How many problems would Batman solve if he just killed the Joker?
How many problems would Batman solve if he just killed the Joker?
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Gotham would make a holiday after that and Batman would be a national hero.
their version of Gandalf raping day
The DC Universe would magically make up some bullshit to fuck up Batman.
>For God's sake no. Even if I somehow held it together long enough to molest that pasty white ass, I could never look at myself the same way. I so wished that I could hurt him in ways that only he be hurt. Even after 5 rounds and a wig, I couldn't bring myself to do it. I'm afraid that if I slip my dick into that skinny unwashed butthole, I could never return.
>How many problems would Batman solve if he just killed the Joker?
None. Batman doesn't kill isn't because of restraint — it's trauma. Matter of fact, him not killing keeps him from going further into insanity.
Why can you autists never use your imagination and answer a simple question.
>Retard OP seethes that his totally "original" question is not answered to his liking
Not the OP, I just see posts like these every time a hypothetical question is given and it is tiring.
It's a "What-If", I doubt OP is Bendis who's gonna take your thoughts to heart and include them in a mainline Batman run. What's wrong with just thinking about a what-if scenario.
fine I'll bite if it makes you feel better. It would solve a ton of fucking issues where modern joker is concerned. The fuck that Batman doesn't at very least allow Jason to just do it and take the burden of killing off his shoulders is non sense to me. But trying to make sense of Cape Comics is like trying to tell your mother not to slob on my knob. It's a pointless endeavor. Better?
>the fact that batman
>nonsense
was gonna bother me if I didn't correct myself.
>The fuck that Batman
Heh.
>But trying to make sense of Cape Comics
Why do that to yourself? Why not just have casual fun with reading cape stuff like you're usually meant to. If you over analyze a genre like this you won't gain much fun out of it, that's just what I think though, thanks for sharing your thoughts anon.
>Why do that to yourself?
I don't thats my point, as much as I don't like mass killer joker I don't sit around and speculate what would be different if he would just kill him. I enjoy cape for what it is.
You're the autist who doesn't understand it doesn't matter anyways cuz these stories will never end.
I got you
Who cares, we won't have any fun stories if he killed him, these are never ending characters retard.
or...OR people can stop the joker wank, and reel it the fuck back with the killing he does.
Joker a villain who rarely kills and not physical threat at all like 70's to 90's till later 90's really changed shit.
I always thought it would be cool if the Joker had a No-Kill rule like the Batman in a twisted mirror sort of way.
Also removes the issue of the genocide level of murders he'd have when caught.
Likely none, given the point of comics is the fantastic conflicts, Joker's death would likely just lead to something filling his vacuum.
That might actually be funny make Joker gas really excruciating though. The idea of it just being absolutely a horrible ordeal as a kid fucked me up for a while.
Many. So many.
1.
The Joker
Well joker himself would no longer be able to commit crimes, but I’m sure he’d have copycat killers, plus all batmans other rogues would still exist
All
None
There’s always another reboot
The most comprehensive, up-to-date list (going up to July 2021) totalled Joker as having murdered 3051 people onscreen in canon as of 2 years ago
https://listofdeaths.fandom.com/wiki/The_Joker_(Kill_Count)
So 3051 problems
None. There's just one more killer out in the world.
>implying Joker wouldn't just come back to life whether by lazarus pit, cloning, necromancy, or any of the other fucktillion reasons he's come back despite seemingly dying a brutal hideous death
None of those have happened except the lazarus pit, and that was because BRUCE put him in the lazarus pit. Joker has never died once in canon.
>Detective Comics #64
>June, 1942
>The Joker decides to surrender himself to the Gotham City Police Department and confesses all his past crimes. The list is too long and the penalty for him is death. Sentenced to die in the electric chair, Joker complies and soon he is officially declared dead. However, this was all just a ruse and soon, the Joker is taken out of the morgue by some of his henchmen and revived with a special serum.
>The Joker is now free to roam the streets once again without fear of being taken to jail, since he was already executed for all his crimes.
Burger laws really!?
Yep. Cause charging a formerly dead man for crimes he's already been executed for would be "double jeopardy". Obviously.
Dick killed the Joker during Last Laugh.
