The less we talk about Adventure Time the better. >bro your saying this in a Steven Universe thread
Bro, I don't give a shit about SU not a single bit. I'm here just to tell you the quality drop off from AT was worse than anything I've seen in any CN show. SU was probably never good to begin with lol can't say for sure it looks like absolute shit.
>I'm here just to tell you the quality drop off from AT was worse than anything I've seen in any CN show
It's baffling how much the show changed halfway into its run. Like, Savino Dexter, while still being a major downstep, was still kinda trying to be like Genndy Dexter.
Muto-AT turned into an anthology series with a very loose theme and looser connection to Ward-AT. Like, I barely got what the frick was going on after season 5 and 6.
His creations are weak to it, at most it briefly stuns GOLB (If that) and opens a hole in his body for you to try and redirect him using a cosmic wish-granting artifact.
OG Steven barely had a grasp on his powers and was mostly protected by the Crystal Gems as their human pet/idol because he had Rose/PD's gem. AT creatures can't be placated by crying and singing like most of Sugar's works and without Connie or a Gem Mommy he'd be killed or severely maimed by a demon, undead, or other creature. Plus AT made it really clear that unless you're a woman/lesbian no one really cares about you emotionally or physically, ironically something Sugar had to retcon into AT for her Bubbline ship. He'd probably break down into MonsterSteven in a week and get slain as a mob of the day at best. At worst he gets LICH'd or PB dissects him alive for an experiment.
Lich is a 50/50 because while healing would turn him into Sweet-P that would require a lot of spit from Steven do so plus it's shown that Lich has multiple forms outside of his Skelly form that required several physical fights Steven isn't capable of mentally or physically. GOLB was slightly weak to singing as a distraction because of Sugar's revisionism and even then it wasn't the song but the ritual Betty needed to use to merge with it. Even Steven's single song wouldn't directly hurt it so he'd have to get someone to protect him, again doesn't work in AT unless he goes Transgender with shapeshifting as a Woman unless he's willing to become a true monster and frick off into another dimension in the first place.
OG Steven would job to people like Ricardo, Ashe, Hunsoon Abadeer, Ice King, and and even Me-Mow without a CG or Connie/Stevonnie protecting him. Future Steven might work but only if he's in Chad mode from training with Jasper but Sugar cucked him out of that growth/individuality because she saw it as Toxic Masculinity crap.
>that would require a lot of spit from Steven do
Would it? It was only like a splash from Finn
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was concentrated pure life energy from a super maguffin well and it took more than one splash. Even with Steven's healing/pink people factor I doubt a single lick would do it. Plus it requires Steven to get close enough to do it which is the real toss up. OG Steven wouldn't without someone to hide/fuse behind and Chad Steven might have a chance if he isn't corrupted. This only works on the basic Lich though, any of the multiverse Liches don't have this weakness and knowing Steven he'd fall for it's trap since it's a tempter demon in it's weakest state. Jake smashed it to death for good where Steven would break down if he had to kill something permanently which Finn does quite a bit for monsters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Also I think the biggest thing that kills Steven is the world itself. Steven gets everything handed to him on a silver platter without him really needing to do anything but throw a tantrum, something he shares with his mother. Every stake or negative consequence is fixed irregardless of his actions in SU because Sugar is sheltered that way while in AT he'd be more broken than Finn since no one would care/support him at all. Steven went Gem Monster over not getting his way for once in his life. He'd be an eldritch abomination in week on Ooo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
even in like the first episode Steven was already doing things on par with Finn with the same protagonist ingenuity and courage. if Steven was born on Ooo his whole character would change without the gems to coddle him too early Steven was already hyped to go on adventures he's basically the same character as Finn
2 years ago
Anonymous
I feel like a lot of people forgot SU started off as a 'monster of the week' show and the tone didn't really see its big shift till around the Garnet fusion reveal.
