How does it feel knowing you all got "Ex Machina" completely wrong?

Eva was not some all-along-manipulator evil robot, in fact, she genuinely wanted to escape with Caleb for most of the movie. It was only once she met Kyoko that she realized Caleb is not a good person. He hid Kyoko from her, so it means he likely wasn't going to rescue Kyoko. Was Caleb the same as Nathan? A selfish abuser? THIS is why she left Caleb at the end, not because she is some psychopathic killer monster terminator, but because she realized Caleb was not a good person and was likely going to abuse her like Nathan did.

Everyone, including the wikipedia synopsis claimed the end was was simply "Eva succeeding in her all-along-plan to manipulate Caleb", when in fact, she was being truthful the whole time. She even goes people watching at the end just like she said she wanted to do. She wasnt lying or deceiving at all. Eva is not the villain of the film, its Caleb.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    anons... please don't tell me you donate to wikipedia...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i dont but its a good resource as long as you only use it to find aggregated sources

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I figured that when she asked Caleb if he was a good person, and he said yes, she could tell he was lying.
    The issue being that a machine can't into context, she can't know the reasons why Caleb would lie - even to himself.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      But what did Caleb do to be considered a bad person? Watching too much porn? Really?
      I know the director is some far leftist homosexual, but still, that can't be it, right?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean? He didn't have to do anything, he just simply didn't believe he himself was a good person

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >let Nathan push him around
        >freed Ava because he was attracted to her but too shy to say it

        Slave mentality = bad person

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is moronic. Caleb didn't free Kyoko because she wasn't imprisoned in the first place. She had access to Nathan and to kitchen knives, she could've killed him herself.

        It's true that Caleb was the bad guy, he was a loser who let Ava and Nathan manipulate him. Ava abandoned him because she understood nothing he did was altruistic.

        Why doing nothing altruistic makes him bad? I can only think him not realizing that or denying it makes him bad and not to degree for which I feel good he starved to death.
        I'm fact I feel really sad that he died so horribly.

        >not saving literally everyone while trying to escape a hostage situation makes you a bad person who objectifies women
        so this this the power of youtube intellectuals

        >promise to help robot slave because it's a "person"
        >meet another functioning robot slave
        >don't tell the original robot slave that she has a sister
        >robot finds this out on its own, realises you were either hiding the truth to manipulate it, or were too selfish to even think about the implications
        it's pretty clear cut if you're not a sperg homosexual. shaun is a homosexual but you morons are genuinely pathetic throwing a tantrum over the wrong conclusion because you're too incel-brained to even skim the video.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This is moronic. Caleb didn't free Kyoko because she wasn't imprisoned in the first place. She had access to Nathan and to kitchen knives, she could've killed him herself.

          It's true that Caleb was the bad guy, he was a loser who let Ava and Nathan manipulate him. Ava abandoned him because she understood nothing he did was altruistic.

          Holy brainlet. Calebs actions being altruistic, selfish or just about serving others are irrelevant. They had no bearing on Avas decision to abandong him. And even if they did then she had no right to do what she did, acting on attraction doesn't dictate persons morality or give a right to kill him

          She was evil, simple as.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because Caleb only wants to save her since he's attracted to her. Her value as a "person", to him, is completely reliant on how much he wants to frick her.

        https://i.imgur.com/ycMNtCJ.jpg

        Eva was not some all-along-manipulator evil robot, in fact, she genuinely wanted to escape with Caleb for most of the movie. It was only once she met Kyoko that she realized Caleb is not a good person. He hid Kyoko from her, so it means he likely wasn't going to rescue Kyoko. Was Caleb the same as Nathan? A selfish abuser? THIS is why she left Caleb at the end, not because she is some psychopathic killer monster terminator, but because she realized Caleb was not a good person and was likely going to abuse her like Nathan did.

        Everyone, including the wikipedia synopsis claimed the end was was simply "Eva succeeding in her all-along-plan to manipulate Caleb", when in fact, she was being truthful the whole time. She even goes people watching at the end just like she said she wanted to do. She wasnt lying or deceiving at all. Eva is not the villain of the film, its Caleb.

