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The entire movie is a relatively shallow statement about treatment of animals. Those who tried to abuse animals for personal gain were punished (those who worked with gordy were killed while the kid who we can assume was kind to gordy was spared) and this is mirrored with the UFO creature. Those who attempted to use it for gain without treating it with respect suffered the consequences. The main character is supposed to be viewed as morally good as he treats his horses with respect and kindness.
to add to this, being shallow isn't bad. It was a creature feature first and foremost.
Wot
Gordy treated bad. People use gordy to make money but loud noise (balloon popping) make him kill people. Kid nice to monkey and not killed.
Alien treated bad. People use Alien to make money but loud noise (blasting stereos and dinner bell) make it kill people. Man respect alien and not killed.
Did I spell it out for you enough?
but who was phone?
Wot
Mean + Monkey = Bad
Mean + Alien = bad
Respect + Monkey = good
Respect + Alien = good
Wot
Alien = Chimp
>Mean + Monkey = Mean + Alien
>Monkey = Alien
> Kid nice to monkey and not killed.
The money didn’t kill the kid because the kid didn’t look at him. The kid was fixated on the floating shoe.
Masterclass writing.
why was it floating?
I think the tablecloth played into why he wasn't killed by the monkey. he thought he had a connection with the monkey just like he thought he had a connection with monster. But he didn't, and it got him and a bunch of other people eaten. idk what the shoe thing is. Someone said that it was commentary on the randomness of the world but idk that seems kinda gay.
I feel like it was a bit of both.
wrong, the movie was about white people bad.
It's really not, anon
Black people identify with the chimp
Okay now that's funny
>The main character is supposed to be viewed as morally good as he treats his horses with respect and kindness.
Isn't he mentally moronic though? He just looks at his feet and mumbles incomprehensibly throughout the entire movie.
A little bit yeah. Someone being able to connect with animals more than people is pretty common in movies like this. Think of the dog guy from John Carpenter's The Thing.
Yeah and The Thing would suck if the main character was the dog guy
Because the story wasn't written around him. Come on dude.
If you wrote the story around the dog guy it would suck, you fricking miserable moron. That's why this movie is mediocre at best, you don't write a monster movie around an autist as the protagonist. The only memorable part of this movie is the body horror ending.
There’s no body horror in Nope.
Then whatever you want to call being digested alive by an alien you pedantic moron. That's classic body horror but I guess because it was psychological rather than some CGI man melting you're going to sperg out
This homie stopped watching after Jupe's festival went to shit.
Sorry meant to say Black person, damn autocorrect
Can’t really blame in, in retrospect…
That’s not what body horror means. Not meaning to pull your strings, but you’re the tard, not us.
>Body horror or biological horror is a subgenre of horror that intentionally showcases grotesque or psychologically disturbing violations of the human body.
It's literally body horror you're just a pedantic midwit akshully guy
By that definition, any movie where a character is killed has body horror. Think with your brain dipshit.
>any movie where a character is killed has body horror
Yes.
what if they're killed without it affecting their body in any way? checkmate, ya frickin noob.
>being digested alive is on the same level as being shot
Maybe you should stop trying to think, you midwit, because it doesn't seem to add up to much
>DURRRR DID U JUST CALL ME OUT FOR BEING WRONG DURRRR
You called us pedantic morons. You owe us an apology.
I owe you nothing because I was right to call you a pedantic moron because I was right on all accounts. Get out of my thread. Pathetic.
I don't think dying is in itself body horror, I think it is entirely dependent on how you die
>I don't think dying is in itself body horror,
My point is that the definition of body horror that was used is inadequate and broad.
I think it gets the point of the genre across pretty nicely. Getting slowly eaten alive by an alien is clearly body horror. It's clearly in a completely different category than getting shot. You're just taking issue with it because you're a pedant who's more interested in having an argument than a conversation.
No, body horror is like an arm coming out of your own butthole. Or monkeypox. Or the High School Musical guy’s recent plastic surgery.
>body horror isn't your example of body horror it's my example of body horror
Being eaten alive is body horror by any definition of body horror you can come up with. You're only making yourself look moronic.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BodyHorror
>tv tropes
>Cinemaphile copes
Wow, that is…friggin good.
