How come Bojack Horseman got mocked for "grounded/relatively normal dialogue with cartoon characters!" but this gets a pass from everyone?

How come Bojack Horseman got mocked for "grounded/relatively normal dialogue with cartoon characters!" but this gets a pass from everyone?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's not about a sadsack actor from LA.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't give this shit a pass but I'm not going to interact with bad faith spammers to say so.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's actually funny and groundbreaking in a way that it is intrinsically tied to internet culture but not too overtly that it becomes too banal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because it’s funny
      yeah if you’re under the age of 5

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Name at least 5 five year-olds that watch this show.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you want the names of 5 five year olds?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Now that's what I call a Cinemaphilentrairian.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >groundbreaking
      Stopped readimg rigth there

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The two are not comparable.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because this is a direct answer to shows like NWBHG. Those shows trick you into thinking it's going to be funny talking animals but then it's Gen X malaise and existential depression. This show has candy colored main characters doing shit that doesn't make sense but dammit, they just want to make you smile. Mission accomplished.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NWBHG
      what the hell is that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Think, Anon.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I still don't get it. Explain it to me like you're moronic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NWBHG is an acronym for Normal Words But Horse Guy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anons’ obsession with incredibly obtuse acronyms and slang as a way to gatekeep newbies knows no bounds

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not an acronym, it's an initialism. An acronym is pronounced as if it were a word, like NASA, whereas an initialism is where the individual letters are pronounced, like DNA.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't pronounce NWBHG as Nwabahig
                Fricking newbies shiggy diggy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing to explain, he's just terminally online and trying to act like a forced meme is so ubiquitous that it's worthy of an acronym.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eceleb cartoon

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smiling friends is right wing and Cinemaphile has always been right wing

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Bojack Horseman (and Rick and Morty after the "Rick is le suicidal" episode) wants you to buy into the stupid melodrama and take it seriously.
    This show doesn't do that. It takes from the Seinfeld/Larry David mantra -No hugging, no learning-. There's no moments where the audience is legitimately meant to go "AWW".
    Once it does otherwise, I'm out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This show doesn't do that. It takes from the Seinfeld/Larry David mantra -No hugging, no learning-. There's no moments where the audience is legitimately meant to go "AWW".
      I don't remember any of this in Bojack

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Smiling Friends doesn't do that. It takes from the Seinfeld/Larry David mantra -No hugging, no learning-. There's no moments where the audience is legitimately meant to go "AWW".
      Uh, no, there's definitely moments that are intentionally heartwarming, like the ending of the Brother's Egg episode, Pim hugging Charlie after he gets resurrected in the Christmas episode, the Shrimp guy finding love, Mr. Boss reforming the Frowning Friends etc. Even if some of those moments get undermined by humor or violence, there's still a genuine heart to the show that's rare for an [as] comedy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how did so many people online convince themselves bojack was a serious drama when this is the same show where a sex robot becomes a billionaire CEO because everyone keeps misinterpreting his dirty talk as business advice

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SF is absurd and silly while the characters are grounded, Bojack is literally just Hollywood but animal people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically Family Guy did the parody well. People were just butt-hurt.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It just tries to be funny instead of being le existentialist depressed Hollywood sulking limousine liberal bullshit.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because this was made by animators not wannabe drama writers.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Boco

    Apparently its got something to do with simping for Youtube animators.

    Whoever they are.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop referring to tripgays by name.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Boco

        Just saying. I have no clue who any of these people are, and it makes watching the show much better.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Partly because Smiling Friends actually makes use of its medium and understands that it's a cartoon.
    Bojak has no value beyond its dialogue. Which is why no one actually posts visuals from the show, all of them look like crap.
    Hence, "Normal words but horse guy."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because Smiling Friends actually makes use of its medium and understands that it's a cartoon.

