>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SEND THE PESTILENCE AND PLAGUE INTO MY HOUSE, INTO MY BED, INTO MY STREAMS, INTO MY STREETS, INTO MY DRINK, INTO MY BREAD, UPON MY CATTLE, ON MY SHEEP, UPON MY OXEN IN MY FIELD, INTO MY DREAMS, INTO MY SLEEP UNTIL I BREAK UNTIL I YIELD
Yahweh was a god of war and this was his demonstration of strength over the Egyptian gods. Also this list isn't exactly correct since a lot of gods overlapped so plagues were probably directed to several different or the same gods at once >Hapi, nile god >plague: turning water to blood making the Nile unusable for life >Heket, fertility god has the head of a frog >plague: frogs >Geb, earth god >plague: All the dust throughout the land of Egypt became lice/gnats. >Khepri, life god, head of a scarab >plague: a swarm that killed people/animals, this is where the pharaoh "hardened his heart" >Hathor, love god associated with cattle imagery >plague: a plague that killed livestock >Isis, healing god >plague: boils >Set: storm/war god >plague: storms of fire and hail >Nut, sky god >plague: locusts from the sky >Ra, sun god >plague: three days of darkness >Pharaohs are believed to descend from the gods so... >plague: death of the first born
>Yahweh was a god of war.
Which one, Yah, or Weh? >Anon gives good examples for the plagues and what they mean.
Didn't learn that in church. Wish I did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is a secret we the israelites pass down. Christcucks aren't normally entitled to this based secret wisdom.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wasn't there a Rabbi that was visited by an angel, given the name of the Messiah, and on his death bed wrote down that Messiah's name - and he wrote Jesus?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then he got the wrong name because even Jesus wasn't called Jesus.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Evangelical meme
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yitzhak Kaduri was his name.
And more specifically, he wrote, ""he will raise the people and confirm that his word and law are standing," which in Hebrew makes an acrostic that reads YEHOSHUA. Jesus' Hebrew name would have been Yeshua, which is a variant of Yehoshua.
Some israelites have suggested that he meant a different Yehoshua, like Joshua, the son of Nun, or another Messianic claimant. But those are copes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
also a read possibility : he was a well respected rabbi within an ultra tiny ultra orthodox sect who bought his good luck charms. He was going through demensia, claimed to be 107 years old, and married a woman half his age who fell into his cult.
It doesn't matter what some old nut's scribblings are.
this reminds me of how at this point, Judaism wasn't even monotheistic. The 10 commandments weren't saying 'don't believe in other gods', they were 'I'm your god, and don't have any gods above me'.
Also, the egyptian priests were apparently able to replicate some of Moses' earlier miracles(like turning the nile into blood and animating a snake), and unlike the movie, it wasn't implied to be trickery.
also, later on, King Saul straight up summons the spirit of a dead prophet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It took a bit for Christianity to completely do away with the old gods
2 years ago
Anonymous
It took a bit for Christianity to get lame you mean
2 years ago
Anonymous
who/what were the old gods of christianity?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Canaanites were polytheistic and eventually encountered Zoroastrians who were Henotheistic. When the Henotheistic hierarchy was applied to the Canaanite pantheon Judaism began. YHWH was the Canaanite god of war and the desert which is why he is referred to as the Host of Hosts (accuratrely translated as General of Generals).
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, not so much. The Zoroastrians were indeed henotheistic, but so were the israelites of the time. The Persians had Zoroastrianism (which was heno, but also monotheistic, and full of Hindu concepts like dualism and re-encarnation) as the state religion, but didn't spread it at the point of a sword. They had religious freedom.
Judaism has no clear beginning. It was woven together from many traditions in phases. With the northern Arabic deity, Y-, the Canaanite diety El, and Babylonian practises, we'd see the torah and Second Temple era Judaism evolve between 560-400 BCE.
Y- and the associated Yahwist sect was originally either purely monotheistic, or had the dual worship of Y- and Asherah. No one's 100% sure of when Yahwism began, but we know it was existent before 750 BCE.
The polytheistic Elohist and the northern Canaanite diety known as El is the "host of hosts", with alot of extra-biblical data being found in the Ugaritic tablets. (In one he gets drunk and shits himself).
2 years ago
Anonymous
Islam was really the religion to do that as it is strictly a monotheistic religion. This is why Jesus, while considered an important prophet of god in Islam, isn't considered the son of God. Muslims find the whole holy Trinity sacrilegious as it implies god can exist as more than one entity.
The plague of frogs was doubly bad because frogs were seen as a sacred animal due to the relation with their fertility goddess, and I believe killing them was considered sacrilege.
I wonder if there is any examples of a deity of a not abrahamic religion in some way fighting other religion deities.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's plenty of theories about the Norse pantheon being the result of two clashing tribes/religions because the pantheon itself is made up of two different groups of Gods who joined together and intermarried after a war between them which the Aesir won, leaving Odin as the new leader of the Gods. You've got the Vanir that are most likely older and more basic fertility and nature gods such as Frey and Freya and then you've got the Aesir who are more warlike such as Tyr the god of war or Thor the giant-slayer, who are most likely the "newer" gods of a tribe that overtook the previous ones because their gods were way more kickass overall and Odin made for a better ruling God once the two cultures melded together.
