opposite for me. my least favorite episodes, aside from flashback reels, are where the show takes itself too seriously and pretends to be deep. like office olympics
garden party is just non stop pissing on andy with a few random weird interactions thrown in for a good measure
i guess it all comes down to how you see the show. i never found office to be a show with a strong story, just an entertaining one. i understand it is considered to be top tier by redditors, i can certainly see why would they prefer the earlier seasons then. not me, i like the lose nature of last couple of seasons
>not me, i like the lose nature of last couple of seasons
This is a good point
Honestly losing michael allowed the series to entertain more random, and silly plotlines
Ed Helms is hilarious but they did throttle his character because he was out filming movies
I refuse to accede to the notion Ed Helms is not funny on account of Andy Bernard being insufferable. It takes some talent to portray that as well as ed did, especially in season 3.
except he's an annoying homosexual or cuck in every role he does. the character of Andy is so bad, I lost interest in the show. even leading up to Jim and Pam getting together, it was getting bad. it's good for a couple or maybe even a few seasons.
I'll say this, he was spot on perfect season 3 and 4. but the producers tried to make him michael, and nerfed him and tried to make him loveable which was a huge mistake
In all honesty it was a return to form to make him insufferable in the later seasons but by then his chronology was so confused it just didn't make sense. They botched his character but helms performed him well
Utterly dreadful. The Pam and Jim drama becomes even more nauseating than usual. I'll defend them for a moment because people say that is when the show went to shit, which isn't true. Seasons 5, 6 and 7 are pretty fricking terrible.
I was bored by season 6.
Season 8 is okay until they make Nelly a main character, then everything goes down the drain. Season 9 is just all around terrible, not even the finale could salvage that mess.
Bro. d'Angelo was fricking hilarious. >I'm just as comfortable at the opera.. as I am at a ball game
He was the perfect trite uninteresting boss. He loved the american southwest. Eyeballed sq footage on rooms "about fifteen hundo?"
le invisible juggling was hilarious. what is your major malfunction
I have terrible taste, but I also liked d’Angelo. I know people say he’s just Will Ferrell playing Will Ferrell and it doesn’t fit with the dry and deadpan humor of the office, but I only watched a few episodes here and there and never the entire series
season 8 is funny until they go to Florida. Robert has some really good moments. After that it’s dog shit. Nelly and season 9 Andy make it irredeemable. I’m still baffled as to why the writers made Andy so terrible at the end. It’s like they held a personal grudge against Ed helms
>It’s like they held a personal grudge against Ed helms
they've said in multiple interviews they did, since he announced he was leaving to film movies later in the script process than usual
I've had managers and mentors who acted like Robert. His presence was welcome.
Two sides of the same coin with Michael.
Both are good managers who have their own methods to win in the end at the expense of their ego.
My favorite episode is the one where Michael snaps at Jim about the southern murder mystery game. Best manager.
California was literally based. Base human instinct. He could read a room and glide through. He was ultimately killed by his own hubris.
This show used to be something interesting.
Robert was hysterical
Nellie was also pretty funny, underrated even
I maintain that the worst two seasons of the office are actually season 6 and season 8. They have the most episodes I don't feel like watching. But at no point does the show get truly bad. It stays funny throughout
I only watched a few episodes of the office so I might be wrong but it seems like a film crew was following the people who worked at the office. I assume they were doing a documentary (?) so did they ever release "the documentary" in the context of the show?
I only watched a few episodes of the office so I might be wrong but it seems like a film crew was following the people who worked at the office. I assume they were doing a documentary (?) so did they ever release "the documentary" in the context of the show?
Yes. Some of the film crew actually become characters in the final season, and the last couple episodes have it finally releasing.
The first three seasons are pure kino. 4 and 5 are still very good for the most part. 6 and 7 were okay, with both seasonings having a handful of great episodes. 8 was pretty bad but still watchable. 9 was an atrocity.
DeAngelo or Robert California would have been great bosses. The fact there was like 50 at the end made it unwatchable, it ruined the comfy nature of the show.
The character of michael was beginning to get tired by about season 6. Let's not make any excuses about this.
He started off as a crass dummy but as the seasons go on it becomes hard not to like the guy. It was reaching a point where his character sort of stopped being believable. So they did the right thing and by season 7 made him basically entirely likable, secretly sage, and really deserving of a happy ending. Season six felt unbelievably strained, idk. I don't think there's a lower point in the series than Michael and Dwight fighting atop a mountain of garbage looking for the lost leads at a landfill.
They put michael out to pasture and sadly there was really nowhere else for his character to go. You don't like to see it but when a star player has past their prime you don't keep them on the roster just because you like them.
imagine having a dead end job, working for boss who is a moron having a shit pay and benefits, all the while spending 8 hours every day with half a dozen guys who fricked your wife
why did jim JUST himself so hard?
