Hunter the Parenting 4

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Words cannot express how much I despise Alfabusa.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Okay. What about the rest of them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the next upload Karl?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JFC finally I was wondering what happened to this.

      Why? Because he didnt want to risk getting sued in a non-american court.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Am getting a little tired of like half the cast being gay.
      But eh, is funny enough.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only two are gay. The rest are bisexual.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > Bisexual
          So, yes, they're gay.
          Your agreement is noted.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice new episode

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ummmmm mage,changeling,werewolf,mummy,demon,beast the primordial stans???? when are we gonna get our moment???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mage
      Big D is either one of these or a Mummy given his extreme knowledge of things he has no right knowing about.

      >changeling
      Probably one of the nicer groups they could encounter, due to the fact they're mostly opposed to Banality and the death of magic. But because of that very thing, it's hard for them to stick around long.

      >werewolf
      Big D literally warned Kitten off from interacting with the Garou, for good fricking reason.

      >mummy
      See the first point.

      >demon
      Most of them are either asleep or building up power.

      >beast
      Don't exist in oWoD.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What would him being a Mummy entail?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >demon
        Not sure about the lore myself but I saw a lot of speculation that Horse was one of these.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Horse is anything from a Demon to possibly a spirit of some power. Some people speculated he might have been a Bane, but he'd have killed or tried to kill all of them if that were the case.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There are other changing breeds who would not immediately rip someone apart that they could interact with. Or make it Bone Gnawer or something.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking disgusting how half the characters in this show are turbo-queer homosexuals.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never played a WoD game before?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Big D is a pansexual only because he cares about feeding into his hedonistic desires as part of a massive cope for the enormous emotional trauma he's burdening. If you think that's a positive representation of non-heterosexuals, you're mental.

      Kitten is a homosexual and it's pointed out that Kitten became gay after a weeb chick broke his fragile little ego by having too much personality AND also after he saw a girl he knew get disemboweled. Not-Magnus is a homosexual and is shown to be massively incompetent with society to the point where he needs to interact with actual social outcasts INCLUDING THE WOMAN WHO TURNED HIS BOYFRIEND GAY IN THE FIRST PLACE just to get a simulacrum of positive social interaction. If you think that's a positive representation of homosexuals, then you're a moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        homosexualry should receive no representation in media - at all.
        For the same reasons that child molestation shouldn't be depicted in media.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I agree which is why you and OP should both be range banned cause all I see is two herpes spewing puss at each other like gays

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i will also add that door (straight man with child) is the most competent and level-headed out of the lot

        I thought his woman suffocated their kid or something with how absolutely radio silent this cactus farmer has been for months.

        he posts on his patreon every few weeks. anyone can see the posts, even people who do not pay. the reason this episode specifically took so long is because of all the new character models they had to make for the spiffy animations. the next episode should not take as long, they already have its script fully planned out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okay sure, but I don't want any of that in my entertainment.
        If I wanted to see gay people, I'd go to Cinemaphile.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          why bother with Cinemaphile? dont you have mirrors at your house? hehehe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a White Wolf setting. To explain that simply, in every book behaving like a normal goddamn person and not someone that shows up on police footage shows takes what would be a skill check. That's in the books where you play a human, mind you, it's much harder in the ones where a dull moment might have you slip up and lick your genitals, eat someone if they ask if you are hungry, or him to yourself and a horde of spiders flow out of your mouth.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ABOUT frickING TIME

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I thought his woman suffocated their kid or something with how absolutely radio silent this cactus farmer has been for months.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What did she do?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >attempted to cast the Dragon Slave without understanding Mage's magic system
      what a moron lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Violating Technocracy laws.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So is this set like in the late 90s early 2000s? All the weeb jokes and references like Kannon or the Yaoi paddle are weeb tropes of a bygone era. My era.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's 2006, They say Markus is upgrading his PC for TF2 early on.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ruber reference in the background tapestry

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I keep expecting Occam's voice to be done by Plague of Gripes.

    See you all in two years when the next episode is finished, I guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only four people had access to the archive. Monocle guy was almost never alone. The old man is suspicious despite appearing dead but maybe be a red herring. I forget what the doctor was doing but I don’t think she was with anyone most of the time. Then there’s Plague of Gripes. Self strangulation?

      why WASNT this dude voiced by eli?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Have they ever worked together?
        I haven't seen a lot of his stuff, but I don't think I've ever seen Plague mention WoD or 40k or the Alfabusa team.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          plague drew 40k stuff but that was like 15 years ago

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          plague drew 40k stuff but that was like 15 years ago

          Plauge was a drawgay but ever actually got into 40k outside of the memes because of living in the rural countryside.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would it be Plague when they have Oculus on staff?

        I get that Vampires are manipulative buttholes, but what do werewolves do to deserve getting hunted?

        Everything, basically.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really can't force myself to give a shit about this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Too many characters, too many scene changes. Tighten up the writing, fellas.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so who the frick's the ghoul?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kinda leaning towards Fatigue doing it. I mean under the right compulsion couldn't a Malkavian compel theory ghoul to kill themselves and cast Dementation to pass blame(Spit's condition seems new)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spit would be too obvious, this anon makes a good point

      Kinda leaning towards Fatigue doing it. I mean under the right compulsion couldn't a Malkavian compel theory ghoul to kill themselves and cast Dementation to pass blame(Spit's condition seems new)

      but it could also very well be the doctor given that she was quick to take Occam away and how quickly he was back on his feet. Also Matilda and Amanda are suspicious given the former mentioned something about losing her job which seems odd given that I don’t think they would be fired just for knowing about this sort of stuff and the latter for mumbling stuff about Baba Yaga while unconscious. Also Giles is MIA and his boss is a ghoul as well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only four people had access to the archive. Monocle guy was almost never alone. The old man is suspicious despite appearing dead but maybe be a red herring. I forget what the doctor was doing but I don’t think she was with anyone most of the time. Then there’s Plague of Gripes. Self strangulation?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Harry IMO.
      I'm leaning towards D strangling occam for some stupid reason since he's the only one who's location wasn't shown on the map and he made a big show about needing a key to get in. It being the ghoul would be weird because why leave Occam alive?
      IIRC harry has no alibi for the actual killings and his only characterization was his obsession with strength without outright attacking anyone.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well Git was working at the same store as the Tremere lady. And he was left with Fatigue. And he was missing by the end of the episode...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depending on how cleverly written this.
      > Obvious culprit/possible red herring: Spit
      I feel like I don't really need to explain this.
      If you've seen the video you know.
      > Next most likely culprit: Elise
      She steals Git's keys for no reason.
      She wanders off prior to both major incidents.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If it isn't Fitz they're dumber than slackjaw. You could've ambushed the help, but you chose to hunger on fatigue? It would make my boner sad if it was Elise.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Might be Fatigue?
        The corpse could be an elaborate deception generated through Thaumaturgy or Dementation.
        The sticking point is whether it is even possible for a ghoul to wield a discipline at a level where they could confidentially evade the scrutiny of so many eyes.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This scene raised many questions for me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The joke is that Big D is similar to Yuujiro Hanma in terms of combat ability and also having a direct caveman line (in Yuujiro's case, Pickle).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh I thought it was a reference to TTS in how Emps was an early human.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh I thought it was a reference to TTS in how Emps was an early human.

        I thought it was a Scooby Doo joke

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          whats scooby doo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ligma balls

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Did you read the caption on the screenshot from the episode?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Technically everyone on earth has a caveman ancestor.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally what did they see in each other?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No man or woman can resist Big D

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        D's a mountain of meat and Occam is a powerbottom?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      boy am i glad he's frozen in there and we're out here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Where is the sheriff?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guys, the ghoul is obviously grandma

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OOOH WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN YOUR GRANDMA COMES FOR YOU!?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it just me or us the goth taller than before?
    But then again it's been A FRICKING YEAR since she was introduced and my memory is hazy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She wasn’t really shown next to anyone or with any real full body stuff, it was mostly just headshots from the special.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I always envisioned her as tall.
        Also, I WANT TO CLAIM MT. ELISE SO BAD BROS!!!

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Kevin plush campaign announced
    >Already overfunded
    Sometimes I forget how much of alfabusa's viewerbase is off the site.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the map from partway through the episode.
    Note that spit is in the room directly below the archives. While Occam claimed no secret passage led to the archives, D and Blacklaw did bust a couple holes in the walls with the vaultso it's possible a new route was found. That said, could be another thing to make spit more suspicious.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm the fricking dumb

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hey wait how did Grimal get into the security room? she's neither staff nor elite.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Remember Goth girl stole the Security guy's keys.

          Considering the kitchen staff had his smokes it's fair to assume she gave Grimal the Keys.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >penis explosion room
        wot?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Clearly a private masturbation chamber

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Otherwise know as The Wank Room

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Found the murder weapon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A YouTube comment gave an interesting theory. What if Spit's a werewolf? He transformed for the first time and killed Fatigue, but upon transforming back, now has no memory of doing it. The fact that Fatigue is a scholar of lycanthropy + the wolf statue being covered in blood as seen here feels like strong hints for it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Would that explain his behavior earlier? When the Doctor was first talking with him?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I mean that'd be a hell of a red herring, but that doesn't feel right.

        From what I recall Werewolves don't just "happen" they have to be born a werewolf or have to go through some kind of ritual to willing turn into one.

        I suppose there might be some Black Spiral Dancer bullshit that might work like "classic" lycanthropy but that'd be a hell of a stretch.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He did mention a "Party" several times, could that have been the ritual?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ...Ah frick.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              THAT'S A CHICKEN
              A BIG, GIANT CHICKEN

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          From what I remember I thought a werewolf just has to frick the right kinda person and bam new baby werewolf but the child doesn't start doing werewolf shit unless very specific conditions are met

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          IIRC, you inherit it. It can be that you were abandoned by your werewolf parents or kept in the dark but you will change suddenly around puberty. I also recall if you aren't protected by your clan it's going to be just a fluke the wyrm didn't have you killed or a clan hadn't tracked you down by the time you can wolf it up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It could also just be that spits saw whoever was the werewolf and that Delirium thing made him go into the fetal position.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Or it could be something similar to what the Malks can do. I mean he is flipping the frick out. Another anon brought them up something about them and his behavior definitely matches the effects of dementation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Garou don't forget their transformations unless it's First Change or they fully succumb to Rage, and I don't think that happens even in the latter case. He'd need to either be a wolflbood3d who suddenly experienced First Change for reasons or a murderous woof with a vendetta.

        I mean that'd be a hell of a red herring, but that doesn't feel right.

        From what I recall Werewolves don't just "happen" they have to be born a werewolf or have to go through some kind of ritual to willing turn into one.

        I suppose there might be some Black Spiral Dancer bullshit that might work like "classic" lycanthropy but that'd be a hell of a stretch.

        If this was a Black Spiral Dancer, they'd all be dead.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's still professor lemon but he is not a ghoul but one of those flesh shaping vampires, a tiramisu

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there are vamps named after pasteries?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >a tiramisu
      I would die if this is the fake name that D gives them for the Tzimisce

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I need porn of that big white goth girl

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I need porn of Polydora

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    girl who stinks good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i wonder if the carpets match the drapes...

      >didn't realize brok was supposed to be an ork expy until the "krump 'em bloody?!" line

      moron. Orks were created to make fun of football hooligans. Slackjaw is a hooligan. Therefore, he acts like an ork.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i wonder if the carpets match the drapes...