Ishtar gradually absorbed the roles and responsibilities of other gods not just in her pantheon, but those in other wherever her cult spread. Interestingly, this was acknowledged by her followers through stories that explain how she either won or stole the position.
this reminds me of how at this point, Judaism wasn't even monotheistic. The 10 commandments weren't saying 'don't believe in other gods', they were 'I'm your god, and don't have any gods above me'.
Also, the egyptian priests were apparently able to replicate some of Moses' earlier miracles(like turning the nile into blood and animating a snake), and unlike the movie, it wasn't implied to be trickery.
also, later on, King Saul straight up summons the spirit of a dead prophet.
why the frick does Cinemaphile of all places have decent discussion on politics/religion?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's the 50/50 chance you always get with Prince of Egypt threads, it's been going on for years and years. Either it's a complete shitshow with really weak shitposts larping as religious and atheist just flinging shit at each other for hours on end, or you get genuine and civil discussion around the historicity of the bible/jews being slaves in Egypt and what the stories in the bible says about the religion at the time of writing that story. This thread isn't actually anywhere near as educating and full of civil discussion as some I've seen in the past.
Make a Prince of Egypt thread on Cinemaphile on the other hand and it's a 99.99% chance of just being shitposting and reeing about muh israelites.
2 years ago
Anonymous
To be fair that's every thread on Cinemaphile, not isolated to Prince of Egypt. Unless it's about Baneposting or simping for an actress.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>""""jews"""" being slaves
They're called Israelites anon. Israelites are enslaved by the egyptians and not just the israelites.
>tried to watch this cartoon TWICE while in theatres >first time my sister got sick so we had to leave >second time the actual fricking film burned >eventually watched it on DVD >6/10 at best
I was like 12, bro. All I can say is screen started to get brighter and brighter until eventually it was just pure white and we were being escorted out of the theater. Refunds were being handed out, my mother worked at the theater so I didn't have to worry about it, while others waited on a second showing for about 40 minutes.
FIlm projectors used an arc lamp that got very hot. So hot, in fact, that they had to be attached to cooling systems that vented out through the roof. Normally this isn't a problem, because the film is quickly moving past the opening where the light shines through, but if for some reason the film stops while the light is still on, it will melt within a few seconds. It could be that the projector seized up, or the film somehow got caught on something and couldn't be pulled any further.
t. projectionist (from back when those existed)
Khopeshes were changing from Bronze to Iron around the time of the New Kingdom, which was from the 6th to the 11th century BCE. Exodus was about the 13th century BCE, so his Khopesh should've been iron by then.
Bronze is generally much more expensive than iron. That's why the transition from the bronze age to the iron age was characterized by large increase in army sizes and a much wider availability of military weapons allowing the arming of entire migratory tribes.
Well, considering the Exodus was fictional, it could be bronze or iron. The biggest "this is a total line of BS" indicator about the exodus story is that the Pharoah is never named. The Assyrian, Babylonian, Judaite, and Israelite kings are all clearly named. The Pharoah is nameless. If this story had happened, that name would be PLASTERED over every fricking wall in the ancient meditaranian/levant/mesopotamian region. For these ex-slaves to beat the Pharaoh of the biggest empire on earth whole have been huge and the slaves would have been singing "our G-d killed Pharaoh X's soldiers on this date, in this reign of a different king, at this exact location."
It didn't happen. While the term "cities of Ramses" is used, the cities could have been named after one of the previous Pharaohs.
It took a bit for Christianity to completely do away with the old gods
Judaism was monotheistic by the time of the Elephantine Papyrii, ca 400 BCE. Christianity didn't eliminate polytheism, rather it embraced it by converting old Roman and Germanic holidays into Christian ones, and later turning those same dieties into regional saints (ei. voodoo lao)
yahweh's a dick yo
he literally makes the pharaoh say no to every request, just so he can pwn the egyptians and show what a badass he is. like wtf??
HaShem didn't. It could be more accurately read as :
"and G-d's word/message/presence made Pharoah's heart stubborn, because Pharaoh didn't want to hear it" as opposed to :
"and G_d rammed his hand up Pharaoh's buttocks like a muppet, shook him around a little, and did cry out in proxy "hey Moe, hey Moe, git back ta woyk. Make wit da bricks why don't ya?! Nyuk nyuk. I have spoken!"
Also fun fact : the three stooges actor Moe, Curly, and Shemp were all related, and all israeli. They grew up very poor, and as it is with poorer families, they tended to bank on a talented kid helping to get then out of crippling poverty. I think they were banking on Shemp, but anyway Moe (while still a kid mind you) tore the pages out of Shemp's books, flushed them down the comode. I don't know why. When his parents found out, Shemp, their Dad, and Curly proceeded to beat the living shit out of Moe as punishment.
