There is something deeply repulsive about Japanese media that I find hard to articulate. A lot of western stuff might piss me off, or just elicit total indifference due to how garbage it can be, but even Japanese media which I enjoy a great deal just bothers me in some way.
There's a fakeness to a lot of it, any anime or game or film that is just totally ridiculous and honest about what it is I find enjoyable. But the shit that takes itself seriously just reeks of dishonesty and artifice, even down to how the voice acting and animation are done in a lot of cases. It can try to be twee, or sentimental, but there's a deep-rooted lack of empathy that makes all the dialogue come across as canned, like a really shallow imitation of what a "wholesome" interaction should be from the point of view of a robotic narcissist who tacitly assumes anything positive or nice means a mutual agreement to be dishonest and coddle one another in a very regimented "etiquette" sort of way, that even when it tries to be spontaneous and impulsive, all the movements and sounds the characters make come across as forced and written by a sociopath playing with a dollhouse, creating his utopian reality where nobody really challenges one another.
I guess a way to put it would be that even in the worst western media, a character arc is usually about self-honesty and their inner moral voice, the task of becoming a better person, and learning. With a lot of Japanese stuff its almost like they have no concept of that, and a good world is not one where individuals become good, but where everyone gets what they want so nobody has to be cruel to get what they want and be a good friend is more being polite than pushing someone to be better.
It's hard to explain what I mean. It's evident in the way they treat maturity and tragedy, almost always the brutality of the act is focused on to an excessive degree, it feels like they're all a bunch of rapists and serial killers who are having to constantly repress.
How bout both
who watches this?
spooks
Paruru kawaii.
all four pictures on the right are japanese anime, OP btfo
>But the shit that takes itself seriously just reeks of dishonesty and artifice, even down to how the voice acting and animation are done in a lot of cases.
That's very American of you. You're always so afraid of coming across as elitist or aristocratic. It's one of the deadly sins in the States.
Anime is deep for morons. Thats all you need to know. Every time some autistic frick here tries to preach how anime is something deeper than other video gamey trash, you just know you are talking to a moronic person, who finally found a way in which his child-brains can feel a profound sensation from a media. And you need to be happy for him, because he probably doesn't have that much of life experiences or human connection.
this but unironically. japshit consists of only AI generated gf simulator and edgedark tragedy porn. name 1 fricking anime that isn't gf simulator or AAAAAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE. you fricking can't
>name 1 fricking anime that isn't gf simulator or AAAAAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE.
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
Pokemon
jojo's bizarre adventure
>toxic masculinity simulator for incels
Yeah third genre of anime
homie WHAT
Naruto actually has a good storyline and good character development
You're a xenophobe. You only respect other people if they think and behave exactly like you.
>robotic narcissist who tacitly assumes anything positive or nice means a mutual agreement to be dishonest and coddle one another in a very regimented "etiquette" sort of way, that even when it tries to be spontaneous and impulsive, all the movements and sounds the characters make come across as forced and written by a sociopath playing with a dollhouse, creating his utopian reality where nobody really challenges one another.
So Japanese people?
That's pretty much the way I view non-autistic people. Everything is an elaborate performance, but inside nothing is going on.
Sounds like you have trouble understanding other people, I wonder why that might be
Did you mean to say autistic people or are you, ahem, special?
Autistics are the only real people. Everyone else is a flesh automation.
That's exactly what an autismo would say.
Yes, because it's correct. and you're a robot who an only appeal to social norms.
I'm a misanthrope and an introvert and although unlike autismos I do understand social cues I simply do not care enough about other people to pretend I care about them. I agree most people are unable to think for themselves and need to be told what's currently socially acceptable/trendy in order to know how to act in life but that doesn't make autistic people superior to normies. Most of them are just normies with special needs. The only reason autismos don't do the same thing everyone else is doing is that they are too autistic to do it. They're not not following the script because they'd rather improvise, they're not following the script because they can't fricking read.
This is what you told yourself as an excuse for never getting laid.
This philosophy festered in your autistic little brain so long it extended to the rest of society.
You just got completely dissected by a non-autistic “automated flesh” person. Congratulations.
>immediately jumps to le sex
>claims to have "dissected" anything
lol
lmao, even.