      [...]
      moron. Orks were created to make fun of football hooligans. Slackjaw is a hooligan. Therefore, he acts like an ork.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Massive breasts. For crushing men.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        haha imagine being her boyfriend and getting jacked for her and then playing silent survivor when you go to defend her honor after she pisses off a bunch of people by being such a sperg lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I just thought she was a normal size goth girl in the bar episode. Not an avatar of a fertility goddess!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think Kitten doesn't like Grizlaine because she can point out how good he has things and he doesn't like feeling positive about himself. Also she probably likes to shove things up his butt.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >She has 5GB of Male x Tentacle porn on an encrypted USB drive

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I to be fair what's the whole point if your life is now vampire hunting? Maybe he wanted something normal in his life? Not stumble on a fellow Uni student chowing down on another classmate.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair if Kitten actually has some supernatural stuff going on with him then that means a normal life was never truly in the picture, not in this setting at least.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              In either case, Kitten just wants "normal" and is frustrated he can't have it, even if he has it good by all other means. It's like that dumb image where the artist tries to ask why a depressed person with happy things around him is still depressed?

              homie just wants to have his tress be bills and the war of terror. Vampires and Werewolves is a bigger more daunting matter than Iraq.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus fricking christ they are pure fuxking sex, they're basically pic related but at peak potential

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          OH YEAH BABY I GET THAT REFERENCE

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are a man of culture

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        PORN WHEN

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's a little.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Links?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              its on r34 my dude. Fair warning, most of its gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just got back the stuff if Elise isn’t bad. We need more though and Polydora shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but I looked it up and there's a image of Kitten topping Markus.

                I'm so fricking glad I'm not alone in that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can tell Big D molested Marcus when he turned homosexual in a Britain with woman like this.

        Need.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      she is a weeb, anon. a BR*TISH weeb at that. is not worth it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nta but hear me out.
        He "traded up" for a Br*tish GAMER

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >didn't realize brok was supposed to be an ork expy until the "krump 'em bloody?!" line

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did you guy see the portrait of his mother?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The little fangs
        Holy shit dudes!

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, how buffed can a ghoul get if they've recently fed? Unless this ghoul's got potence celerity and, I don't see how a Tremere stooge could rip the old guy apart and split before everyone else showed up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on his base stats.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Blacklaw hunted were-bears

    Aren't Gurahl one of the nicer were-beasts?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does he strike you as not being an butthole?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are also the strongest of the werecreatures so thats very impressive that he manage to defeat one

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Depending on how he killed it, it can vary in impressiveness with modern fire arms and what have you for all we know he could have dropped a bomb on it

        >the War of Rage
        What?

        The werewolves genocided every other shifter species and sent the natural order of things into the woodchipper, and a good chunk of them started worshipping and assisting the God of entropy and everything bad

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The War of Rage is where werewolves slaughtered to the point of near-extinction, and in some cases total extinction, every other shapeshifter that was either too nice, or didn't have enough shapeshifter blood in them, including other werewolves. At the same time, the Impergium happened, which was a near-extinction event of humanity. Humans, in response, have a terror reflex of shapeshifters. The irony? The War of Rage saved humanity because the werewolves were so busy killing other shapeshifters, there weren't enough of them to keep killing humans.

          >But the Garou then thought (with all the intellect that comes with their roid-raging, dog-brained meathead mentality) "God, we are just SO much better at fighting, why do these other weirdos exist when WE can do it?".

          So are there any mythical creatures in WoD that aren’t c**ts?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Italians

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ay tone we got a frickin Vampiyah here that hasn’t paid his dues let’s stake him and leave ‘em out for duh sun

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You're not gonna believe this
              >He killed sixteen vampires
              >Guy was an interior decorator

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The guy or the vampires, I here those vamps can make some whacky furniture

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What it lacks in comfort in makes up for in creativity.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The idea the sopranos sharing a universe with WoD is always a headcannon of mine

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There was always an undercurrent of the superantural in the show, especially when it came to ghosts, so I can see it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            World of Darkness only has c**ts in it. Anyone who has ever set foot into the World of Darkness is 100% a c**t. You cannot survive WoD without being a c**t. If you ever, EVER try to be compassionate, even with your own party, you're going to fricking die.
            >but if you do this one specific thing--
            shut up moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Changelings

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The best you get are certain kinds of Fae but they are Fae and therefore offensively gay in a way that goes beyond mere sexuality.

            And the rest are c**ts who act like Harry Potter wizards to "muggles" because god forbid we not all act like 4 year olds on crack dreaming of fantastical worlds for them to frick around in.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What about Mummies?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They're basically eternal old rich people so usually c**ts.

                Some might be nice though if they live long enough to chill out.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mummies run the gamut but are generally meant to be like "what if Exalts, but in WoD". They're supposed to be closer to a hero faction and are implied to have been what the Imbued were meant to be from the start.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Uhhhhhhhh changings??????
            But then again they're literally just normal humans but fricked over by fae, so their also c**ts since every human in WoD is a c**t....
            I mean the non weywolf shape-shifters that still exist are way more moderate and nice, the kitsune/werefoxes help keep japan a relatively nice place by murking any vampires or literally anything else supernatural that steps out of line resulting in the only vamp presence being kuei-jin and a singular camerilla Domain in Tokyoheaded by a fricking Tzimisce of all things who are both pretty well behaved as to not incur their wrath

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly how are mages c**ts?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >reshapes the world to make it worse
              >doesn't explain
              >leaves

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, the Technocracy are mages and their end goal would turn us all into mindless mechanical husks in a world where magic, dreams, desires, and individuality are dead.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                homie fell for the reality Deviant propaganda. Not every technocrat is a Iteration X cyborg with a CPU in their brain.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                State your allegiance and goals before you continue posting blatant pilpul propaganda.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They may not be, but their overall endgoal will literally be a Weaver victory all the same. That and their highest echelons quite literally aren't human, so I wouldn't trust them for shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's the point of being coming a master mage, my friend. You become so removed from humanity that you can only exist in the umbra without causing paradox. You could say the same for all the sphere masters regardless of ideology.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Mages conflict is between The Traditions and The Technocracy.
              The Traditions are the ostensible good guy faction and The Technocracy are the bad guys but over time the conflict has gained more depth and is now more a conflict between Individualistic Ascension at the cost of a more chaotic and dangerous world vs Sterile Paradise at the cost of freedom and wonder, very Chaos vs Law.

              Basically magic works because people believe it works otherwise known as Consensus, and in ye old days magic was everywhere. Magic was also a massive threat to most people because it turns out that Dragons, Basilisks and Mages needing your child to preform blood sacrifices is generally bad.
              Out of this came The Order of Reason that worked to stop the magical bullshit and uplift the common man. One of they ways they did this was teaching people that the dude sacrificing you child for better crops isn't actually doing anything which effect Consensus and in turn stops more sacrifices from happening. Over the centuries they became more corrupt and control oriented turning into The Technocracy and have been manipulating the world from the shadows to alter Consensus.
              In turn all the other Mages banded together into The Traditions each encompassing a type of Spellcaster Archetype to protect magic and so fight against The Technocracy for the sake of a free world.
              But again the return to a world of free magic is the return to one where magic is used freely which means that the dude you bumped into at the store can actually be a powerful wizard that makes a plague which kills you family for 3 generations around you. And not everyone has the time or aptitude to make magic so its a very uneven system if your not a Mage if you are a Mage however its freedom. While the Technocracy if not opposed will by its own projections in 25 years have manipulated mass media to effectively cure cancer and end world hunger, all at the cost of freedoms you never even knew you had.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >at the cost of freedoms you never even knew you had.
                Not worth it then.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that's the big thing that everyone against the Technocracy points out. The cost for all the good shit thry offer is literally too high, since you'll be such a mindless cog in the machine that you won't ever be able to enjoy them or even realize that you're supposed to enjoy them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They're basically soience cultists.
              They literally took the structure of reality and reshaped it, creating and empowering their mystic doctrine. Alchemy was replaced by chemistry. Conjuration was replaced by mechanized industry. Telepathy was replaced by fiber optic communications. Divination was replaced by predictive algorithms and the internet.
              Technomancy interacts heavily with the sciences, they made 'magic' more reliable but infinitely lamer.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I hate to break it to you, but the only guys who are the good guys are the Technocracy in Mage. Everyone else is a villain.

              >But whimsy and love and-
              Almost every single creed fricking hates Sleepers. The Hermetics are fricking evil because they held rule and they made the world fricking mudcore forever, and they goddamn hate logic and science and all want to do bullshit like summoning all those fricking demons and more that the germans wrote about constantly. Yeah, the Traditions kept those frickers in and made the life of everyone absolutely SHIT for generations just because they wanted to.

              Cheap and available alchemy to make healing potions or surgery or anything? Frick that, infect and die in mudcore. Divine prayer actually doing much to shape the world? Hell no, you got the exclusive paladins, let the beggars starve. Aetherites are basically "lol logic why sense make s4s", and the rest of the traditions are basically kung fu larpers, meth smokers, sex cults or worse.

              >But fascism, loss of individuality, no dreams, muh weaver

              Flawed but they're ascending with Sleepers, interfactional conflict means none of them win the ideological war, the Technocracy is built on the dream of making Reality better through science and endless discovery and wonders for a better world, they've eliminated tons of outright evil creatures from reality and are propelling the entirety of the modern world to be better, with better healthcare, attempts at interesting economies, easier technologies, more wonders to lessen our loads while trying to achieve post scarcity union beyond borders and dividing creeds. Trusting the wolfs in fricking anything is nonsense too, especially given the meta aspect of their game being eco terrorism fantasy and the reality being a spiritual bullshit eugenics program full of murderers.

              Don't trust any Tradition.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Like other said, it's a balance thing, the technocracy is lead by various horrors that all eventually wind up deciding the real problem is humanity existing ala skynet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, the Technocratic reality they design where every whim and need and everything humanity could desire being fulfilled while ever ascending in dreams of further post scarcity and innovation, such a nightmare versus the Hermetic ending where humanity is reduced to like 10k and the sticks they rub together refuse to ignite, bruising and bleeding as logic is entirely replaced by fricking arbitrary esoterica as they're hunted and literally murderfricked by demons, devils and other vile shit as a prey species.

                The balance people preach is not as existent as you think. Fae might explode near a Technocrat but they still have dreams and ambitions. The governing Traditions in many places of the world have made their mark and they have objectively ruined countries and made shit worse constantly. The Syndicate and the NWO might be bad but the Traditions have been assraping Sleepers for fun and profit for way longer and continue to not care about them in any sincere way. I get WoD in a lot of ways is always skewed to being the rebels versus a system of totality but no, a lot of Mages are just actually insane unhinged maniacs who cannot be trusted.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're doing a bit, and I don't care enough to find the pdf, read through it again, and then screencap it here, but at least one bit of the technocracy is lead by skynet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, the Technocratic reality they design where every whim and need and everything humanity could desire being fulfilled while ever ascending in dreams of further post scarcity and innovation, such a nightmare versus the Hermetic ending where humanity is reduced to like 10k and the sticks they rub together refuse to ignite, bruising and bleeding as logic is entirely replaced by fricking arbitrary esoterica as they're hunted and literally murderfricked by demons, devils and other vile shit as a prey species.

                The balance people preach is not as existent as you think. Fae might explode near a Technocrat but they still have dreams and ambitions. The governing Traditions in many places of the world have made their mark and they have objectively ruined countries and made shit worse constantly. The Syndicate and the NWO might be bad but the Traditions have been assraping Sleepers for fun and profit for way longer and continue to not care about them in any sincere way. I get WoD in a lot of ways is always skewed to being the rebels versus a system of totality but no, a lot of Mages are just actually insane unhinged maniacs who cannot be trusted.