Later in life, Columbia studios fricked them big time by denying them royalties for their work. They were financial crippled for life, and well as normal crippled.
The gags were normally safe, but accidents happened all the time. In one scene Moe stands on some crates, looks out a window, prat falls, slaps Curly. The fall went wrong. Moe essentially removed broke his rib cage internally, punctured a lung, and still slapped Curly.
Also, Moe's real name was Moyshe, the Yiddish version of the Hebrew Moshe, being the original form of the greek name - Moses.
Also fun fact : the three stooges actor Moe, Curly, and Shemp were all related, and all israeli. They grew up very poor, and as it is with poorer families, they tended to bank on a talented kid helping to get then out of crippling poverty. I think they were banking on Shemp, but anyway Moe (while still a kid mind you) tore the pages out of Shemp's books, flushed them down the comode. I don't know why. When his parents found out, Shemp, their Dad, and Curly proceeded to beat the living shit out of Moe as punishment.
Later in life, Columbia studios fricked them big time by denying them royalties for their work. They were financial crippled for life, and well as normal crippled.
The gags were normally safe, but accidents happened all the time. In one scene Moe stands on some crates, looks out a window, prat falls, slaps Curly. The fall went wrong. Moe essentially removed broke his rib cage internally, punctured a lung, and still slapped Curly.
Also, Moe's real name was Moyshe, the Yiddish version of the Hebrew Moshe, being the original form of the greek name - Moses.
>tried to watch this cartoon TWICE while in theatres >first time my sister got sick so we had to leave >second time the actual fricking film burned >eventually watched it on DVD >6/10 at best
Katzenberg and Spielberg founded Dreamworks Pictures in october 1994. Spielberg was in charge of the live action films (The Peacemaker, Saving Prívate Ryan, American Beauty, Gladiator) while Katzenberg was in charge of a traditional animation division at Glendale which made 2D films (Prince of Egypt, El Dorado, Spirit). Dreamworks also adquired a Bay Area computer animation studio named Pacific Data Images, which made computer generated films (Antz, Shrek, Madagascar)
around 2001, the Glendale division choses to abandon 2D and become a new computer animation division. Shark Tale was their first film (released in october 2004 for the 10th aniversary) and shortly after its release, they became a publicly traded company and started a distribution deal with Paramount (which lasted from 2005-2012)
>Antz and Shrek were made at Pacific Data Images in Bay Area, under supervision of PDI founder Carl Rosendahl >the 2D films like Prince of Egypt and El Dorado were made in-house at Dreamworks in L.A, under supervision of Katzenberg
personally, i think PDI and Rosendahl made the better films
A SINGLE THREAD IN A BLUE BOARD
THOUGH ITS SHITPOSTS BRIGHTLY SHINE
CAN NEVER SEE ITS PURPOSE
IN THE PATTERN OF "THE PLAN"'S DESIGN
AND THE MOD THAT SITS ON THE VERY TOP
OF THE Cinemaphile'S MIGHTY FACE
DOES HE THINK HE'S MORE IMPORTANT
THAN THE JANNIES AT THE BASE?
SO HOW CAN YOU SEE WHAT YOUR POST IS WORTH
OR WHERE YOUR FETISH LIES
YOU CAN NEVER SEE THROUGH THE EYES OF MAN
YOU MUST LOOK AT YOUR LIFE
LOOK AT YOUR LIFE THROUGH JANNY'S EYES
>Prince of Egypt : Steve Hickner, Brenda Chapman, Simon Wells >El Dorado : Bibo Bergeron, Don Paul >Spirit : Kelly Asbury, Lorna Cook >Sinbad : Patrick Gilmore, Tim Johnson >Shark Tale : Bibo Bergeron, Vicky Jenson, Rob Letterman
directors of every animation film made by the Glendale division before going public. They were assembled in 1995 and went public in late 2004
>Prince of Egypt, El Dorado, Spirit, Sinbad >Anastasia, Titan AE
glad that Dreamworks switched to CG and that Fox Animation Studios died. Not a fan of their animation style or their writing
i do feel sorry that Disney abandoned 2D, because they were releasing better films than the competition (Tarzan, Fantasía 2000, Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Lilo & Stitch, Treasure Planet) It wasn't until the very end when they began releasing 2D mediocrity (Brother Bear and Home on the Range) but they could've easily rebounded from that
why do people mourn Dreamworks' 2D films? The 2D animation quality got worse with each film and the amount of CG got bigger. Katzenberg even coined the term "tradigital" to describe Spirit and Sinbad's 2D/CG animation
"HP News -HP Helps DreamWorks Create "Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron"" https://www.hp.com/us-en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=302348#.YqKbMKA8GyU