I say "forget" but it's obvious most people who shit on SU just parrot what they hear from other people who also haven't watched the show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rewatched the episode. He wasn’t even splashed the first time. He touched Finn’s wet arm. Which means Steven wipes his tears with the Lich, stops him cold and leaves him screaming and from then on cries into his chest. See you don’t have to kill to win. Especially not against a Bering who can’t escape tree resin for centuries
Also I think the biggest thing that kills Steven is the world itself. Steven gets everything handed to him on a silver platter without him really needing to do anything but throw a tantrum, something he shares with his mother. Every stake or negative consequence is fixed irregardless of his actions in SU because Sugar is sheltered that way while in AT he'd be more broken than Finn since no one would care/support him at all. Steven went Gem Monster over not getting his way for once in his life. He'd be an eldritch abomination in week on Ooo.
And Steven only became a monster out of guilt over killing someone. Which he doesn’t have to do here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only for the Lich but other creatures he'd have to kill which I don't think Steven can do. Even with Lich screaming he still fought back so Steven would have to finish the job and push him in like Finn did. I get that you're only hyperfixating on Lich to defend Steven but he's not the only monster in Ooo that would rip Steven a new butthole.
even in like the first episode Steven was already doing things on par with Finn with the same protagonist ingenuity and courage. if Steven was born on Ooo his whole character would change without the gems to coddle him too early Steven was already hyped to go on adventures he's basically the same character as Finn
Not really, the few monsters he faced were mostly things he could run from until the Gems save the day. A lot of the monsters in Ooo you can't run away from and if you do, civilians get hurt which would make Steven even more guilty as people have been melted and turned to ash rather than leaving a corpse, he can pink zombie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean who would that even be, that deer? Pretty sure he’s alive, Ice King, even Ricardio is still alive
Not sure
They hate men and loathe little boys...but technically Steven is a troony...a fat one
So...
Not well.
Raped by lich or dissected by bubblegum.
Steven tries to reason with the Lich. Lich pulls out his gem. Human half of Steven dies, and his gem half is corrupted. The gem is used to take over Ooo. Simple as.
Only if Steven goes full transgender so Homelander can plow Steven while sucking on their b***hbreasts. Otherwise Homelander gets him to commit suicide like the israeli Girl did.
Steven would thrive in OOO I think, he'd basically be a second Jake that actually cares about people more than goofing off and the general laid back atmosphere would do wonders for his mental health.
I think he'd end up getting run around by the Lich and it'd be an interesting situation to see Steven confront something that's actually just straight up evil and can't be reasoned with and needs to be killed, if he actually got pushed to the "I need to kill this guy" point, he'd fare better than Finn who's go to plan was just running at shit with his sword and needing to get bailed out by Jake.
In regards to other established characters like Finn or whoever, Steven I think would >wind up getting used by Bubblegum to suit her needs, he'd likely catch on to this but still help her out anyway >try to talk Ice King out of his various plots with occasional success >get along great with BMO, Finn is nice to him but doesn't take him on adventures since Steven would likely spend too long trying to get through situations without violence >Multiversus shows Steven and Jake would get along great over garbage food
If we're talking raw fights, Steven's shield is so OP when it comes to dungeons and traps and shit, a lot of stuff that Finn struggled with would be a breeze for Steven, but that's kind of Finn's appeal.
>>wind up getting used by Bubblegum to suit her needs, he'd likely catch on to this but still help her out anyway
I like Steven but even Finn needed Jake for that
Steven would try to sing and talk to the lich king and then get killed immediately. And if he doesn't, he'd most likely stop Finn or anyone from defeating and killing anything. Steven having this savior complex and believing he can do anything is what makes him an annoying character. I don't think he'd get along well with anyone at all
The less we talk about Adventure Time the better.
>bro your saying this in a Steven Universe thread
Bro, I don't give a shit about SU not a single bit. I'm here just to tell you the quality drop off from AT was worse than anything I've seen in any CN show. SU was probably never good to begin with lol can't say for sure it looks like absolute shit.
both of these shows have overstayed their welcome on this board
when will you ever move on?
