Nothing happens in the middle episodes and the supporting characters (especially the black cop and the lady cop) do almost nothing for the entire show.
I thought it was going to be a Long Kiss Goodnight situation where the wife was secretly a CIA bad-ass, but she was just some dumb wife who got abused. Really threw me out of it with how capable she seemed in the gas station.
I was gonna ask "what about s4" and then I looked it up to remind myself which storyline it was and realized I gave up 2 episodes in, too
Lmao what a disaster
>1 > 3 > 2
I used to think this, but after my latest re-watch something changed and 2 got on top.
Personally I just think that season 2 "feels" the most Fargo, if that makes any sense.
Season 1 established what amazing TV should be, and season 2 perfected it down to the very last detail.
And while 3 was good, but 4 was complete nonsense garbage, I think 5 (while not as good) brought it back to the overall quality of 3.
But again, that's just an opinion.
>This is based on a TRUE story, only the names have been changed >No seriously, there really WAS a massive gun battle with the feds and a local white supremacist sheriff in the Midwest, you didn't hear about it? >Also, the immortal Swedish guy? Yeah, 100% true. >Remember that season with the alien spaceship? Totally happened, bro.
>how can we show that our woman character is strong? >the only way we can do it is to show her triumphing over a bunch of semi-moronic mooks who make inexplicably bad decisions
They ruined Roy so hard in the name of making fun of conservative-libertarian types in the finale. > Roy starts the season as Christian cowboy sheriff telling both the federal and state government to frick off and fight and die for his ranch with his own followers. > Roy ends the season as a coward who abandons his followers to die and be imprisoned and suddenly becomes a nazi in prison even though he wasn't racist at all.
They had to ruin him in the finale. They could had easily ended his story with him dying in battle with his followers and go out like a martyr. Why can't villains have complex traits and be multilayered individuals? Its like they had to make him as pathetic as possible.
I laughed when he slashed his father-in-law's throat. But yeah, he went full moron just to fit the after school special themes of the show. It's all so tiresome.
> I laughed when he slashed his father-in-law's throat.
This part made no sense at all. He even said Odin was supposed to lead the men. So what was the point in killing him? The finale made no sense for Roy. What was the point in even telling off the government forces and recruiting people if he was going to run anyway. Was it to kill Dot? Its crazy as frick to build up this image of this character and completely undo it.
>What was the point in even telling off the government forces and recruiting people if he was going to run anyway
I don't think it's meant that he planned to run, but it's to show he was a coward in the face of equal power, just an abuser when he could get away with it
Makes sense for his character
People here are gonna be mad about it because "based conservative"
you see a naked immortal man from Norway but he's all covered in mud and the blood of a goat
oh and for a few seconds you see a surly brown girl wearing a bra
I think that's it
>Noah Hawley has only sucked balls and taint since 2020
You don't remember his one foray into cinema with Lucy in the Sky (2019)? He adapted the lurid true life story about a female astronaut driving across country in a diaper to murder her boyfriend's wife into a serious drama about the universe where the aspect ratio changes 20 times.
Lmao terrible opinion
It comes across almost like a parody of the show's style instead of actually fitting in
Olaf or whatever his name was was such a shitty attempt at shoehorning in an ethereally evil villain
>It comes across almost like a parody of the show's style instead of actually fitting in
I couldn't put my finger on it about what bugged me about this season, but you nailed it for me. It feels like someone trying to imitate the dark comedic sensibilities of the Coen brothers, but it just comes off like a dumbly written parody. The first 2 seasons didn't feel like that at all.
>every male character is a bumbling idiot who fails >every woman character is a strong powerful girlboss on a redemption arc
Way too forced
Why do they hate us so much
>make male antagonist >98% of what he says and does is incredibly based and any normal person sees this man as the protagonist >the last 2% is balls-to-the-wall batshit insanity going directly against what someone like that would think and do (For more examples of this, please consider: The Boys)
Ridiculous.
>should
Look at the world. Women need to be controlled for their own good, and some need a smack because they just can't fricking stand not getting the last word in, doesn't matter how fantastically fricking moronic they behave.
>only 2% of him was insane
>starts with choking a man for beating his wife >"you better fricking not do that again" >tells obviously moronic woman she needs to give her husband a chance >"remember to suck dick and cook" >maybe a bit over the top but not insane >FBI whines about him not following the law >"laws are moronic, I deal in right and wrong" >this is how the world should work, he is based >drones don't understand despite having a duty as a citizen to make the country better, but why do that when you can just blindly obey the state >throughout the show he remains based, since all we have to go on is what he has said, which again, is true, logical and based >THEN we see his moronic actions that makes no sense based on what he has said before
Now that I think about it, he's obviously just a gay hypocrite, but the writers don't understand what they're talking about when they use right-wing buzz-words and rhetoric to make him seem stupid, so they just achieve making a good man seem out of nowhere sociopathic.
