Retards don't know the difference between stereo and 5.1
See
everything is mixed for a 9.1 dolby atmos audio HDR 4D surround sound system that 0.01% of households own
There are so many nogs and immigrants in the movies, that you can't understand their accents and need subtitles.
I had 7.1 systems for ages, calibrated and everything. and I had to pull center channel up several db since the start to hear dialog properly, and still watching everything with subs. sound mixing has been shit and was never good for western productions. eastern is better, vidya is mostly perfect
It's not just the sound mixing
That might be a problem in some specific movies, like Tenet, but the actual problem is actors that can't enunciate as well anymore, the sound mixing just compounds that
Theater actors know how to enunciate because their voice and words need to be heard by the entire audience live, so they train for that
Film actors don't do that, and it's not something that comes naturally because you're doing other stuff while talking, like facing the wrong way from the mic, or running, and then your words that aren't enunciated properly don't even get picked up well
If an actor is good at enunciation you can understand everything even if they're whispering
Which is why video games and cartoons both western and eastern don't have this problem, because they're voice actors, their voice is their only concern and they're in studio made to capture voice in the best way possible
You can obviously change the sound mixing in video games yourself but you can't do that in cartoons, both made for tv and for cinema, and they're all still more understandable than live action
You can double check this in another way, listening to dubbed films
If you understand another language try listening to the same film in both the original language and then a dub, the dub will always be more understandable because the dialog isn't captured by a mic on a live action set but in a recording booth
>That might be a problem in some specific movies, like Tenet, but the actual problem is actors that can't enunciate as well anymore, the sound mixing just compounds that
This
I had 7.1 systems for ages, calibrated and everything. and I had to pull center channel up several db since the start to hear dialog properly, and still watching everything with subs. sound mixing has been shit and was never good for western productions. eastern is better, vidya is mostly perfect
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It's not just the sound mixing
That might be a problem in some specific movies, like Tenet, but the actual problem is actors that can't enunciate as well anymore, the sound mixing just compounds that
Theater actors know how to enunciate because their voice and words need to be heard by the entire audience live, so they train for that
Film actors don't do that, and it's not something that comes naturally because you're doing other stuff while talking, like facing the wrong way from the mic, or running, and then your words that aren't enunciated properly don't even get picked up well
If an actor is good at enunciation you can understand everything even if they're whispering
Which is why video games and cartoons both western and eastern don't have this problem, because they're voice actors, their voice is their only concern and they're in studio made to capture voice in the best way possible
You can obviously change the sound mixing in video games yourself but you can't do that in cartoons, both made for tv and for cinema, and they're all still more understandable than live action
You can double check this in another way, listening to dubbed films
If you understand another language try listening to the same film in both the original language and then a dub, the dub will always be more understandable because the dialog isn't captured by a mic on a live action set but in a recording booth
>dialogue is a whisper >Action scene >ear shattering fart noise.
I had 7.1 systems for ages, calibrated and everything. and I had to pull center channel up several db since the start to hear dialog properly, and still watching everything with subs. sound mixing has been shit and was never good for western productions. eastern is better, vidya is mostly perfect
Make sure it is passed through the speakers properly first. There are like a million audio standards that might fuck you up. If the audio track is DTS for example, make sure your receiver actually gets the DTS signal and not some interpretation by your software. I had this issue for years and didn't even know. I definitely noticed an improvement when I fixed proper pass through.
I had 7.1 systems for ages, calibrated and everything. and I had to pull center channel up several db since the start to hear dialog properly, and still watching everything with subs. sound mixing has been shit and was never good for western productions. eastern is better, vidya is mostly perfect
How do I get into fixing my audio at home? Any good starting points?
Make sure it is passed through the speakers properly first. There are like a million audio standards that might fuck you up. If the audio track is DTS for example, make sure your receiver actually gets the DTS signal and not some interpretation by your software. I had this issue for years and didn't even know. I definitely noticed an improvement when I fixed proper pass through.
I only use Kodi with center channel boost of 15%. This fixes every problem with horrible Audio mixing and inaudible dialog. My LG OLED has some build in "AI Audio enhancer" but it sounds like shit compared to that simple center channel boost. I listen on a stereo setup
Make sure it is passed through the speakers properly first. There are like a million audio standards that might fuck you up. If the audio track is DTS for example, make sure your receiver actually gets the DTS signal and not some interpretation by your software. I had this issue for years and didn't even know. I definitely noticed an improvement when I fixed proper pass through.
it could be pain in the ass to learn about different formats and settings but it will sound better
also learn about speaker placements, do calibration, most receivers can do that automatically.
