It was over 20 years ago.
If you're still on about how shit a movie was 20 years ago that's the definition of bitter.
Can you imagine someone in 1977 when star wars came out arguing about how much they hated 12 angry men 20 years ago?
I'm not bitter about it. Calling it embarrassing is just a straightforward description because it's a terrible movie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your commenting on it 20 years later on fricking Cinemaphile in some random thread that for some reason drew you in.
Maybe have a moment of self reflection or something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay. Why are you in this thread? Because you think it's a good movie?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I liked the prequels for what they were, yes. I appreciate the kind of filmmaking Lucas does despite the flaws. Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series even when you consider the flaws, which all of them had, Hayden's acting was a lot better than Mark Hamill was in ANH.
A movie I was really disappointed with was the Conan the Barbarian Jason Momoa film, Conan is really up there for me in fiction and I was hoping for big things. I don't go seeking out threads to talk about how much I hated that film, I just forgot it exists and moved on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hayden's acting was a lot better than Mark Hamill was in ANH.
2 years ago
Anonymous
counter argument: the arnie conan has some of the worst acting ever from the main character and its a good movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series even when you consider the flaws
When you consider them, maybe. Not when I do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>random thread
It's a thread about one of the shittiest scenes in Attack of the Clones
Because of his size, age, and wisdom, Yoda was assumed to be a sage of the force itself. Like he was beyond lightsaber combat because he could use the force so eloquently.
And while even the canon dialog in Ep5 doesn't support this, I don't think anyone expected midget parkour
I am not the one seething at a movie because my assumptions were incorrect.
Headcanon is better than something that makes no sense. If Dooku was a huge Alien he would always win since Yodo can't beat that in a lightsaber fight. Size matters.
>Size matters
Little yoda would fricking rip apart anything bigger then him. How the frick are you going to deal with that little Black person? You won't he will cut you up with his flips while screaming.
Doku is not a huge fricking alien and is also a powerful Jedi. Dude is fast enough to just about survive the green screeching deathball.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If Doku were a huge alien he would kick his ass. Tiny wienertail sword lightsaber wouldn't hurt and flips are not more efficient. Yoda's fighting style would fail against any foe physically bigger than a human.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah he is too quick, can't catch the fricker if you are a huge alien.
2 years ago
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2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah lightsabers cut though anything mate, all your huge alien flesh is just gunna get sliced up. If you get into a fight with someone with a lightsaber they will frick you up if you get close.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Big guy also has one. Who's gonna win? Watch MMA and see the answer
2 years ago
Anonymous
The person who stabs first wins and Yoda is faster.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alien has more reach so speed is irrelevant. Yoda has to hit multiple times while big guy just needs to do it once. Yoda jobs
>Size matters
Little yoda would fricking rip apart anything bigger then him. How the frick are you going to deal with that little Black person? You won't he will cut you up with his flips while screaming.
Why does the Emperor call it "A Jedi's weapon" and "your Jedi weapon" in ROTJ then? Like he has no lightsaber of his own. Vader does, but he's the apprentice there, the fallen Jedi. The Emperor seems beyond such crude weapons as lightsabers the same way Obi-Wan and Vader are beyond blasters.
>The Emperor seems beyond such crude weapons as lightsabers
No? The Emperor is an old fricking man in Ep6 who waddles around because he is fricking old. That is not beyond Lightsabers that is being unable to fricking use them. The shitty >Muh beyond lightsaber
meme is the dumbest fricking shit ever. Only an utter fricking moron deprives themselves of a useful tool.
>No? The Emperor is an old fricking man in Ep6 who waddles around because he is fricking old.
So is Yoda, yet there he is
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah? Yoda can still use them in that movie so he still uses it. The next movie Sheev is still young enough to use them so he uses them.
You are the only one who is so moronic you think that you should not use a lightsaber to show off how cool you are? Such a childish conception.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh frick off. Yoda literally walks in slowly leaning on a walking stick then drops it when he starts doing flips, and picks it back up to start hobbling along again after the fight. You're telling me Yoda at 880 can do backflips but Yoda at 900 is just too old?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah he uses the force to do it.
Because it's the height of their power and they don't frickin do anything else. Just use a saber, move stuff or yourself, and shoot lightning. That's about it. The Dark Side? You can shoot lightning, and uh, be mean I guess. Yoda? Backflips a lot like the rest. Wow, great sage. It's shallow and just relies on the OT as its own limits. All that changes is they do more somersaults and use sabers faster.
What should they have done? Some boring gay wizard shit? Glad we got the prequels rather then whatever gay shit you would make.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What should they have done? Some boring gay wizard shit? Glad we got the prequels rather then whatever gay shit you would make. >dude sword fights and backflips lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dude sword fights and backflips lol
Yeah that was the good part of the prequels.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The duels in AOTC and ROTS mostly sucked. Never looked convincing like fights, just rehearsed baton routines with constant CG stunts. TPM had the only great one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Watch the movies again, your position is wrong.
Alien has more reach so speed is irrelevant. Yoda has to hit multiple times while big guy just needs to do it once. Yoda jobs
Alien stabs, yoda screeches and backflips into alien's arm because he is very fast, cut's arm off then screeches and backflips onto alien head, cuts head off. Yode wins.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>backflips into alien's arm
Yoda can't jump that high. Big Alien hits Yoda mid flight. Yoda loses 2 attack points. Roll again
2 years ago
Anonymous
Black person I actually will.
Frick, fine you win the argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yoda slides between big alien's legs, slices his legs and balls. Big alien drops to knees covering his lower half, Yoda jumps and climbs up and slices his neck.
Game's over. Bring your dice cups next week and don't forget to get your mobile phones from the basket.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yoda slides between big alien's legs, slices his legs and balls. Big alien drops to knees covering his lower half, Yoda jumps and climbs up and slices his neck.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Watch the movies again, your position is wrong.
No it isn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes it is. You just posted Keno.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>awkward, pointless CGI flip >Keno
2 years ago
Anonymous
>awkward
Smooth as frick. >pointless
It was used to attempt to find an opening in Windu's attacks.
K E N O
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Smooth as frick.
The shitty CG doesn't fit in at all with the scene. It's very noticeable. >It was used to attempt to find an opening in Windu's attacks.
You could remove it and it wouldn't take anything away from the duel.
Your blatant misspelling of kino doesn't out you at all as a prequel redditor by the way.
Marquand: The Emperor doesn’t have Jedi powers, does he?