      What does this have to do with realistic dialog being a lame pass for a joke

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it’s funny to watch an exaggerated cartoon talk like a normal person

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it doesn't preach to the viewer with some pretentious insight or lesson. That's literally it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol
      Lmao
      >le video games are bad
      >le porn is le bad
      Frick off homosexual.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile would still like Rick & Morty and BoJack if it weren't for Szechuan Sauce and Normal Words let's be real

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Criticisms about Bojak stem a lot of from the tone of the show dragging on too long. It's not the kind of thing that needed 3 seasons.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because Bojack was always trying to act like it was this deep mature show that you should take seriously, when in the end it’s about rich people being sad oh boo who gives a shit. While smiling friends is about 2 wage slaves misadventures that isn’t suppose to be taken seriously at all.One is relatable and the other is pretentious.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when in the end it’s about rich people being sad oh boo who gives a shit.
      That's like saying wagies have never enjoyed The Great Gatsby or Anna Karenina lol. Just because characters aren't #relatable doesn't mean a show is bad
      >Bojack was always trying to act like it was this deep mature show that you should take seriously
      Did you watch the show? Be honest.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the other show is an Oscar bait show trying to win an Emmy with the veneer of being an adult comedy show (actually a tragicomedy) about its "realistic takes on the human condition". The show would be so utterly trite and at its worst pretentious if it weren't animated.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's here.. get the meds!

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How come Bojack Horseman got mocked for "grounded/relatively normal dialogue with cartoon characters!"
    It didn't really.
    An ancient shitty show made bad joke #8112317 and an autist started spamming it. The vast majority of people who watched the show don't care.
    In terms of comparing Bojack to Smiling Friends, SF is much wackier on average. Bojack has plenty of sincere moments whereas SF is much more ironic and silly, when it does try to be serious it falls flat.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smiling friends doesn't under cut its humor by trying to give you an emotional ballslap several times a season. The "normal words" used in smiling friends are usually just random character breaks to contrast the general absurdity.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's funny

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bojack: this character is toxic!!!! you must hate this character cause he is a fricking piece of shit with no redeemable qualities however we'll also make him relatable and ostracize the fanbase for finding him relatable in the slightest
    smiling friends: this character isn't necessarily bad they're just aimless and need some direction in life

    for the record i like both shows but this is the main difference for me. bojack writers seem to love deconstructing why their characters are shitty while smiling friends is about uplifting people and offering them advice

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because this doesn’t try to take itself seriously.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Other anons get it, it's Hollywood/LA bullshit that never tries to make Bojack relatable. The writers want you to feel sorry for a washed-up Hollywood actor, but you never feel sorry for him because he does unfunny moronic shit that only Hollywood people do. It's not escapism either, because who the hell wants to be a suicidal, depressed, washed-up Hollywood actor?

    Smiling Friends works because it's simple, episodic comedy that the audience can relate to- they're wagies living simple, comfy lives that play the straight man to the weird world around them. The spastic animation heavily contrasts the grounded dialogue for comedy- and that's all it needs to do. It's not complex.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    smiling friends is a fun cartoon
    bojack horseman is a room of writers inserting their real life stories into a boring cartoon
    one of the episodes is literally one of the writers coming out as a pedo

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    smiling friends isn't trying to be deep, push a narrative, or be depressing. The realistic conversations are funny here because the idea of wacky looking characters arguing like normal people is fricking hilarious.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How come Bojack Horseman got mocked for "grounded/relatively normal dialogue with cartoon characters!"
    Bojack never got mocked for that you're making shit up
    Bojack got mocked for being the super deep and serious sad horse show even though it's the same shit every season

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thats not what bojack was mocked for. Bojack got mocked for its boring melodrama and unlikable characters

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bojack has an actual plot that occasional realistic diatribes take away from. Jokes in that show tend to serve the story. SF is a much more gag driven show with a sillier tone where the realistic dialogue works to break up the wackier moments and contrast them. And I've never heard anyone really b***h about the normal sounding dialogue in Bojack aside from people on this board posting that single Family Guy joke.

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