I don't mind spider-verse visual style in spider-verse, but i hate to see it in non-spider-verse. Does that make sense?
I don't mind spider-verse visual style in spider-verse, but i hate to see it in non-spider-verse.
I don't mind spider-verse visual style in spider-verse, but i hate to see it in non-spider-verse. Does that make sense?
yeah i get it. If every animated film now wants to be spider-verse inspired it will ironically make them all the same.
>Beauty and the Beast is a hit
>almost every animated film going forward is a kids' musical
>Toy Story is a hit
>CG animation becomes the new norm
>Shrek is a hit
>more animated features become star-powered and pop culture referential
Is anyone really shocked?
Spider-Verse wasn't a hit though and every movie that copied its gimmick flopped
Big Hero 6 made more money than ATSV adjusted for inflation and you don't see anyone copying that
>Spider-Verse wasn't a hit
The Academy begs to differ.
So beauty and the beast, toy story and shrek were hits because of the academy?
Literally yes (of course among other things).
>So beauty and the beast, toy story and shrek were hits because of the academy?
All of those have much better reviews
>animation oscar
>post 2016 especially
Who gives a shit really, Happy Feet, Brave, Big Hero 6, Soul etc all have one and aren't considered hits by anyone
>Spider-Verse wasn't a hit though and every movie that copied its gimmick flopped
It's sequel made more than double the amount the first one did and the first one made a decent (but not spectacular) haul at the box office with a insane surge of popularity once it hit streaming on Netflix. Puss in Boots 2 (one of the more notable "spider verse style" films also made a decent amount at the box office and is widely praised by next to everyone.
>It's sequel made more than double the amount the first one did and
Second lowest grossing Spider-Man ever
>the first one made a decent (but not spectacular) haul at the box office
Lowest grossing Spider-Man ever
>with a insane surge of popularity once it hit streaming on Netflix.
[citation needed]
>Puss in Boots 2 (one of the more notable "spider verse style" films also made a decent amount at the box office and is widely praised by next to everyone.
Lowest grossing Shrek ever
>>It's sequel made more than double the amount the first one did and
>Second lowest grossing Spider-Man ever
Considering that Spider verse 2 cost only 100 million dollars to make and made (as I'm typing this) 689 million and something like The Amazing Spiderman 2 cost 200-300 million to make and made only 709 million it's still far in away a considerably successful spiderman film, not to mention all the praise it's received.
>>the first one made a decent (but not spectacular) haul at the box office
>Lowest grossing Spider-Man ever
Lot of factors at play there.
1. It's a Sony pictures animated film, a studio that isn't a household name with its highest grossing movie (before spider verse 2) being "the lego movie" which made a decent but not spectacular 468 million.
2. It's an animated superhero movie, which don't tend to do as well as live action ones (i.e the Lego Batman, Batman Mask of the Phantasm)
3. It's an animated movie that isn't particularly aimed at children which also impacted it's demographics and therefore potential box office.
>>with a insane surge of popularity once it hit streaming on Netflix.
>[citation needed]
Not bullshitting when I can't say I can't find the article because all of the searches are filled with "when will across the spiderverse come to streaming" results. Either way the fact that word of mouth alone caused the sequel to make as much money as it did still proves the point that the movie received a lot of attention after it's initial release.
>>Puss in Boots 2 (one of the more notable "spider verse style" films also made a decent amount at the box office and is widely praised by next to everyone.
>Lowest grossing Shrek ever
Its a sequel to a spinoff and dreamworks best movie in a while.
Also I hate how every single spider verse hater uses "box office gross" as a legitimate method to bash the films success. Fucking Iron Giant flopped massively and its considered one of the greatest animated movies of all time.
Miles "masterpiece" sequel couldn't outgross The Amazing Spider-Man 2 even with a decade of inflation. It couldn't outgross the first Raimi-Man even with two decades of inflation. Miles is only a success with critics and critics today are a bunch of limp-wristed gays.
