant releases
    Come up with a thought-out plan
    Spend less on actors and more on writers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spending more on writers just means they'll pay the current hacks more money because they think they already hired good writers. The people in charge of Star Wars right now wouldn't know what a good movie script looks like even if I glued one to their eyeballs.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't need it to be saved. Make something new or frick off. If I wanted Star Wars I could just go watch the original trilogy or read one of the thousand or so EU books. If new media isn't NEW it isn't worth my time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many years have you spent on Cinemaphile?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Finally a decent Original Trilogy meme.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's over

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    make a good fricking movie again instead of all these shitty series.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >save star wars
    NOOOO, needs to fcking die already u fricking manchild

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You've got to go away, to come back.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Droid movie featuring an animatronic robot actor with voice over by a A list actor. No lightsabers. No saving little girls.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How can Disney Gay Wars be saved?

    Digits and K.K. meets Sarlac Pit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Re-Roll

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    erase everything from memory after Return of the Jedi

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Start making it for children again instead catering primarily to manchildren

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean for families. Star Wars are family films, not children’s films.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the incest makes it unsuitable for either zoomzoom

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          incest is literally for families anon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >catering to manchildren
      It doesn't even do that anymore.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Start making it for children again instead catering primarily to discord trannies
      fxd, yw

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everything except the OT is non-canon
    >find someone gifted and with a vision like YOUNG lucas

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's like asking how can Simpsons be saved. At this points there's just no point.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not possible
    What's left doesn't need saving and will persist in its half-assed zombie state.
    The damage done by Disney trilogy is permanent and unrecoverable.
    Modern standards have been warped too much to create a new Star Wars that is meaningfully Star Wars.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're right, just let Star Wars (the REAL pre-Disney Star Wars) rest in peace.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let it rest for 10-15 years and then start working on it again with a new creative team. The truth is however it is never going to reach the popularity it once had. The fans of the OT and/or Prequel films/eras have been put-off Star Wars, and there is no meaningful Sequel fanbase. Any 'the Sequels will be popular in X number of years' is cope and misunderstanding of the audiences the Prequels were able to capture - also keep in mind TFA is nearing 10 years and there is no sign of it being 'reevaluated'. What is shocking about the whole affair is how Disney killed it twice: they could have somewhat recovered it with The Mandalorian (which regardless of what you think of its quality it did, initially, recapture considerabe interest in Star Wars) yet Disney then spoiled that with what they did with it and stuff like the Fett and Kenobi shows. Star Wars has gone from something with both mass appeal and a hardcore audience, to something that has neither mass appeal or a hardcore audience.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well put

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Prequels at least had good videogames. It's not worth much to a film executive, but it's worth something, and people who really like the games can forgive much of the movies' problems most of which are just pacing and blandness and not anything really offensive like Luke rejecting the force or The First Order or the failed execution of a greater plot (which, to Lucas's credit, the prequels did have and do very well).

      The Sequels got maybe one good game, arguably two, but that's it. There's nothing else there and Disney will probably pull both games from circulation at some future point anyway.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The Sequels got maybe one good game, arguably two, but that's it
        no they don't
        which videogame is set during the sequel era? i can't think of a single one. all the decent new games are just republic-empire stuff

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can't be.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    decanonize the sequels and make a new movie set after rotj with a recast trio. use the eu books as a lose narrative guideline

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ingruber getting fricked out of Solo after just doing Age of Adeline with Ford was a crime one more instance of Spielberg fricking the guy that made his career with ILM; Ehrenreich got it partying with his daughter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a better Han casting.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Destroy the activists we must.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    totally different setting with zero tie ins to any other films/tv shows

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just let it die. A few good books and video games are all that can be hoped for now

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /tv is the only place I ever see anyone still talk about Star Wars. It's fricking dead. It's been dead since Ruin Jeanstain fricked it with Ep 8. Let it go.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ruin Jeanstain fricked it with Ep 8. Let it go.
      Not that Rian helped at all but if you think that JJ Abrams wasn't almost solely responsible for the state of Star Wars today you're insane.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one was solely responsible. It was a series of bad decisions made by several people over 3 entire films that built up like straws on a camel's back.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ruin Jeanstain fricked it with Ep 8. Let it go.
      Not that Rian helped at all but if you think that JJ Abrams wasn't almost solely responsible for the state of Star Wars today you're insane.

      >this stupid fricking argument
      Episode 8 was the point of no return.
      Episode 7 fricked things royally but it's possible to course correct from a single frickup. Episode 8 could have been good. It could have led into an even better Episode 9, at which point TFA would be seen as the odd one out, the one that "doesn't hold up."

