How many?

How many Cinemaphile creators did we lose to gaming and streaming? When people bring up why the old indie scene (Newgrounds) died, a big point is that you made more money streaming at a faster rate than making animations.

Aside from Egoraptor, who else ditched making web comics or making animations to become a lets player or streamer?

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Does Oney count
    I know he doesn't treat Oney plays as this super serious brand which is where Arin failed and why Jon split from Game Grumps to begin with, but I can't remember the last time Oney made a proper cartoon

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      does the Video Games music video he did for Tenacious D count?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't animate that

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe it's just me, but it kinda looked like Hobo Hobo did the animation.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Hobo Hobo
            he's gone bro

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Why did he suddenly leave during the peak of his popularity?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I assume that was around the time he aquired his wife, which should tell you everything.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >he did the amazing digital circus before the amazing digital circus
              I kneel

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      does the Video Games music video he did for Tenacious D count?

      Good point.
      Oney has also been involved in Smiling Friends

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I remember he was doing his own videogame too, don't know how that went.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          vaporware just like ding dong and julian's game

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Well at least we know the NAME of Oney's game

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Tf are you talking about? DD and Julian's game's been known since before Bowlbo was even announced, it's called 'Tough Bippy'.

              Be that as it may, it is indeed in development hell as long as Ding Dong continues to be depressed on stream without actually making a change

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Go to bed Arin.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >'duurrr i'm a moron that only sees in black and white'
                I'm fully aware the Dream Daddy situation was fricked up and it's another thing that makes Arin indefensible, but Ding Dong's continuous moping about it where he just drones on about it for the umpteenth time on stream is annoying and it reminds me of when i was an emo 17 year old. It almost feels attention seek-y. Development on his game would be undoubtedly faster if he would at least find better coping mechanisms.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>'duurrr i'm a moron that only sees in black and white'
                >I'm fully aware the Dream Daddy situation was fricked up and it's another thing that makes Arin indefensible, but Ding Dong's continuous moping about it where he just drones on about it for the umpteenth time on stream is annoying and it reminds me of when i was an emo 17 year old. It almost feels attention seek-y. Development on his game would be undoubtedly faster if he would at least find better coping mechanisms.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You are sounding personally butthurt

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                jesus this is what seeing a piece of shit plainly there turding around in front of you feels like.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This is true. Ding Dong should unironically seek therapy.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't realize how many dickriders there were for Oney and his friends around here until being in this thread, especially after seeing replies to this post (assuming it's not just one person samegayging this shit), woulda thought that people that liked to make fun of others online wouldn't be so damn sensitive themselves when their e-celebs get any kind of criticism.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >sure what egoraptor did was bad but the real villains were the people he went after
                if you are trying to convince people you arent egoraptor, you arent doing a good job

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why would Arin be defending DD at all?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                To seem like he isn't Arin. Too bad he's failing, as seen here

                >'duurrr i'm a moron that only sees in black and white'
                I'm fully aware the Dream Daddy situation was fricked up and it's another thing that makes Arin indefensible, but Ding Dong's continuous moping about it where he just drones on about it for the umpteenth time on stream is annoying and it reminds me of when i was an emo 17 year old. It almost feels attention seek-y. Development on his game would be undoubtedly faster if he would at least find better coping mechanisms.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >ding dong and julian
            Are those gays doing anything anymore after everyone threw them under after the grumps drama?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              they stream work on their game weekly.
              nightmare cops came up in a recent oneyplays vid so its not dead.
              bowlbo had a trailer a few years ago.
              egofaptor made some cartoon nobody watched when SF came out.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What was the point of this? Was Arin that upset about Smiling Friends?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you can immediately tell that he didn't actually animate or write this so it's no wonder it didn't get any following, quality aside. Like Smiling Friends is very clearly Michael and Zach's styles and humor, so people who follow either would naturally like it. This is just something he loosely pitched and someone else made it, why would he think his audience would want that and not something from him?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Girlchan was more him actually having fun making a dumb cartoon with his style of humor. Happyland was just his branding slapped on someone else's project.

                Yeah, that sounds about right, it's actually very hard to just change your entire writing style like that.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >biggest animator of peak Newgrounds, foundational Youtube era
                >openly the envy of everyone
                >time passes
                >puts out an animated pilot
                >over a year old and I've never even heard of it
                >over a year old and only half a million views
                I tire of seeing everyone's bullshit eceleb gossip, but this is absolutely about Smiling Friends.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Undeniably. Paid other people to produce it for him too.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Does anyone else hate it when flashbacks are initiated by guy going WOOO WOOO WOOOoo wooo~ ?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                it's a doug reference

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                How did I not hear about this even once? When the frick did this even get uploaded?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I really like the animation. Egoraptor's style always hit this good blend of using just good keyframes with dynamic angles in order to give a good illusion of movement without actually having a lot of inbetweens.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Too bad it isn't his animation. Smallbu did it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I know, but they're using his style as influence, right? Like, they used his past "Awesome Series" videos as a style guide and were trying to mimic it, weren't they?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This whole thing stinks of Arin desperately trying to regain the personality he used to have. All the creativity and energy and humor. Instead he spent the last decade being a fat sack of shit and riding Danny's coattails, and now his midlife crisis is pretending he can still be an animator and an artist.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's like he is trying to imitate a person who doesn't exist anymore when that person was just his older self. I don't think I've seen anything like it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                All this proved is that arin always had the ability to make a full cartoon this entire time but was refusing to do so

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Reaks of shitty millennial weeaboo worship

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Sailor Moon should've never been localized.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I've never seen this posted on Cinemaphile once. How the frick is it possible for a pilot by Arin to never show up on the catalog here?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, because it was so mediocre that it came and went like a fart in the wind.