It's an interesting distinction from other definitions, and seems to more closely focus on movies that can be called Body Horror on their face, rather than having a moment or two in them. It doesn't stop tropers from trying to claim the MCU has body horror.
Wikipedia (yes, I know) has Nope included on a Body Horror Media list which is more expansive , including obvious ones that TV Tropes missed like The Blob, but even this is still missing out on the one movie that most closely resembles the topic at hand: Deep Rising.
The depiction of liquefaction caused by the monster's digestive system in Deep Rising is a body horror moment on par with commonly pointed to movies like Cabin Fever. The script goes a step further and wanted to depict victims being kept alive by the monster in a sort of meat locker, melted to the point of helplessness but still able to feebly cry out for help. That's pretty close to what happens in Nope.
The first sentence of your troony website literally describes what happens at the end of Nope
>Tags: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SwallowedWhole, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VacuumMouth
Classic tvtropes
Being eaten alive is not body horror. Body horror is like the Stephen King story where the guy shipwrecked on an island slowly cooks himself. Or Boxing Helena. Stop quadrupling down or you’ll get…
Down Syndrome.
>being eaten alive isn't body horror, being eaten alive is
What did he mean by this?
You're a dumb homosexual. Apply yourself.
NO
You doubled down again…
DID U JUST CALL ME OUT FOR BEING WRONG DURRRR
And it would be tripling down you drooling moron, you can't even insult me correctly
You still haven’t apologized.
>Every kill ever shown is a grotesque, psychologically disturbing violation of the human body
Try not being disingenuous. The Blob is considered body horror, it's the same shit.
Is getting killed not a disturbing violation of the human body? I would be disturbed if I was killed but idk maybe thats just me.
In a vacuum, yes any kill can meet that standard.
But the term is a subgenre, a categorization of horror, which means it exists in contrast to other media and their own depictions of death. Body horror needs to be especially grotesque and violating, typically in a manner beyond what a normal human or animal would do to kill someone, and it often extends beyond death, to states of life that are extremely uncomfortable to think about.
Horror on its own is already the categorization of any disturbing death or psychological terror, so the body qualifier must extend that to create its own identity, otherwise it's a useless term.
Did you just fricking double down on your own bullshit?
body horror means stuff like the ending of Men, not a few confusing shots of being stuck inside a cramped biological tunnel.
>the body horror ending.
what are you referring to?
No, he's just shy compared to his showboat sister and father. It represents him coming up in a showbusiness related family business which might not be something he would have chosen himself.
The frick? He isn't moronic. He just doesn't talk very much. How the hell does Cinemaphile manage to be so wildly off base?
90% of the time, autism
He’s basically Bubba from Forest Gump with a fraction of the personality. Until he magically diagnoses that looking at the monster leads to death. Reminds me of that comic book where they think circles of salt will keep the zombies away…
>Until he magically diagnoses that looking at the monster leads to death
OH MY FRICKING GOD YOU FRICKING moronS ARE INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING A SINGLE PIECE OF FRICKING FICTION. THE ENTIRE POINT IS THAT THE ALIEN IS SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER ANIMAL. HE FOCUSES ON LOOKING AT THE ALIEN BECAUSE ITS THE EXACT SAME FRICKING THING WITH ANY OTHER ANIMAL YOU WORK WITH. DID YOU NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE DOZENS OF TIMES THEY FOCUS ON THE REFLECTIVE TOOL HE USES TO CALM THE HORSES? YOU ALL NEED TO FRICKING have a nice day OR IMMEDIATELY LEARN TO COMPREHEND FICTON. NONE OF YOU ARE COMPETENT AS VIEWERS AND SHOULD STICK TO THE FRICKING MICHAEL BAY MOVIES OH MY GOD.
don't worry Peele, it's easily going to break even.
There is no predator in the universe that decides to eat you solely based on you looking at it. That and the shoe are the most hamfisted story elements in modern horror film since Lady in the Water.
>There is no predator in the universe that decides to eat you solely based on you looking at it.
Maybe not eat you, but looking some predators dead in the eye is absolutely a means of pissing it off and making it was to rip you to shreds.
A lot of predators decide what is prey based on what runs from them. Eye contact is more about dominance.