Legally dead.
Batman did CPR till he came back.
Last Laugh was not canon and was set on Earth 32
Last Laugh was a line-wide crossover in the early 00’s, it was 100% canon. Not an elseworld.
It was moved to Earth Thirty Two afterwards like a few events they wanted to retcon. Said in an omnibus or something.
How is that even possible? Earth 32 was the Green Lantern Batman earth, for In Darkest Knight.
The other one, earth Thirty-Two (spelled out)
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-Thirty-Two
Yes, DC has 2 earth-32s
lol
WTF.
Died from bofa.
It'd be better if anyone but Batman killed Joker. Because it would point out the flaws of his philosophy. Showing that sometimes the greater good is killing that which is irredeemably evil.
Jason was wrong. Deal with it.
No. The only thing Jason did wrong was try to control crime. There was always going to be more infighting & death. Better to put fear in them of actual death over the fear Batman puts in them of just getting punched & maybe arrested.
Jason was just as evil as Joker, if not worse because he’s not even crazy. That’s why Batman beat the shit out of Jason: because he was always a weak and cowardly moron and the weakest robin. Killing criminals does nothing, or else Batman should kill Jason and then Jason would be begging for mercy like the little cuck he is
>just as evil
He didn't kill any innocent people, children, or cripple a woman for life. I see now you can't even argue in good faith.
Still a killer, picking straws changes nothing. They’re all the same. Jason should be beaten to death by Batman if he wants Batman to take the weak, cowardly way out by killing like Jason wants. Bruce grew up in hell and he still became a true hero. That’s the difference between them: Bruce is a man, and Jason is a weak cowardly little cuckold.
>Bruce is a man, and Jason is a weak cowardly little cuckold
>Refuses to avenge his friends
>A man
Jason doesn’t know even half of the suffering Bruce has been through and yet he betrayed Bruce and betrayed all the good that Bruce stood for despite his dark and traumatised past. Jason is weak and pathetic and he stopped being Bruce’s friend the moment he beyrayed him, he was only a pathetic failure.
So he's punisher
Magog killed Joker in Kingdome Come and the apocalypse happened because of it. Murder is evil and will always lead you down the wrong path. End of story.
Jason was always the worst robin. Even Alfred said Jason was always weak and couldn’t fight because he’s a pussy. Alfred would beat the shit out of him in a fight.
Zero. He'd create a thousand new ones in the copy cat Jokers who would overwhelm Bats and the GCPD with chaos and fatalities.
Most of the Zodiac killings were not performed by the actual Zodiac killer.
Everyone in Gotham thought Batman killed Joker for a year after Faces of Death.
There were some small protests but absolutely 0 copycat killers.
>it's an anon thinks a storyline from the past 15 years is relevant episode
come on bro
Robin’s Regulars should have been referenced during We Are Robin and the Robin War.
That or the time Dick ran a summer camp as Robin. Or his official fan club.
They would all vacate after learning Tim’s a fag
Would Batman killing the Joker scare the shit out of his rogue's gallery knowing now or at least thinking now they could be next?
"But Batman never kills..."
Batman gets hunted down, loses Alfreds respect(maybe giving him a heart attack) this alienates Bruce more where it's deemed by news that Batman not only killed joker but allegedly killed bruce Wayne aswell.
Batman is now only Batman, fully, have joker haunt him making him more and more unhinged (maybe not that's kinda like Arkham) either way looses some tech or he goes full off grid. Rouges and mobs fear the shit out of him becasue he's full on embraced vengance and the night, basically is a crazy punisher/owlmam in bat cosplay without guns, just a grapple and makeshift batarangs at first, the more unhinged and more villians he kills, he could keep new "trophy's" like 2 faces skull, also could possibly rob the villians he takes out for their tech/tools.
His new cave becomes amusmemt mile docks or some shit, people think it's haunted, also he covers his mouth now like Cassandra's Batgirl, making him look less human and more knightmareish.
I'ma say Alfred gets put on batman's list too by the news even if he died from a heart attack
Besides of some stern lectures from the justice league and some angry editorials from some newspapers, I don't see much negative stuff happening if Batman suddenly says "enough" and kills the Joker.