      Primary responsibility for Star Wars crash and burn is Kathleen Kennedy. Rian and JJ bear equal responsibility beyond that. People who think it was only JJ are moronic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        as much as i agree with the blame on KK it's really Igers fault for pushing them on the release date. but overall the failure to have one cohesive vision from the start ruined these movies.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Problem with 7, aside from it being a blatant rip off of a New Hope is that israelite israelite has a compulsive need to establish mysteries that have no purpose other than to be a mystery and Rian Johnson fricked everything trying to either explain them or disregard them to suit his his own plot.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Problem with 7 ...has a compulsive need to establish mysteries that have no purpose other than to be a mystery
          Yeah, although that's less important than the generally poor quality of the narrative. TFA is written like a Disney theme park ride where the audience self-inserts as MaRey Sue and goes on a whirlwind ride through every classic Star Wars trope ever, with no regard for any kind of traditional character or plot development. The Mystery boxes are just one of ways JJ disguises the total emptiness of the narrative. I'd argue the bigger distraction is the breakneck pace and hyperactive editing.
          >Rian Johnson fricked everything trying to either explain them or disregard them to suit his his own plot.
          The problem isn't really that he did this. Disregarding JJ's dumb setups was the smart move. It's just that what he did instead was mind-bogglingly moronic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >mfw that entire casino segment

            What was he thinking?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Rian loves pushing his lefty views in every movie he makes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What was he thinking?
              It seems pretty clear to me that he took everything "Star Wars" about Star Wars entirely for granted. "Wouldn't it be funny if __ happened in a Star Wars movie?" That was his mindset, and didn't feel the need to earn (via well-written, setting-appropriate narrative) any of the off the wall shit he wanted to cram into the movie.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          israelite israelite didn't establish any mystery, that's just people's copium for all the plot holes and he just went along with it and handed over the burden to that other guy. Complete fraud.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what is the "knights of ren"

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Could have been other students who defied Luke with Kylo, or anything really. Again, the problem is no meaningful follow-up by Rian

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Boring is history, Luke. Know that you didn't?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Star Wars exists outside of the movie trilogy. Half the reason late millenials and zoomers like Star Wars is because of the games, cartoons and the EU.
      I wouldn't give a shit about the trilogy being so terrible if the side content was good. Unfortunately it's pretty mediocre overall.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First and foremost, keep George Lucas far away from it. After how shitty the prequels were, he shouldn't be allowed to make any more movies at all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hates George Lucas' work
      >Calls himself a Star Wars fan
      >Is probably a Filoni Clone Wars gay
      Prequels hate meme was over a long time ago.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        morons like you forget that the original trilogy was a product where George's ideas were curbed and tempered by other people, One of the reasons the prequels were considered lesser was because Lucas had complete creative control so his autism went wild.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Liar Liar pants on fire! Anyone who got in Lucas' way got fired! Piss off, Mike

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Hollyweird ((critics)) consider the movies where their hacks didn't stick their nose into the 'lesser' trilogy
          Ah, really you brainlet? Paint me surprised!
          I guess you first check your friend Mr Plinkett reviews before watching a movie.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, all that's left is legit recognition that the prequels do in fact suck even if they have more redeeming qualities than was recognized by its harshest critics over the years.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars can only make a return once threads like this stop popping up.
    As long as its used to stir the pot, troll, bait, whatever, etc its part of various marketing and political campaigns, just like most other forms of popular mainstream media for the last 7 years.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      touch grass
      Cinemaphile threads play no role in anything

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whether they do or don't, its an indicator that its no longer got a hold on a consumer-base.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go the Gundam route and start making whatever the frick works instead of having to shoe horn everything into a canon

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    disney fricked it so bad that you have to start over with only the lucas-approved canon. you can reintroduce old EU stuff if you're careful with it but there's just so much garbage now that you have to say only the prequels, OT, and clone wars are worth actually planning around
    take a 5+ year break, when you come back discard everything disney did and loosely adapt something fans like (maybe KOTOR) with an entirely new cast

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >clone wars
      But not the Mortis trash.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disney will never bring back the EU because that would mean paying out royalties.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By assassinating all of the people involved in the sequels in minecraft

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How can my dad's high school friend, who was buried 20 years ago, be saved?
    Rian Johnson already "saved" Star Wars, by killing any false hope of Disney course correcting. TFA was an inferior remake, but there was this feeling "maybe the next one will be better somehow" that people had been saying since RotJ. But after the trainwreck of TLJ, there was no chance, and so we were free.

    Tldr RJ killed Star Wars and that's a good thing, here's why...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      once the leaked pictures of Canto came out during shooting no one thought TLJ was going to be good

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >TFA was an inferior remake, but there was this feeling "maybe the next one will be better somehow" that people had been saying since RotJ.
      No, not really. TFA got a legit positive reaction at the time (noticing its flaws requires reflection or critical detachment). People thought Ep 8 would be good because they liked Ep 7.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone more or less agreed that safe nostalgia-bait was fine as long as it reestablished the franchise divorced from the prequels.
        It was extended an insane amount of goodwill based on the expectation that they'd actually try to do something interesting with the next installment, now that they knew the public were interested.
        So I can understand the initial positive reaction.
        What I can't get past is all the fricking ravingly positive reviews TLJ got. Absolute blatant corpo homosexualry.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And yet the Prequels Merchandise Made Billions!
          The crap awakens merchandise ended up as land fill!