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It's not just the sound mixing
That might be a problem in some specific movies, like Tenet, but the actual problem is actors that can't enunciate as well anymore, the sound mixing just compounds that
Theater actors know how to enunciate because their voice and words need to be heard by the entire audience live, so they train for that
Film actors don't do that, and it's not something that comes naturally because you're doing other stuff while talking, like facing the wrong way from the mic, or running, and then your words that aren't enunciated properly don't even get picked up well
If an actor is good at enunciation you can understand everything even if they're whispering
Which is why video games and cartoons both western and eastern don't have this problem, because they're voice actors, their voice is their only concern and they're in studio made to capture voice in the best way possible
You can obviously change the sound mixing in video games yourself but you can't do that in cartoons, both made for tv and for cinema, and they're all still more understandable than live action
You can double check this in another way, listening to dubbed films
If you understand another language try listening to the same film in both the original language and then a dub, the dub will always be more understandable because the dialog isn't captured by a mic on a live action set but in a recording booth
Its a combination of zoomers destroying their hearing using constantly cranked up earphones, and watching tiktok/social media homosexualry with captions of some idiot talking
Now they can't hear and their brains can't comprehend seeing someone speak without a dialogue box beneath them
>all this cope >So, I went to listen. He’d cleaned it up. The first time I heard it, I go, “Frankie, something’s wrong. It sounds so clear. You’ve got to put some more street noise in there because everything’s so clear.” I wasn’t used to that, you know?
This is the current state of younger professional audio mixers. This is why so many new mixes sound like dog shit. IT'S TOO CLEAR BECAUSE I CAN HEAR ALL THE DIALOGUE. No wonder modern movies are shit. Bunch of hacks.
But your picture says a boomer named AD complained to a millennial named Frank Montano that the dialogue was too clear, and the boomer made him add noise
I had 7.1 systems for ages, calibrated and everything. and I had to pull center channel up several db since the start to hear dialog properly, and still watching everything with subs. sound mixing has been shit and was never good for western productions. eastern is better, vidya is mostly perfect
Quit putting music in movies so that you don't have the problem of nearly silent dialogue and blaring music. Also would solve a lot of licensing problems.
Dialogue levels compared to other sounds in a production has definitely changed over the years. It works fine when you're in a cinema and everything is extremely loud, but for home watching mixing sucks nowadays.
But also make sure you're properly configured for the setup you havs at home. Your software of choice might process things differently depending on how you have it setup. If put kodi in 5.1 whilst having a 2.0 setup, dialogue will get drowned out.
I grew up watching movies+tv with subtitles since I'm ESL. Then as I got older I switched to English subs because I got annoyed by the bad translations.
Watching something without subs just feels off now. Unless it's like a sitcom or some shit.
Subtitles for foreign movies is fine, but when you have to use them for inaudible parts of Chris Nolan movies because the sound mixing is shit by artistic design, that's not right.
it is actually funny that you can watch amateur youtube videos and understand everything they say, but professional productions are a mess. and it's a global problem, not just american. it's like the global av community decided that's it's shit now, live with it. same thing with everything being so gray and dark. they got rid off colors
The problem is highly exaggerated by casual watchers that don't want to put effort/focus into watching or prepare their environment. But I do think older movies, despite having worse quality dialogue audio a lot of the time, were better at storytelling so you don't miss as much if you don't catch a few words here and there.
Its a combination of zoomers destroying their hearing using constantly cranked up earphones, and watching tiktok/social media homosexualry with captions of some idiot talking
Now they can't hear and their brains can't comprehend seeing someone speak without a dialogue box beneath them
Sound mixing is ass and people are simply just retarded now
t. subtitle moron
Retards don't know the difference between stereo and 5.1
See
It's not just the sound mixing
That might be a problem in some specific movies, like Tenet, but the actual problem is actors that can't enunciate as well anymore, the sound mixing just compounds that
Theater actors know how to enunciate because their voice and words need to be heard by the entire audience live, so they train for that
Film actors don't do that, and it's not something that comes naturally because you're doing other stuff while talking, like facing the wrong way from the mic, or running, and then your words that aren't enunciated properly don't even get picked up well
If an actor is good at enunciation you can understand everything even if they're whispering
Which is why video games and cartoons both western and eastern don't have this problem, because they're voice actors, their voice is their only concern and they're in studio made to capture voice in the best way possible
You can obviously change the sound mixing in video games yourself but you can't do that in cartoons, both made for tv and for cinema, and they're all still more understandable than live action
You can double check this in another way, listening to dubbed films
If you understand another language try listening to the same film in both the original language and then a dub, the dub will always be more understandable because the dialog isn't captured by a mic on a live action set but in a recording booth
What is adr
recording the dialogue in a sound studio and using that audio instead of what was recorded while filming
Something that isn't used enough
Remember Bane from TDKR, that was a massive improvement
it stands for additional audio recording.