                The endstate of any Technocratic victory is humanity losing all freedoms, including individuality and free will, and that's in the best case scenarios. The worst case scenario is the one described as being the world essentially becoming nothing more than perfect machinery and mindless automata forever, with magic and desire and even thought stripped away in totality. That is the price you pay for all of the great things the Technocracy gives you.

                The Traditions are bad, but the Technocracy are just as bad if not worse. At least when the Traditions held power, you had groups like the Order of Reason who could shift Consensus to stop them and give humanity a chance at development beyond being cattle or dirt farmers. A Technocratic victory would mean the end of even the possibility of opposing that sort of dogmatic tyranny, because everyone would be mindless drones. It doesn't matter how much you try to sweeten it or how much you believe that they'll learn before it gets this bad (and they won't) because for the highest leadership of the Technocracy, THAT is the ideal. What lesser Technocrats want doesn't matter.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, guns are great in WoD. They at least give humanity the ability to make monsters pause.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This reads like propaganda.
                Am I being propagandized right now?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, I just don't bother discussing it with the others as they are objectively wrong. Historically, the Traditions have made Sleeper lives into living fricking hell, and every branch of the Technocracy is, to a point, trying to uplift the common man to their level of reality which they have already achieved. They have already invented full body prosthetics, miracle medicines, have spaceships exploring the upper umbra and beyond, have terminators and the flashers from MIB, frickers have full body transitioning and neural sleep teachers to make you learn kung fu and shit overnight. Like literally overnight.

                Hermetics refuse to give out potions and refused before, or spells to make life better. Choiresters made the colonialism what it was and murdered a lot of mages. Aetherites are basically in their entire business of bullshitting everything, Chakravanti are what they are, less we talk about the rest the better.

                The Technocracy gave you cars. And central heating. And guns and running water, and television and the printing press and academia, medicines and healing, surgery and anesthetics, and fricking microwaves. Its all magic. And the technocracy wants to give you personal jetpacks, and teleportation, and to cure all cancer and give rejuvenation pods, to cure miscariages and plagues, to end wars and go forwards united. Its not perfect in how it does it, but you have to fear a lot less in the World of Darkness with the technocracy rather than without.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh sweet, summer child.
            Some of the material implies GOD himself is the biggest, most evil c**t of them all.

            ...so ironically Grand Maw, the sentience that embodies the darkness outside of God as well as the mother of the Neverborn (according to the Orpheus campaign), is somehow the kindest among them all simply because if told humans are discrete existences outside of the cosmic static she just immediately stops attacking.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This has to be simultaneously the most interesting and absurd shit I’ve heard in a while and I love it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty much, yeah. The weirdest part is the same campaign makes the Neverborn live up to their reputations as Absolute Hyperdeath Destroyers by having them conspire to eat their MOTHER by trying to wrest control of the spectre hiveminds and gain enough power to go to war with her. So you'd think the logical answer is that their kind of made out of elemental evil or something-but no, they're legitimately just salty spoilt children on a cosmic scale and the Void Mommy, the thing defined as the equal and opposite of God, is the one who cares about the people living in the world once she actually knows it exists. And is only even fighting THEM out of self-defence.

                The other weird thing is that the same campaign offers as a potential solution to Grand Maw (assuming the players don't think to reason with OBLIVION) the ghost of Abel just opening up the entire Brazilian rainforest's worth of life energy to drop directly on her. Because she is apparently allergic to concentrated life energy the way humans are easily harmed by OBLIVION.

                I'm not sure if the writers thought through the implications this had about God when Grand Maw is supposed to be his EQUAL and OPPOSITE NUMBER, since IIRC the tragedy of the Brazilian rainforest's loss is presented as a major price paid to cancel the apocalypse. But hell, this is the same setting where one of the Gehenna endings posited that God accidentally shattered himself smiting Lucifer's host when they rebelled against Heaven (and it's semi-supported by Days of Fire, Lucifer's own account of the world's history and why he did what he did, to boot)

                And then there's the question of where the Demon Emperor of the Kuel-Jin mythos fits into this shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's not even getting into one of the Mage "victories" that implies that by winning that group of mages separates reality so "everyone" wins.

                Timeline where the Technocracy wins and shit turns into star trek? Done.

                Timeline where the Mages win and shit turns into Shadowrun? Done.

                Shit where the Werewolves manage to possibly frick up so badly they make the Old World into the Exalted setting. Naturally.

                Fae, Hunters, Mummies, Vampires, everyone gets their "happy" ending and the mages in question pat themselves on the back and I assume retire to a demiplane full of booze and hookers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah I remember that one, what's really fricked up is even the Marauders and Nephandi win. Like how the frick does that even work, the Unnamed's horrific masters that Demon the Descent were created from a fricking schism in reality caused by Cain's first murder bust out into ONE potential timeline but are presumably barred from all the others? Fricking multiverse, man. Been nothing but trouble from the start.

                >Shit where the Werewolves manage to possibly frick up so badly they make the Old World into the Exalted setting. Naturally.
                I don't remember that one, though I do remember the one where the Wyrm and the Weaver destroy reality and then finally go to couples' counselling and kiss and make up.

                Thought Exalted was "supposed" to be the setting's prehistory as little sense as that makes. I say "supposed" because the idea was officially scrapped before Exalted's release...even though the game kept peppering itself with obscure oWoD references to the extent that Infernal Exalt castes are named after Demon houses and their apotheosis Charms are literally using Kuel-jin faction names...and frick, even in 3e Abyssals one of the potential sorcery sponsors is literally Grand Maw but like. The baby version born from somewhere within the Neverborn's nightmares and will apparently grow up to become "the perfect principles of consumption, able to devour even the Neverborn and grant them their final ending" once actually embodied. Even though officially, the settings are supposed to be separate.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Man I just wanna be a vampire on the streets of Chicago.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, why does everything needs such bullshit lore? I just want to be a furry and kill vampires.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but you can, all of this is just there it’s not going to affect the overall game unless you get really into it. It’s not like every time you go for a drive you need to listen to a lecture on the history of transportation and the automobile industry. I mean most Kindred have only a cursory knowledge of Caine and usually think he’s just a fairy tale or some shit. The only people that really give a shit are the Noddists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Basically all the were beasts were kind and moderates while the werewolves were the psychotic extremists. Because it's WoD the wolves purged all the other were kinds as best they could and leaves the implication that the werewolves aren't enforcing Gaia's true will but perverting into any excuse to kill and hate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the other Fera were pretty nice and chill, mostly because a lot of them were meant to be the actual counters to the Wyrm's corruption and madness, with some outright having the ability to eat Wyrm corruption safely and potentially purify the thing over time, returning it to sanity. Then the Garou slaughtered as many of them as they could during the War of Rage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's all the Garou's fault.
      It's literally ALL the Garou's fault, like the Wyrm barely did anything.
      Other splats have this SUPER EVIL version of themselves that is supposed to be a statement about how far evil can make someone fall or whatever, the Garou ARE that splat and the Black Spiral Dancers are the ones that are honest about it.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Could Gils's Manager give him to her master to have him be ghouled? Can you make a Ghoul forget that they're enslaved? Can you Ghoal a Werewolf?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean a Werewolf can get corrupted by the Wyrm, if anything being Ghouled is just Wyrm corruption by proxy. It'd be like getting herpes from a gas station toilet seat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ...could be a Bringer of Light playing the long game to set the vampires and humans against each other.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there anything stopping a Hunter from calling on Fatigue's ghost?

    I mean Occam is a wizard of some sort (if not a Mage), surely they have something that can communicate across the grave.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who do you think will be the Sly Marbo of this series? My money is on Caiaphas Smith.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SAMUEL HAIGHT, THE ULITMATE BADASS

      Maybe people will finally get the joke this time around, instead of taking the fricker 100% seriously and losing their shit about him

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Welp this is the first time I caved in and bought a plushie/any kind of merch in my entire life, but I do really like Kevin and if I ever play VTM I'm stealing his character 1 for 1

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I get that Vampires are manipulative buttholes, but what do werewolves do to deserve getting hunted?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Werewolves are very much buttholes who think they are right no matter how wrong they are

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why do humans kill regular wolves irl? It’s all a matter of expanding mankind’s reach and they’re in the way. And some of them are buttholes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My brother in Christ what Haven't they done to deserve being hunted.

      Almost everything shitty currently happening can be laid at their feet. EVERYTHING.

      They only thing that they can have a pass on is the origin of Vampires, but because of their bullshit in the War of Rage that gave the bloodsucking c**ts the space and time to spread.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the War of Rage
        What?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The War of Rage is where werewolves slaughtered to the point of near-extinction, and in some cases total extinction, every other shapeshifter that was either too nice, or didn't have enough shapeshifter blood in them, including other werewolves. At the same time, the Impergium happened, which was a near-extinction event of humanity. Humans, in response, have a terror reflex of shapeshifters. The irony? The War of Rage saved humanity because the werewolves were so busy killing other shapeshifters, there weren't enough of them to keep killing humans.

          >But the Garou then thought (with all the intellect that comes with their roid-raging, dog-brained meathead mentality) "God, we are just SO much better at fighting, why do these other weirdos exist when WE can do it?".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget that the Impergium ALSO drove the Weaver even MORE insane than she already was, because humanity were her chosen race and by slaughtering them, it not only had a negative feedback loop effect of driving her more nuts which made humanity more prone to engaging in Weaver corruption, but it also further pushed humanity away from nature and the Wyld right into the Weaver's clutches.

            [...]
            So are there any mythical creatures in WoD that aren’t c**ts?

            Mummies, who are genuinely unironically 100% the hero faction, Changelings in the sense they want to preserve the magic and wonder of the world, and certain Hunters.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Wolf shifters decided, all on their fricking own mind you, that because they're the people Gaia relies on to kill threats that they get to decided who or what those threats are.

          They then decided that anyone that isn't a wolf or doesn't suck wolf wiener good enough is "tainted" and therefore should die.

          To put in perspective how badly they fricked up they killed not only the Healer shifters that help rebuild places tainted by the Wyrm but the ones that were in charge of actually destroying Wyrm corruption.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Besides the ones manipulated by the Wyrm? Because wolves eating people are man-eaters that need to be destroyed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A werewolf smashed my Nintendo Wii, ripped up my favorite couch, and raided my fridge.

      They even left the fridge door open.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Werewolves are c**ts, case in point the War of Rage

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The War of Rage
        Not to mention they nearly genocided the Wereboars who had the ability to eat Wyrm corrupt stuff, digest it and end up mostly fine (completely when their healers attained them).
        Because of their paranoia (they believed the Wereboars were in some way corrupt due to them eating Wyrm corruption), the Werewolves killed off the majority of them and the survivors willingly joined the Wyrm out of sheer rage, hate, spite and lust for vengeance.
        Seriously a good chunk of the problems the Werecreatures have is caused by Werewolves and their autism and misjudgement.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Keep in mind these are British people. Blacklaw probably is planning on sport hunting the maids in the back lawn.