          Die Disney Die!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol you're so demoralized by your own failure that all you can do is say what everyone knows is true in an ironic way. Improving Lucasfilm starts with you killing yourself.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Their is still a lot of talent at Lucasfilm, almost all the artists/designers from the prequel era are still on the payroll. Its mainly leadership and writing (which is to say George Lucas lol) that Disney can get right.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its because we're in the post modern era of cinema, this is why we'll never get good SW movies again

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah although at the same time Disney-Lucasfilm was driving Star Wars into the ground, Marvel's Cinematic Universe was peaking. Granted most MCU films are cookie-cutter storylines with mid-effort special effects but most of them are still better (story-wise) than any of the Disney Star Wars movies. Hell MCU even has its own Space Opera sub-series. Most of the phase 1-3 Marvel movies stuck with traditional story structures and sidestepped political issues. Even something like Black Panther, though critics treated it like a religious experience it was still mostly just a generic superhero story by and for blacks.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You act like the original trilogy was some sort of masterpiece. It's not. It has a generic plot, a generic protagonist, and a mediocre romance with non existent chemistry. The only reason Star Wars became iconic and memorable is Darth Vader.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go be gay somewhere else,Disney shill!
            The Prequel Merchandise Made Billions!
            The poop awakens merchandise ended up as land fill!

            Die

            Disney

            DIE

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not a Disney shill moron. It's the OT tards that brought us in the Disney timeline by hating on the author's work.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Naw, the OT fans bought the Prequel Merchandise! The vocal minority (buttholes with platforms) made noise

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >author's work
                >incompetent author who needs to be tardwrangled
                boo hoo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You act like the original trilogy was some sort of masterpiece
            No he didn't. And compared to Disney's movies the OT seems like a masterpiece.
            > It has a generic plot, a generic protagonist, and a mediocre romance with non existent chemistry
            It's better than average and delivers reasonably on a 3-movie epic storyline which was rare at the time and even now despite Hollywood's sequel addiction and "epic" bullshit there are very few complete multi-movie stories that are anywhere close to as good as the OT Star Wars trilogy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It failed. The merchandise ended up as land fill! Dumb ass normies spent money on the box office, and yet they didnt buy the merchandise. Star Wars fans did not support this garbage! They did buy the Prequel Merchandise to the tune of Several BILLIONS!!!

        Say it with me, Die Disney Die!

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a billion sci fi books exist that have never even had a single attempt at an adaptation
    >P-PLEASE MORE STARSLOP
    ironically read a book

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh novel adaptations
      Star Wars was never an adaptation.
      One reason there will never be another Star Wars is because movies are no longer made from scratch.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything but Eps I-VI is decanonized
    Disney fires Kennedy and apologizes to fans

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      even then it wouldn't be good enough cause Disney will always strive to make products that appeal to lowest common denominator for maximum profits. it needs to go back into the hands of someone willing to risk it all. Frick let Lucas's son buy it back and make shit, he had to grow up with tons of SW stories to tell

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can't

    Disney will never sell it because they can just make money off of licensing games. But Disney will never let anyone make a decent movie.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Disney will never sell it because they can just make money off of licensing games
      I'm not a member of the gamer crowd, but how many video games have they licensed since they bought the IP? Two?

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its crazy how much the new trilogy completely ruins the I-VI storyline
    >anakin failed to kill palpatine
    >the rebels failed to destroy the empire
    >Han goes back to being a nobody smuggler and loses the falcon then dies
    >the republic is destroyed
    >luke tries to found a new order which is also destroyed after he tried to kill a child
    >leia loses the republic and dies
    i couldnt do this much damage to the originals if i tried, Return is completely meaningless now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want Disney to die. I want a tonne of hate mail to be delivered to K.K. and J.J.(in especially force is female K.K.) daily.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll always be grateful to Cinemaphile for that webm of one of my childhood heroes being murdered. It put me off ever watching any of the DisneyWars movies, so I am untroubled by the memory of them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And like most modern media they can't even explain what they were trying to do.
      It's the typical 60% finished product that they ship. There were some ideas in there, but they ran out of time, gave up, shipped. .... profit?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the main characters of the OT were ruined by the sequels, but that doesn't affect the wider Star Wars universe. characters expressing brainlet takes on philosophy can always be chalked up to in-universe personal opinion. saying that luke being emo retcons the jedi order into being wrong from its inception is bullshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, this is cope.
        You can't just project whatever is convenient for your suspension of disbelief into the actual portrayal of a character.
        Luke was portrayed as not just a nut, but riffing off of the OT hero he was, he was a cynic. He arrived at being a nut because of real problems with the Jedi order, that the movie insisted upon le artsy wise but didn't actually try to have the courage to explain.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that doesn't affect the wider Star Wars universe
        Right, totally destroying the New Republic doesn't affect anything. Shit.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ignored the chuds and make the Rian Johnson trilogy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So the sequel trilogy SUCKS.
      The whole "Chud haters ruined fandom" is literally just
      >corporate propaganda says the movie doesn't suck, but instead haters are just racists that don't like woke. Woke avengers assemble! Let's hate on them online and shit. Frick the movies we didn't even watch them or like them. Frick CHUDS!!!