Season 4 is where decline begins. It starts to feel very overtly comedic in season 4. Dinner part is a great episode but michael and jan (melora) are acting like they're on TV if that makes sense.
Season 5 is when they abandon original characterizations (I think Ryan's change made the least sense; he went from the temp to BJ novak). Season five is also when they embraced the full soap opera nature of the show with the "sweet" wedding two parter
season 6 is when michael died
season 7 is when the office (setting) just became a hang out party
>it's a jim gets a little responsibility, gets btfo by his coworkers and has to go running to michael for advice episode
why did they do this so often? The first time was neat but then it happens again and again
I enjoy Gabe and Erin but can't stand Robert California. I've known many delightfully stupid girls like Erin in my life and enjoy seeing them portrayed on a show.
>implying anyone made it that far
I feel like they don't exist and as soon as Michael wasn't manager, it was another show.
It was getting bad when he was still there
I liked Robert, better than dumbass Andy
Andy killed the show more than Michael leaving
Agreed
They neutered Andy's character so fricking bad. He got a raw deal, worst of anyone in the show.
could really feel michael gone but overall i liked it tbh
Should've just made Dwight the manager after Michael left, would've been 100 times better than the trash we got.
One of the most dogshit zombie shows to ever make it to air
It made me laugh a couple of times sorta boring tho
I couldn’t make it pass the Andy pity picnic party. I think I maybe chuckled once that whole episode.
opposite for me. my least favorite episodes, aside from flashback reels, are where the show takes itself too seriously and pretends to be deep. like office olympics
garden party is just non stop pissing on andy with a few random weird interactions thrown in for a good measure
i guess it all comes down to how you see the show. i never found office to be a show with a strong story, just an entertaining one. i understand it is considered to be top tier by redditors, i can certainly see why would they prefer the earlier seasons then. not me, i like the lose nature of last couple of seasons
>not me, i like the lose nature of last couple of seasons
This is a good point
Honestly losing michael allowed the series to entertain more random, and silly plotlines
Why did they even bother/10
terrible. Didn't even bother watching the sabre arc
Ed Helms is where comedy goes to die.
Ed Helms is hilarious but they did throttle his character because he was out filming movies
I refuse to accede to the notion Ed Helms is not funny on account of Andy Bernard being insufferable. It takes some talent to portray that as well as ed did, especially in season 3.
except he's an annoying homosexual or cuck in every role he does. the character of Andy is so bad, I lost interest in the show. even leading up to Jim and Pam getting together, it was getting bad. it's good for a couple or maybe even a few seasons.
yeah it's called being typecast numbnuts
I'll say this, he was spot on perfect season 3 and 4. but the producers tried to make him michael, and nerfed him and tried to make him loveable which was a huge mistake
In all honesty it was a return to form to make him insufferable in the later seasons but by then his chronology was so confused it just didn't make sense. They botched his character but helms performed him well
Utterly dreadful. The Pam and Jim drama becomes even more nauseating than usual. I'll defend them for a moment because people say that is when the show went to shit, which isn't true. Seasons 5, 6 and 7 are pretty fricking terrible.
I was bored by season 6.
Season 8 is okay until they make Nelly a main character, then everything goes down the drain. Season 9 is just all around terrible, not even the finale could salvage that mess.
every sitcom dies at some point when the obvious character relations and arcs have been worked out, the office was well beyond that point already
the show dies the second michael leaves
It was dying before Micheal left.
yeah pretty much. it was the final nail
This, but it's when Will Ferrell shows up.
>le invisible juggling!!!
Bro. d'Angelo was fricking hilarious.
>I'm just as comfortable at the opera.. as I am at a ball game
He was the perfect trite uninteresting boss. He loved the american southwest. Eyeballed sq footage on rooms "about fifteen hundo?"
le invisible juggling was hilarious. what is your major malfunction
I have terrible taste, but I also liked d’Angelo. I know people say he’s just Will Ferrell playing Will Ferrell and it doesn’t fit with the dry and deadpan humor of the office, but I only watched a few episodes here and there and never the entire series
he was utterly dry and deadpan in the show is the thing, which is what made him so funny
>Eyeballed sq footage on rooms "about fifteen hundo?"
Fricking hilarious. I guess you're right.
I cried when Michael shows up at the wedding
The same as the first however many, I didn't watch them
More like The Offal
season 8 is funny until they go to Florida. Robert has some really good moments. After that it’s dog shit. Nelly and season 9 Andy make it irredeemable. I’m still baffled as to why the writers made Andy so terrible at the end. It’s like they held a personal grudge against Ed helms
Agreed. The forced Pam and Jim marriage drama in 9 was fricking horrendous.