I feel like they could have done more to justify them thinking of the alien as territorial and as such give more validity to the whole "you have to avoid looking at it directly because it would treat it as a challenge and attack you" thing. They just kind of assume it is and we just kind of have to take their word for it.
I thought he was moronic. Or more likely. Just bad at acting. Keegan would have been a better choice. Keegan needs a job, Jordan!
Yeah he’s autistic as frick and as a result doesn’t try to make a spectacle to get people’s attention.
No
>Those who worked with gordy were killed while the kid who we can assume was kind to gordy was spared
The kid was spared because he never made eye contact with the psycho chimp. Instead of looking at the situation correctly and owing it to dumb luck, he decided to be moronic and thought it was because he had some bond with the thing. That idiotic idea made him think that he could take Jean Jacket, which got him and a bunch of other people killed.
Frickin moron take
>this is mirrored with the UFO creature. Those who attempted to use it for gain without treating it with respect suffered the consequences
the UFO creature was going around eating people, it deserved to be put down, not respected.
>The entire movie is a relatively shallow statement about treatment of animals.
>animals weren't credited
completely missed the point, don’t post again
I don't think it was that grandiose. It'd say it's more about the hubris and/or ignorance of people who don't show proper diligence when dealing with a wild animal and respects them not in some "every living being is beautiful" kind of way but more "this thing could easily end my life in an instant if it wanted to so I don't want to piss it off and give it reason to".
Peele literally spells it out at the beginning of the movie with the bible verse “And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and make thee vile, and will set thee as a spectacle.” The movie was actively punishing the "spectacle" aspect of nature. We incorrectly assume a form of connection that makes us special. That makes us different. ANd it's a lie. Jupe incorrectly assumed he had some form of connection that spared him from Gordy. And he incorrectly assumed the same carried for this creature. He treated it as a spectacle rather than something to be left to its own devices. It's why the creature actively ate anybody stupid enough to continue staring at it. Like locking eyes with a chimp, you don't fricking do that.
It's only when you can avoid the spectacle, in essence outright refuse in the case near the end, that you have any hope of salvation. I actually thought this was the simplest of his movies to grasp but then again I could just be talking out my ass.
And the magic shoe supports this theme because…?
I see it as two interpretations. The first is that it was a "bad miracle". The second is that you're waiting for the "other shoe to drop" later on in the movie. The first dropped with Gordy, and the second with Jean Jacket. I think both a viable ways of looking at it. Again, I'm just guessing.
that was an incongruous detail to be creepy.
Therefore not thematic in any way, thus confusing.
David Lynch puts genuinely random shit like that in his films all the time.
You’re putting Peele on Lynch’s level? That doesn’t fly. The conceit with the shoe is that an astute viewer would immediately assume there are aliens at work, causing havoc. In the end, all we got was an errant space manta ray. It’s half-cooked at best, unlike Lynch.
you're right anon, sorry. Peele is of course better than a hack like David Lean, but he certainly doesn't hold a candle to David Lynch, or "best David" as I referred to him jokingly on the times we've met.
I don’t mean to be an elitist, but Lynch, hell even NWR, are auteurs compared to Peele. They put weird random shit int their stuff because life is filled with the weird and random. But in the midst of a literal ape out, the shoe becomes a red herring. Anyone would think—there are aliens doing some freaky shit to us poor humans in out earthly fishbowl…. Instead, in the end all we got was “shoe about to drop” or “this funny coincidence in physical impossibility saved an asian movie star…”
Shit didn’t fly with me.
>are auteurs compared to Peele
I unironically disagree. Peele is so far ahead the likes of Aaronovsky, Wes Anderson, etc. he's the sole writer on all three of his films and does stuff like repeatedly use the same composer like Lynch. even Nope's flaws are the flaws of a man who has too many ideas he can't figure out a way to make clear. of course he's only 3 films in but he's off to a great start and I also personally really liked the Candyman remake he produced.
re. the shoe, I'm specifically thinking of a scene in Mulholland Dr. where someone gets shot and we see a rigid suspended line of hair covered in blood pointing in the trajectory of the bullet.
Peele is Black Shyamalan. All his ideas are borrowed.