      Really though the only conceivable scenario is if it was a misunderstanding or the bears were attacking people wildly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But Blacklaw is Belgian.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Garou are the case of 99% of everything bad in WoD, with the remaining 1% falling stthe feet of a merger between the Technocracy (who are technically also the Garou's fault since they're aligned to the Weaver), Caine and the 3rd Gens, and various Earthbound, and Nephandi lunatics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vampires are manipulative buttholes. Werewolves / Garou are vicious blunt buttholes who frick anyone up for very little reason

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What do werewolves do to deserve getting hunted
      Yes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're those annoying ass hippy ecoterrorists except they turn into wolves and eat people instead of throwing paint on shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The werewolves are also literally fighting against Captain Planet villains who only exist to make the world worse for everyone, so they're completely justified.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >t.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Man don't get me started on city werewolves and their computers

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The werewolves are also literally fighting against Captain Planet villains who only exist to make the world worse for everyone, so they're completely justified.

            I read in the WW book that there are threats from the wyrm that not even the Vampires know about and that are so much worse than corporations or undead politicians. Unfortunately I didn't read what the stats for those things were.

            I suppose it was a "yeah but..." thing every rpg book that focuses on a faction has.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pentex is the worse villains in the the WOD. The entire conflict against them is entirely uninteresting. They just exist to be slaughtered. WTA is the worst part of the WOD. Change my mind.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Counterpoint
            A saturday morning cartoon with Pentax security forces as the diverse colorful hero's fighting against stereotypical villain werewolfs is a show I want to see and exists in game.
            Also counterpoint, I can't find it but that image from the d&d book they released that looked like and acted like what Jack Chick thinks d&d is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Pentex is the worse villains in the the WOD. The entire conflict against them is entirely uninteresting. They just exist to be slaughtered.
            That's only if the storyteller is using them in the most boring way possible. A majority of those who work at Pentex and it's subsidiaries have no clue they're working for a dealth cult. They're just trying to get by in a cruel unfair world. So the obvious conundrum is how do the werewolves handle all the innocents between them and the executives who are truly evil.
            Same can be said about the hordes of enemies that Pentex pumps out like augmented mercenaries and formori. But those monsters most likely never asked to become that way, or we're just looking for a way out. And Werewolves can't just take them head on that'd be suicide.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Man, there's a lot of leech propaganda in this thread.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also lots of Pentex and Technocracy psyops.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is Solar Sorcery an actual thing, because it's sounds awesome.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No clue but it's probably a left over from hunter the reckoning's wacky divine/blessing powers in current hunter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It is and it's actual bullshit because it's a part of the Exalted, and a Solar Exalted is so fricking rare that there's literally 100 of them. If your campaign features someone who can use Solar Sorcery, then you're either playing the game wrong, or you've got a DM that has set up campaigns that are for absolute lunatics (and is probably writing to someone at White Wolf on a first-name basis).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        don't forget that solars are associated with mummies since mummies=ra and solars=sol invictus
        don't forget that mummies are the opposite of vampires just as solars are the opposite of abyssals
        so basically

        >mage
        Big D is either one of these or a Mummy given his extreme knowledge of things he has no right knowing about.

        >changeling
        Probably one of the nicer groups they could encounter, due to the fact they're mostly opposed to Banality and the death of magic. But because of that very thing, it's hard for them to stick around long.

        >werewolf
        Big D literally warned Kitten off from interacting with the Garou, for good fricking reason.

        >mummy
        See the first point.

        >demon
        Most of them are either asleep or building up power.

        >beast
        Don't exist in oWoD.

        What would him being a Mummy entail?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When will Big D deal with the real threat?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When they try and steal the Golden Goose.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just ravnos who are just a specific clan of vampires....
      Oh wait, FRICK I now remember that WoD unironically gave gypsies magic power and canonized every single terrible stereotype they have in a piss poor and uneducated attempt to be representative

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly is the most powerful monster in the World of Darkness?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      celestines? i think?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on what you define as a "monster". The strongest who is given 'stats' is The Unnamed (basically the single greatest evil Archmage of all time) when he manifests in the ultra bad end Mage ToJ scenario, where he's ultra-juiced up by his evil gods of the void and essentially dominates reality forever. Then you have the Antediluvians, whose powers are so bullshit that one of them - Ennoia - casually Earth Melds with the entire planet when she wakes up and thats the LEAST crazy thing they do. And this is whilst they're all just waking up and in full-blown torpor too, completely lacking the majority of their power since they haven't diablerized any other 3rd gens.

      Overall though, the most powerful outright are Grandmaw (God's dark opposite) and the Triat of the Wyld, Wyrm, and Weaver.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is a Wyrm?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The manifestation of Enthropy, also the Hyde to Gaia's Jekyll, possibly a victim in all of this, and generally confusing to all and sundry.

      Still deserves an ass-whooping.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The wyrm deserves weaver wife

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder who could be behind this post

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            All I'm saying is when Wyrm and Weaver procreate, they make a better reality than WoD

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's what got us into this fricking mess you clown.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The cosmic force embodying destruction, entropy, rebirth, and renewal - who has long since been ensnared in the Weaver's web and become utterly insane as a result, now going from someone who destroys to make way for the new into being the cosmic force of corruption, decay, death, and general evil.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In Werewolf, there are three major powers: the Wyld, which is the force of creation; the Weaver, which takes creation and gives it form and structure; and the Wyrm, which is the necessary force of destruction and renewal. Long story short, the Weaver got mad at the Wyrm kept breaking their shit, so they pulled an epic prank where they bound the force of destruction in an ever-constructing cage that the Wyrm couldn't break out of so it couldn't break things the Weaver wanted to make. This made the Wyrm SO FRICKING PISSED (even though it was just a prank) that it became corrupted and now taints everything.

      The most popular explanation is this:
      Before the corruption, you would build things out of natural materials. Boats out of wood, water containers made out of clay, and start fires with wood. After the Wyrm's corruption, and when the Weaver started using more permanent materials so their creation lasted longer, we would get plastic bottles that puts toxins the body, metal boats that infect people with radiation during their construction, use gasoline and other leaded fuels to keep fires lit that cause cancer, and other long-lasting materials that permanently destroy nature.

      The Wyrm is destruction in the worst way possible, caused by a creation that was too selfish to respect the natural order.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No Dommy Mummy Mommy GF to help you rid the world of Vampires and smack some sense into the Werewolves.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why was it so disliked?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's just Oriental mysticism. All the other Cultures of the' world's vampires are the same as the west who've just filled different cultural niches. While Asian vampires are basically nearly different beings because weebdom and anime is so cool!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm chinese and I found Kuel-jin amusing in a The 36th Chamber of Shaolin kind of way.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Good for you, it's still a book written by white weebs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >you are so badass you became a vampire by clawing your way out of hell back to your corpse!
        frick off

        >So are you Chinese or Japanese?
        in book form

        It's WoD's version of the Weeaboo Book of Fightan Magic.

        The only problem with the kuei-jin is that it's exclusive to East Asians only when it should be a thing in all non-abrahamic countries in South Asia and SEA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you are so badass you became a vampire by clawing your way out of hell back to your corpse!
      frick off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So are you Chinese or Japanese?
      in book form

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He’s Kuei-Jin, ain’t you Mr. Kahn

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Old Texan veteran now country singer. He was turned into a thinblood. Could do some blood magic and got super speed.

          Game ended prematurely, but as he was having a hard time controlling the urges and ended up killing an innocent cop that went to help him, well he would have taken a walk in the sun eventually. Bill’s a war hero, a family man, a friend and a proud dog owner. He ain’t a killer, and don’t intend to change that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's WoD's version of the Weeaboo Book of Fightan Magic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason people don't use "Orient" anymore. It's basically if a bunch of white guys who only know of Asian culture by media stereotypes, took every single aspect of a asian culture they saw, disregarded borders and cultural differences between Japan and China, and say, Thailand and smaller lesser known SEA countries, shove 'em all into a blender, and hit "puree".

      Naturally it's defenders are weebs. The only way anyone knows of them now are their appearance in VTM: Bloodlines game (and even then they weren't good and felt jammed in for the sake of it).

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The New World of Darkness has been growing on me, but old Mage is still more fun as a setting. New mage is more fun for noobs, though, since there's far more room for actually using magic.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, the video got age-restricted. Not surprising, but still annoying.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would you date the Weeb Hunter Girl who likes to spank random boys with a yaoi paddle?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yes. I have low standards and am very lonely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dated one, sans the Hunter part.

      It was great until my hormones evened out and I needed to be responsible. Lilium, the opening for Elfen Lied, is permanently corrupted for me.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone played WoD here? What was your last character?

    For those who didn't, what would you like to play?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >For those who didn't, what would you like to play?

      A frazzled ptsd riddled occultist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For all of 1 session, an accountant who loved LARPing, playing with swords, and being a history nerd got turned by a assamite whilst on vacation in South East Europe thinks this is the coolest shit ever and he finally has an excuse to "bring justice to evil" that's he's always daydreamed of, basically just a kevin remix.
      Sadly game never went anywhere cause my little sister who was the dm severely under estimated to amount of prep time required.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I played a mildly schizophrenic, poor, and anti-Romani Frenchman. He was a commercial fisherman who thought he was a chosen of Cthulhu, but was actually a Gangrel Antitribu. My DM let me look like Zaat whenever I would frenzy. He didn't realize learning to talk to animals and comprehend what they were saying wasn't normal, because he would talk to animals all the time as a child and having delusions of their responses. Due to my character being deeply racist against gypsies, everyone else in the campaign presumed that my character knew he was Gangrel because he kept inadvertently killing Ravnos. He ended up dying before knowing the truth and his corpse was thrown overboard into the ocean.

      Which led into the surviving group getting in trouble when the corpse washed up on the shore a couple of days later.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >First time playing. No idea what I was doing. They gave me ex-hitman.
      >Played him as an unemployed boozehound that was perpetually drunk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Old Texan veteran now country singer. He was turned into a thinblood. Could do some blood magic and got super speed.

      Game ended prematurely, but as he was having a hard time controlling the urges and ended up killing an innocent cop that went to help him, well he would have taken a walk in the sun eventually. Bill’s a war hero, a family man, a friend and a proud dog owner. He ain’t a killer, and don’t intend to change that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Angry sea ghost changeling in CtL, basically the embodiment of the Davy Jones myth pissed at the true fae who was the boss of basically all of the sea and it's stories

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did I miss an episode or did they skip the break-in?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like it. Might be revisited in an audio log

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Showin the break in doesnt matter.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who dunnit?
    Harry was MIA during the murder
    Spit might have gone under extreme brainwashing from all the "parties" and "ritalin" he takes. Though that sounds like something a Malk would do rather than a Tremere
    Slackjaw because he took a hit his dad couldn't, but that would mean he isn't working alone
    Fatigue fakes his death and is now moving in secret. Don't know if Tremere are capable of making dolls of flesh, blood, and bone.
    The mole isn't a ghoul, it's something much worse. D choked out Occom to stop him from finishing his ritual and the two are now doing something shiesty to trap the real threat.
    My money is on Spit, but then again, I'm not intelligent to begin with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Realistically?
      It's spit. Either as lone op or as part of a team with SlackJaw and Giles. He demonstrated the most overt symptoms of withdrawal, and was at the scene of Fatigues murder.
      Giles is also a known associate of a known associate of the Camarilla through his day job and could be the ghoul as a result.
      While it's believable that Slackjaw is dumb enough to have two ghoul friends without noticing his abnormal feats of strength and endurance could indicate he is also a ghoul.
      >Knowing the writer?
      All of the above is a red herring. Spit/fatigue is a werewolf and the ghoul is either Harry, Gloria or Occam. Harry was visibly nervous most of the episode, Gloria took every opportunity to split/break off from the group. And Occam was the only one sealed in the chamber with himself and Fatigues death happening after he was unsealed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If Occam was ghoul'd wouldn't they be fricked immediately since he's their chapter master?