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's like saying how do we save LoTR or Sherlock Holmes. Tolkien and Conan Doyle are dead. It's over. Everything else is just fan fiction. Lucas is dead too (figuratively). Let it be.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is quite simple you see. Release the KYLE KATARN ennealogy film series.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    at some point within the next year and a half, a tabletop actual-play podcast about primitive aliens using weird magic and hitting each other with rocks will be revealed to have been star wars the whole time, as the sith empire and old republic both land on the planet and try to figure out what the frick is going on.

    that's what im doing, at least. the best stuff is always 'here's a cool thing that's happening in the star wars universe, and it only kinda vaguely connects to everything else going on, don't worry about it'.

    dark forces 1? starts with 'death star plans uhhh yeah' and then does its own thing
    andor? just a fricking guy having space adventures and then 'oh also, check it out, uhhhh you know, rebel alliance or somethn'
    kotor? .....uhhhh did kotor start the whole concept of the time period it takes place in? i don't know. i don't know that much about starwars. only a moderate amount.

    if the new disney movies didn't care so fricking much about tying everything together and having all the old characters in them, they'd still be shit, but they'd be WAY better.

    just

    make stuff that is cool and also in star wars. stop trying to tie it in. it doesn't need to tie in, except for a little bit. a little nod and a wink. a little 'did you hear about this darth vader guy? crazy.' that's all you need to make it good. just worry about making the media good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just worry about making the media good.
      Checked and correct. Impossible under the current order of things, everything must be about maximum profits and tie-ins to other media.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yidsney will never sell it, I'm afraid there's no saving it.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are probably a million suggestions, but to me I only see two working out and I'm dead serious about that: You either offer your soul to Satan and see if you can land a critical god, like PTA directing a fricking Star Wars movie or something to that degree, then by happenstance actually end up making a new well-loved classic Star Wars film having minimal connections to the Disney period and move forward from there.

    Or, you milk all the stuff that's already out...the movies, all the shows, merchandise, games, comics whatever. Get and gather your money. Fine. As for any major motion pictures or shows moving forward? None. Let Star Wars collect dust and keep it in a dark cellar. Make people miss it and forgive it.

    Of course neither of these things will happen as it's too profitable a brand and their inability to let it stagnate in any way. Even for a second.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars is fine.

    In fifty years, the original 6 movies (sorry prequel seethers) are going to stand the test of time as hallowed Americana. Disney is going to continue to fumble with their ownership of the IP until it goes into public domain in 2072. Long before that point however, the public will regard the Disney contributions as -at best- apocrypha like the old EU or more likely a sad mostly-forgotten joke with minimal cultural impact.

    The fandom is harder to predict. It's likely that the cultists of today will all die off/move on but there's a chance that Star Wars will turn into one of those things that young boys have phases of obsession towards like how some boys get into cowboys or knights for a few years. Sometimes those phases never end and those kids grow up to larp at renaissance fairs. There's a possibility something similar could happen for Star Wars. In which case you will see people playing dress-up as Stormtroopers until the day you die.

    Every so often a filmmaker will produce a retelling of the original story like any other popular folk tale or classic story. Star Wars will be iterated upon ad nauseum and with variable quality like Frankenstein or Robin hood.

    The only major caveat to all this is where tech goes in the next couple decades. It seems increasingly likely that you will be able to prompt an AI tool to generate the entirety of Return of the Jedi with Ewoks replaced by Wookiees and Leia is a nudist. If that happens, there's no predicting anything let alone the fate of Star Wars.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In fifty years, the original 6 movies (sorry prequel seethers) are going to stand the test of time as hallowed Americana.
      No, the prequels won't. Phantom Menace is the only prequel that may stand the test of time the others are just millennial memes no more special than Transformers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have the necessary provenance and that is about all you need for them to be established as essential canon. Beyond that, while the execution is pretty mediocre at times, the themes and overall plot of them isn't without merit and is exactly the sort of shit that the auteurs of the far-future will LOVE to iterate on. So, yes, if I am right that Star Wars in general will be remembered for generations, the prequels will be included in that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Given the "special editions" of the OT, I honestly don't see the franchise surviving at all. Modern audiences watching the movies see the CGI shit show they've seen a million times before and wonder why anyone gives a shit about these movies. They don't even get to see the special effects that redefined movie-making and understand where these movies belong in the history of cinema.

        Disney could've released the theatrical cuts of the originals and laughed all the way to the bank from boomers and genxers giving them endless good will for "saving" the franchise. My literal only explanation for why they didn't is they thought it wouldn't be worth the money paying digital restorers and trying to hunt down original footage. And pure unadulterated contempt for the fan base.

        It's dead. Unless the theatricals of the OT are released, it will continue to feel like it was never alive in the first place.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are two Ewok movies. I even played a board game based on one.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >an AI tool to generate the entirety of Return of the Jedi with Ewoks replaced by Wookiees and Leia is a nudist
      I'd buy that for a dollar.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it can't

    George's story has to be completed with his oversight and 100% creative control. Look at the prequels. No one cares if it's 'bad', they're in for his story and seeing more. Allowing him to age out or die before it happens will create endless bad will. They could do other good or even great things in the sandbox, but they'd be contributing to that open wound.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hire Michael Bay

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s George’s story and he isn’t involved anymore so who cares. You are telling me you are hyped by corporate fanfic?

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    steal more shit from shakespeare and samurai/cowboy movies and make movie about something NEW other than the canonical roles of jedi, rebel, empire, criminal or bounty hunter. Just the fact that there are only two force religions in an entire galaxy is just ridiculous.