>dude, sex
>dude, please feel social shame
like clockwork.
Samegay.
Reminder that israelites are behind the anti anime shilling
Reminder that tranime is a psyop to appropriate anime for trannies
>tranime troony lost and upset
The containment board. You need to go back.
Go back where? This is an anime website
>it's for pedos!!!!111
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? holy frick go back
>moronic chud
>likes anime
pottery
You could easily cherrypick stylistically distinct anime, and then contrast it against Family Guy, American Dad, The Cleveland Show, Paradise PD, Farzar, and Brickleberry.
>I could easily not accept your objective facts which make me feel cognitive dissonance by inventing some flippant bullshit argument and pretending I'm clever
>all anime looks the same, if I only look at anime that looks the same
I could bring up obscure art projects, but all I really have to bring up is Lupin the Third, Fist of the North Star, and Doraemon, to show that you're completely wrong.
exceptions that prove the rule, and not even particularly good ones. fist of the north star is generic 80s anime that looks like jojo and tons of other shit.
>exceptions
>some of the most popular anime franchises
No, your seasonal pedoshit is the exception, in the greater scheme of things. Fist of the North Star also defined generic 80's anime.
More anime looks the same than american cartoons do, three of those shows are made by the same guy
I don't know. Have you seen Hana Barbara cartoons? Have you seen 80's action cartoons like GI JOE or He-Man? They all had kind of a look.
I know you've seen 90's cartoons and I know you've seen the difference between Ren & Stimpyp, Rugrats, and Powerpuff Girls.
Hanna-Barabera is one studio noted for their cheap quality, so of course "look at all the cartoons made by the same guys, they look the same". They still looked drastically different from Disney movies at the same time. And Hanna-Barbera continued to make cartoons into the 90's and made PPG and Dexter's Lab inspired by the old art style, and they still looked different from King of the Hill and Simpsons, popular cartoons at the same time
There are plenty of Western styles that get prostituted out. There are a lot of cartoons that look kind of like Dexter. There are a lot of cartoons that look kind of like Adventure Time. There are a lot of silly animal CGI movies. The animation industry goes through fads this is true in Japan and America.
In terms of recent anime, I could point to Girl's Last Tour, which has these squat, round, almost South Park looking characters. Land of the Lustrous which is a CGI anime that has very long legged spindly kind of character designs. Jojo, where you can see a transition from 80's muscle beasts to twinks as the artist's style develops. Resident Evil and Starship Troopers anime movies, which are realistic CGI. Sound and Fury and Batman Ninja, which are these stylised comic book shading kind of CGI movie. Junkhead which is stop motion. Pop Team Epic, which is an Adult Swim style shitpost.
I don't even watch that much anime.
>There are a lot of cartoons that look kind of like Dexter.
The popularity of Cartoon Network cartoons in the late 90's caused a lot of people to make an attempt to mimic the art style, in my opinion, which you could see in a lot cartoons in the 00's. It's hard to describe but you will know the qualities when you see them. Dark outlines, flat simple shapes, hard colors, very stylized. It's a drastic change from when cartoons looked like Captain Planet just a decade earlier. That was an superhero show, but you know you'd be insane to say it looks like another popular superhero show at the same time, Batman TAS, which of course looked nothing like on the market, including Marvel cartoons which had their own art style.
And they still all had their own unique art styles. Invader Zim had simple shapes and those dark outlines, but you could never mistake it for Dexter's Lab. Billy & Mandy was another cartoon with some similar qualities and part of this wave of edgy dark comedy, but it looked nothing like Invader Zim either. And none of those shows looked like Kids Next Door, which was also popular but didn't really follow this trend.
>The animation industry goes through fads this is true in Japan and America.
This is my point whenever I talk about this and people cry about "calarts style", but cartoons still manage to differentiate themselves plenty of times, and especially back in 90's and 00's. I still know that everyone who says "calarts styles" know Steven Universe looks nothing like Adventure Time. But then again, I doubt they know anything, because they would lump Gumbal in the same category too.
Animes differentiate themselves too though. You literally just have to watch a few different animes, and stop looking at meme images.