Lucas: Well, he is like Yoda: Yoda isn’t a Jedi, the Emperor isn’t a Jedi. Yoda has mystical powers and it’s the same thing with the Emperor; he’s like the grand priest, but he’s not chief of the tribe. Jedi are the chiefs, they are the warriors who go out and fight with their swords. The Emperor and Yoda are the priests who are the spiritual chiefs; they have powers that are much stronger.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Where is the part where he says Yoda and Sheev can't use lightsabers?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.
Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?
Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock.
Lucas: It’s true, absolutely true, not that it makes any difference to the story.
Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?
Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.
Kasdan: I accept it, but I don’t like it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Where does Lucas say Yoda can't use a lightsaber?
The part where it contrasts them to warriors that "go out and fight with their swords." But here's another quote:
Marquand: They use it as a technique.
Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.
Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?
Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?
Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.
He says they avoid fighting with swords not that they can't use lightsabers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah, you're funposting. Enjoy (you)rself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you moronic? He says he wouldn't be good in a fight.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah Sheev beat him in a fight, with lightsabers, that they both used in the fight because it was practical to do so before fighting with the force.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The part where it contrasts them to warriors that "go out and fight with their swords." But here's another quote:
Marquand: They use it as a technique.
Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.
Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?
Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?
Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lucas pretty much lost whatever idea he had of the Force around the OT in the interim
2 years ago
Anonymous
This makes sense to me. I like it because it separates using the force from the jedi
Like the best sword fighter isn't on king arthur's round table. He's too mystic and esoteric for that shit
>Yoda was assumed to be a sage of the force itself
By Ben, a failure, and Luke, a guy who larps what he things* a jedi should be. Yoda was a blind fool whose order crumbled on his watch.
They get boring. The PT narrows down what being a Jedi or Sith apparently is to just "whatever you saw in the limited glimpses of the OT, but like, more?" What do you see there you didn't see in the OT? Nothing, apparently we saw the whole limit of the Force.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They get boring.
Nah >apparently we saw the whole limit of the Force.
Where did the movie show the whole limit of the force?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it's the height of their power and they don't frickin do anything else. Just use a saber, move stuff or yourself, and shoot lightning. That's about it. The Dark Side? You can shoot lightning, and uh, be mean I guess. Yoda? Backflips a lot like the rest. Wow, great sage. It's shallow and just relies on the OT as its own limits. All that changes is they do more somersaults and use sabers faster.
Yoda having a lightsaber doesn't make any sense when most of the people he fights are 10 times his size. Imagine having a sword fight with somebody 30 feet tall, you most likely would win.
>Why didn't yoda go help luke kill sheev if he was doing flips 20 years before
Because he died of old age. >why did yoda even die of old age?
Because he was old.
Did you expect the Emperor to use a lightsaber in RotJ? It's lame. Yoda and Palpatine were "above" using lightsabers, or so it felt to me watching those movies. Once I saw Palaptine shit lightning out all I could think was what cool things Yoda must have been able to do if he needed to.
Lucas said in an 80s interview that Yoda is basically a guru for the jedi, not a fighter, and he'd be no match for someone like Vader. But this was obviously influenced by the fact a puppet could never put on a good fight scene. So when the technology to make a Yoda CGI animation later became available, Lucas obviously changed his mind.
How is this moronic? It's pretty fricking obvious.
The crowd loved it. Audiences loved it. Don't let Reddit and RLM spread this misinformation that the prequels were bad. They weren't. Everyone loved the prequels on release. It wasn't until RLM made their meme videos and Disney shills rewrote the narrative to get people excited for the Sequels.
It was awesome, but stupid at the same time. older Star Wars fans used to use the scene to ridicule the prequels, because they didn't like seeing Yoda actually fight.
There’s actually a lot of speculation that anakin was gay. For starters, when someone lashes out violently it’s usually a sign of not knowing how to manage emotions and feelings toward the same gender.
I actually went to go see this movie with count dookoo. It wasnt the premier. He was my boyfriends uncle and he didnt care about going but he had to be our chaparone for our first date. My boyfriend never showed up. It was an e-date through ok cupid. I had never met him and he broke up with me afterwards and then ghosted me. His uncle was nice. He told me about his experiences filming the movie. Except he did it during the movie which was annoying and people were giving us weird looks. When Yoda came out he said he had to "get me ready" and started fidgeting with my belt. He was tugging on his belt and my belt at the same time and joke laughing saying that we were dueling light sabers. I was confused (cause yoda hadnt taken his lightsaber out yet. But when yoda took it out he looked at me and said "Anything you wanna take out, boy?" I said no. When we left he let me get a refill of my large popcorn and we ate in his car while sitting in the AC of his car and listening to talk radio. I ended up walking home. He said he left his gas card at Obi Wan's house. That was the last time I saw him
The crowd loved it. Audiences loved it. Don't let Reddit and RLM spread this misinformation that the prequels were bad. They weren't. Everyone loved the prequels on release. It wasn't until RLM made their meme videos and Disney shills rewrote the narrative to get people excited for the Sequels.
There's literally footage of the people at the premiere. Some love it, some are very mixed on it, some are in blatant denial (like "Uh it wasn't exactly what I expected but I'll see it again of course"), some hate it.
Anyone who tries to claim they were not heavily criticized on release is straight up lying and likely wasn't even alive when they came out. "George Lucas raped my childhood" was a meme South Park eventually mocked for a reason.
it's very similar to the hobbit, the first one wasn't received too badly but they were all filmed at the same time so none of the problems got corrected and now people remember all the movies being hated
First Hobbit was relatively well received, but definitely a bit tepid in comparison. More that there were pretty obvious problems and it wasn't quite the same as the LOTR trilogy. But relatively positive I guess. Not as mixed as TPM, but the trilogy definitely got worse and worse in reception until the downright crap third film. I'm sure there will be some revisionist history to a degree with some people who saw them as kids claiming in 5+ years they were all beloved on release, but not as much as the PT because the Hobbit trilogy is frankly a bit forgotten, probably because Star Wars is such an omnipresent franchise while LOTR has been dormant until this upcoming TV show.
Anyway, the criticisms of the Hobbit films are actually very similar to the prequels. Overuse of CG and digital backgrounds, weightless cartoony action, dragged out plots, wastes of a good ensemble cast, weak villains, a bad romance plot, overreliant on referencing or recreating their OT, etc.
>There's literally footage of the people at the premiere
I was talking about during the screening, which obviously wasn't filmed. Red carpet reactions are different.