>why do the gods torment me with such reckless, destructive, blasphemous sons? >father, hear what i... >be still. Pharaoh speaks... I seek to build an empire, and your only thought is to amuse yourselves by tearing it down. Have i taught you nothing? >you musn't be so hard on yourself, your majesty. You're an excellent teacher >it's not your fault your sons learned nothing >well, they learned blasphemy >true >father, the fault is mine. I goaded Rameses on, and so i am responsible >hmm. Responsible. And do you know the meaning of that word, Rameses? >i understand, father >and do you understand the task of which your birth has destined you? The ancient traditions. When i pass into the next world, then you will be the morning and evening star >one damaged temple does not destroy centuries of tradition >but one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty! .... You have my leave to go >father... >father. You know it was really my fault. Must you be so hard on him? >Moses, you will never have to carry a burden like the crown i will pass to Rameses. He must not allow himself to be led astray, not even by you, my son >all he cares about is... is your approval. I know he will live up to your expectations. He only needs the opportunity >maybe. Maybe so. Go now. I shall see you both tonight
the dialogue is fine, but it does get tedious as the film goes along
>well, that went well >just go away >could have been worse >"the weak link in the chain" That's what he called me >well, you are rather pathetic >irresponsable, ignorant of the traditions. He practically accused me of bringing down the dynasty >yeah, i can see it now. There go the pyramids! >you can laugh about it >statues cracking and toppling over. The nile drying up. Single-handedly, You will manage to bring the greatest kingdom on earth to ruin >tell me this, Moses. Tell me this. Why is it that every time you start something, i'm the one who ends up in trouble? >(Moses pulls a prank on the priests and goads Rameses to do it too, thus cheering him up) >hey, i figured it out. You know what your problem is, Rameses? >what? >you care too much >(playfully) and your problem is, you don't care at all >oh, in that case, i suppose you care a lot more than i do that we're late for the banquet, for example >i'm done for. Father will kill me >don't worry. Nobody will even notice us coming here >(everyone, including Seti, is there) >nobody will even notice?
why couldn't there be more Moses-Rameses interactions like this? I think the film starts great, yet goes downhill after Moses finds out his hebrew origins and runs away, because he loses his personality (he is dull as an adult) and because the most compelling aspect of the film (Moses and Ramses' friendship) is permanently gone
>Shrek lasts 83 mins without credits >between the 25:30 mark and the 75 mark (49 mins and a half), the only characters that say a word are Shrek, Donkey, Fiona, Farquaad, Robin Hood and Merry Men
that was the appeal of the original Shrek. No other Dreamworks film has it
Always remember Jacob from the line of Abraham has picked Joseph to be the chosen son, thus all those under the line of Joseph are the chosen people and not those under the line of Judah, the one who has sold Joseph to the Egyptian to a life of slavery.
Semitic/semites = Descendents of Shem
Anti-Semitic = Anti-shem, meaning against the descendants of Shem
Shem = An ancient man who has fathered many kings of ancient nations like Babylon, Assyria and Persia
Babylonians = semites
Assyrians = semites
Persian = semites
Hebrew = semites
Israelites = semites
Palestinians = semites
Jews = semites
Anti-semite = Against the semetic people of the middle east, including the israelites.
Anti-israeli = Against the israeli people and those who follow it.
Antz is the best of the pre Shrek films. Much better writing than either Prince of Egypt and El Dorado. Not as derivative of Disney as those films either. Before Shrek came out, Antz was the only indication that Dreamworks Pictures could release great and consistently entertaining animation films
A SON OF A PROUD HISTORY THAT'S SHOWN
>I SEND A PESTILENCE AND PLAGUE
>INTO YOUR HOUSE, INTO YOUR BED
INTO YOUR DREAMS
INTO YOUR SLEEP
UNTIL YOU BREAK
UNTIL YOU YIELD
INTO YOUR DICK, INTO YOUR ASS
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SEND THE PESTILENCE AND PLAGUE INTO MY HOUSE, INTO MY BED, INTO MY STREAMS, INTO MY STREETS, INTO MY DRINK, INTO MY BREAD, UPON MY CATTLE, ON MY SHEEP, UPON MY OXEN IN MY FIELD, INTO MY DREAMS, INTO MY SLEEP UNTIL I BREAK UNTIL I YIELD
Kek
>God hardened pharaoh's heart
Uh, he gave him heart disease??
It was time to make an example
The Plauges were mostly symbolically dunking on the Egyptian Pantheon
How?
Yahweh was a god of war and this was his demonstration of strength over the Egyptian gods. Also this list isn't exactly correct since a lot of gods overlapped so plagues were probably directed to several different or the same gods at once
>Hapi, nile god
>plague: turning water to blood making the Nile unusable for life
>Heket, fertility god has the head of a frog
>plague: frogs
>Geb, earth god
>plague: All the dust throughout the land of Egypt became lice/gnats.
>Khepri, life god, head of a scarab
>plague: a swarm that killed people/animals, this is where the pharaoh "hardened his heart"
>Hathor, love god associated with cattle imagery
>plague: a plague that killed livestock
>Isis, healing god
>plague: boils
>Set: storm/war god
>plague: storms of fire and hail
>Nut, sky god
>plague: locusts from the sky
>Ra, sun god
>plague: three days of darkness
>Pharaohs are believed to descend from the gods so...
>plague: death of the first born
>Yahweh was a god of war.
Which one, Yah, or Weh?