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the Werewolf thread on /qst/.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the oldman's death is a red herring
    we have a werewolf *and* a ghoul

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    occram is definitly a mage
    the real deal kind

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I only doubt he is a mage because no sane mage would spend that much time around other humans with wildly conflicting beliefs about how magic works.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it would explain why he needed to conduct the ritual alone tho
        also, his wounds could be due to paradox
        its a very mage thing to flub something simple spectacularly when you need it most

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, he's just a Sorcerer. Which is just magick for people who aren't awakened. Which is why he can do magick without paradox.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        occram is definitly a mage
        the real deal kind

        Explaining this out more for my tism but also because this is a big distinction.

        in the WoD you have two forms of Magick.

        True Magic, which is the bending of reality through your own will. The Mage system, this is why you have Mad Victorian Scientists, Government MIB Spooks, and literal pointyhat wizards all working the same form of magic despite wildly different paradigms. This is through sheer willpower and an avatar, so you can quite literally do anything if you have the knowhow and power. Like say two Verbena can both summon a spirit to their aid, but one uses runes and chants while the other summons one by making a boss ass soup in a cauldron. Or they could go off script if in a desperate situation and abandon their foci for a slightly more difficult spell.

        Then you have hedgemagick. This is every other form of magick in the WoD. Werewolf gifts, Vampire Thaumaturgy, Changeling Arts, etc.
        This is more fixed than true magick. You must complete the ritual or have the necessary components, like changelings need bunks to perform arts or Werewolves need a naturally reflective surface like a still pool of water to step sideways into the Umbra.
        Unawakened Humans can also learn these sorts of spells too, usually through some link to other supernatural or their own doing. The trade off however, is though these spells are immune to paradox, they are far less powerful.

        This is mostly why I see Occam as a Sorcerer, he doesn't display anything more powerful than a young mage and he's doing it pretty damn brazenly in front of the Arcanum scholars. One could argue he's trained the group enough or they're aware of the mutable nature of reality so he doesn't accrue dox, but the ritualistic nature of the blood scrying makes me think he is unable to use True Magick. Finding a ghoul would easily be a Mind/Spirit/Life 1.

        Plus most mages would avoid the Arcanum, since a bunch of sleepers wanting to watch them do magic would be a good way to die from dox

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The splatbooks allow for hedging solar magic?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Plus most mages would avoid the Arcanum, since a bunch of sleepers wanting to watch them do magic would be a good way to die from dox
          Pretty sure, being around hunters (even the unimbued) wouldn't cause you paradox at all. Because they believe in the supernatural and magick on some level. The general rule is PCs/people involved in the supernatural world won't cause you paradox because they're not "asleep" from the idea of magic. They're just enlightened either at the same time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed, but the Arcanum is still mostly full of those still asleep to the mutable idea of reality. I doubt Elise or Grimal are "awake" enough to not cause some level of paradox to a mage attempting a vulgar spell.

            There's quite the difference between a sleeper who has been trained and conditioned to accept the Etherite's Science (with a capital S) and theories to the point he is able to watch the doctor work on his latest experiment vs the scholars with a touch of occult lore in Vampirism or Kithain varieties and only just found out about the traditions when he saw a fledgeling sabbat shovelhead get exploded by a Chorister.
            Most of the Arcanum lies in the latter.

            Also just realized it, but Occam also seems pretty damn unaware of Big Govt being the Technocracy. So another point towards being a sorcerer than a true mage.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              And of course I forgot the bigger thing.

              Imbued Hunters BLEED paradox and banality, even if they are fully aware of True Magick or somehow got whisked into an umbral zone. Its part of their general abilities to not get instagibbed.
              It scares the frick out of Mages as well, as the avatar is also either locked off or gone from the Hunter.

              Very true. But, I doubt any of the hunters in this series are imbued. It seems to go by Hunters Hunted than anything else.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And of course I forgot the bigger thing.

            Imbued Hunters BLEED paradox and banality, even if they are fully aware of True Magick or somehow got whisked into an umbral zone. Its part of their general abilities to not get instagibbed.
            It scares the frick out of Mages as well, as the avatar is also either locked off or gone from the Hunter.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is the ugliest art style I've ever seen, how are you guys gozzling this up? Is the 40k fandom this desperate? Am I getting mkultra'd what is going on here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Is the 40k fandom this desperate?
      Yes. The answer to this question, in any context, is yes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The art style is fine I Don't see anything wrong with it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      objectively shit taste

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I watch it for alfabusa content

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can tell Big D molested Marcus when he turned homosexual in a Britain with woman like this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      she could crush a lesser man's head with those ginormous jugs holy shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      https://i.imgur.com/whPZR95.png

      They finally return

      I have no idea what this is but I really to frick that big goth lady.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Speaking of Marcus is there any chance at this point his bones will form up normal at this point? He is going to be a weird ass bird person when all is said and done.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes they will simply break them again till they grow into the right spot only now he drinks the milk of a unicorn so they heal instantly there are no female unicorns

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I could hear D saying that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Also on the subject of Marcus, why does he fixate on inventing stupid stuff instead of using proper weapons? Is that a reference to Magnus in 40k or some obscure rule in WoD?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he might be a mage.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He is a mage. He has the hubris to boot, too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Think we are going to get one of every WoTD denomination with big d's kids? Leman being a werewolf is easy lock in. I could see Perty being a promethean in this setting. Really I just want perty to show up and argue with Door because we never got it in tts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Prometheans don't exist in old wod. But they should

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ah frick forgot about that. It shame, I like that splat a lot. That and changeling the lost is such a better setting to play with than the owod changeling book

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah, I'd be done to switch em into OwOD and mix VtM and VtR, and WtA and WtF. Mostly cause I'd like to see the VtM nossie seethe that the VtR nossies can be pretty and are much more assholish than their predecessors

                Frick it, throw some fan splats in, Levithan, Genius, Princess...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Suppose they probably dont even want a wiff of beast being connected even tangentially though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just do a short where they all get murdered by Slashers or something

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So is Horse a changeling?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Horse is most likely a Demon, if he's any splat at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't Boy implied to be some sort of supernatural?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He is at least a feral child, considering door found him in the woods. Might be a kinsfolk, in which case he got luck asf to be adopted. Kinsfolk are lower than ghouls on the supernatural pecking order, cept for Daddy haight and the other skin dancers of course.

                Literally the toilets of the supernatural world, breeding stock for the biggest jock douche bags in any reality. All garou should die and be replaced with skindancers at the very least

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What other TTRPG game would you like to see an animated series of?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If someone competent made it, it would be unrivaled in sheer kino.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A delta green series would either be dogshit or one of the best animated series ever made with nothing in-between.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Esoterrorists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rifts

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >git, who is conveniently behind a barricaded door goes unsuspected in the thread
    willing to bet spit had a big panic attack and git used the opportunity to kill wernon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      (me) but some potential evidence could be the fact that he was keeping up with WoD Kitten during the intro fight. Kitten clearly has some weird things happen to him, given what he talks about in the audiologs.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can you be a Vampire and not be a c**t? Or does it come with the embrace?

    Jack seemed on the level.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The video about Big D gently staying with the old lady vampire as the sun rises says it all, really. You can fight the Beast. You can try to avoid drinking the Sabbath koolaid. You can go through the motions of being a person, and some of the lore like Golconda or campaign-only fiat "God forgives you" level miracles can reward true faith we don't talk about the one where if you're nice to Lilith's blood daughter/avatar, she rewards you by turning you into a speshul snowflake custom splat shorn of vampire weaknesses by letting you drink the Tree of Life's juices from her blood

      However. The instinct to see everyone as meat and blood will always be part of the default vampire condition. It's like alcoholism, except it never goes away.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you can, its just very very hard to do
      the embrace literally guts your soul in half and puts both sides against each other
      itswhat humanity is all about, the higher it is the more your good side is in control

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine you were embraced and you join some sort of Kindred faction because if you don't you won't survive for too long.
      You try your best to not be a c**t but virtually everything you do as a vampire pawn requires some level of c**t-ness
      >Drinking mortal blood either by ambushing them, tricking them or convincing some poor soul to be your slave
      >Running errands for your c**t bosses who expect you to do the c**tish, dirty work they aren't willing to do themselves
      >Sabotaging, lying and killing to protect the masquerade
      >Dealing with other c**ts that want you dead because it benefits them somehow
      So you realize as a pawn you can't not be a c**t and you decide to claw your way up in vampire society, that's when you realize everyone who's reached some sort of authority or power are tremendous c**ts.
      The reason for that is simple, those who are willing to play dirty have a massive advantage over those who aren't, so by natural selection being a c**t is the way forward.
      And even if you claw your way up and end up not being a c**t, you have centuries of this shit to deal with.
      Every decade eroding your memory of being human and your sympathy for them.
      Every decade adding another bit of trauma you learn to be wary of.
      Every decade you find it easier and easier to justify what you're doing until at some point you don't even need to justify it.
      Consider regular humans and how much of a jaded c**t someone can become through a few bad experiences during their short lives, a vampire experiences the same thing except much more frequently, for MUCH longer and with no hope of ever carving out the sort of stable, comforting environment a human would need.
      A pissy mortal grandpa went through some shit a few decades ago and now he lives in his house mostly relaxed save for bitter memories and projection.
      A vampire can't afford to slow down because everyone who doesn't want him dead wants something from him and they all backstab him, forever, until final death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You absolutely can. The whole point of Big D rehabilitating Kevin and staying with that out,d grandma is to show that being embraced does not make you inherently evil - you can fight the Beast and hold on to your humanity, it's just very painful and very hard. And if you're very unlucky like the grandma was, then your whole family could be killed by your own hands after you're embraced before you even regain awareness.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you be a vampire and not be a c**t
      Sure. Be Saulot, try to attain Golconda, be one of those three eye dudes, try to repent (I think there is a Gehenna scenario based around it) and such.

      Problem is most of those scenarios wind up with all the other c**ts trying to frick ya over

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It's just generally difficult to hold on to it between the vampire stuff and just how fricking shit things are in WoD

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The odds are stacked against you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but by their very nature a vampire would be gimping themselves by holding onto their humanity plus the entirety of vampire society is stacked against you.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With how powerful mages are they could easily kill Caine and frick the Vampires over. I dunno why they wont

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't give a shit. The technocracy views vampires the same way they view all deviants, they don't really spend any more resources on them than on any other group, and the traditions probably want vampires running around because it shifts the paradigm in their favor.
      I fricking hate WoD btw it's such a stupid setting jesus christ.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The answer is because, unironically, despite how hard their own books wank them both Caine and the Antediluvians are jerked off even harder by the edgy writers. This is most evident lorewise when felling the Ravnos Ante is something that took the Technocracy's strongest assets plus the strongest Kuel-jin in existence helping and IIRC some werewolf help too, and was considered an exhaustive effort for everyone involved. But to a certain extent it even exists in gameplay just by how fricking much Discipline wank there is for something that is supposed to be a curse.

      >B-but Masters of the Art says mages can introduce new forces to the universe-
      Yeah and Demon says Cain defiled reality itself with the first murder to the extent he was the reason angels and demons could properly kill each other at all
      >B-but Masters of the Art says that mages can create universes-
      And it's very, very hard and complex while Antes can just use Disciplines at will. And at the 10th rank, a Discipline is defined as a literal plot device on the level of illusion control letting you trap someone in an illuroy alternate reality like the goddamn Sharingan.