    Then there's the second issue, shit doesn't look like it should. I want 70's star wars. Not only props, but voices, cameras, faces, dialogue, music, the whole sensibility. I've said repeatedly that star wars has more in common with lawrence of arabia than it does with the prequels.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It needs to go on a long break.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is on one. Pay no mind to Disney churning out whatever the frick in the background, they are always doing that sort of shit. Such a racket they make.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Straight White male lead it's literally that simple

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate modern star wars as much as everyone else but if disney just sat down and made 2-3 good movies in a row they would have most of the fans back. But that’s not going to happen any time soon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is that they'd need to eat a loss at least once before anyone gave them the benefit of the doubt. The
      >It's been rough, but now star wars is saved!
      line has been used far too often by the various tv series for people to be fooled easily again.
      Maybe if they staged a public execution of all the staff at LF (literal or metaphorical would be fine by me) before a new push it might bypass that, but that's never going to happen either.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah you’re right. Disney and with it star wars and marvel is fricked for a long long time. They show no signs of improving any time soon so no point in wasting time and money on any of their releases for the next 5-6 years minimum

        It takes time to stop a ship this big at the speed they’re going

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One man, with one Vision.
    A fearless filmmaker.
    All he needs is a nice, juicy budget.
    Take the leap, Hollywood. He's your final hope.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At this point, if you want a good Star Wars trilogy, just play the Xenoblade series.
    >INB4 Weebshit
    That's all your getting pal, take it or leave it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly one of the worst opinions I've ever read on this website.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong board
      Only the first one was good.
      XB2 had waifus + soundtrack. That's it. Everything else is dogshit.
      XB3 was made for left-leaning söypoggers.
      X had the potential to be the best one, but its mission design, clunky dialogue, and unfinished semblance of a """story""" ruined it.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >George Lucas: [...] Then after the Rebels won, there were no more stormtroopers in my version of the third trilogy.

    >I had planned for the first trilogy to be about the father, the second trilogy to be about the son, and the third trilogy to be about the daughter and the grandchildren.

    >Episode VII, VIII, and IX would take ideas from what happened after the Iraq War. "Okay, you fought the war, you killed everybody, now what are you going to do?" Rebuilding afterwards is harder than starting a rebellion or fighting the war. When you win the war and you disband the opposing army, what do they do? The stormtroopers would be like Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist fighters that joined ISIS and kept on fighting. The stormtroopers refuse to give up when the Republic win.

    >They want to be stormtroopers forever, so they go to a far corner of the galaxy, start their own country and their own rebellion.

    >There's a power vacuum so gangsters, like the Hutts, are taking advantage of the situation, and there is chaos. The key person is Darth Maul, who had been resurrected in The Clone Wars cartoons—he brings all the gangs together.

    >Paul Duncan: Was Darth Maul the main villain?

    >George Lucas: Yeah, but he's very old, and we have two versions of him. One is with a set of cybernetic legs like a spider, and then later on he has metal legs and he was a little bit bigger, more of a superhero. We did all this in the animated series, he was in a bunch of episodes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in the comic books, as his apprentice. She was the new Darth Vader, and most of the action was with her. So these were the two main villains of the trilogy. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over.

      >The movies are about how Leia—I mean, who else is going to be the leader?—is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. That was the main story.

      >It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there's this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It'll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.

      >By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate Disney! Why won't Disney Die?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought Talon was Krayt's sidebitch.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This sounds pretty good honestly. I always liked the idea of using the third trilogy to be rebuilding the jedi order. But of course we got the exact opposite feel-bad subversive story.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (checked)

      >Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in the comic books, as his apprentice. She was the new Darth Vader, and most of the action was with her. So these were the two main villains of the trilogy. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over.

      >The movies are about how Leia—I mean, who else is going to be the leader?—is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. That was the main story.

      >It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there's this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It'll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.

      >By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.

      George-sama, I kneel.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in the comic books, as his apprentice. She was the new Darth Vader, and most of the action was with her. So these were the two main villains of the trilogy. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over.

      >The movies are about how Leia—I mean, who else is going to be the leader?—is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. That was the main story.

      >It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there's this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It'll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.

      >By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.

      This honestly sound like it would have been really good if they got good enough writers to execute it perfectly and take the ideas that work and leave out what doesn't. Frick Disney for robbing the world of what could have been an excellent trilogy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Disney deserves to Die!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know you made shit, Kathleen.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Disney will die!

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I like how you're aware you fricked up so badly that you don't even bother arguing against it because you know how moronic that would be.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Their own country. Their own Rebellion

      Big Boss had a dream. A land for soldiers to call home and a war without end.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >army with a nation
        Has been an idea since the Prussian Empire. Lucas probably was more trying to imply they were Nazis, though. Because the Nazis were consciously trying to emulate Prussia with how they treated militarism.
        I wouldn't be surprised if Kojima was making the same allusion in Metal Gear.
        >implying Lucas was subtle about the Nazi/fascist pretensions of the Empire

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >, there were no more stormtroopers in my version of the third trilogy.
      >>They want to be stormtroopers forever, so they go to a far corner of the galaxy, start their own country and their own rebellion.
      What a fricking hack

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in the comic books, as his apprentice. She was the new Darth Vader, and most of the action was with her. So these were the two main villains of the trilogy. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over.

      >The movies are about how Leia—I mean, who else is going to be the leader?—is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. That was the main story.

      >It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there's this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It'll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.

      >By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.