                Monkey Wrench is mediocre, but at least Zeurel gets made fun of, since he made a couple episodes.
                Arin didnt care to promote happyland, and it got nothing.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I hate everything about this, I don't know how to describe it. He used to actually be funny, this has no fricking delivery. Like what's with all of the "cool" female characters and the spooky scary mascot? It's so fricking boring and safe that it only serves to irritate me. The fricking egoraptor cartoon by siivagunner was better.
                This supposed to be based off his life? It's not interesting, it'd be like if I wrote about working at subway or goodwill.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It was less funny than a single Metal Gear Awesome joke, any of them.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                yo wtf

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Pacing is all over the place. Good animation though

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >posted this a few months after season 1 of smiling friends finished premiering
                He really thought he was going to take attention away from SF.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                i think more "people are gassing up a newgrounds show, they'll surely gas up mine alongside them too!"

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Or "frick those newgrounds guys"

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                it's sad how obvious it is too.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i think more "people are gassing up a newgrounds show, they'll surely gas up mine alongside them too!"

                Which only makes it not even being his animation or writing but simply something with his name on it even worse.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >everyone threw them under after the grumps drama
              What happened?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                A bunch of the people working on Dream Daddy thought it was cringe and gay(er than it's supposed to be) so they told their token gayboy Dingdong that if he went and stood up to Arin about it, they'd all have his back. He was indifferent to it but did it for his supposed friends and then they all hung him out to dry and never backed him up, which got him booted from the game grumps club.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                DD said Dream Daddy was pandering during a stream. Grumps and lovelies went after him. Suzy (I think?) said he never played it before. In actuality workers begged him to speak about it for them (since he's a gay) and threw him under and played dumb afterwards. Matt Watson sent him the game and wrote things for him to say.
                The SrPelo "this is mean" incident took place after all of that bullshit happened too. Ego felt like he could keep pushing his friends around and get his audience to attack them. Gave up animation to try to frick over anyone surrounding him.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get how Arin thought it would be so simple to start a drama with fricking Sr Pelo, the guy is not only just as popular as he is but everybody see him as a cool guy including Arin own fans.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Arin is an emotional moron, he just had some weird impulse or pent-up shit that made him blow up.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              DD is practically a lolcow at this point. Their games most likely arent ever going to see the light of day. They dont have any deadlines to make considering their patreon money allows them to pay rent, and they can e-beg on stream for more. DD just plays retro games on twitch, asks to not bring up drama from literally 7 years ago, yet then brings it up and will continually disavow and shit talk his former fanbase. The dude is actually super unhinged and autistic the more you watch him without an edit. I think Julian does commission work.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They stream work on their game every week bro. It's piss easy to see what they have been up to.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                does spazkid still stream work for nightmare cops? been wanting to see more of it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >pretending dingus is joolian
                were you the homosexual spamming threads begging everyone to raid their streams for you? lol

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Never got the impression dingdong cared but julian does and bans you on stream if you bring it up.
                He made that oldass comic about how much he hating having people bring it up to him.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                At least it seems like Julian actually gets super hurt and upset about things. DD should know better via his time with The Best Gamers. Julian just kinda' got dragged along into fame and it makes sense if he's weird about it.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >DD should know better via his time with The Best Gamers
                elaborate? i'm curious

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                He was Skeeter.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >best gamers
                I will never forget the stream where one of them was drunk and arguing with the chat before giving out his phone number and puking on microphone. Half of them got arrested didnt they?
                Best Gamers/Grumps needed to teach him to stop working with sociopathic warped morons. Julian sperging out every time Oneyplays comes up isnt helping.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I tried to watch a DD stream but when the chat's on sub only mode I leave, even if I didn't plan on chatting.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          His dev team was Albino Moose Games but their contract expired in 2023. So stuck in development hell or most likely cancelled.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I've seen Sonic fangames with quicker progress than this.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Why make something artistic and noteworthy when you can just lay on a couch, have your friends play video games, and screech into a mic for ad revenue? (COMPLETE SERIES)

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Its sad how common this is for these animators. Papa meat did the same shit now he's just doing reactions to shit trending on X or reviewing frozen tv dinners.
                Feels like the only animators still animating are Zach, Harry Partridge and Sexual Lobster.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Meatcanyon still makes animation, It just changed to monthly rather than weekly.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not screaming at animators to get back to drawing but at least have some other creative endeavors outside of fricking Let's Play channels. Chris helped direct the MV for Tenacious D and has done some small things for Smiling Friends. But creatively he doesnt do anything solely by himself anymore. Gameplay? Not him. Editing? Has a team of revolving editors. Thumbnails? Hires different artists for each series.
                I think once you get to a point when you aren't known for your craft you become complacent. Say what you will about that bumbling homosexual Spazkid, at least he can still be considered an artist, even if it is furry shit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                damn, i always thought his thumbnails were by him at least

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I remember hearing him records these like once a week, and spends the rest working on his game

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I mean episodes are like what, half an hour? Take one day sitting around with some buddies playing video games for 8-12 hours and that's enough episodes for like two weeks.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I thought he was making it himself this whole time.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          vaporware just like ding dong and julian's game

          Well at least we know the NAME of Oney's game

          Did he get any backer money from that? I hope not. my biggest gripe with the Sleepycabin guys is they take money from their fans in exchange for big promises without delivering on much

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Also doing the music on nightmare cops

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        he's credited with the outro music, has he done anything else on the show? animation or voices?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Hasn't done any voices as far as I know, but I THINK he did the 3D render of the alien that breaks out of the TV at the end of the pilot episode.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >O'Neill composed the closing theme for Smiling Friends (Brown Smile) and voiced Smormu in "Shrimp's Odyssey" as well as the "Auditioning Father" in "Mr. Frog". He also provided the basic 3D sculpt of Satan, among other various animation, music and 3D effects.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He also made the thing that did the cool spin on TV
            Chris also has made tons of art and 3D animations as gags for Oneyplays and even did this thing a while back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqz9x5JD-aQ

            Arin has made ONE cartoon in the past decade

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          he did voice on a couple episodes, according to the credits. But not sure which characters were him.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Who hasn't been involved with Smiling Friends?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Arin.