Its just supposed to answer why there was only one shoe in the museum. Hence why the shot was framed the way the shoe was framed in the case.
>tfw I fully understood the movie but the end was still a huge mess
Jordan Peele needed to go full Speilburg but he fumbled the delivery of most of the plot-critical stuff after the director decided to go full Captain Ahab.
>have horror movie where all characters behave realistically
>the monster is overcome in a straight-forward manner due to good planning
>...
>cinematographer goes LE CRAZY to pad the runtime and get more action scenes
Same issue I have with Prey, too much spectacle and need for action scenes spoiled the theme.
he was an artist who wanted perfection after spending his life making shitty ads. but yeah despite being set up it felt really contrived that SOMETHING extra had to go wrong.
the TMZ photographer showing up was handled really weirdly too. you could tell there was ADR'd dialogue to explain why his bike stopped working and his dialogue was all so whacky it didn't fit the tone of the film even as black comedy.
a huge issue with the scenario at the end is that once its established that the alien's EMP effect has a specific range, they could have just recorded it with remotely controlled cameras, who cares if they turn off when it gets close if you've got several seconds footage of a fricking space cthulu from multiple angles.
>he was an artist who wanted perfection after spending his life making shitty ads
I got none of this at all. He even said he's constantly in the limelight. There's no lifetime that is his lifetime. Maybe if he was more distraught during the commercial shooting I'd get it, but he acts the same on the phone as he did during the commercial. He just felt like a "artist" until he maybe got something that interested him finally. I got nothing, absolutely fricking nothing that implied that he wanted "perfection".
They already go the shot but then the cinematographer is like "It's magic hour soon..." and he just had to try get the perfect shot.
This, it was all good until this moment. I mean I get it from a film perspective but it was still ass. They should've had him be more deranged beforehand
I thought this was just about how when you're in an "urban" ghetto you're not supposed to look the "urban youth" in the eyes or they ape out.
no, Peele has only made one movie about race.
the monkey had a chimpout
the monkey is a metaphor for blacks, the alien for whites. see?
I feel like Jordan Peele just read a couple pages of the SCP wiki and added black people.
The monkey symbolises African Americans and their uncontrollable behaviour, what Peele meant by this I’m still unsure of, maybe he’s slowly coming back to the white side of history
Why is it named "NOPE"?
Modern Black person irony.
cause they say "nope" in reaction to seeing the monster
>be me
>go to cinema to see what new kinos are out this week
>new Jordan Peele film with majority African American cast
>NOPE
Cause it's le funny
For anti marketing
>Are you going to see me Jordan Peele movie?
>Nope lol
You thought those posts were organic? YOU FOOL!
Not
Of
Planet
Earth
Black folk
Oppose
Powerful
Entity
>Says something nonsensical and kills himself for no reason
>in a gravelly cowboy voice
dude should have stuck to narrating the Big Lebowski.
I don't understand, the Big Lebowski was from 25 years ago
I suppose you might say that The Dude Abides
Are you pretending to be moronic?
I'm saying he was the same archetype.
jeez, you guys. he was straight out of a western. he's specifically given that voice and appearance to be clear that he's a mythic figure, hence going full Ahab.
He has very little, if any, similarities with the narrator of The Big Lebowski. He doesn't serve a similar role in the movie. I am constantly amazed by how Cinemaphile can be so horrifically wrong and misinformed about movies. You guys are about as bad as Cinemaphileirgins when it comes to vidya.
you're responding to an argument I didn't make, which is also very characteristic of Cinemaphile
white people be like
This movie was boring and you can tell it was a COVID movie
Where u had 2 or 3 actors in one scene sitting away from each other
I enjoyed Get out and Us.
But thought this movie was boring and plot was stupid it was just 2 hours of some people trying to record a ufo cause it might make them some money I had no reason to care about this it didn't even have a twist.
What did Cinemaphile think of it?
Boring. Arrogant.
>it didn't even have a twist.
It's not a ship. Thats the twist.
Peele cared so much more about the characters and backstory than storyboarding comprehensible actions sequences involving a UFO. as a result I actually thought the boring stuff was the best part.
The characters were the worst part, the IT guy just starts hanging out with them for no reason.
You are incapable of comprehending people and should promptly be put to death, and your parents should be killed for making you.