All of Gotham's underworld would shit it's pants in terror at the idea of having to face a Batman who doesn't hesitate to kill anymore, and even heavy hitters like Ra's al ghul would think twice before crossing their path with Bats.
If you kill The Joker you become The Joker.
>Jason makes Batman kill The Joker
>Batman goes insane from the trauma of what he's done and the cliffedge he's just jumped down
>Bruce's mind snaps and he becomes The Batman Who Laughs and easily beats Jason to death with his bare fists now that he's no longer holding back
>tortures the entire Justice League to death, then gains cosmic powers with his genius intelligence and kills the source
>creates a twisted, evil multiverse of murder just like he's becomes and destroys all of existence
Well done. You've just doomed all of reality because you wanted Batman to stop being a hero. Well you got what you wanted. Hope you like dying to The Batman Who Laughs.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Batman Who Laughs is a shitty concept that should've stayed a one off.
It is the height of Batwank.
Seething little supercuck
You're assuming that I don't like Batman or something?
I like both, I just hate it when Batman gets powerwanked, especially in an event as dumb as that one was.
And for the record, there are plenty of bad Superman stories too.
But, well, this is a Batman thread.
Seethe. BatChad was always able to beat the shit out of your beta daddy supercuck and make him beg for mercy. That's what happens when you get handed powers for doing nothing and expect to win a fight against someone who trained and worked like hell for his strength. You get your ass fucking kicked.
Got it, you're shitposting and unable to comprehend the fact I like both characters but dislike a certain way of portraying one of them.
But...all the anti-bats could only beat Superman by using powers that were either handed to them, or required almost no work to get access to.
It required work to train his intelligence until he could create the Doomsday Virus, work to genetically modify himself until he is atlantean, work to create the nanite alfred body, unlimited willpower to use the green lantern ring better than the entire lantern corps combined, work to use Ares' powers better than Ares himself could.
And Batkek is just Batman if he stopped always holding back.
>Doombat
The blueprints were literally already laid out for him since Doomsday is a parasite. He could've just done a blood transfusion and obtained his powers.
>Drowned and Speedbat
You can make arguments for them working for their powers, but the bullshit that they got alongside said powers required no work to obtain.
>Alfredbat
I don't even need to comment on this one.
>In Darkest Knight Bat
It did not require unlimited willpower to corrupt the ring, it just required Bruce to mask his anger and hatred as willpower, and that was enough to fuck up the lanterns light.
>Bat of War
The helm did all of the work. It gave him that power outright, just like how it powered up Ares.
>Batkek
That's just Bruce but CUHRAZEE!!! So he had access to the Batforce and the Clownforce, neither of which he had to work for to obtain. Okay I'm shitposting with this one, but he's the only other Bat member aside from Speedbat to actually need to do any sort of thinking.
>batman who laughs
>skinny dyel
>beats jason
lol
he already did kill his Jason. and he beat Batman in a fistfight too. Compared to beating Bruce, Batkek would punch Jason once in the snout and he'd start crying like the pussy he is
There's plenty of scenarios where the Joker died and Gotham was still the crime ridden shit hole it was when Joker was still alive. In Universe Batman has his no kill rule because he knows if he kills he'll get a taste for blood and just be another Joker
Also, because he doesn't want to lose GCPD's support, which is contingent on him not being a murderous vigilante.
>How many problems would Batman solve if he just killed the Joker?
Lots, but then Batman would have a bigger problem: how does he justify his existence without a totally fun and entertaining group of bad guys to catch and release?
He's a billionaire playing vigilante in his spare time. If he wanted to really make an impact on crime he'd donate money to the police but what he really wants is to play-fight with frenemies while he figures out his trauma from watching his parents die.
Who cares if a few plebs get caught in the cross-fire? They're just poorfags after all
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he'd be preventing the deaths of every person the joker was going to go on to kill. 'Slippery slope' arguments are illogical because they assume people lack personal judgement, batman killing the joker doesn't mean he suddenly is going to become a violent psychopath, that's some third-grade writing right there. Batman should be perfectly capable of moderation and judgement and going 'okay, the joker's going to be the one exception', and actually hold by that. And someday, maybe there'd be a second exception. And maybe a third! But the point is that that doesn't mean he's going to suddenly start slitting the throat of someone who is littering.