          😀

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Egoraptor, Stamper, uhhh... Linkara?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Linkara will come, trust the plan.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              linkara doesn't have the self awareness to be willing to let jokes be jokes. he genuinely hates them for their lightbringer jokes. I feel like we'll pretty much see every old internet guy on the show before Linkara even acknowledges the show exists.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I think they're kinda' out of people. Maybe AVGN or Chris Bores but even those are stretches.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                James Rolfe has already been on the show. You could get other guys like Mike Matei and Chris Bores. You could even get random old viral guys like Tay Zonday(it'd fit in if they make him come on and do some random weird ass song like Alien Christmas)

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah they're basically out then. Tay Zonday has not cultural cache anymore. It would be like getting the Star Wars kid on.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                that'd fit right in though. they aren't getting modern viral guys on the show, they're getting random dudes that blew up 20 years ago that they like. Like Chills isn't some modern viral dude, he was the Number 15 Burger King Foot Lettuce guy from like 10 years ago but they had him on season 1

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I think the way they work is getting more like cultural staples I guess. That or like the weird goofy guys they personally like. I don't think they're just hunting for meme guys in general.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They don't care if they're popular now they get guys because they personally like them. When was the last time anyone heard peep from David Firth?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Me 🙁

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          still no Cory Spazkid cameo or animated scene yet... just a reference to his story about sticking a CD holder up his ass.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          hotdiggetydemon

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Eddsworld

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Edd died just before the era of animator turned lets player started
            Would he have also jumped on the streaming bandwagon? he and Harry always seemed the most passionate about animation, but on the other hand, not everyone has XTC money to finance their lifestyle

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I assume Oney doesn't really animate anymore because he started learning blender and sculpting and making a 3D cartoon isn't really as fun of an undertaking as 2D. That's why the only one he did was that Final Fantasy one

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >cranks out maybe one animation every two years
      >just does a LP channel and pretends to make a video game
      People would say he doesn't because they like him but I think he absolutely counts.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I miss when he did made cartoons.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    thing is, if your whole reason for drawing or making cartoons and comics was MONEY, then I'm kind of glad when these fricks find something else to do so they don't shit it all up with their trash and the people with actual passion are more visible.
    Fact was, there were tons of great webcomics but the artists who bit others and spend most of their time creating controversy or doing 'guest' comics or focusing 100% on advertising and shilling themselves on every other site had bad output, long hiatuses, terrible stories.
    Meanwhile the great artists, surprising no one, spent ALL their time making great art and illustrating great stories that blew the others out of the water. But they never advertised well, had poor SQL and didn't do guest shit or promo for promo (most were never part of the drama infested 'community' at all) and when it became clear that the commenters that said more than 'great! I like jokes!' and 'first' were concentrated around the better comics the hustlers got jealous and frequently dogpiled them or gatekept them out of getting seen.
    Same as it ever was. But yeah, glad Egoraptor and all other fricking butthole morons who only every gave a frick about coin are gone in their little children's play pen of scamming kids with sob stories for a donation.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >First statement
      Most of the indie Newgrounds scene was populated by teenagers learning Flash so they could self-teach themselves how to animate. No duh they would drop animation when they became an adult and needed to start paying bills.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This, simple as that. All these people crying about them being in it for the money are all very likely NEETS who don't have to pay any expenses

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          thing is, if your whole reason for drawing or making cartoons and comics was MONEY, then I'm kind of glad when these fricks find something else to do so they don't shit it all up with their trash and the people with actual passion are more visible.
          Fact was, there were tons of great webcomics but the artists who bit others and spend most of their time creating controversy or doing 'guest' comics or focusing 100% on advertising and shilling themselves on every other site had bad output, long hiatuses, terrible stories.
          Meanwhile the great artists, surprising no one, spent ALL their time making great art and illustrating great stories that blew the others out of the water. But they never advertised well, had poor SQL and didn't do guest shit or promo for promo (most were never part of the drama infested 'community' at all) and when it became clear that the commenters that said more than 'great! I like jokes!' and 'first' were concentrated around the better comics the hustlers got jealous and frequently dogpiled them or gatekept them out of getting seen.
          Same as it ever was. But yeah, glad Egoraptor and all other fricking butthole morons who only every gave a frick about coin are gone in their little children's play pen of scamming kids with sob stories for a donation.

          There's a sleepycabin where they talk about this exactly. I think it was Hadel, Stamper, Chris, and maybe Corey. They say exactly that you shouldn't get into animation for the money, because it pays shit and you'll hate your life.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            There's always some dumbass who shows up to say, "art should be about love, not success," and it's always missing the point.

            Every artist loves what they do, or else they wouldn't do it. Arin didn't love animation that much, and he was interested in money, so he went where the money was. Where animators get sour today is that they get marginalized in favor of content that's simply faster and runs more ads for the platform, which is a monopoly. Even somewhere like Netflix everything is run through an awful, algorithmic wringer that has decided nothing should get promoted if it wasn't successful before it went live. You just can't be seen these days. You can make the art because you love it, but good luck showing it to people.