This is a really bad metric to use. There's a lot of mediocre movies that are vastly improved with a fun audience but they're still bad. Something can be entertaining for a few minutes but hurt the movie overall.
people were very happy, same with Episode I. In fact, I only see hate for the prequels online, every stranger I talked to in real life thought the movies were ok to awesome whenever I talked to them about those
I liked the prequels for what they were, yes. I appreciate the kind of filmmaking Lucas does despite the flaws. Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series even when you consider the flaws, which all of them had, Hayden's acting was a lot better than Mark Hamill was in ANH.
A movie I was really disappointed with was the Conan the Barbarian Jason Momoa film, Conan is really up there for me in fiction and I was hoping for big things. I don't go seeking out threads to talk about how much I hated that film, I just forgot it exists and moved on.
>Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series
Ah, a man with truly patrician tastes. Cheers, friend.
I thought it was fricking moronic and I was like 14 at the time. A zero-stakes fight with a dumb looking CGI midget doing flips and shit. Star Wars "fans" genuinely must be like 75 IQ on average.
My friends and I laughed about it after. Made fun of his flips and his moronic scream. We also made fun of the "OBI-WAN'S JEALOUS!!!" scene where Padmé looks annoyed as frick
I didn't see 2 or 3 in the theaters after watching TPM. Not like I hated TPM or anything; I just had no interest in what was gonna happen really, despite consuming a ton of apocryphal material like the books and games, and buying a ton of figures.
I saw it at the midnight premier and people lost their shit. It was a pretty quiet showing up until then too. Marvel movies wish they could get that kind of organic nerd mic drop moment. One of the best times I've ever had in a theater.
I think I remember a cheering theater, but the consensus was after the hype died down that it was a worse movie overall than the first. The only defender that I really knew of it was my dad, and he said it was setting everything up for the last movie to be action packed. Son of a b***h was right but generally it took a lot of the hype out of the third film much like Last Jedi did. Teenagers and modern day prequel haters all thought lightsaber Yoda was cringe and I do too honestly, but I do like Ep. 3 a lot
I believe that most people who shit on the prequels are fading away with time, trek nerds and OT absolutist. Or, it's the people who believe they have a superior taste in artforms. So, douchebags, basically.
>if you do anything other than obsess over these poorly made fantasy films from 20 years ago you're a big jerk and also invalid
Way to make yourself immune to any kind of criticism.
It's made for children ages 5 - 13.
That's who Lucas would market his toys and merch to. >Like all scifi.
2001: A Space Odyssey and Star Trek aren't made for children.
All movies can be watched by children, doesn't mean that they understand or are actually invested in all of them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prequels are made for the millennial demographic when they were adolescent.
2 years ago
Anonymous
When watching a film, it is required of you to suspend disbelief, like a child would. That in itself makes it inherently infantile. Which I'm sure bothers you somewhat, as your type is quite concerned with their own ego and idea of adulthood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It seems like you have a subconscious need for children anon, you should take meds. Also, you just described 80% of scifi.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are you even tying to say here? That the desire to reproduce is ingrained in people?
Your attempts at snide remarks are as incompetent as your takes. >Also, you just described 80% of scifi.
Try 100% of fiction.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So, you just hate fiction then? in general. Got it. The entirety of film making if it is not based in historical fact is childish, according to trek anon #5.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't. I'm not "trek anon", rather, I was arguing with trek anon about why I think the whole seething about roller coaster movies is a bit pointless. In fact, it's about as mature as seething about roller coasters themselves being a thing, to out it into perspective.
But I digress. Everyone is free to like what they like, it's just kind of funny when "adults" start posturing that their 15% more complex media is somehow not a hollywood product for consoomers backed by a billion dollar studio.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd like to hear your argument as to how suspending your disbelief is infantile. A good writer can write a story that is inherently believable, as long as the world makes sense, and when it comes to films, if the direction is well done.
Most (good) films require the viewer to have a certain amount of knowledge to ponder a certain idea or message, and relate it to real life.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because you're being asked to engage in make believe, anon. Mind you, I'm not the one obsessed with being as """adult""" as I can possibly be, because the very thought of such posturing is embarassing to me.
But film IS an illusion, fiction especially, but even documentaries to some lesser extent.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even if something is make believe, it can still be written in a way that everything has an order to it and it is still believable, almost like it COULD exist.
Humans also naturally enjoy doing things that distract and relieve us from the stresses of the real world, this isn't something that is infantile. Children watch movies and shows to be amused by the bright colors and funny characters. While most adults watch things to take a break from things and invest their minds into something else.
Having a story focused on politics while showing women in skimpy outfits is not for children, it's for adolescent males. The profitable demo for all scifi. If you do not see this then I can not help you.
People went ape shit all 5 times I saw this in theaters. There were no moments like this in the sequel trilogy that I can recall, though only saw Force Awakens 2wice, last jedi 1nce, and only saw rise of skyke once, my friend pirated for us. I heard the audience mostly respond with groans, and " are you kidding me?", heard even a black guy go "for real?" When Chewie walked past Leia at the end to go check on Token in force awakens. These are movies clearly for women and trannies now and the kids they're raising and teaching in schools across this 'woke world'
People went nuts and screamed. It was a great time to be alive. All the kids were talking about it in the cafeteria reenacting it and getting in trouble
Nice, so what is your problem with the sequels then? You are too highbrow for starwars right? yet you spend your day shitting on it and checking in on the threads?
I don't mind people enjoying them. I grew up with them myself, and seeing TPM in theaters is one of my earliest theater memories. I have a lot of nostalgia for TPM and all the merchandise/promo surrounding it. I still think the prequels are bad films, though.
Yeah, they are not the greatest. I do not think they deserve the hate they receive most of the time though. The sequels achieved what they were meant to do, bring families and people together. A better time than the soulless garbage that is constantly pumped out today. They should get praise for that alone in my opinion. It's the same for the OT. It may be somewhat infantile, however, it is still a beacon, and people hate it for this reason. I'm pretty sure this is why Disney wants to destroy it as well.
>Yoda appears
Cheering and clapping
Yoda draws his saber >louder "oh shit" cheering clapping >Yoda fights like a cat chasing a laser pointer
Half cheering and laughter that died off halfway through
Unironically, and I'm not lying, applause that evolved into fairly rowdy cheering when he started flipping and jumping all over the place. And before you ask, the theater was in a predominantly white town I lived in
when i saw it in a packed IMAX theater in DC everyone loved it. when it finally came out on dvd, after the initial watch, i watched some of the fight scenes over and over. this one was just cool. not sorry. yoda hippity hopping all over the place was kino as frick. his fight with palpatine in the senate building in rots is also great. anyone who says it wasnt is a homosexual/troony/moron. sorry not sorry.