You really felt empathy for ugly charisma-less Black person man and his sister that chimps out street homie style when “Jean Jacket (#barfedinmymouthalittle)” —you know, the creature they turned into a spectacle, hence the Bible reference, but is now the villain so these Black folk can make Oprah money — is brutally murdered?
You picking up what I was tryin to lay down?
But it is still true. Peele throws biblical gravitas at us, but in the end the Black folks only want to exploit the monster for money.
>but in the end the Black folks only want to exploit the monster for money.
It's also about reclaiming their place in history after it was taken from them by a filmmaker who didn't respect his subject.
dumbass
Clever
The characters are charism vacuums.
>I enjoyed Get out and Us.
Those movie were kino though
>Those movie were kino though
As a communist I was huge into Obama conspiracy theories for that entire 8 years. "Michelle Obama was a man" was my fav one. Not sure if it was true but Obama had some bizarre CIA ties and stuff. He was still the best president we've had in our lifetimes. The only one who actually regulated any businesses or did anything to help humanity, even if it was only to a small degree. I largely suspect a lot of what he did was only as a necessary response to the 2008 crisis though. Although he deserves all credit for genuinely trying to get universal healthcare passed through the congress. Not one single republican agreed to vote for it. Sucks that they did that and we had to settle for the ACA
>As a communist
Stopped reading
>enjoyed Us
KYS
>it didn't even have a twist.
Are you moronic? The twist is that the UFO is an animal and not a space ship.
That's as lame as the twist in The Happening.
And why the frick does that matter? If you judge movies based on simply having a twist then you're a stupid fricking Black person. Simple as.
Well the movie was pretty boring before that so I was hoping something would happen that would reframe the story into something good.
this "twist" comes halfway in the movie
I haven't seen Get Out. I hated Us. I liked Nope quite a bit.
Get Out is pretty good, I think Nope is slightly better with a more satisfying conclusion. Us, however, is probably one of the worst movies I have ever seen in my entire life, stupid characters, doing stupid things, with a stupid story, and stupid motifs. Nothing redeeming about that film.
You see, the alien was shaped like a rice cracker and the first person it eats is an Asian man pretending to be white. An Asian that pretends to be white is also called a banana, a staple diet for the common chimpanzee. The monster is essentially a chimp and when it finds a family of chimps, it relaxes because they follow chimp rules by not looking it in the eye. The moment it relaxes they of course kill it for money.
You are a damn genius. You just saved this thread, love ya.
Peele is a midwit so this midwit intepretation is 100% on point
>helium balloon kills the creature
Water is no longer stupid
>big dumb animal kills itself by eating something it shouldnt
Many such cases
Why did the camera guy kill himself with the monster?
Coloring books are waysist because you can make will Smith Green and he acutally black.. make a movie bout it sheet where my israelite wife at yooooooooo
I was disappointed with the vore scene, the TikTok clip I saw of it was blurry and the scene in the actual movie wasn't much better somehow
How did the Asian guy feed the alien the horses without dying?
He said his whole family would watch the alien eat the horses
How
Wifey said Lucky was stubborn. When he didn’t do as instructed, the alien lost patience.
>actually really liked the movie when I was watching it
>from "Jean Jacket" onward it becomes complete shit
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's felt this. Yeah this movie had themes about nature and "spectacle" but it feels more concerned about making the metaphor rather than paying off anything.
This thread got me thinking that the Bible quote is meaningless. Jean Jacket is the bad guy and the Black girl goes full chimpout when it dies. So it’s a strangely mixed message with regard to animal (and inferred Black) cruelty…
Director himself said it's suppose to highlight how man cannot tame a predator and make it put on a show. Which is the same thing that the kid who survived the monkey tried to do with the alien (and failed and was killed).
But who the frick thinks a chimp is a predator? If it was a fricking tiger or something I'd understand, but a chimp? The frick were they thinking?
Chimps are predators though, they hunt other monkeys.