            This isn't a choice the artists make. The platforms just go, "Yeah, an AI generated script completes production much faster and runs more ads. Sorry humans". And naturally there's no way to really sustain a lack of attention. People make art with the dream of getting noticed and having fans. If you wanted to make art only for yourself, you'd never post it online.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I agree that all of that sucks, but it's always been like that to some extent. You can't make the same argument that people do about "it used to be so much easier to get a job," because animation is a field where that is objectively untrue. The tools that people like Egoraptor and Oney used to learn how to do art didn't exist in the pre-internet era; if you wanted to be a professional animator your only real option was to pay a shitload of money to get into a (fairly exclusive) arts college. The accessibility of being an artist now is higher than it ever has been in history.
              Moreover, the accessibility of showing your art to people is the same, if that's your only goal. You can plaster your work all over the internet and guarantee that people will see it. Cinemaphile itself is pretty good for this, but you've also got Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Imgur, etc. The problem is what "success" looks like on the internet. 15 views on something you animated on YouTube is fricking nothing, but if you got 15 people in a bar to all watch your 5 minute animation without spitting in your face, you'd be thrilled. It's only the context that makes it look bad.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Usually a person like yourself giving this kind of advice has either never tried to actually get anywhere with art, or you already made by some kind of algorithmic slop where you mash a bunch of popular keywords together, and you don't really realize what you're doing because it's just kinda how your brain works.

                Rarely, you'll meet someone who's been doing it for five or six years and maybe just recently started getting some audience growth, and they'll tell you they don't know what changed because they don't control it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >you just don't get it, maaaan
                Cool, thanks for wasting my time. You're so caught up in your bitterness over not "making it" that you didn't even read what I said.
                You don't want to make art, you want to make money doing art. These are different things. If you just wanted to make things and show them to people, that's more possible now than it ever was. You should realize that for every Zach Hadel there's about 15 Stampers, and every Stamper is more successful than about 50 people no one can even name. This has always been the case. History is littered with dead artists who were never recognized. We remember people like Van Gogh and Bob Ross because they were the exceptions.
                You are not owed exceptionalism, and it's overwhelmingly likely that you'll never be able to do art as your only job. That's why people tell you not to get into it for that reason. Do it because you like it, show it to people if you want, but don't become a jaded prick because the world doesn't shower you in adoration and cash for it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What you said, is to post on Cinemaphile and stuff.

                So hey, link me to a post here in Cinemaphile that's talking about a new animation that dropped this month.

                See, everyone who's not doing what you say is dumb and has the wrong mindset, and ought to be pulling harder on those bootstraps. The markets aren't real. They don't affect anything if you have sovl.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I said you can post it on Cinemaphile and anywhere else if your only goal is to get people to see it. There's people doing exactly that on this website, on this board, right now.

                [...]


                I agree that making it a career is borderline impossible. The point is that this is expected and normal, and no one ever told you otherwise.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That's a beggar's example you're trying to pull with that link.

                But hey, if you're such a genius, why not just admit that you don't actually know anything and don't have any valuable advice for anyone.

                "Do art if you love it," is what every artist already does. You can't follow that up with, "But also I never said art should be seen by anyone". What I understand from this is that you're a mix of judgemental and moronic. You don't know anything about art, or how people get work in it, or why they do it, or what the markets are doing. You give advice like, "Remember you have to wish on pixie dust, but wishes don't always come true!"

                You are a dumbass. You know nothing. Your perspective is without value. A five year old can offer the same advice and at least a little kid's heart would be in the right place.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm telling you to adjust your expectations to reality instead of being a miserable frick for no good reason. It's especially great that I gave you exactly what you asked for and you just sat "well it sucks, so it doesn't count." Now who's judgemental?
                I have a genuine talent for writing and have even gotten some of my work included in small publications, which makes me more successful as a writer than probably 99% of all people who want to write professionally. Guess what? No one knows who I am either. No one gives a singular shit. If I quit my job tomorrow and decided to dedicate all my time to writing, I'd probably be homeless within two months. This sucks, but it's life.
                I could, in the face of this, give myself over to bitterness and rage about how the only thing that sells is YA fantasy or Romance fantasy, or how I'd have to work for years as a copy editor to even have the slimmest chance of making it in a publishing house, or how AI can do basically anything I can well enough for most people, or any other number of objective facts that don't suit my personal preferences. Instead, I write as a hobby and show it to my friends because it makes me happy to do so. Every once in a while I try to get a short story published. This is satisfactory for me because I make it enough for me. Try it sometime.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You are telling me NOTHING. You know NOTHING.

                This is not useful advice. It's just lickspittle nonsense about "the real world". You are stupid. I don't know to explain to you that all that shit you typed is of no value to anyone, but it's of no value. "Not everyone succeeds my dude," is just so much nothing to be saying. It's painfully inobservant.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but what is your goal here. What are you arguing about? Anon seems to be saying "Do art when you can, share it how you can, you probably won't get lucky enough to make money or anything so enjoy the process" and then you start yelling at them about how it's stupid bullshit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                So, there's actual analysis you can do regarding SEO and the way modern platforms work if you're serious.

                You want to be seen. Ignore this wienersucker telling you that good artists are worker bees who don't complain. Very few of my professional colleagues and acquaintances fit that description, and although they do work, you don't have to lap down a gallon of corporate cum for it.