Cant tell if these prequal gays are unironic. Even as a kid watching all the dvds I natturaly gravitated to the OG Trilogy without even knowing it. Even with all my darth maul and grievous toys. They were just better in every way.
People generally enjoyed this part when it came out. It wasn't until the fun police said it doesn't make sense that a Jedi master could use the Force to enable him to fight did people start saying this is the worst duel.
First time I watched it I was in disbelief of how awkward the entire fight was. I came in watching TOS many times as a kid and enjoyed the slow determined fight scenes. Then I watch this as a teen and I thought it was choreographed by a coke addict.
Every time I give the prequels a chance every yoda fight scene disappoints
>I came in watching TOS many times as a kid and enjoyed the slow determined fight scenes. Then I watch this as a teen and I thought it was choreographed by a coke addict.
bruh the only fights we saw in the OT were:
1) old man vs crippled old man with robot limbs.
2) crippled old man with robot limbs vs untrained boy.
3) crippled old man with robot limbs vs slightly less untrained boy where an even older man cast lightning bolt one time.
everyone *i* knew was ecstatic to finally see jedi "in their prime", trained their whole life. the prequels gave us that.
Honestly, up until that point, there were no wow moments like in the original series. Yoda going insane finally introduced one, even though it was cgi.
Of course, that was the wirefu video game influence, good riddance in the sequels.
Absolute awe. People thought Mace Windu was going to come around that corner. When it turned out to be Yoda, it was excited confusion. Then the force fight was awesome. Then seeing the lightsaber come out was absolute holy shit this rocks.
Until that very moment, no one even imagined that Yoda could so much as walk without a cane. Now that it's not new, the fight doesn't hold up great. But at the time, the mere revelation of it was mind blowing.
i was roughly, i dunno...15 when this film came out? and i distinctly remember other kids telling me "HOW FRICKING AWESOME!!!" yoda's fight scene was. like, these kids were pissing and shitting themselves at how amazing yoda's moves were. and to be honest, when i first saw it a little piss and shit came out too...but deep down i knew something was wrong. and with ever successive rewatch i began to realize how utterly stupid and awful and canon-destroying the scene was. now the whole thing looks like moronic blue screen video game shit and i balk at all of the prequels for how terrible they are.
i recently watched all 6 films are here are my ratings:
ANH: 10/10 - sci-fi/adventure perfection. absolute miracle this film was made in 1977
EST: 10/10 - the perfect sequel.
ROTJ: 7/10 - everything is incredible up until the ewoks. i loved them as a kid but as an adult must admit that they really do (almost) ruin the film. everything else about the film is amazing but as soon as they appear they kill the vibe. the blue screen speeder bike chases through the forest also look terrible
TPM: 5/10 its terrible ps1-tier graphics and a lot of stupid shit happens, but there's also some good stuff. watchable
AOTC: 2/10 - goofier than TPM. shit gets real stupid at the end
ROTS: 1/10 - even goofier now, terrible/stupid ending. NOOOOOOOO, etc. die die die
tepid applause on his arrival followed by embarrassment
Reasonable. It's an embarrassing scene in an embarrassing movie.
>embarrassing post in an embarrassing thread
No you're just a bitter scrooge.
>bitter
Bitter about what? It's a shit movie.
It was over 20 years ago.
If you're still on about how shit a movie was 20 years ago that's the definition of bitter.
Can you imagine someone in 1977 when star wars came out arguing about how much they hated 12 angry men 20 years ago?
I'm not bitter about it. Calling it embarrassing is just a straightforward description because it's a terrible movie.
Your commenting on it 20 years later on fricking Cinemaphile in some random thread that for some reason drew you in.
Maybe have a moment of self reflection or something.
Okay. Why are you in this thread? Because you think it's a good movie?
I liked the prequels for what they were, yes. I appreciate the kind of filmmaking Lucas does despite the flaws. Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series even when you consider the flaws, which all of them had, Hayden's acting was a lot better than Mark Hamill was in ANH.
A movie I was really disappointed with was the Conan the Barbarian Jason Momoa film, Conan is really up there for me in fiction and I was hoping for big things. I don't go seeking out threads to talk about how much I hated that film, I just forgot it exists and moved on.
>Hayden's acting was a lot better than Mark Hamill was in ANH.
counter argument: the arnie conan has some of the worst acting ever from the main character and its a good movie
>Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series even when you consider the flaws
When you consider them, maybe. Not when I do.
>random thread
It's a thread about one of the shittiest scenes in Attack of the Clones
>Cinemaphile banners
Hey newbie these are gay and no one on this site likes or uses them. next guy won't be so nice about it.
literally the only interesting thing to happen in the movie
That doesn't reflect well on the film.
What about the Obi Wan parts
>embarrassment
really? i remember the crowd going nuts when they started fighting
I don't get "Yoda shouldn't have a lightsaber" gays, it's part of being a Jedi.
Dumb prequeltroon.
Because of his size, age, and wisdom, Yoda was assumed to be a sage of the force itself. Like he was beyond lightsaber combat because he could use the force so eloquently.
And while even the canon dialog in Ep5 doesn't support this, I don't think anyone expected midget parkour
>Had a moronic headcannon.
>Mad when wrong.
I was 8. What's your excuse for being moronic right now?
I am not the one seething at a movie because my assumptions were incorrect.
He's 8 now
Headcanon is better than something that makes no sense. If Dooku was a huge Alien he would always win since Yodo can't beat that in a lightsaber fight. Size matters.
>Size matters.
Yoda disagrees.
Yoda is wrong since he would get his shit kicked by a huge Alien that would step on him.
>Size matters
Little yoda would fricking rip apart anything bigger then him. How the frick are you going to deal with that little Black person? You won't he will cut you up with his flips while screaming.
>flips
Yoda struggled with Doku.
Doku is not a huge fricking alien and is also a powerful Jedi. Dude is fast enough to just about survive the green screeching deathball.
If Doku were a huge alien he would kick his ass. Tiny wienertail sword lightsaber wouldn't hurt and flips are not more efficient. Yoda's fighting style would fail against any foe physically bigger than a human.
