I hate the Antichrist.
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I hate the Antichrist.
I hate the Antichrist.
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Best movie of last year.
pedo
I am attracted to men.
what he said still stands then, you homosexual pedo
>This whole movie had a sinister, ugly vibe
Care to elaborate?
This whole movie had a sinister, ugly vibe to it.
Explain
Visually the movie is hideous, garish and overstylized. Everything from the color palette to the set designs to the costuming to Willem’s whole character to the weird hybrid creatures. And the whole thing is about men fricking a child inside the body of a woman which I consider fairly sinister
>men fricking a child inside the body of a woman which I consider fairly sinister
Fairly?
>the whole thing is about men fricking a child inside the body of a woman which I consider fairly sinister
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The movie is sex-positive throughout, including when she has the brain of a toddler. She doesn’t suffer any negative consequences like pregnancy or disease and she doesn’t regret it. Any character who has a problem with her being a prostitute is portrayed as silly and unreasonable. The characters we’re supposed to like all accept or at least don’t vigorously object to the little girl getting her brains fricked out on the reg.
You get that every character was an evil caricature, right?
Every male character.
FTFY
Every white male character, ftfy
>the lady who ran the prostitutehouse
>the socialist prostitute who eats the little girl out
>the nihilistic Black person
What was wrong with the black guy? He felt more realistic to me among the cast of mostly weird characters.
Yes, because he was a defeatist loser, which you found relatable.
Brothel lady, the black lesbian, and the black nihilist are all positive figures.
I'd say the brothel lady and the black lesbian are, but while the black cynic isn't portrayed as a piece of shit or anything, I do think the film did not agree with his viewpoint and would be more aligned with Bella's that he was a coward.
Did you miss the part where the prostitutehouse lady kept biting the little girl?
>she’s biting randomly haha
>that’s evil
She’s portrayed as a sympathetic grandma looking after her grandchild.
That portrayal only serves to highlight how despicable the character's arrangement is.
it's the kind of movie message that is slippery like a israeli eel whenever you criticize it
>Sex positivism is a good thing! You are not a prude, huh?
>It's a black comedy! It's supposed to be disgusting and uncomfortable!
repeat ad nauseam
You're a moron. The movie is staunchly anti-pedophilia.
No, it really isn’t. At best it has unintended but very present pedo undertones.
>unintended
lol
I’m just trying to give the filmmakers the benefit of the doubt because I really don’t want to think about the possibility that they made the movie like that on purpose
They did indeed set out to make a film about how pedophilia is bad.
How does it portray pedophilia as bad? How does it portray promiscuity as bad?
There are no consequences to either behavior in the film.
Where are you living? Over a century ago? You're expecting all the bad characters to get their comeuppance? You realize that doesn't always happen, right?
It's a film about a bunch of people taking advantage of a little girl and it ends with her taking advantage of everyone else. That's the best you're gonna get.
I’m not talking about characters getting comeuppance. I’m talking about the movie EXPLICITLY portraying pedophilia and promiscuity as POSITIVE PARTS of a woman’s development.
It doesn't portray them as positive parts at all.
But it does. She’s a complete, well-rounded independent woman by the end of the film. And she’s only like this because she was SEXUALLY ABUSED and then SOLD HER BODY.
She talks about this with the brothel lady.
But the sex is never portrayed as her being “taken advantage of.” She always enjoys it and is a willing participant. Even when she matures she doesn’t suggest that any of the men were wrong to frick her or that she had any regrets about it. Throughout the movie she’s portrayed as being liberated and gaining power through sex. She’s not a victim.
Did we watch the same movie? Her poor decisions, including the fricking, frick up her life incessantly. She's always ready with the next step forward but the steps are always fricked up.
>Did we watch the same movie? Her poor decisions, including the fricking, frick up her life incessantly.
Clearly not, because this simply isn’t accurate. Watch the movie again.
Oh yeah like the time she ran away with an insane lawyer and ended up trapped at sea? Or when she gave away all the money to some sailors and ended up homeless in Paris? So she had to become a prostitute and live with a boss who'd randomly bite her?
She was happy to be a prostitute, it wasn't her money she gave away, she felt better having given it away and she had reserves on top of it. The only decisions she makes that harm her and she seems unsatisfied with are sticking with Ruffalo as long as she did and maybe going back with her husband.
She's the hero. Of course, she's going to take her suffering in stride.
She takes the suffering of being kidnapped and being back with her husband in stride, there just is no suffering at the brothel or in the early stage of her time with Ruffalo, and despite his kidnapping of her, she ultimately makes the most of her time on the ship anyway.
>there just is no suffering at the brothel
BITE! WEIRD UGLY DUDES! BITE! HANDSOME DUDE WHO HATES HIMSELF FOR HAVING SEX! BITE! DISSASIFACTION! BITE!
You’re COPING.
>no counterargument
I accept your yield
There’s no use arguing with a person who’s already made up his mind.
The better question why is defending this film so important to you? It will be forgotten in a couple of months like all other quirky indie schlock anyway. So—what’s you’re angle?
>defending this film
Point me to the post where I defend this dull movie.
>I’m not defending anything! 😉
The movie is bad. It's bad because it's boring, not because of some weird sexual obsessions Cinemaphile's hivemind has developed.
>I’m not like the other anons! XD
>I dislike this movie for the RIGHT non-schizo reasons.
>>I dislike this movie for the RIGHT non-schizo reasons.