                To make it short, online entertainment is bullshit right now. Google is a vertically integrated monopoly. You have to be on Youtube, and they decide what's going to be promoted via internal tweaks you don't get to see. You can work on content in your spare time, but if you want anything online within a year, you have to really limit how artsy you get. You wanna makes rigs, and be very dialogue focused. Main reason for that is just because odds are very good that what you make won't be seen, so if you spend a year on some beautifully rendered 3d model for a zoom out or something, you'll have a gun in your mouth when all that work nets maybe a hundred views. Hard work is just not something the site promotes anymore, with a few exceptions, but you can't really copy someone like Worthikids or anyone cool because there's this whole package and history you can't repeat.

                In terms of actual studio work - work in children's programming. It's pretty much where the bulk of openings are going to be.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Basically
                If you want to be seen, you can not ever ever ever trusth google or youtube.
                Hell it's fricking stupid as hell to even think those bastards are on your side in the first place.

                There's a reason the soulless pervert israelites homosexuals and pedophiles talking head late night hosts and news anchors are pushed nonstop on your feed and stuff that has show to not only complete but 100% dominate typical propoganda laced bullshit of MSM and modern media is oft hidden and deplatformed.

                Build your own website
                Build your own social media presence
                Use youtube as your video hosting site
                Link back to your website and patreon paypal etc.

                Create your own following and nurture and protect it and tr to grow it.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >There's a reason the soulless pervert israelites homosexuals and pedophiles talking head late night hosts and news anchors are pushed nonstop on your feed
                Cause you have psychosis?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You're not exactly the first dude to ever say "trying to make it as an artist is a bunch of bullshit" either, anon. It's a common sentiment and I agree with you.
                The question is what you do with that. What's your suggestion? Just not do art at all? Do that, then. It's not anyone's problem but yours.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm with you, pal. I spent my teenage years idolizing the likes of Egoraptor, Psychicpebbles, OneyNG, and the other Newgrounds animators mentioned ITT. Them being "one-man studios" inspired me to teach myself Flash & make my own cartoons in my free time. Will I ever be as famous as them? Not likely. But I keep at it anyway because I like making animated shorts. I've even gotten to work on a streaming show.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This but with games for me. There are so many quality indie games now that I have no clue if I'll be able to stick out, but I'll keep making them either way. If it works out, sweet. If not, I'll still have fun doing it and getting a few people to play my stuff.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                why the frick are you not trying to publish your own novel you fool it's the only way to get rich

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm with you, pal. I spent my teenage years idolizing the likes of Egoraptor, Psychicpebbles, OneyNG, and the other Newgrounds animators mentioned ITT. Them being "one-man studios" inspired me to teach myself Flash & make my own cartoons in my free time. Will I ever be as famous as them? Not likely. But I keep at it anyway because I like making animated shorts. I've even gotten to work on a streaming show.

                This but with games for me. There are so many quality indie games now that I have no clue if I'll be able to stick out, but I'll keep making them either way. If it works out, sweet. If not, I'll still have fun doing it and getting a few people to play my stuff.

                Enjoying the process of art is a wonderful thing. Obviously being seen is nice, but if you can't look at it by yourself and say "this is good" and "that was fun" then what's the point? Why go into such a grueling process that doesn't pay as well as other jobs to then not find intrinsic value in it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                By default, every artist loves art and the process of making art. Being able to love the work you do isn't what sets anyone apart or makes them special. Gaining some experience in the field can set you apart somewhat, but how and why is going to vary.

                I said you can post it on Cinemaphile and anywhere else if your only goal is to get people to see it. There's people doing exactly that on this website, on this board, right now.
                [...]

                I agree that making it a career is borderline impossible. The point is that this is expected and normal, and no one ever told you otherwise.

                For example, this "Blimbo" thing would be a REALLY good example of a project you'd want to avoid. Even if you're passionate about doing art, stuff this tends to be run by complete goddamn morons who'll run you over and second-guess your expertise. You might have a perfectly good understanding of what needs to be done to make a cartoon, but doing indie projects can often mean working under a boss who does not know what they're doing, and who might mismanage the project so badly that it never gets completed.

                Those are projects you should always negotiate payment for in advance. In fact, you should always be thinking about pay any time you're doing work for something with the premise of being "smarter than" something else, or when an amateur starts talking about how their show will hook into modern algorithmic trends. You can do work for free if you really like the people involved, but in something that's going to get de-railed, you'll be dragged into a bunch of arguments and spend a ton of time investing into nothing. It'll never get released and you might not even be able to use it in a portfolio.

                Creating a cartoon can be a one man job, but it by nature often winds up involving other people. That alone means that you have to go a bit beyond "the love of the craft" and think a little about organization, how to work with others, and what the end product will mean for all of you.

                The Spongebob fry cook stuff where you're just happy to work and you never complain isn't very realistic, and most people grow out of it, or at the least into a more professional and experienced take on the whole idea of loving your job.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        The newgrounds animators that took up the trade professionally are struggling in one way or another. I’m glad I married a newgrounds man that does programming because an animator’s life is hellish.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't know egoraptor existed until game grumps anyway so none of this means anything to me. When the newgrounds golden age was happening I was smoking weed and browsing fark.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's one of the reasons why western comics and cartoons look like shit today. A lot of those potential talents never blossomed because they wasted their precious impressionable years playing games instead of being creative.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    hotdiggetydemon but supposedly Max has fibromyalgia, like a woman