It seems to be about the responsibilities movie makers have to their subjects. The Haywoods were erased by movie history by Muybridge, now they're going to get the footage that no one else can get because they're taking the time and effort to really understand their subject. Though they themselves are being exploitative, like when Angel self consciously asks "This is going to do some good, right? it's not just about the money?" They set up a good plan that would have worked except for the TMZ guy (named in the credits as Ryder Muybridge) comes in and heedlessly tries to film Jean Jacket. I did feel like this stuff wasn't really getting across as I watched it, and I'm mainly informed from what I've read about the movie after. They could have underlined some of it better.
I couldn't take the aspect of them "doing some good" seriously when the girl at the end called it the "Oprah Shot".
Yeah, they never really seem to suggest it’s about revenge for their dad.
I honestly thought the ending would be about OJ wanting to go at it after knowing it was responsible for his dad's death.
Instead, they don't even mention it at all.
>OJ wanting to go at it after knowing it was responsible for his dad's death.
Why would OJ want revenge? He's the first one to realize that it's an animal not a ship. I don't seem why he'd want revenge because their dad got killed by something an animal threw up.
>dad got killed by something an animal threw up.
which animal throws a niggel such force to kill a man?
I don't think you're supposed to take it seriously, they definitely could have saved more lives if they weren't so concerned with getting it on film, of course Jupe is mostly responsible for all the deaths.
Fricking lel
>monkey = black people
>alein = white people
The film is a critique of religion, the Steven Yeun character survives the animal mauling and treats it like a miracle and interprets the shoe as a sign when in reality it was a tragedy born of human hubris.
He repeats the tragedy killing many more people (note how his speech before Jean-jacket arrives resembles a church sermon and the vieled woman resembles a religious veil). A parallel to misplaced faith leading to religious fanaticism and tragedy.
Jean Jackets is likely a mundane(at least not supernatural)creature and it's final form resembles an angel implying that ancient sightings of angels and other supernatural beings are survivors of attacks from the species thinking they lived through miracles like how Steven Yeun survived the monkey attack.
It's more likely that they put those ideas in with the same care for themes as Evangelion did, for flavor rather than meaning.
the UFO = Angels idea has been around forever
Aliens came and fricked the monkey.
the monkey is the protagonist and the alien the antagonist?
Is it ripped and up on streaming sites yet?
>enjoying this pretty decent little horror kino
>they go to Fry's
>"HEY BROS WHY U GETTIN' SO MANY CAMERAS?! WHAT THE FREAKIN' HECK UFOS? BRO BRO BRO BRO... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SORRY MAN I WENT THROUGH A BAD BREAKUP RECENTLY FREAKING LATINA, THE CW, AHHH, CAMERAS BROS, KNOW THEY DON'T CALL THEM UFOS ANYMORE?"
Holy shit, what the FRICK was he thinking?
>Holy shit, what the FRICK was he thinking?
He should have just fricked his chubby coworker.
>black director
>asian bad
wow, amazing
>creator won't attack you if you're not attacking it
>but it's also spiteful and will just dump blood, guts, and debris all over you
Yeah the whole analogue doesn't really work considering how outwardly vicious the creature is
won't attack you if you're not attacking it
I genuinely meant to say "creature won't attack you if you aren't looking at it", holy shit
>put fruit in mouth
>spit out the pip
>pip lands on ant and kills it
>DUDE YOU'RE SO SPITEFUL AND MALLICIOUS
Shut the frick up moron.
why did the alien change forms in the third act? it didn’t make sense other than to “look cool”
You figured it out
I meant from Peele’s perspective. I’ve seen reviews of people who thought it looked cool but in universe it didn’t go into at all as to why it’d have two forms
things that are showy like that without a convincing enough reason are super cheap imo
ummm.. le metaphor about spectacle
I can only assume it was supposed to be a threatening display by the alien, seems like a good way to get people to look at it but not worth the decrease in speed
Shit I thought it was because the angel guy wrapped himself in barbed wire and it shredded the alien up and the Black folk just wanted to finish it off
is Peele an animegay?
I don’t watch anime but I’ve seen people reference Evangelion and Akira. I wonder if it’s a legitimate thing or just headcanon-y things
god I forgot about that Akira reference. The whole third act of the film lost me, but that part made me cringe.
if it’s a very on the nose Akira reference I’d be ok with it. If it’s anything less than that then it was super lame and took me out
>if it’s a very on the nose Akira reference I’d be ok with it
The movie ends a big chase sequence with the bike slide.