Political bullshit aside, it's just a huge fricking mess that talks a lot without saying anything. Hawley is clearly more interested in indulging big ideas, showstopping scenes and "epic" vibes than creating a coherent, focused or meaningful plotline, resulting in episodes that seem "important" when taken one at a time but don't really add up to anything when taken as a whole. Everything is one dimensional, half baked and often contradictory. Each episode introduces a new thematic angle that doesn't go anywhere and then the whole thing wraps up with a half assed sitcom style moral lecture.
Hawley has developed a horribly inflated sense of his own potential and worth as some great satirist or something, but has completely abandoned basic screenwriting discipline, let alone logic. All he cares about is lazily calling out whatever political boogeyman of the moment is grinding his gears, everything else is secondary.
>shows explicitly states that Ole is from Wales >intellectuals itt call him swedish and norwegian
These are the same people saying Roy turning up to be a coward is a bad thing
Idk why they make him Welsh and then style and accent the character like that
Literally the only thing welsh about him is the tartan and it's immediately overridden by every other character detail
The good white guy is good because he's a beta who blindly follows his wife and stays at home the entire series and never mans up or does anything.
The good black guy is good because he had lots of sisters, and it's okay when he dies because he had no wife or children.
There's also a sociopathic debt billionaire, who controls the justice system and laughs about ruining a mans entire family because he went against her. (Potentially most evil character in the entire fargo series). But she gets completely forgiven and receives no punishment because she backs up her daughter in law who she hated after she heard she got abused by a man.
I doubt that but also I can't tell you your wrong with 100% certainty, since I will never watch this or True Detective season 4.
It was good. Better than that season where the cop goes to LA.
Why the frick do morons keep being up true detective?
show usually has way too many characters fricking about but this one seemed to find a balance. it made me care more
You could remove every single scene the Indian cop is in and nothing in the movie changes.
What was tge use of that black cop aside from being killed at the end.
she's the best part
Dot was saved because of her intel. Intel she only got because of her changing story arc
He's literally me.
Nothing happens in the middle episodes and the supporting characters (especially the black cop and the lady cop) do almost nothing for the entire show.
I thought it was going to be a Long Kiss Goodnight situation where the wife was secretly a CIA bad-ass, but she was just some dumb wife who got abused. Really threw me out of it with how capable she seemed in the gas station.
>it subverted my expectations
>that means bad 🙁
Incredibly moronic opinion.
But it was surprisingly good.
And it's 2 > 1 > 3 > 5, if anyone has some doubts.
I was gonna ask "what about s4" and then I looked it up to remind myself which storyline it was and realized I gave up 2 episodes in, too
Lmao what a disaster
For me it's 1 > 3 > 2 > 5
>1 > 3 > 2
I used to think this, but after my latest re-watch something changed and 2 got on top.
Personally I just think that season 2 "feels" the most Fargo, if that makes any sense.
Season 1 established what amazing TV should be, and season 2 perfected it down to the very last detail.
And while 3 was good, but 4 was complete nonsense garbage, I think 5 (while not as good) brought it back to the overall quality of 3.
But again, that's just an opinion.
>This is based on a TRUE story, only the names have been changed
>No seriously, there really WAS a massive gun battle with the feds and a local white supremacist sheriff in the Midwest, you didn't hear about it?
>Also, the immortal Swedish guy? Yeah, 100% true.
>Remember that season with the alien spaceship? Totally happened, bro.
Why are they such liars?
Please be moronic.
>muh spaceship
Hamm appears to be turning into Tommy Lee Jones
And not a moment too late
>how can we show that our woman character is strong?
>the only way we can do it is to show her triumphing over a bunch of semi-moronic mooks who make inexplicably bad decisions
They ruined Roy so hard in the name of making fun of conservative-libertarian types in the finale.
> Roy starts the season as Christian cowboy sheriff telling both the federal and state government to frick off and fight and die for his ranch with his own followers.
> Roy ends the season as a coward who abandons his followers to die and be imprisoned and suddenly becomes a nazi in prison even though he wasn't racist at all.
They had to ruin him in the finale. They could had easily ended his story with him dying in battle with his followers and go out like a martyr. Why can't villains have complex traits and be multilayered individuals? Its like they had to make him as pathetic as possible.
I laughed when he slashed his father-in-law's throat. But yeah, he went full moron just to fit the after school special themes of the show. It's all so tiresome.
> I laughed when he slashed his father-in-law's throat.
This part made no sense at all. He even said Odin was supposed to lead the men. So what was the point in killing him? The finale made no sense for Roy. What was the point in even telling off the government forces and recruiting people if he was going to run anyway. Was it to kill Dot? Its crazy as frick to build up this image of this character and completely undo it.
>What was the point in even telling off the government forces and recruiting people if he was going to run anyway
I don't think it's meant that he planned to run, but it's to show he was a coward in the face of equal power, just an abuser when he could get away with it
Makes sense for his character
People here are gonna be mad about it because "based conservative"
Is there nudity?
you see a naked immortal man from Norway but he's all covered in mud and the blood of a goat
oh and for a few seconds you see a surly brown girl wearing a bra
I think that's it
Oh ok. I thought juno temple might get naked in this
Ha! no
Noah Hawley is a hack. Fargo sucks, Legion sucked, and his Alien series will suck.