I don't believe they all look the same but compared to cartoons, they hold way more similarities and it's disingenuous to claim cartoons look more alike
At the same time I don't think the Western animation industry operates like the anime industry though. The anime industry pumps out shows, rather than having a few big hits like The Simpsons or Spongebob, and just making those forever.
that tweet looks like a direct response to the "japan makes cartoon characters cute west makes them ugly" tweet so the cherry picking is part of the point probably
Post an ugly anime and ten aesthetically pleasing western cartoons made this year
There weren't even ten western cartoons made this year total, let alone aesthetically pleasing ones. But even if there were you'd cope your way into schizo mindbreak babble about how they're totally ugly trust me bro anyway.
>There are no recent aesthetically please western cartoons and I am completely wrong BUT even if there were you'd cope your way into schizo mindbreak babble about how they're totally ugly trust me bro anyway.
kek
I mean your standard was pretty ridiculous, imagine if I asked for 100 well animated anime from this year that aren't waifu slideshows to prove anime's worth as a medium. The western animated industry doesn't churn out shows like that.
It's not unreasonable at all. You said it was cherry picking that western cartoons are ugly. You can't even find a single ugly anime.
>There weren't even ten western cartoons made this year total
This is probably a lie
aku no hana is purposefully ugly and weebs blew a gasket over it because they are incapable of seeing something that isnt the same exact cute/hot design theyve seen 1000 times before
It was rotoscoped, which was a peculiar stylistic choice, to be fair. Still wouldn't say it looks "ugly".
its kind of ugly, MAL weebs were screeching about how ugly it was in 2013
It's markedly different to the manga. Not really ugly though.
also i wouldnt really say its a peculiar stylistic choice, if anything it would be weird for a story like that to be generic cutehawt moe
Compared to the manga.
yeah, I’m aware of the manga, think the animes style is an improvement
And I think you are a hapless contrarian.
They got angry because it didn't look anything like the manga.
They have a lain avatar with a dark sun in the background, they're probably irony while thinking they're sneaky or something, a pfp like that is a sign of being a homofascist crossdresser.
Anyway's he's still right. The cutest cartoon girl is cuter than the cutest anime girl, it's the simple art styles mostly. The lonely otaku virgin market just isn't big for american cartoons and most companies don't want bronies, so we won't see it at its full potential sadly.
>a pfp like that is a sign of being a homofascist crossdresser.
Aka the most based kind of person to exist
You have to decide if anime is for trannies or nazis, it can't be both.
>it can't be both
Why not?
He has an anime profile picture and one of the anime girls is from a meme e-girl hentai, this is very likely bait and you fell for it.
>”western diversity good, because…IT JUST IS YOU CHUD”
is that fricking shoujo ramune
hate to break it to you, but your /misc/-esque shitposting style won't have any effect on Cinemaphile
>/pol/
Obsessed. One of my #1 criticisms of Asians in general is their near complete inability to take criticism. The west can be self deprecating all day long but say one critical thing of something asian and watch all the face saving whataboutism that comes screeching your way.
cope
Yeah dude
The j_ws want you to stop consuming and not be like a country thats dying and now has to import turkroaches and Blacks
fricking low IQ mexicans that pretend to be locals
I've noticed a huge uptick in seethe aimed at Japan recently, coming, surprisingly, from otherwise anti-mainstream places. I think it's because they're crabs in a bucket, and they've noticed that whilst everything in the West is pozzed beyond saving, the Japanese still have a functional, homogenous society that doesn't have to live in the desert, or somewhere similarly uncomfortable. Japan is a vision of the West that was stolen by israelites and instead of le Aryans living there it's short, yellow people with squinty eyes, and the crabs can't stand it.
That’s funny considering how degenerate anime usually is
Well, Aryans were known for kidnapping and raping women and Japs love rape.
…so I guess everything works out in the end
>whilst everything in the West is pozzed beyond saving, the Japanese still have a functional, homogenous society
this is just a larp and everyone is sick of it. japan has troony schools, troony politicians, a massive sexless manchild coomer epidemic, and has legalized gay marriage in the past 5 years for half of the population. the country itself has already replaced its culture entirely and there is nothing left but roads, wires, and concrete box "houses"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Japan#List
>legalized gay marriage in the past 5 years for half of the population
Only half of the population has the equipment to be gay :^)
A heart?