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ins't he still making animation and drawings and just give up of making it a living. Egoraptor just stopped animating and drawing and said he never liked being an artist.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I had stop liking egoraptor for long before he said he "only wanted to be a voice actor" and that still shoked me more then it should when I heard it for the first time.
        I even kept being subscribed to his original channel for years after hating him, then one day he just uploads some gaming shit, I couldn't fricking believe the amount of disrespect. Figuratively stepping on a grave that made him.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Backstabbed his cohost, fricked over his best friend, tried to irreversibly destroy the lives of his best friend's friends, and lastly tried to bomb the reputation of the fricking website that made him popular to begin with. Remember when people used to say he was /ourguy/ and were rooting for him to win The Tester? There was so much hope for this butthole and all he did was betray every last person he knew. There is something satisfying about seeing Smiling Friends airing since every person he tried to frick over ended up fine.
          His legacy is being mad about a Zelda game and failing to read tutorials. Nobody honestly recognizes Ego as an animator anymore. Nearly all of his peers got way ahead of him regarding talent. If this moron didn't try to frick so much up for people we probably would have gotten shows like Smiling Friends sooner.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The only thing sadder than a parasocial obsession is an angerly parasocial obsession.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Kys Arin

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I still wonder how hard Arin is seething about Smiling Friends' existence

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >throws his lot in with the sellout animation storytime crowd
              >ends up burning bridges that would've probably landed him an actual real voice acting role on a popular show
              oh how the worm turns

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Enough to make that shitty pilot

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I think it's hilarious how Matt Papa, ex-Producer at Inti Creates got Arin to voice a boss character for the English dub of Luminous Avenger iX 2 and Arin didn't promote the game and refused to acknowledge it because Inti are a very blatant e-girlcon otaku studio (See: Kohaku's design) and he knew if he did, his audience would eat him alive and thus Matt made Inti pay extra to Arin for fricking nothing.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              What? Paid extra?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Because its TEH ARIN HANSON he was the most expensive English VA Inti has had to pay for.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Backstabbed his cohost
            >fricked over his best friend
            >tried to irreversibly destroy the lives of his best friend's friends
            >tried to bomb the reputation of the fricking website that made him popular to begin with
            I barely heard much about Egoraptor since I've not been in those circles for a long while, so I'd like to humbly request a storytime.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Its nothing special its exactly as greentexted.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >/ourguy/
            I remember he doxxed himself and then complained to Cinemaphile that nobody was man enough to buy him a dragon dildo, so he did it "live" in thread.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I remember when this guy shoved a dildo up his ass to prove he wasn't gay.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Truthfully, it's his b***h of a wife's fault for the way he is now. Arin isn't inherently malicious but he is easily manipulated into doing what others want. Suzy is genuinely a shitty person.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >he is easily manipulated into doing what others want
              This is so real
              I hadnt watched them in years, but during Janaury/February, I got the nostalgic urge to check in on those fricks, and in the few sporadic videos I watched, his speech patterns were different depending on the era
              There was a period where he had Chris's Elmo/Monkey laugh, then another period where he'd end every sentence with "eh" because he'd been hanging out with Canadians
              Man's a fricking husk of a human being

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Backstabbed his cohost, fricked over his best friend, tried to irreversibly destroy the lives of his best friend's friends, and lastly tried to bomb the reputation of the fricking website that made him popular to begin with. Remember when people used to say he was /ourguy/ and were rooting for him to win The Tester? There was so much hope for this butthole and all he did was betray every last person he knew. There is something satisfying about seeing Smiling Friends airing since every person he tried to frick over ended up fine.
          His legacy is being mad about a Zelda game and failing to read tutorials. Nobody honestly recognizes Ego as an animator anymore. Nearly all of his peers got way ahead of him regarding talent. If this moron didn't try to frick so much up for people we probably would have gotten shows like Smiling Friends sooner.

          I mean the Ding Dong incident was the ultimate proof he's a cold ruthless pragmatic sociopath and no one sane would be anywhere near him.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          his voice isn't desirable enough for that to be an option. the only thing i've heard him do is his normal loud manchild default and DAMN RIGHT homie, MM-MMM. actually, his newgrounds stuff seemed to have effort in trying different voices

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ins't he still making animation and drawings and just give up of making it a living. Egoraptor just stopped animating and drawing and said he never liked being an artist.

      crazy that steven israeliteniverse is enough to lose a chance at a career

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I really don't believe this narrative, I think the guy just suffer from crippling depression and some other problems so he's unable to work with a team or everyday for a couple of years. It seems clear Jerry Episode 1 was him describing himself.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I've heard anecdotes that he's just very difficult to work with. abrasive, but also thin skinned.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          wisenheimers proved that. spent ten minutes ranting about spazkid's wgj4k parody.

        • 1 week ago
          guy

          Better than porn

          Considering how few can draw as well as him, it’s certainly difficult

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Max is very good when it comes to animating. His actual drawing ability isn't noteworthy.

            • 1 week ago
              guy

              >an animator is good at animating
              There’s no reason to post this besides to struggle for any victories even if purely imaginary

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >There’s no reason to post this besid-
                You said how few people can draw like him. Stop having your own imaginary fight inside your head.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Namegay over there thrives on conflict in lieu of actual human interaction.

                He'll take a contrarian stance on just about anything and takes particular pleasure in factionalism like owl house vs amphibia.

                Remind him he's pathetic and then disengage so he can't resolve his cognitive dissonance with a dopamine hit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, this is the same guy who unironically likes SU.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Doing essentially the same thing

                We are the crystal gems, and we'll always ruin your day, and if you think we can't that means you're fake and gay.

              • 1 week ago
                guy

                Shut up boil, I don’t want to see your gay ass struggle against accepting truth

                Namegay over there thrives on conflict in lieu of actual human interaction.