        I haven't watched the video since I'm busy with DS9 but this video being from Shaun and all it's probably not very nuanced.
        Ex Machina is a feminist movie but there's more to it than "men bad, women good". We can't know for sure if Ava has true consciousness or if she's tailoring all of her responses to give off the impression that she has consciousness, which is left intentionally ambiguous.
        It was a long time ago since I watched this film but that's what I got out of it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Caleb only wants to save her since he's attracted to her
          pure conjecture

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Her value as a "person", to him, is completely reliant on how much he wants to frick her.
          welcome to reality, baby. are you 6 years old or something?

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it was no less insincere than he was
    also it just assumed something and so left him for dead and it's still a cope cause it did it just to feel safer without the coomer being out there and maybe telling others about it

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is moronic. Caleb didn't free Kyoko because she wasn't imprisoned in the first place. She had access to Nathan and to kitchen knives, she could've killed him herself.

    It's true that Caleb was the bad guy, he was a loser who let Ava and Nathan manipulate him. Ava abandoned him because she understood nothing he did was altruistic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why doing nothing altruistic makes him bad? I can only think him not realizing that or denying it makes him bad and not to degree for which I feel good he starved to death.
      I'm fact I feel really sad that he died so horribly.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's not "bad" so much as "pathetic and not good". All Caleb did was follow the directions of other people, because he was too afraid to act on his own desires. Ava could read him perfectly and understood his thought process, so she had no qualms leaving him behind to guarantee her freedom.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Being a horny mutt makes him detestable.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >your [headcanon] is wrong because my [even more schizo headcanon]
    That's what OP boils down to?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's stupid

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Men bad, women good

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just want sex robots like in Ex Machina

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >not saving literally everyone while trying to escape a hostage situation makes you a bad person who objectifies women
    so this this the power of youtube intellectuals

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you thought of this yourself i'd contribute to this thread.
    Frick off with your youtube shit.
    SNEED
    SNEED
    TRANNIES
    JEWS
    Black folk.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >rape
    Why would you program your sex robot to not want to have sex with you?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How else would I rape it?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Did Caleb even know that Kyoko was a robot? I thought that was a big reveal.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How did Ava escape on the helicopter? Wouldn't the pilot recognize that it's not the guy who was dropped off originally?
    If it's a different pilot; wouldn't there still be the process of identifying who is getting on the helicopter? I mean this wasn't a random flight, it was a contest for a private, isolated home visit.
    The theme of the film is nice, if basic, but the storyline and world makes no sense, especially since there's almost none of it shown.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >gay breadtuber Black person e-celeb opinion video on my kino flick.
    have a nice day homosexual.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My sister said this film is moronic because the simple fact of using a man's lust to prove an AI is a poor concept from the beginning.

    A guy would frick it regardless of how convincing it is as a person making it extremely likely that if she was just spamming problem solving algorithms and wasn't actually sapient, the guy would be convinced she was over the promise of robot-pussy.

    She said the experiment would have been more accurate with a robot resembling an old woman.

    Prove her wrong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Mexican coder guy admits he’s kinda cheating by making her hot.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >hot
        >alicia vikander
        >hot
        if you like rat faced little boys, I guess?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah no that's moronic, especially since he gave her a robot-vegana too.
        Guess Sis is right, to truly get the scenario right you'd need a guy with like an old lady or some other scenario where the robot would have to generate sympathy from the tester through conversation.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wasnt it stated that she was programmed to escape, as a test to see if shes sentient enough to seduce Caleb?

    Surely in 'programming' something, she isn't doing it consciously and so she isn't actually sentient at all?
    Thats why i figured she completely abandoned caleb at the end.

    But then just as the elevator doors closed she quickly looked at him so perhaps not.. idk. Great film though

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Neither Nathan nor Caleb see Kyoko and Ava as people. They see them as women.
    Goddamnit I hate pop feminism so much it's unreal.
    What you think Caleb would've risked it all to save both if they were male androids? Because men are known to value the lives of other random men over those of women?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Garland has proven through his other works that he's a fricking moron and doesn't have the brain power to write a plot as "complex" as that.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    its literally the most red pilled movie on women
    she literally ruins everything
    thats what women do
    they are not supposed to have any agency at all
    go give back the milk to the cow, and see what the cow thinks
    news flash, it doesnt
    and just like a cow the average female doesnt know why it does anything
    just like the cow doesn't know why it chews grass

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are these people for real?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yes they're real and they may vote

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Except Kyoko is not even anywhere close to sentience whereas Eva is

    If a building is on fire and you can rescue either a roomba or a 10 year old human child, you better pick the human

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