      You have to understand. Masters of the Art was something mandated by the marketing department, and that the ACTUAL WRITERS of Mage thought was a terrible idea. While every single piece of vampire wank has most of the vampire writers' endorsement behind it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh and just to clarify, my answer doesn't necessarily contradict

        Because they don't give a shit. The technocracy views vampires the same way they view all deviants, they don't really spend any more resources on them than on any other group, and the traditions probably want vampires running around because it shifts the paradigm in their favor.
        I fricking hate WoD btw it's such a stupid setting jesus christ.

        . The thing thing about the Technocracy and Traditions is that while they can frick up vampires with a well-aimed ritual, they need time, effort and resources to plan out those rituals (or "super sciences") while vampires can just use Disciplines with an idle thought. As a result, the Technocracy and Traditions are more focused on long term, Infinity Gauntlet-style "we'll do this one ritual that will-WE HOPE-reshape humanity/the cosmos according to our visions. We have no guarantee this will actually work so we have some more practical backup plans we're focusing our energy on first" than trying to hunt down and kamehameha every vampire. Which would get them BTFO by Paradox.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I still love how the opening move of that fight was to nuke the afterlife with the ghost of every nuke ever fired.

        And then the next step was to blast the motherfricker with a laser powered with every ounce of energy an interstellar empire could channel on short notice.

        There's frick you and then there's frick you with *Style*

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          God bless the technocracy, heroes of the world of darkness

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are the writers of mage and vampire different people? I thought it was the same group that did both.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anything mages can do easily they can frick up twice as easy and they usually have

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >With how powerful mages are they could easily kill Caine
      Hahahahaha NO. Lilith in one ToJ scenario literally walks in against Caine with an entire cabal of Archmages to kick his ass. Caine's response? Kill literally all of the archmsges before Lilith could even react. Caine (and Lilith for that matter) is stronger than 99% of archmages.

      Them merely acting to try and kill a recently roused and vastly weakened Ravnos during the Week of Nightmares outright CRIPPLED the Technocracy and blew up most of their horizon realms whilst driving many of their forces mad. It's for this reason they couldn't act to stop the domino effect the Week of Nightmares caused which leads into the world basically ending.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ToJ isn't canon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But isn't it if you touch caine you die? Mark of Caine, sevenfold stuff? Or is that not in WoD?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's specifically if you HARM Caine, then the damage returns to you sevenfold. But there are ways to skirt around that without technically harming him - what actually makes Caine dangerous is he can create new Disciplines at any scale literally instantly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon caine's statblock is literally "you lose" he's protected by God like the actual creator and decider of everything God his fate is up to the writers and GM and every guideline for the GM/writers involving him is that you cannot beat him

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It Mages dumping a shit load of resources to take out just one Antedulivian. Caine would rape them

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it true if you cast a fireball as a mage and a normie sees you, you explode?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, because Paradox will rape your face. A fireball might not necessarily kill you, but Paradox escalates the harder YOU escalate and anything above that has a good chance of popping you like a particularly wet balloon.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    btw, this level of carnage is not something a ghoul could pull even if his master granted him potence
    this is more a theriantrophe scenario
    it means they have a ghoul AND a werewolf arround
    it mightve not even been on purpose, the furries have to deal with insane innerrage
    especially if some moron tries to mind controll them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Ghouls aren't capable of dismembering people
      Absolute Bullshit.
      You're just talking out of your ass to prop up your pet theory.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have my doubt concerning Elise, she's the most likely canditate to be the traitor and i feel big D has that same suspicion which is why he grabbed her specifically to interrogate her alone. That or she has some magic stuff going on besides those massive mammaries.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She knocked PoG out with a blowie chokie session and leaked nudes to fatigue who was so aroused his body self detonated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hm.
      Elise *did* suspect that Magnus was a nascent mage. She must possess at least some knowledge of the arcane.

      Yeah, there's a decent chance that she's the ghoul.
      When Kitten found her before the first incident she was adjusting her hair-tie. She could have used it to choke out Occam from behind.
      She also demonstrated that she's a competent pick-pocket, stealing Giles personal effects (keys, wallet, smokes). Perhaps she stole an archive key from somebody.
      There's also the presumed exchange she made which led to the kitchen staff ending up with the stolen smokes and keys.
      She also conveniently wandered off alone minutes prior to Fatigue's death.

      The only other possibilities that seem likely are:
      >Occam
      >Fatigue
      >Dr. Gloria

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt it ends up being any of Marckus's pals for the sole fact that they're friends of the gang and have a modicum of plot armor

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine the rough, bitey, feral sex marathon with Grimal while every speaker in your house is blown out playing max volume fist of the north star music. Kitten made Vykos step down form his huge homosexual throne to offer him his crown of dicks for giving her up

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Man I wish I could play WoD right now. Shame my group of friends aren’t inclined to try it, GM included

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How fricking tall is the goth girl? I know she looked big cuz of the breasts and body but she seemed tall as frick too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She could use grimal like a sex toy, kitten to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Over 6 foot easy. She's the kinda girl that can Snu-Snu

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I did not expected the leader of the arcanum to actually have powers, by the way the org was being set up i expected them to be nothing but non-supernatural book collectors or some shit.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly Kitten snapping at Grimald made no sense. I thought they parted on good terms?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kitten is just a dumb stressed b***h

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I guess that's what happens when your BF is too broken to frick. Also what's the time frame of this whole series? Is this all happening in a week? I can see the stress if that's the case.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Night in the Woods
          ---
          Morning, D tortures Kevin for most of the day
          Stinky Pete diablerizes his mates and breaks out, corpse obliterated by the next sunrise
          ---
          Day spent at the police station, night spent on the funny little train
          ---
          The next day spent with Uncle Horse
          ---
          Markus went pubbing, Big D visited the old woman vampire. After sunrise, D went to the 99p store. Markus and Kitten pretended to make a podcast, possibly.
          ---
          Breaking into the chapter house.

          So yeah, all of this seemingly has happened in a single week. Yikes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then yes I can see why they're all wanting to go ape.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Magnus did NOTHING WRONG

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Grimmal is as cute as she is insufferable, and I'd frick Eliese if she didn't weigh twice as much as I do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >her weighing twice as much as you
      >this is a turn off
      low testosterone

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Listen, I can do some extra padding, but when it starts to fold I'm out.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So what was the spooky whispering during the credits?

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So I guess this is a Blacklaw family photo. Must be Blacklaw, Blacklaw's sister, Occam as a...teen? Occam's dad, and a young Brok with one of those propeller hats. I know Brok is in his mid 30s or so but I wonder how old that makes Occam. Also wonder whoever those other two in there are.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If this isn’t proof that Big D is a mummy, I don’t know what is.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the picture more closely, you can obviously tell that Big D is younger here with a far more gangly build. Plus it would be kind of weird if no one noticed he was practically ageless.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Mummies are ageless, but they aren’t always what they looked like when mummified. Mummies awake from hibernation at their physically weakest, looking like an actual corpse, but supernaturally strongest. As they become more and more like their human self, they grow supernaturally weaker, until they need to go back into hibernation again.

          You’re confusing him being less than corpse-like with gangly. Also mummies are affiliated with Ra, the God of the Sun, which would attract an already sexually confused Solar like Occam.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're reading too much into it, it's just a younger Big D back when he had the physique of Shaggy

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              How does D know what he knows if he wasn’t there when it happened? How did he survive a Methuselah?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >How did he survive a Methuselah?
                He's just THAT GOOD

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Being good =/= bring a le to survive a Methuselah. Battles with Methuselahs start and end with "I speedblitz and drop a mountain on you". Not even Imbued have the means to match Methuselahs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Exalted do.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think YOU'RE reading too much into it. It took me a while to even figure out you meant the ugly woman on the far left. There's no reason he'd be in that family photo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Big D is a mummy
        Big D may be a filthy fricking homosexual but there is no evidence that he is a transsexual.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How exactly do makes function, and could Big D basically be a 1-1 like Big E? Like was he born from a bunch of prehistory shamans merging together to form a gestalt in a single body? And maybe that's why he seems so insane and switches from shouting madman to affable chap Ina heartbeat(as the different shaman personalities taking over); and his pansexual preference as he takes on the kinks of every soul that was used to create him?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mages not makes
      I fricking hate autocorrect. Now it changes correctly spelled words for no fricking reason

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How exactly do makes function
      They perform alterations to reality, breaks in Consensus that let them work their will on the world. Originally, this let makes do almost anything since Consensus was that magic existed and was a constant, but after the Order of Reason/the Technocracy altered things so magic is now treated as vulgar when done by mages, they now get slapped with Paradox.

      >and could Big D basically be a 1-1 like Big E? Like was he born from a bunch of prehistory shamans merging together to form a gestalt in a single body?
      Potentially, but that's more like the sort of backstory an archmage might have and something like that wouldn't be able to exist in reality under Consensus - D would explode from Paradox instantly if that were the case.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And the order did that because Mages were doing shit like grinding up babies into powder, and a few of them went "Wait that's fricking evil as frick, we'll stop you shit-heels" and so was born the Order, that became the technocracy

        And said baby mulchers went on to become vampires, once the Consensus shifted enough that their immortality elixirs stopped working

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    when are they going to bang the cute gals?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I was expecting D to be trying to frick Elise when he took her off for interrogation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think Markus could handle the sight of his goth friend making a new sibling with his father

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He can hide his eyes all he wants, we will hear the claps all the way to New York and think 9/11 is happening again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I suppose two fertility god avatars going at it would cause that effect. Not to mention an inordinate amount of screaming and yelling, that would simultaneously make everyone uncomfortable but intrigued.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I fricking hate nose rings and I genuinely do not understand how all of you could have sex with someone that willingly makes themselves look as absolutely hideous as possible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the closet Grimal will get is watching gay sex from the cuck chair

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/whPZR95.png

      They finally return

      I didn't expect the Ghazghkull dad would be just as crazy as Big D.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Episode was certainly a good source for more reaction pics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
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        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This face made me laugh and feel uneasy at the same time.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that looks of "boy I respect it but now's the time to step the frick back"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
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          Anonymous

          Reminds me of Zelda CDI King
          >MY BOY

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think that's the obvious reference, yes

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          D looks so authoritative and polite here it's genuinely unnerving. Like he's teaching integrals and about to tell the class the modular method to save time. But it's D so so if you don't listen to him, he'll rip your face off.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          One last exploitable to close the thread

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            *lust provoking image with irrelevant time wasting question

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Question to OWoD lore gays.

    Are the Faes living in the Upper Umbra? Since it’s the realm of the human mind and they seem to be associated with that. Also I heard that deities were sometimes aspects of the Faes, and I know that gods, their pantheons and the concepts they represent are found in the Upper Umbra. Makes me wonder if the two are the same, or were the Faes larping first and then the “gods” formed in the Upper Umbra. Hell, perhaps even the other way around too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "Yeah, "The dreaming" is within the high umbra. Which is where the Fae kingdom of Arcadia is. Human dreams take place in a sort of "in-between" zone called near-dreaming. Fae can jump into human dreams but humans have to practice lucid dreaming or use mage mind sphere magic?