>It’s like they held a personal grudge against Ed helms
they've said in multiple interviews they did, since he announced he was leaving to film movies later in the script process than usual
I've had managers and mentors who acted like Robert. His presence was welcome.
Two sides of the same coin with Michael.
Both are good managers who have their own methods to win in the end at the expense of their ego.
My favorite episode is the one where Michael snaps at Jim about the southern murder mystery game. Best manager.
California was literally based. Base human instinct. He could read a room and glide through. He was ultimately killed by his own hubris.
This show used to be something interesting.
Robert was hysterical
Nellie was also pretty funny, underrated even
I maintain that the worst two seasons of the office are actually season 6 and season 8. They have the most episodes I don't feel like watching. But at no point does the show get truly bad. It stays funny throughout
Did they ever have closure on the film crew always following them around for years ?
How do you mean?
I only watched a few episodes of the office so I might be wrong but it seems like a film crew was following the people who worked at the office. I assume they were doing a documentary (?) so did they ever release "the documentary" in the context of the show?
yes, it was part of the finale
Yes. Some of the film crew actually become characters in the final season, and the last couple episodes have it finally releasing.
The first three seasons are pure kino. 4 and 5 are still very good for the most part. 6 and 7 were okay, with both seasonings having a handful of great episodes. 8 was pretty bad but still watchable. 9 was an atrocity.
will ferell was surprisingly good. i thoguht he would just yell like in idiot like he does in his movies
I don't how anyone who thinks jim and pam were bad in later seasons got through the marriage in season 5. that shit was way worse. way worse
Jim is the worst part of rewatching the show
Kinda, yeah. Dwight is the best part.
Im very glad the Will Ferrell arc ended quick but the show was over when Michael left anyway
At least Pam shows her feet off a ton on her instagram
I feel like if I ever rewatched the show (I wouldn't) then I'd skip them and just stop way earlier
Season 8 was comfy. Robert is based. Season 9 is garbage save for the last 3 or 4 episodes.
This thread is wholly phoneposters.
DeAngelo or Robert California would have been great bosses. The fact there was like 50 at the end made it unwatchable, it ruined the comfy nature of the show.
season 5 ends with michael scott paper company arc and then goes into the gay ass holly arc. the show jumps the shark right when toby leaves
they only made 2 seasons
And a Christmas special
This, except those two seasons are seasons 2 and 3. First one is awful and doesn't count.
5-9 are zombie office
The character of michael was beginning to get tired by about season 6. Let's not make any excuses about this.
He started off as a crass dummy but as the seasons go on it becomes hard not to like the guy. It was reaching a point where his character sort of stopped being believable. So they did the right thing and by season 7 made him basically entirely likable, secretly sage, and really deserving of a happy ending. Season six felt unbelievably strained, idk. I don't think there's a lower point in the series than Michael and Dwight fighting atop a mountain of garbage looking for the lost leads at a landfill.
They put michael out to pasture and sadly there was really nowhere else for his character to go. You don't like to see it but when a star player has past their prime you don't keep them on the roster just because you like them.
he was the main character, and anything afterwards is just a dead show refusing to enter the coffin.
it's literally an ensemble cast anon he was the boss of the office that's all
the show wasn't just going to end after season7 and they could have extended his contract but they didn't. steve didn't "leave" the show.
tfw watching a comfy s3 episode of office
imagine having a dead end job, working for boss who is a moron having a shit pay and benefits, all the while spending 8 hours every day with half a dozen guys who fricked your wife
why did jim JUST himself so hard?
I don't mind most of them. Pink lipped art beta is inexcusable.
nothing past season 3 is watchable
Season 4 is where decline begins. It starts to feel very overtly comedic in season 4. Dinner part is a great episode but michael and jan (melora) are acting like they're on TV if that makes sense.
Season 5 is when they abandon original characterizations (I think Ryan's change made the least sense; he went from the temp to BJ novak). Season five is also when they embraced the full soap opera nature of the show with the "sweet" wedding two parter
season 6 is when michael died
season 7 is when the office (setting) just became a hang out party
the rest is.. yeh
I have never and will never watch them
Spader was based. Elba was underutilized but good. I didn't watch any Nellie episodes. Andy ruined everything as always, terrible character.
anything after Michael left is non canon
>it's a jim gets a little responsibility, gets btfo by his coworkers and has to go running to michael for advice episode
why did they do this so often? The first time was neat but then it happens again and again
jim was smudge and arrogant
I avoided them then and I avoid them now. I generally avoid anything past season 5, or whenever it was when Holly first leaves.
I enjoy Gabe and Erin but can't stand Robert California. I've known many delightfully stupid girls like Erin in my life and enjoy seeing them portrayed on a show.
Gabe was pure Cinemaphile energy and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
gay normie show