                He'll take a contrarian stance on just about anything and takes particular pleasure in factionalism like owl house vs amphibia.

                Remind him he's pathetic and then disengage so he can't resolve his cognitive dissonance with a dopamine hit.

                I love how demented you are to avoid what I actually say about the Owl House, etc.

                Exactly, this is the same guy who unironically likes SU.

                Rebecca Sugar and myself were online students of John K. I have my own setting of Ring monsters that do cosmic invasions. Her series languished because John K student sensibilities had no acceptance, only the expectation to be corrupted.

                guy also appears in other related animation drama on this board. i think is just a random ill person(s) that projects a lot in others they look up to, rather than a e-celeb.

                You are getting yourself off about being in the “in-crowd” and not knowing who outsiders are. The in-crowd of Burbank have failed to make cartoons people like.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Reminder that you're pathetic. Disengaging now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                lol sure buddy

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >guy shows up out of nowhere once max is criticized, yet again, to jerk him off

            aight max we all know its you

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              guy also appears in other related animation drama on this board. i think is just a random ill person(s) that projects a lot in others they look up to, rather than a e-celeb.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Most of it are shitposting rather than actual support, he's clearly the same person who makes those Zeurel bashing threads then change his name to guy to pretend he's defending him.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Better than porn
            And you don't seem to understand...

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Egoraptor definitely has made porn, you can look that shit up rule 34, it was some gurren lagann shit. He reanimated an animation because he saw it and said to himself "I can make a better animation than this.".

            • 1 week ago
              guy

              I’m speaking in general, about life paths.

              Reminder that you're pathetic. Disengaging now.

              You lost. Can’t even goon at me anymore without being called out on it.

              lol sure buddy

              Are you referring to my Rings project? You know it actually exists right and you can go look at the similarities to Rebecca sugar’s work yourself?

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone explain to me why his last attempt of creating a cartoon was so bad?

    Girlchan in paradise was a great premise and every single joke was funny, I know content creators usually get worse after reaching some peak but it feels like 2 totally different people. It went from 100% funny jokes to 0% good jokes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Girlchan was more him actually having fun making a dumb cartoon with his style of humor. Happyland was just his branding slapped on someone else's project.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Tomar carried Girlchan I guess. PokeAwesome 2 was such fricking garbage.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because he was never any good.
      In his newsgrounds days he was considered a no talent homosexual when only got shine because he prostituted himself online as an early celeb and picked the balls of the newsgrounds mods.

      Name two of his works that are as well known as....super Mario Brothers z. I'm dead fricking serious

      And the only reason this crossdressing power bottom homosexual and his half caste unfunny sandbigger butt buddy are where they are in YouTube's algorithm is because they were picked up back when YouTube wanted to pull the talents away from newsgrounds and gave him an in.
      That and the sandBlack person bought views and subs with his desert jiggaboo money.

      The fricking losers are grandfathered in and given preferential treatment in spite of them having no REAL popularity nor apparent talent.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >super Mario Brothers z
        SMBZ MENTIONED! WOOOOOOOO

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Harmony > Flash, that's just a fact.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Welcome to the Newgrounds Retirement Home.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Pico's School? More like Run Hide Fight.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Pico's School? More like Run Hide Fight.
      What did he mean by this?

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You think Zone ever goes on Cinemaphile these days? I was under the assumption he was Mr. Cinemaphile.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Zone supports the skullgirls censorship and retired

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Tragic.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Where were you back in 2015 when they censored the panty shots?

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >a big point is that you made more money streaming at a faster rate than making animations.
    Yet a lot of them put out higher effort content more regularly before the switch to youtube and monetization.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The most annoying thing about the Game Grumps fandom might be how when they draw the cast (Arin, Danny, Suzy) they always draw Suzy like some cutesy straightman saint. She's just a b***h.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This was the guy who didn't want to work with Jontron?

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Rob DenBleyker. He used to make edgy stick cartoons for Newgrounds before he hit it big (relatively) with C&H.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I liked his stuff when I was a child but found it obnoxious rewatching a few years ago, so it's probably for the best that he stopped animating considering it'd probably be the same kind of juvenile humor he used from way back when. Past that, I couldn't care less about this gay and autistic back and forth between his fandom and fandoms of other entertainers like this thread seems to highlight every time his name comes up.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Kids nowadays dont COMPREHEND how popular this guy was in the animation community. Le old game grumps guy. He used to dwarf Zach hadel and Chris. If you think the love for Zach is obnoxious. Chris was a massive groupie for Arin too.
    Is crazy how he's the washed up game grumps guy
    This tastes like egoraptor

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yup, that's why Game Grumps immediately became super popular in the first place. People liked JonTron too, but Egoraptor was the big name.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Is crazy how he's the washed up game grumps guy
      Dude's a millionaire from selling out and doing stupid childish shit with more than enough left over to help fund other people's projects, while I can barely keep my fricking head above water with my business doing a craft I've loved and cultivated my entire life. Hate the unfunny homosexual all you want for his animated content, but you can't call him washed up, he's simply doing a responsible thing as an adult and ensuring his future is secured.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Arin's successful in the way lottery winners are successful. He jumped on the full-time youtuber trend at the right time, had the right people around him to make it work for him, instead of having to do anything himself, and then coasted for years. Without literally everyone else around him doing the work, including people at youtube and a large MCN, Arin would be nowhere and he'd just be that guy who made some popular cartoons in the early 00s, which is all he is today.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >a strong network with influential people that can get you an in for profitable avenues ensures success
          You don't fricking say? How long did it take you to realize that talent and skill is secondary to the people you know?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >if someone hands me a million dollars that means I earned it and worked hard

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              He wasn't handed money for doing nothing. He built a name and reputation with his talent as an animator, which got his foot in the door with people who had good connections in various industries, which in turn helped turn what he gained through talent into something that allowed him to branch out and get more work doing other things he wanted to do that don't involve animation, which in turn expanded his network even further giving him more opportunities, standard business shit, this homosexualy bickering over who got their feelings hurt the most because he didn't discontinued work on his Sonic's Shit-Covered Dick project nearly a decade ago is irrelevant.

              what craft do you do?