Nah he is too quick, can't catch the fricker if you are a huge alien.
Yeah lightsabers cut though anything mate, all your huge alien flesh is just gunna get sliced up. If you get into a fight with someone with a lightsaber they will frick you up if you get close.
Big guy also has one. Who's gonna win? Watch MMA and see the answer
The person who stabs first wins and Yoda is faster.
Alien has more reach so speed is irrelevant. Yoda has to hit multiple times while big guy just needs to do it once. Yoda jobs
Zoomer meme
Why does the Emperor call it "A Jedi's weapon" and "your Jedi weapon" in ROTJ then? Like he has no lightsaber of his own. Vader does, but he's the apprentice there, the fallen Jedi. The Emperor seems beyond such crude weapons as lightsabers the same way Obi-Wan and Vader are beyond blasters.
>The Emperor seems beyond such crude weapons as lightsabers
No? The Emperor is an old fricking man in Ep6 who waddles around because he is fricking old. That is not beyond Lightsabers that is being unable to fricking use them. The shitty
>Muh beyond lightsaber
meme is the dumbest fricking shit ever. Only an utter fricking moron deprives themselves of a useful tool.
>No? The Emperor is an old fricking man in Ep6 who waddles around because he is fricking old.
So is Yoda, yet there he is
Yeah? Yoda can still use them in that movie so he still uses it. The next movie Sheev is still young enough to use them so he uses them.
You are the only one who is so moronic you think that you should not use a lightsaber to show off how cool you are? Such a childish conception.
Oh frick off. Yoda literally walks in slowly leaning on a walking stick then drops it when he starts doing flips, and picks it back up to start hobbling along again after the fight. You're telling me Yoda at 880 can do backflips but Yoda at 900 is just too old?
Yeah he uses the force to do it.
What should they have done? Some boring gay wizard shit? Glad we got the prequels rather then whatever gay shit you would make.
>What should they have done? Some boring gay wizard shit? Glad we got the prequels rather then whatever gay shit you would make.
>dude sword fights and backflips lol
>dude sword fights and backflips lol
Yeah that was the good part of the prequels.
The duels in AOTC and ROTS mostly sucked. Never looked convincing like fights, just rehearsed baton routines with constant CG stunts. TPM had the only great one.
Watch the movies again, your position is wrong.
Alien stabs, yoda screeches and backflips into alien's arm because he is very fast, cut's arm off then screeches and backflips onto alien head, cuts head off. Yode wins.
>backflips into alien's arm
Yoda can't jump that high. Big Alien hits Yoda mid flight. Yoda loses 2 attack points. Roll again
Black person I actually will.
Frick, fine you win the argument.
Game's over. Bring your dice cups next week and don't forget to get your mobile phones from the basket.
Yoda slides between big alien's legs, slices his legs and balls. Big alien drops to knees covering his lower half, Yoda jumps and climbs up and slices his neck.
>Watch the movies again, your position is wrong.
No it isn't.
Yes it is. You just posted Keno.
>awkward, pointless CGI flip
>Keno
>awkward
Smooth as frick.
>pointless
It was used to attempt to find an opening in Windu's attacks.
K E N O
>Smooth as frick.
The shitty CG doesn't fit in at all with the scene. It's very noticeable.
>It was used to attempt to find an opening in Windu's attacks.
You could remove it and it wouldn't take anything away from the duel.
Your blatant misspelling of kino doesn't out you at all as a prequel redditor by the way.
Marquand: The Emperor doesn’t have Jedi powers, does he?
Lucas: Well, he is like Yoda: Yoda isn’t a Jedi, the Emperor isn’t a Jedi. Yoda has mystical powers and it’s the same thing with the Emperor; he’s like the grand priest, but he’s not chief of the tribe. Jedi are the chiefs, they are the warriors who go out and fight with their swords. The Emperor and Yoda are the priests who are the spiritual chiefs; they have powers that are much stronger.
Where is the part where he says Yoda and Sheev can't use lightsabers?
Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.
Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?
Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock.
Lucas: It’s true, absolutely true, not that it makes any difference to the story.
Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?
Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.
Kasdan: I accept it, but I don’t like it.
Where does Lucas say Yoda can't use a lightsaber?
He says they avoid fighting with swords not that they can't use lightsabers.
Ah, you're funposting. Enjoy (you)rself.
Are you moronic? He says he wouldn't be good in a fight.
Yeah Sheev beat him in a fight, with lightsabers, that they both used in the fight because it was practical to do so before fighting with the force.
The part where it contrasts them to warriors that "go out and fight with their swords." But here's another quote:
Marquand: They use it as a technique.
Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.
Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?
Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?
Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.
Lucas pretty much lost whatever idea he had of the Force around the OT in the interim
This makes sense to me. I like it because it separates using the force from the jedi
Like the best sword fighter isn't on king arthur's round table. He's too mystic and esoteric for that shit
This defines the entirety of Gen x
Size matters not
Gen X fanon.
>Yoda was assumed to be a sage of the force itself
By Ben, a failure, and Luke, a guy who larps what he things* a jedi should be. Yoda was a blind fool whose order crumbled on his watch.
This post makes zoomers and homosexual millennials seethe.
You will be dead in 10-20 years.
.t
Lucas changed his mind obviously, but he didn't think Yoda should have one either when he made the OT. So it seems a pretty reasonable stance.
>Heh, wars not make one great
to
>This weapon is your life!
What changed, Lucas?
Obi wan was a shitty teacher. This was always fact.
>Different people.
>Different idea
>Different era
Except the PT, especially AOTC, revolve around LIGHTSABERS, LIGHTSABERS, MORE LIGHTSABERS.
Yeah it's the height of the Jedi so there are lot's of Jedi weapons around. What is your point?
They get boring. The PT narrows down what being a Jedi or Sith apparently is to just "whatever you saw in the limited glimpses of the OT, but like, more?" What do you see there you didn't see in the OT? Nothing, apparently we saw the whole limit of the Force.
>They get boring.
Nah
>apparently we saw the whole limit of the Force.
Where did the movie show the whole limit of the force?
Because it's the height of their power and they don't frickin do anything else. Just use a saber, move stuff or yourself, and shoot lightning. That's about it. The Dark Side? You can shoot lightning, and uh, be mean I guess. Yoda? Backflips a lot like the rest. Wow, great sage. It's shallow and just relies on the OT as its own limits. All that changes is they do more somersaults and use sabers faster.