>Legion sucked
you take that BACK
Noah Hawley has only sucked balls and taint since 2020, he must have got hit by lightning or something
>Noah Hawley has only sucked balls and taint since 2020
You don't remember his one foray into cinema with Lucy in the Sky (2019)? He adapted the lurid true life story about a female astronaut driving across country in a diaper to murder her boyfriend's wife into a serious drama about the universe where the aspect ratio changes 20 times.
Lmao terrible opinion
It comes across almost like a parody of the show's style instead of actually fitting in
Olaf or whatever his name was was such a shitty attempt at shoehorning in an ethereally evil villain
>It comes across almost like a parody of the show's style instead of actually fitting in
I couldn't put my finger on it about what bugged me about this season, but you nailed it for me. It feels like someone trying to imitate the dark comedic sensibilities of the Coen brothers, but it just comes off like a dumbly written parody. The first 2 seasons didn't feel like that at all.
I wouldn't know, I dropped it after two episodes.
I would have attempted to watch had they not put disgusting Juno Temple as the female lead.
Juno a cute, you gayboi.
Maybe it’s time to go back to r*ddit little homosexual
>every male character is a bumbling idiot who fails
>every woman character is a strong powerful girlboss on a redemption arc
Way too forced
Why do they hate us so much
>make male antagonist
>98% of what he says and does is incredibly based and any normal person sees this man as the protagonist
>the last 2% is balls-to-the-wall batshit insanity going directly against what someone like that would think and do (For more examples of this, please consider: The Boys)
Ridiculous.
I'd say the whole thing about men should 100% control women and beat them was more than 2% of the character
>should
Look at the world. Women need to be controlled for their own good, and some need a smack because they just can't fricking stand not getting the last word in, doesn't matter how fantastically fricking moronic they behave.
>starts with choking a man for beating his wife
>"you better fricking not do that again"
>tells obviously moronic woman she needs to give her husband a chance
>"remember to suck dick and cook"
>maybe a bit over the top but not insane
>FBI whines about him not following the law
>"laws are moronic, I deal in right and wrong"
>this is how the world should work, he is based
>drones don't understand despite having a duty as a citizen to make the country better, but why do that when you can just blindly obey the state
>throughout the show he remains based, since all we have to go on is what he has said, which again, is true, logical and based
>THEN we see his moronic actions that makes no sense based on what he has said before
Now that I think about it, he's obviously just a gay hypocrite, but the writers don't understand what they're talking about when they use right-wing buzz-words and rhetoric to make him seem stupid, so they just achieve making a good man seem out of nowhere sociopathic.
>only 2% of him was insane
Political bullshit aside, it's just a huge fricking mess that talks a lot without saying anything. Hawley is clearly more interested in indulging big ideas, showstopping scenes and "epic" vibes than creating a coherent, focused or meaningful plotline, resulting in episodes that seem "important" when taken one at a time but don't really add up to anything when taken as a whole. Everything is one dimensional, half baked and often contradictory. Each episode introduces a new thematic angle that doesn't go anywhere and then the whole thing wraps up with a half assed sitcom style moral lecture.
Hawley has developed a horribly inflated sense of his own potential and worth as some great satirist or something, but has completely abandoned basic screenwriting discipline, let alone logic. All he cares about is lazily calling out whatever political boogeyman of the moment is grinding his gears, everything else is secondary.
>shows explicitly states that Ole is from Wales
>intellectuals itt call him swedish and norwegian
These are the same people saying Roy turning up to be a coward is a bad thing
Idk why they make him Welsh and then style and accent the character like that
Literally the only thing welsh about him is the tartan and it's immediately overridden by every other character detail
He is welsh because sin eating was a common practice in wales
OOLAH MOONK
>shows explicitly states that Ole is from Wales
When?
In the flashback where he is eating the sin of the dead rich guy, it says it is in wales
is this another one where the white man is the bad person and minorities and women are good?
yeah
>has black bad characters
>has women bad characters
>BUT LOOK THERE'S ALSO A WHITE MAN BAD CHARACTER THAT MEANS ITS WOKE
The good white guy is good because he's a beta who blindly follows his wife and stays at home the entire series and never mans up or does anything.
The good black guy is good because he had lots of sisters, and it's okay when he dies because he had no wife or children.
There's also a sociopathic debt billionaire, who controls the justice system and laughs about ruining a mans entire family because he went against her. (Potentially most evil character in the entire fargo series). But she gets completely forgiven and receives no punishment because she backs up her daughter in law who she hated after she heard she got abused by a man.
Chuds got triggered by the bible fanatic wife-beater.
I got triggered because he has a crucifix with a statue of Jesus on it, and yet he is obviously a protestant
lil chuddie got btfo, so of course Cinemaphile hated it