      Actually Lucid dreaming practice might be a type of hedge magic in the WoD.
      It's said in CTD: Kithbook: Satyrs that the Greek Gods were changelings. So you might be right. Take that with a grain of salt. That's just their version of history.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I see. That’s good to know. I’m asking about that because I had a character concept in mind. Here’s some of my old posts on the WoD general.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Interesting concept. But could a Tremere really lived within the dreaming? They're quite banal people when it comes down to it. You could argue they're a gothic fantasy. The dreaming will basically kick out any person who's too "banal" lacking the whimsy and wonder of the land. I think Vampires are considered inherently banal creatures by changelings who should be avoided. Just another part of the whole "every other splat hates vampires" theme.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well I checked. I can’t say about the Near-Dreaming, but there’s a paragraph in the Dreaming about mortals (sleepers, garous and mages) who experience chimaeric death in the Dreaming. Since they become a recipient of Banality and can endanger everyone and everything, the realm of the Dreaming yeets them out into the nearest corresponding part of the Umbra. Vampires are said to be sent to the Shadowlands where all their victims would surely like to have a good old chat about how they died. Though it doesn’t mention if it’s vamps and other undeads in general or only those who experienced chimaeric death. Personally I would assume the latter. It also means that the Tremere could still stay in the Near-Dreaming.

            Though as to why a vampire would go to the Dreaming is beyond me. Even powerful mages get no-diff by changelings in their realm, and are even more subject to Paradox. Well a normal Kindred would likely be everyone’s prison b***h if trapped there. One specialized in the dreams could stand a decent chance imo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now that I think about it, isn’t lucid dreaming a sabbat skill too?

        Yes, the Dreaming is in the High Umbra. And whilst some deities were Fae larping, others are Celestines and such.

        Thanks for the info

        [...]
        Interesting concept. But could a Tremere really lived within the dreaming? They're quite banal people when it comes down to it. You could argue they're a gothic fantasy. The dreaming will basically kick out any person who's too "banal" lacking the whimsy and wonder of the land. I think Vampires are considered inherently banal creatures by changelings who should be avoided. Just another part of the whole "every other splat hates vampires" theme.

        Well when I first thought of the concept I hadn’t envisioned how Faes would interact with my character. Hell, I don’t remember if I ever got at the time a conclusive answer on if the Faes were dwelling in the High Umbra or another dimension. So in a way my concept just encompasses the Mage and Werewolf splats along with the Vampire.

        I don’t know much about the Faes, or how they would interact with a Vampire/Tremere. I guess that unless he’s invited to their city or the dreaming, he would mostly dwell on the near-dreaming? Some kind of “neighbor”, with the self-appointed mission to make sure things don’t degenerate in his “kingdom”. Some would view his responsible attitude like he has a broom up his butt.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Dreaming isn't in the High Umbra, it's a separate zone that floats around.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, the Dreaming is in the High Umbra. And whilst some deities were Fae larping, others are Celestines and such.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With all the talk of Vampire, Werewolves, Hunters, Mages, Changelings, Mummies, and Demons where exactly do Wraiths fit in to all of this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are ghosts with their own ghost dimension you go to when you can;t move on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're spirits of people who couldn't pass on to the true afterlife and are stuck in the Shadowlands, bound by their Fetters and Passions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
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      Anonymous

      They are ghosts that barely anyone can see or interact with without having actively use magic/Disciplines or whatever. Also the games is wrapped around this one player having to be your darkside who's actively sabotaging your progress. Making it not being a favorite to play. Wraith is basically self contained apart from it's lore about the spirit world which Necromancer vampires and mages interact with.

  69. 1 month ago
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  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fa/tg/uys are proposing Elise might be a Awakened Changeling Sluaugh or a Kinain. What are those and what are the odds of this being true?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Astronomically low.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Very unlikely. Elise being any sort of Changeling and doing shit like walking into pubs would kill her hilariously quickly.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fertility goddess-thicc goth Elise

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is the closest thing to a 40K White Scar in ward of Darkness?# Shadowsun and Kor'sarro Khan.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You lot are way too eager to make nearly every character some kind of supernatural critter.
    So far all we have is
    >Markus - who's almost definitely a mage judging by how his pub fight was resolved through a series of fortunate but extremely improbable events happening one after the other (plus it fits since he's not-Magnus)
    >Boy - who's potentially something considering demon Horse spoke to him
    >Horse - probably some kind of demon
    Personally I'd be very disappointed if D ends up not being human because what makes hunters interesting is that they're bog standard humans who can actually threaten or even defeat supernatural entities that are more powerful than them and have far more influence than them through sheer determination, planning and force of will.
    I'm not bringing up imbued because none of the hunters mentioned having an imbuing moment, so in this series being imbued is not a prerequisite for being a hunter.
    That being said, D in particular being imbued might be cool.
    It would explain why he's super-competent without making him less human.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >series being imbued is not a prerequisite for being a hunter.
      That's never really been the case in the OWod. Hunter's hunted sourcebooks? The imbued were basically the just 1% of hunters. Most of the hunter red shirts you kill in masse in VTM and sometimes WTA are just regular guys with used homemade napalm and such. Then the higher level hunters being apart of the FBI's SAD unit which had exploding ammo and wore riot gear.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Personally I'd be very disappointed if D ends up not being human
      He almsot certainly isn't anon. He, his father, and his brothers managed to kill a fricking Methuselah - the type of kindred whose average is blowing up mountains or shaking mountain ranges when they clash. No hunter, no matter how strong, is EVER beating a Methuselah in a fight. Ever.

      And this is ignoring him having intimate knowledge of shit he has no right to know about, like the nature of werewolves, namedropping the New World Order (they're a branch of the Technocracy), and being very confident in finding and murdering Caine or settling for the 3rd Gens if that's not possible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Being good =/= bring a le to survive a Methuselah. Battles with Methuselahs start and end with "I speedblitz and drop a mountain on you". Not even Imbued have the means to match Methuselahs.

        He did say "bested" rather than killed IINM, obviously even an army of D-like hunters couldn't take on an antediluvian head-on but I like imagining they still managed to "best" it.
        Maybe they didn't actually fight it but rather did some esoteric something or other to either keep it form awakening, put it back to sleep, or otherwise indirectly stop it from being a threat.
        Maybe they did fight it but he conveniently neglected to mention it wasn't JUST him, his father and his brothers, instead getting a lot of help and being part of a coordinated attack.
        Shit, maybe they just snuck up on it while it was sleeping during the day and staked it. (I say "just" but considering their bullshit passive security it's still a feat of legend, it just so happens to be somewhat more practical than beating a Methuselah in a fight)
        Methuselah can and are often killed (final killed?) by "inferior" creatures, I don't think it's impossible for a well-connected cell of outrageously good hunters to pull it off given enough help, planning and luck.
        All that is assuming D isn't just full of shit about the Methuselah thing, he did get fricked by Fyodr.

        Truth is Methuselah are so far up the power scale that what they do, how they influence the world and how you'd deal with them is more lore and fluff than it is mechanics, so how do you best a Methuselah? however the ST deems it works.
        It's not going to be through traditional means like fair combat so the players would come up with a plan and the ST would have to decide if it makes sense.

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care. I like the storyline of D becoming E, Kevin gradually turning into Malcador the hero and them becoming the best friends in history, the primarchs and all that shit due to E trying to re-live his human family.

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If these characters are analogues of WH40K characters, like Big D is Emps and Grimal is Shadowsun, doesn’t that mean that Harry is to Markus what Ahriman is to Magnus?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Or Harry is Leman
      >Harry Jacket
      >Hairy Jacket
      >What’s a hairy jacket?
      >A fur coat
      >What has a fur coat?
      >Wolves

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I would laugh if Harry is actually Garou kinfolk. I doubt it highly, but can you fricking imagine?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If Harry is a kinfolk he'd likely be of the Fianna or Get of Fenris tribe given the fact he's situated it Britain.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Harry being a Get
            God, they better hope not. The Get are buttholes.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Well Harry is quite a buff lad, and him being so nice and passive would be a good little subversion of him being part of The Get

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Reminds me of the WtA game I played, where I played a doomer drunk of a werecrow called Erik eat the bookworm who got given a fricking rifle war glaive by the ST at the start (I killed fricking everything), which isn't why he did what he did that followed though he did use it later to blast the head off a high level black spiral who was supposed to be a primary antagonist, thus showing why you do not house rule klaives into fricking marksman's rifles

              See he was an aussie, and he liked a bit a banter. And there was a pack of Get he was feuding with, they asked him to be their pet bird to cosplay odin, he said frick off then banged one of their Kin folk to spite them, it escalated from there. But anyways, him and his multi-shifter pack ran into these raging shit bags at the aussie beast council meeting, whatever and their freak show of a Metis, think he was twelve or eleven feet tall, shows up to provide muscle for the lead she b***h and her lackies her were beefing with my bird man.

              Metis' name was Tiny. Now Erik had a particular...talent of pissing off werewolves, first session, he got one of two wolves in our party to use honor by making him rage in the middle of town with a bit of banter, and that was someone he liked.

              Erik fricking hated Tiny, so while the rest of the party, who didn't know why their drunken pal was being menaced by one of the meanest packs left on the continent, looked tiny up and down, flashed a wry grin and said "I know they don't call you Tiny because of your height"

              Instant Rage, One of our pack is instantly sent flying from a single punch while another grabs the cackling Erik and drags him into the umbra and away from the murder rape fueled death machine.

              And Tiny and Pals had another reason to hate him, since they got scolded for losing their cool, since there were other werebeasts around to call the wolves morons in this scenario.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >a werecrow called Erik

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt it, Harry and Markus don't have the same dynamic as Ahriman and Magnus even pre-Heresy.
      If they're not done with reference characters I think the next logical candidate is Vulcan and the 3 custodians right afterwards.
      Is Elise a reference character? closest analogue that comes to mind is Corvus but that's surely wrong, right?

      Or Harry is Leman
      >Harry Jacket
      >Hairy Jacket
      >What’s a hairy jacket?
      >A fur coat
      >What has a fur coat?
      >Wolves

      No fricking way, Leman and Magnus hated each other even long before The Heresy, they would not be on such good terms.
      I think Harry's just a guy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kitten has three brothers. Elise is a Necron analogue.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Kitten has three brothers.
          OH YEAH! I totally forgot about that.
          I bet one of them is super salty about kitten getting to Markus before him.
          >Elise is a Necron analogue.
          I guess? she's not very Necron-like other than being kinda spooky.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s briefly seen, but her eyes glow, she is in all black, she barely emotes or changes her intonation, and her being a mountain of a woman is a joke about how necrons are fleshless robots. She also steals everything like Trayzn, but that’s too weak of “evidence” at this point.

            There’s also the old TTS joke about Magnus sending a cease and desist order to the necrons for stealing the designs of the Rubricons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I thought Krakus would be Corvus since he’s in a hole and Corvus when we first see him was in a “the box”. Or given that it’s a hole and Door doesn’t want boy to talk to him it’s most likely Perturabo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Big D and his family being 40k analogues is because they were the most prominent characters in TTS. Everyone else outside of them are completely original.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Grimal is Shadowsun and Kevin is Malcadore.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Grimal is Shadowsun and Kevin is Malcadore.

        And Brok is Gorgutz.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Brok is Gorgutz
          Who or what are his two minions supposed to be?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            One’s a git and the other’s another git named Spit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only a handful are 40K analogues, mainly the ones that appeared in the series long enough in If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device to have their own personalities unique from canon.

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got images of that nice old man who got compromise at the end of the episode?