As soon as Batman kills joker, everyone turns on Batman. They see him as the crazy one now and gordon or anyone that knows his no kill will never trust him , BECASUE it was the joker he did in.
Birth of the bat in the abyss.
Pretty sure in this one-shot Batman goes straight to Gordon and turns himself in.
That train of thought makes no sense. I'd buy him a drink for doing the right thing.
Then you have joker gang wannabes become bat man wannbees and they are people like you that would like him, these people help Batman hide from police.
>everyone turns on Batman
yeah, Diana totally gonna be against murder
This isn't considering the league but I mean this man has a way to kill or stop all of them already.
Let's get it.
The problem isn't Batman not killing the Joker, it's Batman going out of his way to save the Joker's life.
Anon, I'm going to explain the real reason why Batman doesn't kill the Joker, and to be sure that you understand, I'll explain it in your native language.
Durr, if Batman kill Joker, durr, writers no can use Joker no more, durr. Durr, Joker popular, durr, Joker sell comics, durr, Joker sell movie tickets, durr, Joker sell merch, durr, no kill goose that lays golden eggs, durr durr durr durr duuuurrrrrrrrrr.
Do you get it now, or should I try grunts instead?
Even that's not true, Joker could just come back.
Batman doesn't kill Joker more because they're way up their asses about the No Kill Rule but most writers are too dumb to really write it well so Batman needs to act like a literal retard to make conflict out of something ultimately simple.
>they're way up their asses about the No Kill Rule
The No Kill Rule exists so they can keep reusing the same old villains, and don't have to create new ones. Look at the Punisher: Frank doesn't have a No Kill Rule, but he can only kill villains either nobody cares about, or who were created for the specific purpose of being killed by Frank. If he tries to kill an A-list villain, he WILL fail.
Even Frank has had his own rogues come back from the dead. Death means fucking nothing. The No Kill Rule exists because it was when Batman was purely trying to appeal to kids but when it got "serious" again they wanted to keep the whole No Kill bullshit as part of his mythos. Batman's villains have died and come back, JOKER has died and come back. Tons of villains die and come back all the fucking time, writers don't see death as an impediment. The No Kill Rule exists purely because people think BATMAN DOESN'T KILL is an important part of his character.
The only good Joker is TAS Joker.
>How many problems would Batman solve if he just killed the Joker?
One. The joker. What kind of fucking stupid question is this?
almost all of them. Most of his rogies gallery are only alive because they bring in the sales. The moral code is just a bullshit excuse to explain away why he keeps them around. Even one of the best Batman stories has him admit acknowledge this, and then he finally kills him.
If it's not his place to kill the Joker, that's alright with me. But the governments and the law in cape worlds are worse than ours about keeping the scum inside steel bars and burying them into the ground than ours and that's saying something
If they could keep villains in prison, it would effectively be the same as the villains dying and staying dead: the villains would no longer be usable.
Look at it like this: imagine that DC is a daycare, the writers are the kids, and the characters are the toys. All of the kids want a turn playing with the popular toys like Joker, so if one of the kids breaks the popular toy, no one can play with it anymore.
I know the irl reasons for it but it almost makes me want a citizen in a cape world to bomb all the government buildings in revenge for being sinfully and egregiously slothful, after their family member got murdered after some repeat murderer villain escaped prison again 3 months after sentencing
A lot of lower tier villains would quit knowing Batman isn't a pacifist anymore.
why should batman do it? why haven't one of the police done it? why hasn't the city of gotham signed off on the death penalty and just killed him? Batman has caught that bro so many times now why can't someone else just kill him off while he's in custody or in prison? Nothing about comic books make sense anon. just enjoy
LOL right why do they keep sending him to the world's shittiest prison where deranged killers can keep escaping over and over again why don't they ever send him to ADX Florence or something where nobody has ever escaped? Just repeat the MST3K mantra and relax
He could him on a wheelchair permanently. Crippled one or both arms. Fuck him up good enough and he shouldn't be much of a threat to the public.