>Anon gives good examples for the plagues and what they mean.
Didn't learn that in church. Wish I did.
It is a secret we the israelites pass down. Christcucks aren't normally entitled to this based secret wisdom.
Wasn't there a Rabbi that was visited by an angel, given the name of the Messiah, and on his death bed wrote down that Messiah's name - and he wrote Jesus?
Then he got the wrong name because even Jesus wasn't called Jesus.
Evangelical meme
Yitzhak Kaduri was his name.
And more specifically, he wrote, ""he will raise the people and confirm that his word and law are standing," which in Hebrew makes an acrostic that reads YEHOSHUA. Jesus' Hebrew name would have been Yeshua, which is a variant of Yehoshua.
Some israelites have suggested that he meant a different Yehoshua, like Joshua, the son of Nun, or another Messianic claimant. But those are copes.
also a read possibility : he was a well respected rabbi within an ultra tiny ultra orthodox sect who bought his good luck charms. He was going through demensia, claimed to be 107 years old, and married a woman half his age who fell into his cult.
It doesn't matter what some old nut's scribblings are.
this reminds me of how at this point, Judaism wasn't even monotheistic. The 10 commandments weren't saying 'don't believe in other gods', they were 'I'm your god, and don't have any gods above me'.
Also, the egyptian priests were apparently able to replicate some of Moses' earlier miracles(like turning the nile into blood and animating a snake), and unlike the movie, it wasn't implied to be trickery.
also, later on, King Saul straight up summons the spirit of a dead prophet.
It took a bit for Christianity to completely do away with the old gods
It took a bit for Christianity to get lame you mean
who/what were the old gods of christianity?
The Canaanites were polytheistic and eventually encountered Zoroastrians who were Henotheistic. When the Henotheistic hierarchy was applied to the Canaanite pantheon Judaism began. YHWH was the Canaanite god of war and the desert which is why he is referred to as the Host of Hosts (accuratrely translated as General of Generals).
Well, not so much. The Zoroastrians were indeed henotheistic, but so were the israelites of the time. The Persians had Zoroastrianism (which was heno, but also monotheistic, and full of Hindu concepts like dualism and re-encarnation) as the state religion, but didn't spread it at the point of a sword. They had religious freedom.
Judaism has no clear beginning. It was woven together from many traditions in phases. With the northern Arabic deity, Y-, the Canaanite diety El, and Babylonian practises, we'd see the torah and Second Temple era Judaism evolve between 560-400 BCE.
Y- and the associated Yahwist sect was originally either purely monotheistic, or had the dual worship of Y- and Asherah. No one's 100% sure of when Yahwism began, but we know it was existent before 750 BCE.
The polytheistic Elohist and the northern Canaanite diety known as El is the "host of hosts", with alot of extra-biblical data being found in the Ugaritic tablets. (In one he gets drunk and shits himself).
Islam was really the religion to do that as it is strictly a monotheistic religion. This is why Jesus, while considered an important prophet of god in Islam, isn't considered the son of God. Muslims find the whole holy Trinity sacrilegious as it implies god can exist as more than one entity.
The plague of frogs was doubly bad because frogs were seen as a sacred animal due to the relation with their fertility goddess, and I believe killing them was considered sacrilege.
I wonder if there is any examples of a deity of a not abrahamic religion in some way fighting other religion deities.
There's plenty of theories about the Norse pantheon being the result of two clashing tribes/religions because the pantheon itself is made up of two different groups of Gods who joined together and intermarried after a war between them which the Aesir won, leaving Odin as the new leader of the Gods. You've got the Vanir that are most likely older and more basic fertility and nature gods such as Frey and Freya and then you've got the Aesir who are more warlike such as Tyr the god of war or Thor the giant-slayer, who are most likely the "newer" gods of a tribe that overtook the previous ones because their gods were way more kickass overall and Odin made for a better ruling God once the two cultures melded together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86sir%E2%80%93Vanir_War
Ishtar gradually absorbed the roles and responsibilities of other gods not just in her pantheon, but those in other wherever her cult spread. Interestingly, this was acknowledged by her followers through stories that explain how she either won or stole the position.
why the frick does Cinemaphile of all places have decent discussion on politics/religion?
It's the 50/50 chance you always get with Prince of Egypt threads, it's been going on for years and years. Either it's a complete shitshow with really weak shitposts larping as religious and atheist just flinging shit at each other for hours on end, or you get genuine and civil discussion around the historicity of the bible/jews being slaves in Egypt and what the stories in the bible says about the religion at the time of writing that story. This thread isn't actually anywhere near as educating and full of civil discussion as some I've seen in the past.
Make a Prince of Egypt thread on Cinemaphile on the other hand and it's a 99.99% chance of just being shitposting and reeing about muh israelites.
To be fair that's every thread on Cinemaphile, not isolated to Prince of Egypt. Unless it's about Baneposting or simping for an actress.
>""""jews"""" being slaves
They're called Israelites anon. Israelites are enslaved by the egyptians and not just the israelites.