>the country itself has already replaced its culture entirely and there is nothing left but roads, wires, and concrete box "houses"
Okay moron. All this western lobbying and they're sitll the most homogenous coutnry in the world.
>Japanese still have a functional, homogenous society
>hit by 20 year depression resulting in world's highest suicide rates and the collapse of japanese birth rates
>world's highest suicide rates
weird that their suicide rate is comparable to the US which I assume your homosexual ass is from
Pretty much.
Anime is pro pedophilia
>but hollywood
Anime still is
Cinemaphile is a dickychad board, tourist.
Reminder that Cinemaphile, /m/ and even /jp/ don't want twitter hispanics like you on their boards
Reminder that twitter hispanics like you don't want to be on those boards either because you don't actually belong on this site
Literal schizophrenic gibberish
>Reminder that israelites are behind the anti anime shilling
Anime is just made by socially moronic people, for socially moronic people. It’s not really that complex. Neither the creators nor the audience have a deep theory of mind, so they rely completely on surface-level tropes and stock characters. Miyazaki said about as much himself
>Miyazaki said about as much himself
"Anime is made by people who cannot stand looking at other people." He was criticizing their simple animation that doesn't understand human expression or movement.
Anno said something similar but more in regards with writing. He literally called anime creators autistic in the 90's
You are right that he is talking about the quality of animation, but I think you’re taking too narrow of an interpretation. I think he is also talking about the realism of the characters.
> You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, "Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life." If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it. Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!
I should have guessed an autist wouldn't be able to understand what theory of mind is actually about. Stock characters are as old story telling itself. Someone that wasn't autistic would understand why.
Oh the irony.
there's a difference between virginal bugman products and archetypes
cope
Diagnosis confirmed.
you didn't address the argument
you lost
>pseud drivel
>miyazaki
yep its westerner time
i like seeing super robots beat the bad guys. your loss
>people who have seen a handful of cartoons aimed at children, try to morally condemn an entire people and an entire culture
No, you go on. It's them who are wrong. With their gross squinty eyes and uncooked fish they eat with sticks like a bunch of savages.
Anime is made for the basement dwellers of Japan.
If you hyper focus on that anime, sure. American animation is made for people who want to see cartoon characters talk about sex and die violently.
I’m pretty sure that’s the kind of anime OP is talking about and the kind of anime Cinemaphile likes. Who cares if western animation sucks.
japanese media in general is dogshit
Just look at the live action, as soon as they get a hint of western approval they double down on making more like it to get sales(this applies heavily to korean cinema as well)
The yellow mind can not create. It can only copy, because it was not made in the image of God.
what about all the instances america copied japan?
It's part of the anti Japan demotivation campaign. Ignore it.
Oh no, not the cherrypicked bootleg commercial products that nobody has ever heard of!
Western animation definitely has more diversity with their designs, though anime still overpowers with numbers alone. Your picture looks pretty small compared to Madhouse's productions alone (Yuasashit, Konshit, FKMTshit, etc.). Anime also has a greater diversity of genres and settings overall and is generally aimed at older audiences. Even the most run of the mill shounen or cgdct shit have casts of teenagers rather than elementary / middle school kids.
I like this stuff, but that's it when it comes to Japanese media.
>it feels like they're all a bunch of rapists and serial killers who are having to constantly repress
That's just how the japanese are
> there's a deep-rooted lack of empathy that makes all the dialogue come across as canned, like a really shallow imitation of what a "wholesome" interaction should be from the point of view of a robotic narcissist who tacitly assumes anything positive or nice means a mutual agreement to be dishonest and coddle one another in a very regimented "etiquette" sort of way, that even when it tries to be spontaneous and impulsive, all the movements and sounds the characters make come across as forced
Congratulations, you've just described Japanese culture.
Your problem here is you can't imagine anyone not prorammed to respond to e everything like a westerner.
Literally this
12 angry men and shawshank redemption are both 9/10s for me
Manga > Anime
youve clearly never seen Cencoroll
>Winter Light
>Last Year at Marienbad
>The Face of Another
>Fricking 2001: A Space Odyssey
Those are all shit anon. You could've at least picked actual kino.