      Fricking kino. Not crazy about Maul returning or Leila being the chosen one, but other than that it sounds good. Way better than what Disney did

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    start over from scratch but 1000 years before anakin was born and dont circle jerk the jedi so much

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can’t cuz the Skywalkers are dead. Star Wars isn’t a sandbox to play around in, it is a family drama. Nobody cares about the other stuff. Anything not involving a Skywalker (i. e. a main saga movie) will make <600 million

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We need a holocaust

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can't, it's a product now, Gen Xers got their monkey paw wish, Galactic Civil war era stories, forever

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More Rey Rey

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bring Back George.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, but don't give him full reign. Use him as basically the idea man, and have professional screenwriters reel in the autism.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How can it be saved?
    Only one man can.

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's only one man that could save Star Wars if there is enough time.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fire everyone at Lucasfilm, hire competent writers, and make a new movie called "Star Wars Episode VII."

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can’t be saved, it’s pissing in the face of fans expecting them to swallow, I have tried to introduce the wars to my boys 6 and 8, zero interest in it and for the foreseeable, I’m not sure if little girls are watching it, but my boys ain’t biting, current generation is moronic

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go back in time.

    How to save Star Wars? Go back in time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can only travel forward in time via quantum strings, not backward. Time is only ever ambulating in one constant direction.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Re-Canonize the expanded universe, invite all the old authors back.
    Take a good 5 - 10 years from producing movies/tv shows.
    Fire all senior executives/producers at Lucasfilm (Kathleen Kennedy)
    Hire an actual writer-director to oversee long term projects.
    Not possible now, but get George Lucas to participate in the creative process.

    Basically everything they should've done from day one.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't. Star Wars came out at a time when Hollywood was relatively weak and looking for new ideas. Back then, SW was a new idea executed extremely well with state-of-the-art special FX and models through ILM. Lucas milked five more movies out of that then Disney bought it and milked another three. Lucas created the entire toy franchise model, and the entire background franchise concept that is central to all tentpole media enterprises now. After ten (10) movies, the public has finally had enough Star Wars. Disney flooded the market with cheap content and cannot remove that content, so consumers are just going to assume that any new star wars product is also cheap passable crap.

    Ironically, if Hollywood were to make big traditional epics again -the sorts of movies star wars replaced- they'd probably make a lot more money. But this would require hiring a lot of people, hiring new directors that can handle such films, and completely new custom sets. Hollywood won't make that investment, Disney certainly won't, so it's over.

    Hell, just look at how Disney killed Tron. Not exactly a great franchise but it has it's place and the sequel is widely agreed to be better than the original. Didn't meet expectations and not a franchise so killed off.

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How can it be saved?
    It already has been.

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With the mercy of ending

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    But only if Hollywood comes to an end

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Trek vs Star Wars. Just say frick it. Frick everything. Do it.

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By killing it.

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it cannot be saved they fricked up by pumping out too much low quality content its over anon move on with your life

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fire kennedy and filoni
    let it sit for 5 years
    hire some no name japanese director
    let him try something

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Easily.
    Stop hiring american actors and writters. Embrace animation as future of the fiction

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stop hiring american actors and writters.
      > Daisey Ridley is British, John Boyega is British, Domhall Gleeson is from Ireland, Andy Serkis is from the UK, Gareth Edwards is from the UK, Felicity Jones is English, Ben Mendelsohn is Australian, Donnie Yen is from Hong Kong, Mads Mikkelsen is Danish, Riz Ahmed is British, Diego Luna is Mexican, Toby Haynes is British, Susanna White is English, Emilia Clarke is British
      Are you professionally moronic or just a gifted amateur?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did you miss the last sentence?
        >Embrace animation as future of the fiction

        >Andy Serkis is from the UK, Gareth Edwards is from the UK, Felicity Jones is English
        So invite more proper anglos? Because Rogue One and Andor are actually nice to watch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do you distinguish the proper anglos from the improper ones?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Animation is the future

          It is not, nor has it ever been

          >but muh anime
          Still makes less money than hollywood.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Still makes less money than hollywood.
            Don't care, as i am not Disney shareholder.

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars was fricked from the very start, because the lessons George was trying to teach were all wrong.

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It starts with her.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      incredibased

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shin is the only reason i watched ahsoka

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          same. though sabine was also a qt.
          I'm deeply interested in seeing what happens to shin in S2

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that shit is actually getting a season 2?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes, it was confirmed a few weeks ago. then sabine's actress posted about it on her instagram

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That was only announced because Disney's earnings report is due 7th of Feb. After that 4 out of the 5 projects they've announced will get cancelled

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, I'm sure the pet project of the recently-promoted chief fricking creative officer of Lucasfilm will be cancelled. you're forgetting they're trying to MCU this shit together with the Mandalorian. it's not getting cancelled.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many times have they don this before? Yearly now since around 2020. They announce new projects so investors aren't so utterly pissed about how much of their money Disney has set on fire with DEI hires and politics pushing. Investors get appeased, then Disney will quietly cancel said projects.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm deeply interested in seeing what happens to shin in S2
            She will end up as another Ahsoka sidekick

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm actually hoping she ends up as a Sabine sidechick if you know what I mean

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    give it back to lucas, only he understands what it was supposed to be

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Delete disney canon (prequel canon would be great to delete, too, but we can't get too carried away).
    Make good movies with good characters and good stories.

    That's it.