I think one translation also writes it as his heart becoming heavy. Entrance to Egyptian afterlife required your heart being lighter than a feather.
>>God hardened pharaoh's heart
Any Christgays ITT wanna explain to me why God would do this?
A misunderstanding. Moses summoned plagues but Moses was supposed to summon plaque, Heart plaque to be precise. So, God had to fix this little snafu.
It more accurately translates to : "God even existing in this situation pissed Pharaoh off" and not "God told Pharaoh to make life hard."
Frick that other post this is the real gem
>tried to watch this cartoon TWICE while in theatres
>first time my sister got sick so we had to leave
>second time the actual fricking film burned
>eventually watched it on DVD
>6/10 at best
>second time the actual fricking film burned
You are providing an explanation right?
I was like 12, bro. All I can say is screen started to get brighter and brighter until eventually it was just pure white and we were being escorted out of the theater. Refunds were being handed out, my mother worked at the theater so I didn't have to worry about it, while others waited on a second showing for about 40 minutes.
FIlm projectors used an arc lamp that got very hot. So hot, in fact, that they had to be attached to cooling systems that vented out through the roof. Normally this isn't a problem, because the film is quickly moving past the opening where the light shines through, but if for some reason the film stops while the light is still on, it will melt within a few seconds. It could be that the projector seized up, or the film somehow got caught on something and couldn't be pulled any further.
t. projectionist (from back when those existed)
>incense
or
>alabaster stone
Shouldn't that khopesh be bronze?
Khopeshes were changing from Bronze to Iron around the time of the New Kingdom, which was from the 6th to the 11th century BCE. Exodus was about the 13th century BCE, so his Khopesh should've been iron by then.
But 13th century bc is earlier than 11th century bc?
Shut up
Oh, my mistake. I got them confused.
I suppose that royalty would be able to have Iron Khopeshes, but yeah.
That should be bronze.
>co attempts into history
I like History Cinemaphilemrad, I never said I was good at it.
Bronze Khopesh are for the poors. The Pharoah and his house wield blades of iron.
Bronze is generally much more expensive than iron. That's why the transition from the bronze age to the iron age was characterized by large increase in army sizes and a much wider availability of military weapons allowing the arming of entire migratory tribes.
Well, considering the Exodus was fictional, it could be bronze or iron. The biggest "this is a total line of BS" indicator about the exodus story is that the Pharoah is never named. The Assyrian, Babylonian, Judaite, and Israelite kings are all clearly named. The Pharoah is nameless. If this story had happened, that name would be PLASTERED over every fricking wall in the ancient meditaranian/levant/mesopotamian region. For these ex-slaves to beat the Pharaoh of the biggest empire on earth whole have been huge and the slaves would have been singing "our G-d killed Pharaoh X's soldiers on this date, in this reign of a different king, at this exact location."
It didn't happen. While the term "cities of Ramses" is used, the cities could have been named after one of the previous Pharaohs.
Judaism was monotheistic by the time of the Elephantine Papyrii, ca 400 BCE. Christianity didn't eliminate polytheism, rather it embraced it by converting old Roman and Germanic holidays into Christian ones, and later turning those same dieties into regional saints (ei. voodoo lao)
HaShem didn't. It could be more accurately read as :
"and G-d's word/message/presence made Pharoah's heart stubborn, because Pharaoh didn't want to hear it" as opposed to :
"and G_d rammed his hand up Pharaoh's buttocks like a muppet, shook him around a little, and did cry out in proxy "hey Moe, hey Moe, git back ta woyk. Make wit da bricks why don't ya?! Nyuk nyuk. I have spoken!"
Also fun fact : the three stooges actor Moe, Curly, and Shemp were all related, and all israeli. They grew up very poor, and as it is with poorer families, they tended to bank on a talented kid helping to get then out of crippling poverty. I think they were banking on Shemp, but anyway Moe (while still a kid mind you) tore the pages out of Shemp's books, flushed them down the comode. I don't know why. When his parents found out, Shemp, their Dad, and Curly proceeded to beat the living shit out of Moe as punishment.
Later in life, Columbia studios fricked them big time by denying them royalties for their work. They were financial crippled for life, and well as normal crippled.
The gags were normally safe, but accidents happened all the time. In one scene Moe stands on some crates, looks out a window, prat falls, slaps Curly. The fall went wrong. Moe essentially removed broke his rib cage internally, punctured a lung, and still slapped Curly.
Also, Moe's real name was Moyshe, the Yiddish version of the Hebrew Moshe, being the original form of the greek name - Moses.
> resident israelite
wtf are you on ?
Black person
Black person
Well I didn't vote for you.
Prince of Egypt is just okay
I hope you get playing with the big boys stuck in your head forever.
The plagues is catchier.
Shit luck m8
Frick off
replying,
frick you leave her alone
I will hear no more of this Hebrew nonsense.
Evil, barbaric heathen.
based aryanman decapitating a mason whose drug crazed murderspree had the goal of compromizing the royal lineage with his troony furry blood
yahweh's a dick yo
he literally makes the pharaoh say no to every request, just so he can pwn the egyptians and show what a badass he is. like wtf??