Peele liked an Evangelion tweet on twitter and put the Akira bike slide in the movie so he's definitely at least a surface level animegay.
Additionally, a lot of people are saying that Evangelion inspired the creature design, one article even saying that production notes directly mention it, but I haven't seen proof of that part just yet.
It has something to do with craving watching and being watched. Not sure what the specific message its. It's not just the staring at animals thing. The old filmmaker makes that remark to the sister about the craving to "have all eyes on you" never ends. And in the end he can' resist running out in the open to get his perfect shot of the alien when it's clearly insane to do so. And there's the TMZ dude who cannot stop obsessing about his camera when he just got mangled on his bike and should be more concerned about getting to an ER. Also the the asian dude who runs the park calls the alien "the viewers"
The internet discourse around this movie is just so weird to me. People just list off what is supposed to represent what. It's all a essay of how the movie is about spectacle, but also you can't tame nature, but barely anyone talks about the characters themselves, their growth or lack there of in some cases, and the overall plot. It's a movie that people seem to love jerking off that they can understand symbolism, but not give me a actual straight forward answer on all the dumb shit that happens in the third act or the inconsistent nature of the creature.
I mean I agree. It was my issue with Get Out too. Really cool theme but if a metaphor isn’t executed well it’s heavy handed
In something like Don’t Look Up I’m ok with the heavy handedness because to me it’s the director screaming at the world (like “seriously what the frick are we doing?”). Nope needed to thread the needle better. It was fine for what it was but ultimately it left a lot on the table
This move is art Peele is new Hitchwiener so obviously people are more interested in themes than plot.
I see it as a feature, not a bug. I prefer an entatrining confusing movie that brings a bunch of theories than the bland innofensive shit Cinemaphile likes so much.
Jordan Peele feels George Lucas-y to me. Interesting and grand ideas but he needs someone to balance him out. It’s the difference between the OT and the prequels
He definitely needs a producer or co-writer. This is why I find all of his films frustrating. There is something there. It's like the man is about to finally land it, but just completely botches the landing.
>He definitely needs a producer or co-writer.
>Ayo playa how come you never talk to me anymore?
He fricked his wife so they don't talk anymore
wtf i love jordan peele now
When will they stop propping him up?
I think Nope is his best film yet seems to be the worst received.
>movie is about "le spectacle"
>a guy showing off a actual alien every Friday drew a crowd of maybe 30 people despite doing this for 6 months
lol okay
it was the first public display
It was shown earlier in the movie that it happened right at his park. OJ saw it when he was with Ghost.
That was a rehearsal moron. It was the middle of the night when he did that.
When was this even stated lol?
>needs it to be stated to understand
use context clues. its why he shows up the next day when they get the fake horse
It was implied, again due to the fact that he was doing it in the middle of the night.
He says these words exactly in his speech to the audience: “every Friday for the last 6 months my family and I have bore witness to an absolute spectacle, one that you’ll be seeing here today”
He was doing it in private until the time we see it
Wait do people not like US?
That movie was way better than this one.
Us is his worst movie and will probably remain as such after he makes 5 more
No it wasn't. Plot was dumb, characters were dumb and the message was dumb. Only thing I can say about us was I think it had the best score of his 3 movies.
>I think it had the best score of his 3 movies.
We can least agree on that
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Though speaking of score I really liked the scene in Nope where the van is playing music and because the alien is near it fricks the electricity which distorts and slows down the music to make it creepier. I really liked that. I feel like there's a term for that with having the score be something actually happening in the scene instead of simply being added on top.
Diegetic music
Diarrhea music
Us was the first and only movie I've ever walked out of the theater on, it was so fricking bad.
I liked it. Some beautifully shot scenes like pyro-boy's death.
Wait so there's a real monkey in the movie? I thought you were talking about the Black folk
something about looking at predators in the eyes idk. and about glen from walking dead thinking he's special but he's not. seems like the movie was trying to be deeper than it was. I appreciated the Sky Jaws aspect, but the monkey thing seemed forced.
>Peele is only 43
>he appeared on Mad TV when he was 21
...huh
He's always looks like he was in his 30s, assumed dude was in his early 50's