Name 4 to replace those then.
boring shit with no hooks
she doesnt wear pants at the start of the movie, kinda gross
I sort of understand. Ex gf convinced me to watch violet evergarden.
Based moron. Enjoy diversity brought to you by trannies.
I've never met a normal person who liked anime
It’s normal if you’re young. Plenty of normal kids watched dbz back in the day.
DBZ is hardly anime
I remember normal kids watching Naruto too
>demographic and genre defining work that influenced tens of thousands of mangaka and animators
>hardly anime
die
Would you consider yourself a normal person?
Who do you think watches Shounen Jump shit?
Anime not all anime but a large chunk has retained it's soul at least in part, of course soulless westoid golems feel threatened by it. They lost their humanity long ago and are now just a shallow husks lashing out because of their rotten nature. It's pitiful.
Have you ever read Tolstoy?
didn't read Black personhomosexual enjoy your pozzed israelite media
When the girl's boobs jiggle and the guy accidentally touched them and got a nosebleed, I felt so much soul
Maybe stop watching cgdct and Shitkai and try anything else or frick off you stupid homosexual. You have to be absolutely moronic to try and pin these things down to anime as a whole and it's not like anything on the left side of your photo is all that "wholesome" or "moral" either.
>almost always the brutality of the act is focused on to an excessive degree
Give some examples where the act is any more egregious than your run of the mill blockbuster then. Or are you just speaking out of your ass like the rest of your post?
I hate film enthusiasts so much it's unreal. You are walking palettes of dissonance and hatred.
I'm watching Yu Yu Hakusho now, it's pretty good.
People who have a hate boner for anime usually just focus on the seasonally moe stuff for whatever reason.
The fact that there are twenty plus seasons of the Simpsons still running of the fumes of the show's peak fame in the 90's, means we probably shouldn't be criticising anime too much for lacking originality.
Everyone hates Zombie Simpsons (as well as Amazon's Rings of Power)
>as well as Amazon's Rings of Power
Speak for yourself chudtard
It will be big succes and there's nothing you can do about it
Black person
troony
*blocks your path*
The best movie I’ve seen is berserk. The only con is that it isn’t a movie.
I wish I liked anime but lose my attention any time I watch some
I don't know why weeblets still watch anime when Japanese women cuter than anime girls exist...
This is a live action Japanese board
What a massive over-generalisation.
There aren't enough beds/rooms in all the mental institutions of the world to house all the people who have lost their minds because anime bad. This is one of the great mental health disasters of the West.
holy fricking seethe bro, not reading all that btw
me like it so fuk u
Reminder that all the Japan hatred on this board comes from crypto-likes who want white men to be afraid and suspicious of homogeneous societies that have a typical honour culture like European nations.
>Reminder that all the Japan hatred on this board comes from crypto-likes who want white men to be afraid and suspicious of homogeneous societies that have a typical honour culture like European nations.
>>>/b/
>It can try to be twee, or sentimental, but there's a deep-rooted lack of empathy that makes all the dialogue come across as canned, like a really shallow imitation of what a "wholesome" interaction should be from the point of view of a robotic narcissist who tacitly assumes anything positive or nice means a mutual agreement to be dishonest and coddle one another in a very regimented "etiquette" sort of way, that even when it tries to be spontaneous and impulsive, all the movements and sounds the characters make come across as forced and written by a sociopath playing with a dollhouse, creating his utopian reality where nobody really challenges one another.
That's a very good description of one of the running themes in Yoshiyuki Tomino's various TV anime
You could have just said it was gay. Sorry but anime is for homosexuals, there are literally no exceptions. That shit is gay as hell.
I know what you mean OP. After watching some Thai movie that was big in Cannes i came to the realization that non-whites simply don't understand art, they just try to imitate what they see as art and somehow end up creating something truly soulless.
this was kino and sovl
anime literally cannot compete. do not raise your children on that filth
Thanks Ghostler
In anime you can have more action because you don't need a high budget to recreate it live which i like
Man... I miss the times when I was young and I came in here because it was raunchy to be on the racist site.
Now, every single place is littered with raging racist, it's not even fun anymore.
and this dump has became an insane asylum for mentally deranged skizos.
Do people even watch anime anymore? Even garbage shows like Gurren Lagann and Code Geass were big on other boards 10 years ago.