I don't get it.
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I don't get it.
I don't get it.
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>saving face is LE BAD
I get it and I love the movie but its underlying message is so fricking dumb.
Yeah, I though it a good film and that's it. The massive overrating it got in the last decade in letterboxd and the likes is absurd.
It's just another common case of
>Thing 🙁
>Thing, Japan :O
This. It's overrated. You don't have to "get it", it's just whatever to alright.
Name better jideaki movies, then.
No Kurosawa.
Sword of Doom and it had better Tatsuya Nakadai perfomance.
Checkmate incel.
What's not to get? It's a very straightforward movie.
It's elliptical in its straightforwardness, thoughever
Those who uphold tradition don't follow tradition when it suits them. Brainlet.
It's easy to judge people in hardship when you've never been through hard times yourself, is the point of the movie.
This plus theres stuff about soldiers getting fricked over when they're not needed anymore, "justice" being an excuse to revel in cruelty, and that rich buttholes who talk big but have never been tested are generally less honourable than people who have suffered and grown from it
This shit is so infuriating to me. moronic ass message, doing bad things will always be bad no matter who you are or what you're going through. I'm literally convinced at this point that there is no choice for me but suicide because my whole life is ruined BECAUSE OF OTHER PEOPLE'S ACTIONS OVER ME, and I've been offered many times to do immoral things just to save my life and I've said no to all of them. morons without honor deserve death, I will an hero to save my pride. Frick everyone that believes that desperation is an excuse to be trash.
Tsugumo literally says that what Chijiwa did was wrong, its just that the Iyi clan jumped out at the chance to brutally murder someone over a petty scam without analyzing the situation at all, when the fact that the dude's wife and baby son were right on death's door were pretty important fricking details
For me, if that was his situation then what he did wasn't wrong. I am talking about doing shit like killing another person to save your life, even when that person is innocent. I'd rather die than do that shit then become a slave for the rest of my life (due to blackmail, regret, etc.).
You are a clueless weeb who doesnt understand asiatic culture which is why you missed the fact why the only retainer that was forced to give him a fair one on one only did it in the middle of nowhere with no seconds.
>guy doesn't bring a second to a duel thats cause is private and embarrassing to the clan
Damn so deep and complex
The point was that militarism and warrior codes are bullshit idealistic doctrines that ultimately end to serve the masters, for whom whether one upkeeps these codes or not is a win-win situation.
Lol you are so stupid it hurts.
He's right dumbass, the movie is explicitly anti bushido
homosexual thread, top kino, don't (You) me.
Based closeted anon
Always keeps his nose colon deep into that gay shit.
Sort of like Unforgiven
Why is this called Harakiri in America instead of Seppuku?
I think Harakiri was just a better known word in the west at that time, I've heard it used in old movies
Seppuku is when you have a nice day out of dishonor. Harakiri is just when you want to die.
moron.
No idea, mate. I just go by this picture that some weeb drew.
Note how the kanji are the same in both words, but just in different orders. Basically probably means the same thing tho.
It challenges certain ideals of honor.
The samurai being avenged was treated like trash because he was willing to grovel and plead for help and even sell his sword, which was seen as cowardly by the other samurai by the rules of their code, but he was setting aside his own pride in order to take care of his family first, which is arguably more brave and admirable.
Only seen the Takashi Miike version how does it compare?
I've not seen the Takashi Miike version but I've seen enough (two) Miike flicks to know that it's in a whole different class of film.
You just watched the best movie ever made (along with fellowship of the rings and ran)
Not much to get other than that
>you just watched the best movie ever made
lol
>along with fellowship of the ring
lmao, even
Of course not.
I dunno,making the guy kill himself with a blunt wooden blade was pretty fricked up
I'm usually not the "POPULAR THING OVERRATED" kind of guy, but this is just pure insanity.
It's a power law. Those are very common and not "insanity".
I forget what I rated it. Lemme check.
4 stars I rated it. I dunno that seems fair.
I gave it 3.5 when I watched it about ten years ago, but I honestly don't remember a single thing about it.
Maybe you didn't pay attention. I watched it years ago and I can remember quite a few of the story beats. Ending was kino, going berserk and fighting off a whole dojo until you die is pretty sick
I'm definitely not a Hara Kiri dick rider by the movie is great, it gets better with each viewing. I'm not into the whole "actually the movie is about.." discussion, it's just a solid film.
The best Samurai film.