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's no story anymore.
    The OT spawned countless EU storylines but everything from the current SW era is lame.
    Even if they try and reboot it, they won't let go of this "SW is about women now" ephipany they had.

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's pretty simple. Go back to telling an actual fricking story, and not just forcing politics into literally everything

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PT is literally a political drama
      >OT is a story of a rebellion against a fascist regime
      >le get politics out of my political sci-fi!!1!
      next you're gonna say casting black actors and women is political.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you are.... tremendously moronic. I am actually impressed that you can pass as a human who is more sentient than a dog or cat. Bravo

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not an argument. Either refute anything I said or frick off.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            haha no

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >not an argument
              its not 2016 /misc/ anymore you mentally ill Nazi

              I accept your concession, dismissed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                u gay lil homie

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >not an argument
            its not 2016 /misc/ anymore you mentally ill Nazi

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        obtuse moron

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boom! I was born to answer this.

    1) Reboot the prequel trilogy.
    Same premise and plot, but not shit.
    Ex.: The Force is a religion that people know and care about, and the Jedi are rarely seen saints of that religion. Or, just actually explain the Sifo-Dyas shit.
    Specific fixes are keep Maul until Episode 2 and make Sidious the big bad. Let that be the twist and betrayal. Have Palpatine be an independent force user that self-studied and learned dark side and he SUPPLANTS the rule of two. Vader turns for more compelling reasons then "muh Padme" and joins the rule of TWO, but then Palpatine defeats the rule of two and adopts Vader.
    Have this "too old to train" bullshit wiped. Make it so Anakin would have gone with Qui-Gon to train but since he died he never goes to Coruscant until he's older in Ep 2.
    Make Obi-wan the main character, and have the others at the periphery.

    2) Remake the Original Trilogy.
    Do Star Wars beat for beat, but with some Biggs lore.
    For Empire, more or less the same. Modern graphics. Same script really.
    For ROJ, it's just saving Han.

    3)Do Lucas's original plan of two sequel trilogies.
    For eps 7,8,9, have Vader lose his powers as Luke disappears.
    Vader teams up with Han&Leia - and he's not her fricking father anymore - and they reluctantly help a DEADLY CYBORG but force-less Vader do shit as frenemies. In Ep 8's epilogue he regains power and they find Luke.
    Ep 9 is a confrontation in which Vader is defeated.

    4)Final trilogy.
    Ep 10,11 do Kotor lore and shit. Luke rebuilds Jedi order while Palpatine builds a new order. Sith worshippers emerge, including Chiss and old half-Sith race, to help Luke because Palpatine is a blasphemer.
    Ep 12 is the Sanctuary moon of Had Abaddon, the original Imperial Capital. Palpatine has trapped Vader's force ghost inside an infernal machine, but Luke appeals to it reversing the shit that made Vader go dark side at the end of ep 2.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lucas's original plan of two sequel trilogies.
      Wait, what?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah the "sanctuary moon" was a script remnant. The second death star was to be built around the Imperial Capital. The moon of that city wide world was a "sanctuary" of forest.

        Lucas wanted Ep 6 to only be about rescuing Han.
        He planned TWO more trilogies. One to defeat Vader, then finally the Emperor.
        Luke ONLY becomes a Jedi at the end of ep 6.

        Then Lucas divorced and got depressed and mad people kept fixing his shitty scripts so he gave up and just put the fight the emperor thing at the end of ep 6.

        Again, the words "Sanctuary Moon" were already filmed when these changes were being actively made.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lucas decided to end things at 6 because kurtz went full moron with the budget on tesb and the banks were breathing down lucas' neck during production of that burnt him out

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but it worked.

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's my
    >TFA and TLJ happened, how do you save it?
    Plot.

    So it starts with Kylo captures in some torture force device. The "New Democratic Remnant" republic replacement conquers and re-inhabits a ruined Coruscant since JJ said the NR wasn't chilling there anymore.

    Rey confronts entrapped Kylo in the Jedi temple, in the dungeons.
    (Temple is built on Sith temple near dark site of power - canon).
    She releases him, to his surprise. She asks him to join her.
    Basically, she's like Anakin a child of the force. Except she was born of the rage and fear of people living under the old empire as industrial Dark Side left its mark.
    Kylo manages to flee.

    Cool and genuine "deep innards of Coruscant" shit. From mantle deep lava tunnels with creatures, droids and machines, to underworld sewers. It's a chase movie.

    Kylo escapes to some world where he finds Lando. Lando is basically a bodega owner, who finds Kylo in a drainage ditch.
    Kylo hallucinates Anakin/Vader. It alternates.

    Meanwhile, Captain Phasma is leading actually what's left of the First Order as more than half of it has defected to Rey. The good guys fight her, sort of realizing that Rey might be fricking pyscho and the bad guy.
    Something something, Snoke was Rey's puppet.
    He IS a clone, but they discover his cloning factory is a 10,000 pleasure planet, Solaria (Asimov reference) type deal. Basically Snoke doesn't matter. The clones were pleasure slave servants or something. Not powerful lords. Rey had found one and repurposed it. Exploited the corruption in the New Republic to build a phantom new empire from nothing.
    None of this empire remnant or operation bullshit stuff.
    The empire was defeated. It surrendered. Rey just exploited human corruption to rebuild one even though everyone hated the empire somehow.