FORCE SPEED
Yoda having a lightsaber doesn't make any sense when most of the people he fights are 10 times his size. Imagine having a sword fight with somebody 30 feet tall, you most likely would win.
he's like the belfry guardians in Dark Souls 2 who are midgets but hit really hard and your horizontal sword swings can miss with some weapons
>Prequelgays think video games are realistic and should be taken seriously
Oh no oh no oh no no no no no!
I just don't want to see people argue for either case with logic.
I know I don't like lightsaber yoda aesthetically. So I wouldn't put it in a starwars movie.
>The masters should have the same tactics as the goons
Nah.
basically boomers watched the OT and invented a ton of headcanon in their imagination as children and got mad when george lucas contradicted it
Why didn't yoda go help luke kill sheev if he was doing flips 20 years before, why did yoda even die of old age?
>Why didn't yoda go help luke kill sheev if he was doing flips 20 years before
Because he died of old age.
>why did yoda even die of old age?
Because he was old.
A friend of mine is fine with Yoda having a lightsaber but hates that Palpatine has one. These people are incorrigible.
Did you expect the Emperor to use a lightsaber in RotJ? It's lame. Yoda and Palpatine were "above" using lightsabers, or so it felt to me watching those movies. Once I saw Palaptine shit lightning out all I could think was what cool things Yoda must have been able to do if he needed to.
Nah, he just pulled out a lightsaber.
Lucas said in an 80s interview that Yoda is basically a guru for the jedi, not a fighter, and he'd be no match for someone like Vader. But this was obviously influenced by the fact a puppet could never put on a good fight scene. So when the technology to make a Yoda CGI animation later became available, Lucas obviously changed his mind.
People were quiet because it is impolite to make noise when you are watching a movie with other people. Only blacks and mutts clap during movies.
This is the reason I can't watch movies when in America. There is constant fricking noise and clapping that makes dialogue almost impossible to hear.
Based.
How is this moronic? It's pretty fricking obvious.
Prequels are garbage and RLM are 100% correct.
RLM are bitter nihilist Gen Xers whose entire lives revolve around and were shaped by movie and television franchises. Frick those homosexuals.
Seething.
Remember to hand in your Valmet at the nearest RCMP office, Cho Cheng
Flick sucked donkey dick. Get over it.
It was awesome, but stupid at the same time. older Star Wars fans used to use the scene to ridicule the prequels, because they didn't like seeing Yoda actually fight.
>WHO DA MAN?
>YODA MAN!
There’s actually a lot of speculation that anakin was gay. For starters, when someone lashes out violently it’s usually a sign of not knowing how to manage emotions and feelings toward the same gender.
Funny you mention it. This is the oldest memory i have of a cinema crowd going wild
I actually went to go see this movie with count dookoo. It wasnt the premier. He was my boyfriends uncle and he didnt care about going but he had to be our chaparone for our first date. My boyfriend never showed up. It was an e-date through ok cupid. I had never met him and he broke up with me afterwards and then ghosted me. His uncle was nice. He told me about his experiences filming the movie. Except he did it during the movie which was annoying and people were giving us weird looks. When Yoda came out he said he had to "get me ready" and started fidgeting with my belt. He was tugging on his belt and my belt at the same time and joke laughing saying that we were dueling light sabers. I was confused (cause yoda hadnt taken his lightsaber out yet. But when yoda took it out he looked at me and said "Anything you wanna take out, boy?" I said no. When we left he let me get a refill of my large popcorn and we ate in his car while sitting in the AC of his car and listening to talk radio. I ended up walking home. He said he left his gas card at Obi Wan's house. That was the last time I saw him
I don’t know why but the uncle was kind of based.
>he was a good friend
anon, were you diddled by Chistopher Lee?
it's bad and stupid and i hate it.
It's so bad.
when he went back to old man mode after the fight my dad started laughing really hard
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
literally just slice his ankles in half
It's just too much
>That CG head on the stunt man
>the obvious switch back to old man Lee at the end
>um this is actually kino because it references a film I never watched
The crowd loved it. Audiences loved it. Don't let Reddit and RLM spread this misinformation that the prequels were bad. They weren't. Everyone loved the prequels on release. It wasn't until RLM made their meme videos and Disney shills rewrote the narrative to get people excited for the Sequels.
You were not born when they came out, your post has become more of a lame and cliché meme than anything.
The actor who did the voice for Darth Maul attended the premiere of TPM and said people were in shcok at how bad it was. At the fricking premiere.
Cool it with your revisionist bullshit.
There's literally footage of the people at the premiere. Some love it, some are very mixed on it, some are in blatant denial (like "Uh it wasn't exactly what I expected but I'll see it again of course"), some hate it.
Anyone who tries to claim they were not heavily criticized on release is straight up lying and likely wasn't even alive when they came out. "George Lucas raped my childhood" was a meme South Park eventually mocked for a reason.
it's very similar to the hobbit, the first one wasn't received too badly but they were all filmed at the same time so none of the problems got corrected and now people remember all the movies being hated
First Hobbit was relatively well received, but definitely a bit tepid in comparison. More that there were pretty obvious problems and it wasn't quite the same as the LOTR trilogy. But relatively positive I guess. Not as mixed as TPM, but the trilogy definitely got worse and worse in reception until the downright crap third film. I'm sure there will be some revisionist history to a degree with some people who saw them as kids claiming in 5+ years they were all beloved on release, but not as much as the PT because the Hobbit trilogy is frankly a bit forgotten, probably because Star Wars is such an omnipresent franchise while LOTR has been dormant until this upcoming TV show.
Anyway, the criticisms of the Hobbit films are actually very similar to the prequels. Overuse of CG and digital backgrounds, weightless cartoony action, dragged out plots, wastes of a good ensemble cast, weak villains, a bad romance plot, overreliant on referencing or recreating their OT, etc.
>There's literally footage of the people at the premiere
I was talking about during the screening, which obviously wasn't filmed. Red carpet reactions are different.
Prequels received plenty of criticism when they came out. Plenty of people loved them and plenty did not. RLM are salty old homosexual gen x'ers.
>The crowd loved it. Audiences loved it.
This is a really bad metric to use. There's a lot of mediocre movies that are vastly improved with a fun audience but they're still bad. Something can be entertaining for a few minutes but hurt the movie overall.
we were fricking babies or not even born yet, GTFO Cinemaphile you limp-dicked old grandpas
I was in college
No they didn't.
ITT boomer manchildren seething at based george
>I remember people cheering loudly and going insane.