Man, i agree. I mean, i know i'm not in the intended audience and all, but i feel like the quality dropped somewhere along the middle of AT.
I think it's the same with SU, they became too big for themselves, and tried to be more than it's initial premise.
It’s just a proposal
>I'm here just to tell you the quality drop off from AT was worse than anything I've seen in any CN show
It's baffling how much the show changed halfway into its run. Like, Savino Dexter, while still being a major downstep, was still kinda trying to be like Genndy Dexter.
Muto-AT turned into an anthology series with a very loose theme and looser connection to Ward-AT. Like, I barely got what the frick was going on after season 5 and 6.
dies instantly
Why
GOLB
I thought he was weak to singing
His creations are weak to it, at most it briefly stuns GOLB (If that) and opens a hole in his body for you to try and redirect him using a cosmic wish-granting artifact.
OG Steven barely had a grasp on his powers and was mostly protected by the Crystal Gems as their human pet/idol because he had Rose/PD's gem. AT creatures can't be placated by crying and singing like most of Sugar's works and without Connie or a Gem Mommy he'd be killed or severely maimed by a demon, undead, or other creature. Plus AT made it really clear that unless you're a woman/lesbian no one really cares about you emotionally or physically, ironically something Sugar had to retcon into AT for her Bubbline ship. He'd probably break down into MonsterSteven in a week and get slain as a mob of the day at best. At worst he gets LICH'd or PB dissects him alive for an experiment.
>AT creatures can't be placated by crying and singing
Lich is weak to healing
GOLB is weak to singing
Lich is a 50/50 because while healing would turn him into Sweet-P that would require a lot of spit from Steven do so plus it's shown that Lich has multiple forms outside of his Skelly form that required several physical fights Steven isn't capable of mentally or physically. GOLB was slightly weak to singing as a distraction because of Sugar's revisionism and even then it wasn't the song but the ritual Betty needed to use to merge with it. Even Steven's single song wouldn't directly hurt it so he'd have to get someone to protect him, again doesn't work in AT unless he goes Transgender with shapeshifting as a Woman unless he's willing to become a true monster and frick off into another dimension in the first place.
OG Steven would job to people like Ricardo, Ashe, Hunsoon Abadeer, Ice King, and and even Me-Mow without a CG or Connie/Stevonnie protecting him. Future Steven might work but only if he's in Chad mode from training with Jasper but Sugar cucked him out of that growth/individuality because she saw it as Toxic Masculinity crap.
>that would require a lot of spit from Steven do
Would it? It was only like a splash from Finn
That was concentrated pure life energy from a super maguffin well and it took more than one splash. Even with Steven's healing/pink people factor I doubt a single lick would do it. Plus it requires Steven to get close enough to do it which is the real toss up. OG Steven wouldn't without someone to hide/fuse behind and Chad Steven might have a chance if he isn't corrupted. This only works on the basic Lich though, any of the multiverse Liches don't have this weakness and knowing Steven he'd fall for it's trap since it's a tempter demon in it's weakest state. Jake smashed it to death for good where Steven would break down if he had to kill something permanently which Finn does quite a bit for monsters.
Also I think the biggest thing that kills Steven is the world itself. Steven gets everything handed to him on a silver platter without him really needing to do anything but throw a tantrum, something he shares with his mother. Every stake or negative consequence is fixed irregardless of his actions in SU because Sugar is sheltered that way while in AT he'd be more broken than Finn since no one would care/support him at all. Steven went Gem Monster over not getting his way for once in his life. He'd be an eldritch abomination in week on Ooo.
even in like the first episode Steven was already doing things on par with Finn with the same protagonist ingenuity and courage. if Steven was born on Ooo his whole character would change without the gems to coddle him too early Steven was already hyped to go on adventures he's basically the same character as Finn
I feel like a lot of people forgot SU started off as a 'monster of the week' show and the tone didn't really see its big shift till around the Garnet fusion reveal.
I say "forget" but it's obvious most people who shit on SU just parrot what they hear from other people who also haven't watched the show.