Black person
Antz is better. Screenplay and storytelling are higher quality
thus said the lord
ok shinso
>:(
Damn
>Tzipporah, Miriam, Aaron, Hotep, Huy, Seti, Queen, Jethro
Moses and Ramses (mostly the latter) were the only interesting characters
Miriam looked like the JLo character from Antz
Miriam was cute.
hebrew nonsense
Enough. I will hear no more of this shitpost nonsense
not a fan of Moses' design. Too Dreamworksy
needs dreamwork's face, you know the one
ONCE I CALLED YOU BROTHER
Ok
Katzenberg and Spielberg founded Dreamworks Pictures in october 1994. Spielberg was in charge of the live action films (The Peacemaker, Saving Prívate Ryan, American Beauty, Gladiator) while Katzenberg was in charge of a traditional animation division at Glendale which made 2D films (Prince of Egypt, El Dorado, Spirit). Dreamworks also adquired a Bay Area computer animation studio named Pacific Data Images, which made computer generated films (Antz, Shrek, Madagascar)
around 2001, the Glendale division choses to abandon 2D and become a new computer animation division. Shark Tale was their first film (released in october 2004 for the 10th aniversary) and shortly after its release, they became a publicly traded company and started a distribution deal with Paramount (which lasted from 2005-2012)
motherfricker
something about this style of character design doesn't click with me
the Disney Renaissance style was generic, but at least it was easy on the eyes
They all look like goats, somehow.
No forehead. Basically a onehead.
It's the long cheekbones.
homie got a skull like sid the sloth
israeli BLASPHEMY
despite the talent behind it, i found Prince of Egypt to be an uninspiring, ponderous, lethargic, overwrought and joyless movie
>no, you don't understand! I'm your sister!
>what insolence, now bend over, slave! You're my concubine now!
Imagine...
between this scene and Moses deliberately getting Tzipporah wet in front of the crowd, he lost sympathy points with me
WHEN ALL YOU'VE GOT IS NOTHING
THERE'S A LOT TO GO AROUND!
No, you're a Canaanite/Hyskos.
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epic
dudes you're singing the lyrics to it
My mom is already gone
Nig
>Antz and Shrek were made at Pacific Data Images in Bay Area, under supervision of PDI founder Carl Rosendahl
>the 2D films like Prince of Egypt and El Dorado were made in-house at Dreamworks in L.A, under supervision of Katzenberg
personally, i think PDI and Rosendahl made the better films
october 1998 article. Antz was on theaters and PDI/Rosendahl were now working on Shrek
Fricker
Fricking love that movie
>I SEND MY SCOURGE
>I SEND MY SWORD
>THUS SENDETH REPORT
Thus said the lord
Lamb blood
I love my mom
frick you
YOU'RE PLAYING WITH THE BIG BOYS NOW
Fine c**t
prostitute of Babylon
Frick you
A SINGLE THREAD IN A BLUE BOARD
THOUGH ITS SHITPOSTS BRIGHTLY SHINE
CAN NEVER SEE ITS PURPOSE
IN THE PATTERN OF "THE PLAN"'S DESIGN
AND THE MOD THAT SITS ON THE VERY TOP
OF THE Cinemaphile'S MIGHTY FACE
DOES HE THINK HE'S MORE IMPORTANT
THAN THE JANNIES AT THE BASE?
SO HOW CAN YOU SEE WHAT YOUR POST IS WORTH
OR WHERE YOUR FETISH LIES
YOU CAN NEVER SEE THROUGH THE EYES OF MAN
YOU MUST LOOK AT YOUR LIFE
LOOK AT YOUR LIFE THROUGH JANNY'S EYES
get cancer and die
>Prince of Egypt : Steve Hickner, Brenda Chapman, Simon Wells
>El Dorado : Bibo Bergeron, Don Paul
>Spirit : Kelly Asbury, Lorna Cook
>Sinbad : Patrick Gilmore, Tim Johnson
>Shark Tale : Bibo Bergeron, Vicky Jenson, Rob Letterman
directors of every animation film made by the Glendale division before going public. They were assembled in 1995 and went public in late 2004
Eat shit
>Prince of Egypt, El Dorado, Spirit, Sinbad
>Anastasia, Titan AE
glad that Dreamworks switched to CG and that Fox Animation Studios died. Not a fan of their animation style or their writing
i do feel sorry that Disney abandoned 2D, because they were releasing better films than the competition (Tarzan, Fantasía 2000, Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Lilo & Stitch, Treasure Planet) It wasn't until the very end when they began releasing 2D mediocrity (Brother Bear and Home on the Range) but they could've easily rebounded from that
why do people mourn Dreamworks' 2D films? The 2D animation quality got worse with each film and the amount of CG got bigger. Katzenberg even coined the term "tradigital" to describe Spirit and Sinbad's 2D/CG animation
"HP News -HP Helps DreamWorks Create "Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron"" https://www.hp.com/us-en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=302348#.YqKbMKA8GyU
you will never be a robot
I WAGER THE HEBREWS ARE AT FAULT FOR THIS
my hearts gonna harden
well played
Black person, thus said the lord
Hey......