Nuke Am*rica.
Movie was doing so poorly, they used the spider-man commercial and advertised this moment. Yoda flies became a morning show joke.
people were very happy, same with Episode I. In fact, I only see hate for the prequels online, every stranger I talked to in real life thought the movies were ok to awesome whenever I talked to them about those
>the vast majority of people are plebs and the vast majority of internet users are bitter nerds
Oh wow we can surely use these opinions to determine if a movie is quality
>Revenge of the Sith is the best in the series
Ah, a man with truly patrician tastes. Cheers, friend.
I thought it was fricking moronic and I was like 14 at the time. A zero-stakes fight with a dumb looking CGI midget doing flips and shit. Star Wars "fans" genuinely must be like 75 IQ on average.
My friends and I laughed about it after. Made fun of his flips and his moronic scream. We also made fun of the "OBI-WAN'S JEALOUS!!!" scene where Padmé looks annoyed as frick
I didn't see 2 or 3 in the theaters after watching TPM. Not like I hated TPM or anything; I just had no interest in what was gonna happen really, despite consuming a ton of apocryphal material like the books and games, and buying a ton of figures.
Everyone was cheering at mine too, AOTC was kind of meh to me when it came out but I enjoyed the last 30 minutes.
1 and 3 were so much better.
laughter and cheering. I was in grade 5 I think.
I saw it at the midnight premier and people lost their shit. It was a pretty quiet showing up until then too. Marvel movies wish they could get that kind of organic nerd mic drop moment. One of the best times I've ever had in a theater.
Laughter.
Yeah.
I think I remember a cheering theater, but the consensus was after the hype died down that it was a worse movie overall than the first. The only defender that I really knew of it was my dad, and he said it was setting everything up for the last movie to be action packed. Son of a b***h was right but generally it took a lot of the hype out of the third film much like Last Jedi did. Teenagers and modern day prequel haters all thought lightsaber Yoda was cringe and I do too honestly, but I do like Ep. 3 a lot
The crowd where I saw it loved it as well.
I was a kid and I made a soiface. It was epic
I believe that most people who shit on the prequels are fading away with time, trek nerds and OT absolutist. Or, it's the people who believe they have a superior taste in artforms. So, douchebags, basically.
Or you could just move on from these basic ass movies already.
See what I mean?
>if you do anything other than obsess over these poorly made fantasy films from 20 years ago you're a big jerk and also invalid
Way to make yourself immune to any kind of criticism.
Thanks, I do not know why you obsessively hate it so much. It is merely content, it exists.
You're the one obsessed, anon. Don't project your obsession onto dismissal.
Sure. Keep obsessively shitting on star wars buddy, your generation is slowing leaving in waves. Spend your limited time doing something better.
This is the same post again.
Yes, because it is the truth.
>STOP HATING ON THESE SPACE MOVIES OBVIOUSLY MADE FOR CHILDREN, PLEASE!!!!
It's made for adolescent males ages 12-29. Lucas's bread and butter.. Otherwise known as "man children". The target demo. Like all scifi.
It's made for children ages 5 - 13.
That's who Lucas would market his toys and merch to.
>Like all scifi.
2001: A Space Odyssey and Star Trek aren't made for children.
Yes they were
Prove it.
There's Star Trek toys too. 2001 is OG I think, not sure though. I did see it as a kid. Prior to Star Wars at that.
PG*
Anyways, all of these three could very much be considered family entertainment.
Trek gays, I knew it. Go do something else. You have a thread, it sucks that everyone who cares about star trek is old as frick.
I'm not even a trekkie, prequel zoomer.
All movies can be watched by children, doesn't mean that they understand or are actually invested in all of them.
Prequels are made for the millennial demographic when they were adolescent.
When watching a film, it is required of you to suspend disbelief, like a child would. That in itself makes it inherently infantile. Which I'm sure bothers you somewhat, as your type is quite concerned with their own ego and idea of adulthood.
It seems like you have a subconscious need for children anon, you should take meds. Also, you just described 80% of scifi.
What are you even tying to say here? That the desire to reproduce is ingrained in people?
Your attempts at snide remarks are as incompetent as your takes.
>Also, you just described 80% of scifi.
Try 100% of fiction.
So, you just hate fiction then? in general. Got it. The entirety of film making if it is not based in historical fact is childish, according to trek anon #5.
I don't. I'm not "trek anon", rather, I was arguing with trek anon about why I think the whole seething about roller coaster movies is a bit pointless. In fact, it's about as mature as seething about roller coasters themselves being a thing, to out it into perspective.
But I digress. Everyone is free to like what they like, it's just kind of funny when "adults" start posturing that their 15% more complex media is somehow not a hollywood product for consoomers backed by a billion dollar studio.
I'd like to hear your argument as to how suspending your disbelief is infantile. A good writer can write a story that is inherently believable, as long as the world makes sense, and when it comes to films, if the direction is well done.
Most (good) films require the viewer to have a certain amount of knowledge to ponder a certain idea or message, and relate it to real life.
Because you're being asked to engage in make believe, anon. Mind you, I'm not the one obsessed with being as """adult""" as I can possibly be, because the very thought of such posturing is embarassing to me.
But film IS an illusion, fiction especially, but even documentaries to some lesser extent.
Even if something is make believe, it can still be written in a way that everything has an order to it and it is still believable, almost like it COULD exist.
Humans also naturally enjoy doing things that distract and relieve us from the stresses of the real world, this isn't something that is infantile. Children watch movies and shows to be amused by the bright colors and funny characters. While most adults watch things to take a break from things and invest their minds into something else.
The fact that you're barking at a bunch of childrens movies makes it all the more embarassing t b h
Least you're admitting that they are children's movies
I mean.. all movies are? so sure
Imagine thinking things are better now than they were in the 1980s. I'd wager even most liberals don't like new star trek and disney star wars
Pretty much yeah
Having a story focused on politics while showing women in skimpy outfits is not for children, it's for adolescent males. The profitable demo for all scifi. If you do not see this then I can not help you.
Bewildered laughter upon his acrobatic flipping
Star Black person and Capeshit containment board when?
We have ascended your containment boards.
If you don't like it, just participate in some other thread.
To this day I don't know what "I am Jazz" is, and glad about it.
I was watching it with my 8th grade class, plenty of people lost their shit, girls included.