Rewatched the episode. He wasn’t even splashed the first time. He touched Finn’s wet arm. Which means Steven wipes his tears with the Lich, stops him cold and leaves him screaming and from then on cries into his chest. See you don’t have to kill to win. Especially not against a Bering who can’t escape tree resin for centuries
And Steven only became a monster out of guilt over killing someone. Which he doesn’t have to do here.
Only for the Lich but other creatures he'd have to kill which I don't think Steven can do. Even with Lich screaming he still fought back so Steven would have to finish the job and push him in like Finn did. I get that you're only hyperfixating on Lich to defend Steven but he's not the only monster in Ooo that would rip Steven a new butthole.
Not really, the few monsters he faced were mostly things he could run from until the Gems save the day. A lot of the monsters in Ooo you can't run away from and if you do, civilians get hurt which would make Steven even more guilty as people have been melted and turned to ash rather than leaving a corpse, he can pink zombie.
I mean who would that even be, that deer? Pretty sure he’s alive, Ice King, even Ricardio is still alive
Not sure
They hate men and loathe little boys...but technically Steven is a troony...a fat one
So...
Not well.
Raped by lich or dissected by bubblegum.
They like jake
Steven tries to reason with the Lich. Lich pulls out his gem. Human half of Steven dies, and his gem half is corrupted. The gem is used to take over Ooo. Simple as.
He and Finn would kiss.
Finn looks like a girl
He might as well be one.
Fionna didn’t lose an arm so maybe he would be better off
Holy shit. That's just an open wound waiting to get infected.
Could Steven beat Homelander?
Only if Steven goes full transgender so Homelander can plow Steven while sucking on their b***hbreasts. Otherwise Homelander gets him to commit suicide like the israeli Girl did.
Obviously. That guy got wrecked by Soldier Boy
He had bigger balls than Steven
Steven would thrive in OOO I think, he'd basically be a second Jake that actually cares about people more than goofing off and the general laid back atmosphere would do wonders for his mental health.
I think he'd end up getting run around by the Lich and it'd be an interesting situation to see Steven confront something that's actually just straight up evil and can't be reasoned with and needs to be killed, if he actually got pushed to the "I need to kill this guy" point, he'd fare better than Finn who's go to plan was just running at shit with his sword and needing to get bailed out by Jake.
In regards to other established characters like Finn or whoever, Steven I think would
>wind up getting used by Bubblegum to suit her needs, he'd likely catch on to this but still help her out anyway
>try to talk Ice King out of his various plots with occasional success
>get along great with BMO, Finn is nice to him but doesn't take him on adventures since Steven would likely spend too long trying to get through situations without violence
>Multiversus shows Steven and Jake would get along great over garbage food
If we're talking raw fights, Steven's shield is so OP when it comes to dungeons and traps and shit, a lot of stuff that Finn struggled with would be a breeze for Steven, but that's kind of Finn's appeal.
>>wind up getting used by Bubblegum to suit her needs, he'd likely catch on to this but still help her out anyway
I like Steven but even Finn needed Jake for that
Oh god I mean like, PB using Steven to run her errands and shit, not relationship use, Steven would just see her as another gem type I think.
Possibly, he does like nerds
Steven would wind up with Flame Princess and not frick it up with horny dreams I think.
She’s more like Lapis and he didn’t like her
He got along well enough with Lapis I thought, but you're that right he would lead harder on the nerd angle, outside of PB who fits?
Not much honestly. None of the girls really care about learning and shit
Guess it’s just PB
He is immortal ish
>Deadliest character in AT is weak to singing
What do you think?
He literally beats the lich by spitting on him lmao
honestly his healing spit would solo the lich considering what happens to him canonically
Steven would try to sing and talk to the lich king and then get killed immediately. And if he doesn't, he'd most likely stop Finn or anyone from defeating and killing anything. Steven having this savior complex and believing he can do anything is what makes him an annoying character. I don't think he'd get along well with anyone at all