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like the implication that Grimal is still pretty hung up over the end of her relationship with Kitten, or more accurately by the fact Kitten dumped her for being insufferable, by the looks of things.
    She's clearly not interested in him anymore but being dumped for having the personality of a cheese grater with "MADE IN NIHON" written on it with a sharpie can't be good for your self esteem.
    I like Grimal-kun-chama, she's the best while also being the worst

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I guess turning someone gay because of your mistakes will make anyone a little unhappy,

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Seems more like she wants Kitten to be happy and is mad that he isn't, cause he's living her dream life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I want to clean her bumfug her. I want it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I want to clean her bumfug her. I want it.

          What in the funkwaggle did autocorrect do?

          I want to bang Grimmel. There.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't try to hide behind autocorrect anon.
            We saw your true nature.
            We all saw you have a horny-seizure.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did anyone else notice there seems to be the Box they put Magnus in with those blanks in the special room?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a lot of references in the archives.

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any novels or splat books worth reading for fun in this setting? I remember trying out the vampire splat books a long while past and being disappointed how little there was in them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      try asking for pdfs in /tg/, they usually have most of them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I liked the werewolf anthologies, like Hell-Storm where they interact with the other supernaturals, featuring an in-universe on the nose powergamer villain trying to be a mage/werewolf/vampire all at once.

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda hoping D is one of the Imbued, just to add to the absolute absurdity of the situation.
    Also, so there's an excuse to listen to these tracks again.

    also I just like the H:tR vidyagame.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What are Imbued? Super Hunters?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kinda. For whatever reason they're regular human beings who have been contacted by a supernatural force, usually in the forms of whispers or words contorting into a new messages, and can now seen the supernatural that is hidden from average humans. They can have a variety of abilities such as making making weapons hit harder and breathing out a damaging fog from there mouths, but the most important powers are their inherent ability to see monsters for what they really are and remember it. For example Imbued can see through the illusions of a vampire and see the terrifying visage they're trying to hide, and if they see a werewolf they don' t go mad with fear like regular people do.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Basically, they are the Player Character statblocks and archetypes for the Hunter gameline pre-5e which shifted to focus on regular people.
        Basically a PC is like every other Average Joe until a voices calls out to them to notice something wrong about the world awakening them to the Wold of Darkness beneath.
        In doing so they are filled with an urge to fight against the Dark and are imbued with powers to do so.
        Their are 9 Creed's one of which a Hunter will naturally gravitate to and which they will gain powers relating to.

        The Creeds are
        Innocents: Those who want to understand the monsters as people
        Martyrs: Those who seek to bear the predations of monsters to protect others
        Redeemers: Those who try and cure or stabilize monsters
        Hermits: Those gifted supernatural information to warn others about monsters
        Visionaries: Those who try and see the bigger picture and plan accordingly to deal with monsters at the source
        Avengers: Those who slay monsters for their crimes against others
        Defenders: Those who first and foremost seek to protect people from monsters
        Judges: Those who seek to understand monsters as to judge their actions accordingly
        Waywards: Those who view the fight against monster as so important that no mercy can be given and no cost to great

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Think Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but a team of slayers that scare the shit out of vampires and werewolves.
        Imagine you're a blood sucking son of a b***h with a bunch of c**t friends looking to feed on some human cattle. You and your pals spy an odd mix of people:
        an accountant, a disco enthusiast, a housewife, and a hobo. Easy pickings. You and your vampire buddies decide to jump then, and you being a nice boss decide to be generous and let your minions go first..
        The accountant looks your way and suddenly your pals all slump to the floor like they're carrying some kind of invisible weight on their backs that weighs a metric frick ton
        You're fine though but utterly confused, and attack the accountant before he can do that again.
        Before you reach him the housewife steps in front of him and you collide with the air around her, which feels like you've run into a wall of acid, and your undead skin is starting to boil sizzle and pop.
        You look to see the disco enthusiast start karate chopping some of your immobile vampire minions and slicing them in fricking half, while the hobo has taking out a lead pipe that not only caves in the heads of your minions but lights them on fire, reducing them to ashes.
        Finally, the accountant looks you square in the eyes, says, "Guilty," and vaporizes you.
        Congrats, you just died to a group of Imbued Hunters. High level ones, but still, some goofy shit can happen.
        Best part is that the forces of Darkness can't perceive the powers of the Imbued, so its as terrifying to them as they are to normal people.

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    giw i was a spirit/prime mage with a garou spouse

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Clanbooks alone are a good time
    Especially the old ones

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Malk entry
      Better than it being admired and celebrated.
      Could you imagine a civilization that championed literal insanity in such a manner, what an absolute shitsho- oh wait...

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kembin.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kembin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why does it look like Kevin has dunked his hands into a barrel of tar?
      Is that a characteristic of Tremere morphology - like how all Nosferatos are butt ugly - or is it a trait unique to The Great and Mighty K?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He was living in a cave and then held in a British basement

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        most likely a result of his induction into the Sabbat, where very often they force their newcomers to frenzy, something that very often can lead to permanent physical changes, claws being the most common example. Its a good way for other vampires to instantly recognize someone who has already let the Beast take control and thus cant be fully trusted in vampire society.

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OK now someone explain Orpheus to me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      n o

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok fine. It’s a weird sidegrade of Wraith. I don’t really get why you’d play it instead of Wraith.

      So is the Vampire's Gehenna and the Werewolf's apocalypse the same thing?

      Sort of! They’re the same in that each scenario is a different end of the world. They’re different in that they definitely can’t all be true and they’re’s good reason to believe in any of them vs any of the others.
      The ending of Demon: The Fallen fits too.

      The only constant across all books is that the Tremere, if present, get *FRICKED* super hard. It’s like a running joke (and definitely not because of the consequences of their horrible, horrible choices)

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So is the Vampire's Gehenna and the Werewolf's apocalypse the same thing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They can be.
      When the overarching plot of World of Darkness got to complex for White Wolf to keep up they decided release The Time of Judgment a series of books for each mainline game which are basically all various apocalypse scenarios meant to fit the combination of games and themes present in your campaign group. Then they rebooted the setting as Chronicles of Darkness before going back to the OG timeline and ignoring the Apocalypse stuff for 5e.

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How would TTS have made Vashtorr and Lion El'Jonson funny?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vashtorr the crypto bro, Lion El'flaminghomosexual

  87. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wow what the frick

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fatigue looks like a nicer, muscular Chad Eustace.

  88. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So whats everyone's thoughts on the the rate that content came out, and how it relates to how far the series has progressed.
    Before the 7 month gap we had something new coming out roughly every 2 months and as of today the series as a whole has been running for 814 days or a little over 2 years.
    I ask because with any long running web series with good chunks of time between episodes I personally get concerned with the creative vision being tainted by the IRL time between releases causing series to rush to make the releases "worth it", but HtP seems to be mostly avoiding that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is fine.

      The longer wait had to do with new character designs and animations and that crap takes time. Not to mention the splotches of animation changes to make it dynamic and not.

      Then there's the music portion.

  89. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if a Mage somehow managed to “poof” Cain out of existence, what would kill him first: God or Paradox?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its implied that all human souls are fragments of God in demon:the fallen and some mage paradigms, since no one knows where God is
      the second would be depending on the mage's power level and sanctum protection as an archmage of prime would be able to just magic the paradox away also

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        forgot image

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Huh, never got deep enough into Mage to see stuff like this, didn’t know they could do that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            most games limit spheres to 5, as archmage status basically designates someone as being near ascension to a higher plane of existance

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think we only got one or two sessions in before we stopped since I was still in school at the time and lived out of town.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Caine is strong enough to kill an entire cabal of archmages, and is just as strong as (if not stronger) Lilith who herself is stronger than the aforementioned archmages, due to being less a weird transhuman monstrosity like Voormas and closer to a person who ascended to godhood but kept the skinsuit around.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is anyone stronger than Caine aside from God? Also if he is a vampire does that mean that the sun can kill him?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not sure how accurate this is

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I feel like Mages should be separate bar on the chart since low level mages with access to one dot spheres are just barely above most normies in terms of power. The quadratic growth hits hard after they start getting additional dots.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Does this take into account the Imbued's heightened paradox effect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anything on the level of the Triat, God, or Grandmaw can meme all over Caine.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Are there other gods?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Well there are faes larping as ones, great spirits that are embodies them too. I think some powerful ghosts are considered as ones, as well as demons. Ancient beings like vampires were also called gods. If you’re talking about something of the magnitude of capital G, I’m not sure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Celestines are deities in their own right and there are lots of powerful spirits and such, yes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Also if he is a vampire does that mean that the sun can kill him?
            No the Sevenfold Seal means that if he goes outside during the day he'll blow up the sun.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >No the Sevenfold Seal means that if he goes outside during the day he'll blow up the sun
              So he’s less of a character and more of just a plot element?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes he is a walking plot device, so divorced from the actual day to day shit players will get up to in the setting that any GM worth their salt will treat him like background lore.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Brother the Sun ain't dying or even getting injured to aggravated damage even if you stuck the fricking First Murderer in a solar plants major focusing lense

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > God and his angels
              "Hm, I think I'll punish this one psychotic gay by destroying the entire solar system and everyone in it if he violates supernatural house arrest."

              Why does anyone in setting worship these things?

  90. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The worst part about HtP is that we have to wait another year for the next episode. And considering the cliffhanger it ended on, I don't see them making any audio-only episodes in between.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maybe they spent the last year making multiple episodes?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno. Could maybe do audio bits for the rooms/interactions we didn't see or something going on elsewhere like with Kevin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They might make audio-animations of their Mage sessions. I think they said something about making visuals for them on the patreon.
      I found out about those form the /tg/ thread, and there are already a bunch of episodes free to download off their patreon, avaliable on podcast places and Spotify.
      I've only listened to the first ep, but it's good so far. Real cozy PnP feel but with cool audio editing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh hey, I didn't know about the M;tA actual play, thanks for that.
        I'll give it a listen at some point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Door and boy are doing their own thing so maybe we'll get an audio episode of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Door said they'd go for O'Tolley's for food. So if they're really unlucky they might end up dealing with Formori, Werewolves, or even getting tainted or possessed by Banes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Door, to the six foot mound of rotting chip grease and formorach manning the till; "My son did not want any pickles."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Make it a variant where Door states, “He asked for no bread or vegetables,” and it might be funny.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Make it a variant where Door states, “He asked for no bread or vegetables,” and it might be funny.

            >Door: Worker, my son requested no vegetables or bread. Amend this.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Change worker to proletariat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Door is American, there's no way in hell commie gobbledyasiatic is part of his vocabulary.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He would use it against a non-free human being to highlight their lack of liberty.

  91. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best WoD endgame is the Etherite one.

  92. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m on team Blacklaw by the way.

  93. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally Plague of Gripes wtf

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He got sick of the constant skin walker attacks at his farm so he moved to England so he only has to fight off the far less threatening vampire attacks

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He got sick of the constant skin walker attacks at his farm so he moved to England so he only has to fight off the far less threatening vampire attacks

        Poor Eli left in search of cat girls and ended up babysitting an Arcanum instead.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don't know why this guy is so popular here.
          He uploads on youtube once a year and for the rest of the time all he does is stream art and darksouls.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He’s a lovable curmudgeon who is about the same age as some of us are. Plus he’s snarky and humble instead of up his own ass, which is refreshing.
            I personally try to avoid any and all parasociality, I always have a little place in my heart for the crotchety frick.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he's an old Cinemaphile drawgay and nostalgia is a hell of a drug

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sure is. Fuklaw lives.

  94. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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    Why is Big D like this?

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