People went ape shit all 5 times I saw this in theaters. There were no moments like this in the sequel trilogy that I can recall, though only saw Force Awakens 2wice, last jedi 1nce, and only saw rise of skyke once, my friend pirated for us. I heard the audience mostly respond with groans, and " are you kidding me?", heard even a black guy go "for real?" When Chewie walked past Leia at the end to go check on Token in force awakens. These are movies clearly for women and trannies now and the kids they're raising and teaching in schools across this 'woke world'
>REEEEE GEORGE YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE MY HEADCA-ACK!
People cheered. It was stupid, but the movie needed an exciting action scene since 90% of it is boring and bad dialogue.
People went nuts and screamed. It was a great time to be alive. All the kids were talking about it in the cafeteria reenacting it and getting in trouble
>You will be dead in 10-20 years.
Just facts. You know it is true. Use that time wisely gramps.
I'm 25
Nice, so what is your problem with the sequels then? You are too highbrow for starwars right? yet you spend your day shitting on it and checking in on the threads?
That was my first time posting in here. I just think anything made after RotJ is shit, even though I'm someone who grew up with the prequels
Who is seething now? Die faster please; it's going to take us a very long time to fix your many mistakes.
Also, nothing makes OT fanboys and RLM homosexuals seethe more than people enjoying these great films. The very act of enjoyment causes them pain.
They are drones.
>moan about drones
>keep repeating the same rhetoric and crying about RLM
You're literally behaving like drones.
Fire with fire, I suppose. At least we can all agree that disney starwars is dogshit.
>Repeatedly making fun of influential trash opinions makes one a drone.
You're really good thinking for yourself homosexual
I don't mind people enjoying them. I grew up with them myself, and seeing TPM in theaters is one of my earliest theater memories. I have a lot of nostalgia for TPM and all the merchandise/promo surrounding it. I still think the prequels are bad films, though.
Yeah, they are not the greatest. I do not think they deserve the hate they receive most of the time though. The sequels achieved what they were meant to do, bring families and people together. A better time than the soulless garbage that is constantly pumped out today. They should get praise for that alone in my opinion. It's the same for the OT. It may be somewhat infantile, however, it is still a beacon, and people hate it for this reason. I'm pretty sure this is why Disney wants to destroy it as well.
>Yoda appears
Cheering and clapping
Yoda draws his saber
>louder "oh shit" cheering clapping
>Yoda fights like a cat chasing a laser pointer
Half cheering and laughter that died off halfway through
Good day sirs.
>How did people react in your local theater when this happened? I remember people cheering loudly and going insane.
>all fat
Fat James Rolfe on the bottom left
Unironically, and I'm not lying, applause that evolved into fairly rowdy cheering when he started flipping and jumping all over the place. And before you ask, the theater was in a predominantly white town I lived in
when i saw it in a packed IMAX theater in DC everyone loved it. when it finally came out on dvd, after the initial watch, i watched some of the fight scenes over and over. this one was just cool. not sorry. yoda hippity hopping all over the place was kino as frick. his fight with palpatine in the senate building in rots is also great. anyone who says it wasnt is a homosexual/troony/moron. sorry not sorry.
I stood up and yelled "THIS IS REDDIT AS FRICK" and everyone clapped
Cant tell if these prequal gays are unironic. Even as a kid watching all the dvds I natturaly gravitated to the OG Trilogy without even knowing it. Even with all my darth maul and grievous toys. They were just better in every way.
I don't know I was too busy having gay sex the restroom
People generally enjoyed this part when it came out. It wasn't until the fun police said it doesn't make sense that a Jedi master could use the Force to enable him to fight did people start saying this is the worst duel.
First time I watched it I was in disbelief of how awkward the entire fight was. I came in watching TOS many times as a kid and enjoyed the slow determined fight scenes. Then I watch this as a teen and I thought it was choreographed by a coke addict.
Every time I give the prequels a chance every yoda fight scene disappoints
>I came in watching TOS many times as a kid and enjoyed the slow determined fight scenes. Then I watch this as a teen and I thought it was choreographed by a coke addict.
bruh the only fights we saw in the OT were:
1) old man vs crippled old man with robot limbs.
2) crippled old man with robot limbs vs untrained boy.
3) crippled old man with robot limbs vs slightly less untrained boy where an even older man cast lightning bolt one time.
everyone *i* knew was ecstatic to finally see jedi "in their prime", trained their whole life. the prequels gave us that.
I was 12, and I kinda remember it being a weird half cheer. Some people were pumped and others confused. No laughter
Honestly, up until that point, there were no wow moments like in the original series. Yoda going insane finally introduced one, even though it was cgi.
Of course, that was the wirefu video game influence, good riddance in the sequels.
Absolute awe. People thought Mace Windu was going to come around that corner. When it turned out to be Yoda, it was excited confusion. Then the force fight was awesome. Then seeing the lightsaber come out was absolute holy shit this rocks.
Until that very moment, no one even imagined that Yoda could so much as walk without a cane. Now that it's not new, the fight doesn't hold up great. But at the time, the mere revelation of it was mind blowing.
>hen the force fight was awesome
was it? it's pretty fricking pedestrian
I was in the theater 20 years ago, and remember that everyone went wild.
I don't get the backlash. Yoda is a Jedi. Supposedly, one of the best ever. Why wouldn't he have a lightsaber and know how to use it?
i was roughly, i dunno...15 when this film came out? and i distinctly remember other kids telling me "HOW FRICKING AWESOME!!!" yoda's fight scene was. like, these kids were pissing and shitting themselves at how amazing yoda's moves were. and to be honest, when i first saw it a little piss and shit came out too...but deep down i knew something was wrong. and with ever successive rewatch i began to realize how utterly stupid and awful and canon-destroying the scene was. now the whole thing looks like moronic blue screen video game shit and i balk at all of the prequels for how terrible they are.
i recently watched all 6 films are here are my ratings:
ANH: 10/10 - sci-fi/adventure perfection. absolute miracle this film was made in 1977
EST: 10/10 - the perfect sequel.
ROTJ: 7/10 - everything is incredible up until the ewoks. i loved them as a kid but as an adult must admit that they really do (almost) ruin the film. everything else about the film is amazing but as soon as they appear they kill the vibe. the blue screen speeder bike chases through the forest also look terrible
TPM: 5/10 its terrible ps1-tier graphics and a lot of stupid shit happens, but there's also some good stuff. watchable
AOTC: 2/10 - goofier than TPM. shit gets real stupid at the end
ROTS: 1/10 - even goofier now, terrible/stupid ending. NOOOOOOOO, etc. die die die