              Blacksmithing.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Smithing Blacks for a living
                Please stop we have too many.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what craft do you do?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He inspired your favorite web animators

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I have never watched a Game Grumps episode. I have zero interest in 99% of LPs and video game walkthroughs or whatever. So in my heart of hearts, I will always consider him Egoraptor.

      In fact, I'm kind of moronic so when people say his full name as "Arin Hanson", I briefly think of pic related first and then Egoraptor second.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Did Arin ever have a passion for animation, or did he just use his cartoons as a vehicle for doing funny voices?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, for the former, you can clearly see a timeline of him improving in his old flash cartoons.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, his stuff was looking awesome towards the end.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          there was an unusual ammount of effort on them that extremely few animators would have on their animations which makes his claims that he never cared all the more bizarre

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I only know irrelevant ones we lost, shows how non-dedicated they are.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >gave up animating to become famous for sucking at games
    strange career path

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when they sold their dead friend's personal gift at a yard sale and it was bundled with a note from him that hey never even read

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The Arin he is ashamed of from the past was a much friendlier guy. People wanted to be like him. What the hell happened man

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically? Political brainrot and fear of being cancelled thus jeopardizing his income.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Wokeness, unironically
      Yet despite all of his lambasting and throwing former friends under the bus, Oney's the one who had a transgender friend who used to regularly guest appear on his show

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you mean the troony who never came back on the channel?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Oney's the one who had a transgender friend who used to regularly guest appear on his show
        It's almost like Oney was always just being humorous while Arin was legit about needing to lock himself in his car to scream NNIIIGGEEERRRR 15 times after shaking hands with a black fan at a con.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Arin was legit about needing to lock himself in his car to scream NNIIIGGEEERRRR 15 times after shaking hands with a black fan at a con.
          That's why he was /ourguy/

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Also Oney is a filthy lucky charms, ginger potato farmer, Taig.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Are Ricepirate and JhonnyUTAH still friends with ONey? Or Zach?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Mick "powermove" Lauer is not friends with them anymore.
      JohnnyUtah is.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    People love talking about this guy's personal life a lot, huh?

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It sucks, but independant animation just isn't a viable source of income compared to other forms of content

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I remember when a fan made Awesome Racer, a Speed Racer parody, and the Newgrounds community said it “wasn’t good” and didn’t feel like a good representation of an Egoraptor animation.

    Then Egoraptor said it was one of his favorite Awesome parodies he’d seen and hopes that dude keeps on animating more stuff, and the Newgrounds community started praising it and changed their voting scores.

    Egoraptor is one of the coolest dudes to ever exist. Arin Hanson isn’t. Simple ass.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It turns out you get less cool with age. It happens to most of us.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Damn

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >a fan
      Awesome Racer was actually made by hotdiggedydemon, who also looked up to Arin back then.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually hilarious, Arin's such a cuck he let Suzy talk him out of his dream of animating, kek. He even refers to it as a "pipe dream" in his video he made for her, ultra keks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If she didn't, he'd be a burned out troon at this point. She basically saved his life.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't trooned out yet and I agree that she's probably the only reason he hasn't

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          He's going to pull a bruce jenner and use trooning out as a get out of jail card when he fricks up big time.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Unlike most girls, Suzy is smart. And cute. And funny. And adorable. And kind.

      KEK did she write this and make him read it

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    do you think Cory Spazkid will ever make an actual cartoon, or is he too busy drawing porn to make one?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean? He made Sonichu: The Animated Series.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i mean a real one, like his own either independent series along the lines of digital circus/monkey wrench/happyland/hazbin or something for adult swim or whatever.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          For the most part those are all budgeted studio jobs, and the studio is using an artist as a figurehead because they artist is already recognized as a topic by the promotional machine.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >happyland
          Thought you'd sneak that one past us huh Arin?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            it's an example, even if it's shit.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              It's not, it's a shitty animatic arin slapped his name and voice on to try and trick his autistic fanbase he hadn't given up on animation a long time ago, the joke is the fanbase he has now doesn't even know what an egoraptor was.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I hope we'll see Season 2 Episode 2 soon.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          That’s never going to happen because Spaz regrets making the series and hates people who bring it up.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What does making it mean?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Being happy just to have been a worker for the studio or corporate plafform.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame that Jon punched Suzy and Suzy punched Jon and he's the Sheriff and we're out here

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe I fell for it dang

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Whenever I think about Arin and Suzy, this scene from Super Grep Simulator springs into my mind.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Great video

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Nostalgic

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's the fricking "Barry" with the glass of wine at 0:11 that gets me every time.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't Suzy try to get this taken down with copyright strikes?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      What the hell I never realized this was animated by the horse furry man

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This just makes me sad, it was a time before we knew how awful everything would get

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nightmare Cops literally never

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why never though ?

  31. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bald manbaby who made those pony animations.mov, cant mention his name cause jannies hate him

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      but this other guy mentioned him

      hotdiggetydemon

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Oney still animates he made King Krazy with his pal Adam
    >1 year ago
    What the frick

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