Voice recording on set is extremely fucking clear nowadays. Studio level, even. It's definitely a mixing choice.
>That might be a problem in some specific movies, like Tenet, but the actual problem is actors that can't enunciate as well anymore, the sound mixing just compounds that
This
This
thats because you're watching 5.1/7/1 on stereo
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How do I get into fixing my audio at home? Any good starting points?
Make sure it is passed through the speakers properly first. There are like a million audio standards that might fuck you up. If the audio track is DTS for example, make sure your receiver actually gets the DTS signal and not some interpretation by your software. I had this issue for years and didn't even know. I definitely noticed an improvement when I fixed proper pass through.
I only use Kodi with center channel boost of 15%. This fixes every problem with horrible Audio mixing and inaudible dialog. My LG OLED has some build in "AI Audio enhancer" but it sounds like shit compared to that simple center channel boost. I listen on a stereo setup
do this
it could be pain in the ass to learn about different formats and settings but it will sound better
also learn about speaker placements, do calibration, most receivers can do that automatically.
>all this cope
>So, I went to listen. He’d cleaned it up. The first time I heard it, I go, “Frankie, something’s wrong. It sounds so clear. You’ve got to put some more street noise in there because everything’s so clear.” I wasn’t used to that, you know?
This is the current state of younger professional audio mixers. This is why so many new mixes sound like dog shit. IT'S TOO CLEAR BECAUSE I CAN HEAR ALL THE DIALOGUE. No wonder modern movies are shit. Bunch of hacks.
But your picture says a boomer named AD complained to a millennial named Frank Montano that the dialogue was too clear, and the boomer made him add noise
Frank was 27 in 1992 you idiot
everything is mixed for a 9.1 dolby atmos audio HDR 4D surround sound system that 0.01% of households own
I had 7.1 systems for ages, calibrated and everything. and I had to pull center channel up several db since the start to hear dialog properly, and still watching everything with subs. sound mixing has been shit and was never good for western productions. eastern is better, vidya is mostly perfect
There are so many nogs and immigrants in the movies, that you can't understand their accents and need subtitles.
SLAMMED
>dialogue is a whisper
>Action scene
>ear shattering fart noise.
Quit putting music in movies so that you don't have the problem of nearly silent dialogue and blaring music. Also would solve a lot of licensing problems.
We need to fix this fucking site, how are images still not fix. This is so incompetent
Get fucked phonefag, holy shit
Its on pc too literal retard
what is wrong with images? is seems to be working for me
takes a long time to load
it's not as bad if you open in a new tab
For some reason it works when I vpn
Dialogue levels compared to other sounds in a production has definitely changed over the years. It works fine when you're in a cinema and everything is extremely loud, but for home watching mixing sucks nowadays.
But also make sure you're properly configured for the setup you havs at home. Your software of choice might process things differently depending on how you have it setup. If put kodi in 5.1 whilst having a 2.0 setup, dialogue will get drowned out.
>It works fine when you're in a [properly calibrated speaker space] and everything is extremely loud, but for home watching mixing sucks nowadays.
wow no shit
the main issue is even most surround sound systems are dogshit
I grew up watching movies+tv with subtitles since I'm ESL. Then as I got older I switched to English subs because I got annoyed by the bad translations.
Watching something without subs just feels off now. Unless it's like a sitcom or some shit.
>tfw mostly watch old movies with mono audio so this is not a big problem for me
>blu ray and 4k release only has the remastered modern 5.1 mix and a downmixed 2.0 track and no mono
Nothing personnel kid
Name 4 releases where this is the case.
no
Good job putting in all that effort, but I still won't even bother downloading it since I already have the version that works just fine for me.
Subtitles for foreign movies is fine, but when you have to use them for inaudible parts of Chris Nolan movies because the sound mixing is shit by artistic design, that's not right.
it is actually funny that you can watch amateur youtube videos and understand everything they say, but professional productions are a mess. and it's a global problem, not just american. it's like the global av community decided that's it's shit now, live with it. same thing with everything being so gray and dark. they got rid off colors
A: 10
Thanks, YIFY!
how long before emojis replace subtitles
can't hear shit when i'm eating something
The problem is highly exaggerated by casual watchers that don't want to put effort/focus into watching or prepare their environment. But I do think older movies, despite having worse quality dialogue audio a lot of the time, were better at storytelling so you don't miss as much if you don't catch a few words here and there.
You are disgusting.
I always forget about it until I am forced to watch a modern movie with people. They really don't make kino like they used to
Its a combination of zoomers destroying their hearing using constantly cranked up earphones, and watching tiktok/social media homosexualry with captions of some idiot talking
Now they can't hear and their brains can't comprehend seeing someone speak without a dialogue box beneath them