    Kylo chills with Lando, who helps him confront Anakin/Vader and sort them out. Deal with Han shit.

    Kylo flees to Mustafar.The "good guys" now fight with Phasma against Rey's larger nuRepublic.
    1/2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they fight in Vader's castle.
      Cool scene where there's light and shadow (Samurai Jack reference). In light the ghost in Anakin, in shadow it's Vader. The ghost inhabits conflicted Kylo, he becomes its avatar.

      Rey is just evil itself.
      Yadda yadda evil is defeated. Ending is complicated. Galaxy imperfect.
      Lando's adopted daughter uses the force.
      >le you have the talents of your birth father.
      Bro Lando was watching Luke's daughter.
      Shadow in door.
      >I've come for my daughter.
      Camera cuts to bottom lengths of long, red hair.

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it hasn't really been damaged significantly outside of the sequels being extremely derivative rehashes.

    a lot of fans are angry that their favorite 2000s vidya and obscure literature are no longer canon, but the worldbuilding hasn't been fricked up to the point where new stories couldn't be made outside of the skywalker saga. disney has oversaturated the 67 year timespan between the phantom menace and the rise of skywalker.

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In all honesty, 40 years is a good run for the franchise and it's best to just let it go.

    To actually revive it, it would be best to shelve big-budget projects for a while and just go back to the EU books and games that kept autists entertained in the 15 year gap between 6 and 1. Ignore whatever the frick it is Disney did. And for god's sake, remember that the TONE of the story is meant to be like a myth. Almost like a mediaeval faery tale/Arthurian legend except set in space. It's Bildungsroman; the target audience is a 12 year old boy who is looking for some sort of aspirational goal and spiritual guidance in life. A capital M Man he can look up to, and a world he can imagine himself exploring and become a hero in. I would tell any prospective Star Wars writer to not even touch preexisting SW stories until after they have read a mountain of Mirrors for Princes and Victorian adventure novels to get an idea for narrative structure and writing, and then read another mountain of 1930s pulp fiction Westerns to get an idea for aesthetics and worldbuilding.

    Treasure Island and the Leatherstocking Tales should be on the shortlist for reference literature.

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let actual directors make a film and then let Steven Spielberg do an action sequence or two per film

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. Let Spielberg do the "character realizes they have power" scene. Then the "character overwhelms the bad guy" crescendo. but DON'T let him end the film.
      Spielberg also does great, "Meet our hero." shit.

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Grow fricking up. That the way.

  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Their number one problem is that they gave up on the sequels
    They keep hiding in the eras people like such as right after RotJ but haven't really done anything for the sequels. Look at this shit, there's only one sequel era show.
    The sequels may suck but it can't get any worse. Forget short term gain of trying to shove the Mandolorian down out throats and try to do something at the brand integrity. People may not like it at first, but it's your only option to move forward rather than stagnating with the brand as you slowly run out of legacy characters.

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1 - Decanonize anything that is't OT, og version only
    2 - Let it stay in the past

  84. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to go all the way back to Phantom Menace and make Obi-Wan a woman. That's the fix. Everything else just repairs itself right on up with that single change.

  85. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obvious out of the way
    >Fire KK
    >Fire Story Group
    >Fire Filoni
    Now to try to fix it.
    >New trilogy beginning in 2027. No new shows or movies until then.
    >Total new era of SW. Maybe Old Republic or something new and different while feeling like SW.
    >Films are only allowed 1 slight cameo of legacy character. Any other mentions will be in passing or in the background.
    >More edge. It's called Wars for a reason. Slight humor here and there but films will have gravity to them.
    >Make characters and vehicles that children and man-children will want to buy.
    >Bring back choregraphed lightsaber fights. No more flinging around a weighty stick like a moron like the last decade of sword battles from franchise.
    >No more desert planets. A strict ban.
    >Set pieces set in prequel planets to tie it into larger franchise.
    >Up video game production to have a steady stream of 2-3 licensed games every 1-2 years as movies release.
    >Bring back Lucas in an executive producer and story credit role.
    >Cast of unknowns
    And these are just off the top of my head. It goes to show how bad that company is festered with yes men and push overs that have no love or passion for what they are doing.

  86. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should have made it so that as the sequel trilogy goes on, Kylo slowly turns to the light side while Rey turns to the dark side. I 100% thought for sure that’s what they were going to do when I saw TFA for the first time but I was wrong. The only way to save it now is to retcon the sequels to never have happened with some time travel or alternate universe bullshit, and to restart the sequel trilogy again or just do Old Republic or KOTOR shit.

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    generate the entire thing with open AI

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can't be saved while Hollywood is still poisoned. They need all new leadership with people who actually care about the franchise rather than The Agenda. Absolutely nothing can be done until then. Just look at the Mandolorian, it was good but inevitably got corrupted like everything else

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they did us a favour

    rule of thumb: if it's got the Disney logo anywhere near it, avoid

    read the expanded universe novels and comics, that's real Star Wars.

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fire Kennedy and Filoni. Cancel everything and let it rest for a few years. Hire random directors (specifically Nolan) and have them do original movies, the one rule being they can’t touch anywhere near the skywalker era. Turn some of the Visions episodes into actual series, particularly episodes 1 and 3.

    Basically create an entirely new foundation for franchise.

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