Christ was this all about shitting on miles? I feel like that's /co's #1 motive for shitting on Spider verse quite frankly.
As somebody who likes Spider-Verse there's a lot of issues with them
>Peni, Ham, and Noir are completely unneeded and do not serve the plot anyway as they're comedic bit characters
>they cut Ganke's role as Miles' best friend and single normal person who Miles is able to confide in allowing him to grow without Peter for these bit characters
>Tombstone and Scorpion exist only as thugs to be beat up and serve zero purpose beyond it and I can't remember a single thing Tombstone says across the entire film
>the Spot and Miles attempting to live a normal life while juggling superhero responsibilities would have made for a much more interesting film than whatever the fuck Spider-Society is
>Spider-Society is such a fundamental misunderstanding of Peter Parker's trauma as the entire point of his guilt is he refuses to let others come to harm and experience the pain he once experienced by being selfish and letting those he loved down by refusing to intervene
>Miguel and Ben are so completely misrepresented in Spider-Verse they're essentially entirely different characters from their original incarnations who have a passing likeness to the originals
>the crux of the plot in Spider-Verse is essentially bitching about how people won't accept Miles as a true Spider-Man instead of making a good Spider-Man story with Miles instead of Meta-Fiction bullshit
>the Spider-Society exist to be humiliated and clowned on as a strawman to the Spider-Men that the filmmakers actually liked
sometimes i really wish tha these movies were just straight-up Miles stories with no multiverse shit included. I always prefer simpler stories in my capeshit
*to the idpol tokens that the filmmakers actually liked
Miles is a shit character and his movies exist to prop him up at the expense of better characters. He and his dickriders deserve nothing but scorn.
None of that changes the fact people don't want to see the art style compared to stuff like Minions or Mario which easily clears billions
>"No one wants to see new animation techniques as opposed to same-y budget friendly ones"
This is the most anti-creativity/ anti-art take I have ever seen. Imagine fucking standing behind "Minions" as a bastion of western animation...
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The argument is about the movies in that style flopping. They look ugly, have a subversive rather than innovative take on art, have shit social themes, so I don't mind them flopping, though I'm not happy about Minions doing well either. I was hoping for a 2D revival but these cel shaded 3D movies have put a dampener on that.
>as opposed to same-y budget friendly ones"
You mean like the "Spider-Verse" style?
Yes, you're a gatekeeper
The framerate thing, ok, but films like Mutant Mayhem aren't as derivative as many here claim. This is a busy, glitchy sorta techy schizo style, and the Turtles is dirty, funky, stylized. Aesthetically completely different.
Yeah. I like the style, but I didn't think it served Puss in Boots as well as it did Spider-Verse. I prefer to see some 2D techniques in 3D films, but imitating the low framerate action in Spider-Verse goes too far into mimicry in my opinion. Last Wish would have been better served doing its own thing.
The style worked well for Puss in boots 2, besides borrowing the whole "low framerate" shit the artstyle itself combined with the animation made it feel like a moving storybook as opposed to a comic book like Spiderverse honestly.
I think it'd be fine if it weren't the same techniques / shaders being used. TMNT was flying a little too close for my liking, but stayed enough towards looking like "kid's shitty notebook drawings" that it still set itself apart.
>mfw the framerate drops
don't for get about anxiety and panic attacks!
as a dude who actually has anxiety (and might have had an panic attack), this trend and the people praising it grind my fucking gears
Because most of the time people fake it
TMNT had one scene with a normal framerate for some reason (could be an error) and it was like joy to my eyes, I hope the movies keep flopping so the retarded trend doesn't catch on
No, it's an eyesore and your brand loyalty is showing.
>peni miles posters finally got tired
/toon/ is healing
>corporation who paid to win it's award and praise from the media are surprised when it turns out their movie is actually a flop
No.
That's like saying you like cel shading in Wind Waker but hate it in Jet Set Radio
>mpreg