>why do the gods torment me with such reckless, destructive, blasphemous sons?
>father, hear what i...
>be still. Pharaoh speaks... I seek to build an empire, and your only thought is to amuse yourselves by tearing it down. Have i taught you nothing?
>you musn't be so hard on yourself, your majesty. You're an excellent teacher
>it's not your fault your sons learned nothing
>well, they learned blasphemy
>true
>father, the fault is mine. I goaded Rameses on, and so i am responsible
>hmm. Responsible. And do you know the meaning of that word, Rameses?
>i understand, father
>and do you understand the task of which your birth has destined you? The ancient traditions. When i pass into the next world, then you will be the morning and evening star
>one damaged temple does not destroy centuries of tradition
>but one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty! .... You have my leave to go
>father...
>father. You know it was really my fault. Must you be so hard on him?
>Moses, you will never have to carry a burden like the crown i will pass to Rameses. He must not allow himself to be led astray, not even by you, my son
>all he cares about is... is your approval. I know he will live up to your expectations. He only needs the opportunity
>maybe. Maybe so. Go now. I shall see you both tonight
the dialogue is fine, but it does get tedious as the film goes along
Bitch
What
Yeah yeah, and I am the Perfect Man.
>well, that went well
>just go away
>could have been worse
>"the weak link in the chain" That's what he called me
>well, you are rather pathetic
>irresponsable, ignorant of the traditions. He practically accused me of bringing down the dynasty
>yeah, i can see it now. There go the pyramids!
>you can laugh about it
>statues cracking and toppling over. The nile drying up. Single-handedly, You will manage to bring the greatest kingdom on earth to ruin
>tell me this, Moses. Tell me this. Why is it that every time you start something, i'm the one who ends up in trouble?
>(Moses pulls a prank on the priests and goads Rameses to do it too, thus cheering him up)
>hey, i figured it out. You know what your problem is, Rameses?
>what?
>you care too much
>(playfully) and your problem is, you don't care at all
>oh, in that case, i suppose you care a lot more than i do that we're late for the banquet, for example
>i'm done for. Father will kill me
>don't worry. Nobody will even notice us coming here
>(everyone, including Seti, is there)
>nobody will even notice?
why couldn't there be more Moses-Rameses interactions like this? I think the film starts great, yet goes downhill after Moses finds out his hebrew origins and runs away, because he loses his personality (he is dull as an adult) and because the most compelling aspect of the film (Moses and Ramses' friendship) is permanently gone
THERE GO THE PYRAMIDS!!!
Sinbad should've been scrapped. Just have Spirit be the last 2D film and then focus on the CG debut film
Bill Damaschke became the 2D division's head of creative production in 1999, as El Dorado was wrapping up. He then produced their CG debut
Cheeky c**t
WHY
I SEND A LOCUST ON YOUR (YOU)'S SUCH AS THIS SITE HAS NEVER SEEN. ON EVERY TRIP, ON EVERY DUB, UNTIL THE JANNIE DOES HIS JOB FOR FREE
POST
No.
The Edomites have gone too far this time.
>Shrek lasts 83 mins without credits
>between the 25:30 mark and the 75 mark (49 mins and a half), the only characters that say a word are Shrek, Donkey, Fiona, Farquaad, Robin Hood and Merry Men
that was the appeal of the original Shrek. No other Dreamworks film has it
Eeep
the music is so fricking good
Frick off
You earned it.
Well I'm a sovereign citizen and as a free person I do not recognize your jurisdictional authority.
Always remember Jacob from the line of Abraham has picked Joseph to be the chosen son, thus all those under the line of Joseph are the chosen people and not those under the line of Judah, the one who has sold Joseph to the Egyptian to a life of slavery.
Semitic/semites = Descendents of Shem
Anti-Semitic = Anti-shem, meaning against the descendants of Shem
Shem = An ancient man who has fathered many kings of ancient nations like Babylon, Assyria and Persia
Babylonians = semites
Assyrians = semites
Persian = semites
Hebrew = semites
Israelites = semites
Palestinians = semites
Jews = semites
Anti-semite = Against the semetic people of the middle east, including the israelites.
Anti-israeli = Against the israeli people and those who follow it.
sheesh
She just died from cancer you stupid reddit b***h! Replying to this earlier didn't helpt at all!
FOR I SHALL BELIEVE IN HIS WONDERS
BY THE POWER OF RA
It's wonderful how easy it still is to spot shaktalegay in a thread
I really really want that incense.
i really think they screwed up with this design. It isn't appealing to look at. The second half suffers as a result
Antz is the best of the pre Shrek films. Much better writing than either Prince of Egypt and El Dorado. Not as derivative of Disney as those films either. Before Shrek came out, Antz was the only indication that Dreamworks Pictures could release great and consistently entertaining animation films
those guards in the "Moses helps Tzipporah get away" moment didn't look intimidating or imposing, so the moment falls flat
Keep trying