This except unironically
The biting is hardly suffering, the brothel owner is ultimately caring and she has a positive relationship with Bella. She doesn't like that she has to have sex with weird ugly dudes but makes the most of it anyway and it is, at its worst, just a slight unpleasantness for her and she finds amusement in the novelty of the different men. If she didn't like being a prostitute she wouldn't proudly declare herself the means of her own production in response to Ruffalo berating her, she sees no shame in being a prostitute, she's not suffering through it just for the money, she's contented there.
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Your premise is false because you're suggesting her time at the brothel was suffering when she was clearly happy to be there, and what aspects of it she didn't like she managed to make the most of still.
>she managed to make the most of still
>she was clearly happy to be there
Yes. She liked sex and was happy to make money doing so. She did not like not having the choice of who she slept with, but learned to make a positive out of this negative by getting to know her clients and enjoying the novelty of each different customer.
It says it right here
She wasn't happy to be there. She made the most of it.
She was happy to be there, there was just one aspect of it she didn't like which she didn't even have to suffer through because she found a way to spin it into a positive. Assuming she disliked the entire experience when she got into it specifically because she was happy to have sex for money after trying it out and she went on to state she was a prostitute with pride is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Even if she hadn't managed to turn the one aspect of it she was discontent with into a positive, she still would not have been suffering through her time as a prostitute.
>see, children? it's not a bad thing if someone forces you to have sex with them! think of it as a new experience! make the most out of your situation! see the novelty of getting dicked in the ass and/or pussy by disgusting men!
totally not pedo coded
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>keep a stiff upper lip, son! that's a good boy! now bend over a little...yeah, ooooh~
I didn't say anything about it being pedophile-coded or not, I'm just saying her time at the brothel was portrayed positively, not as a trial for her to suffer through.
She doesn't like being there. She makes the most of it.
She’s clearly having the time of her life with her socialist lesbo lover by the time Ruffalo shows up again.
If she doesn't like being there why does she enjoy her first time there, embrace the role in her application, have a good time with her customers and proudly declare herself as a prostitute, glad to have left Ruffalo behind?
She. Makes. The. Most. Of. It.
She makes the most of the one aspect of the job she doesn't like, and in turn ends up enjoying even the one thing she didn't like about it on top of all she did. Again, I'd like to hear what you think she was doing proudly declaring herself a prostitute and being happy to leave Ruffalo behind if she was actually suffering the whole time. Do you think she was yearning for him to whisk her away, even though she could leave whenever she wanted and then did leave when she wanted?
The first time Ruffalo and Emma have sex, he interrupts her playing with blowing bubbles (child-coded behavior).
It was 100% intentional. You may not have noticed it, but your brain did.
>the protagonist is a little girl in an adult's body who goes around having sex with people
>unintended
lmao no, because
therefore it depicts pedophilia as ultimately a good thing
/misc/ has corrupted your brain
Feel free to explain how I'm wrong.
frick off leave Black person
Troon nonce absolutely SEETHING
Satanic movies thread??
i don't care about the plot i just want to see Previouslybestemma boobs.
>frick prepubescent girl 24/7
>she grows up to become a feminist prostitute
lmao
I've been seeing a lot of people saying the sex scenes in this aren't supposed to be glamorized or portrayed positively, but I don't get where they're coming from. She's never remorseful over it, not enjoying herself or suffering any consequences from it, the worst being that she doesn't want to sleep with every freak that walks into the brothel, which she can tolerate anyway. The only sexual moment that felt like it had a negative portrayal to me was Ruffalo coming onto her when she was blowing bubbles, seeing as the being enamored by blowing bubbles was a very infantile act so it felt like it was emphasizing her still being a child then.
I still did like the movie overall even though I didn't especially care for its theming, but the sex, even though I personally think it distracted from more interesting parts of the premise as it went on, felt like it was supposed to be an empowering and enlightening experience for her almost the whole way through.
The film pretends menstruation, STDs, and pregnancy don’t exist. Promiscuity is portrayed as 100% positive and empowering, with the only downside being the inability to choose a partner when whoring yourself our.
Not him after Godwin removed the baby I feel like it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for him to perform a quick hysterectomy while he was there. Also Max does bring up the subject of STDs when Bella returns to London.
but after* rather
Yeah I assumed that being a re-animated corpse might affect fertility
The movie absolutely portrays prostitution as empowering women and it’s just cope to suggest otherwise. It’s not subtle on this point.
Not to mention it also has muh heckin’ valid lesbos. Redditcore.
Pro-pedo crap.
Ivan thread
Nonce post
Glad I'm not alone in finding this movie creepy.
And I like Lanthimos
Go on Letterboxd and you’ll see plenty of women finding it creepy. The whole thing seems to be some weirdo male groomer fantasy of grooming a child into becoming a sex worker.
I'm in two minds about it. On the one hand I really like how it's made, the sets, the score, how Mark Ruffalo's character ended up in an institution because of a moronic woman. But the whole sex thing with her was incredibly creepy, especially in the beginning when she's even less developed mentally.
>how it's made, the sets, the score
Do you dig the generic A24 aesthetic complete with the minimalist violin score? We’ve had at least two other movies with a similar vibe in 2023.
That it's creepy doesn't bother me so much in itself, though I do find it odd how it feels both aware that she's still infantile when Ruffalo takes her away and still shows her getting fricked by him as a general awakening to the fullness of life in general, but I just think the sex-focus took away from the film in a broader sense because there's a lot more she could be experiencing about life in general but it just always goes back to sex. When I think of the more memorable parts of the film I think of her exploring Lisbon or the part in Alexandria or when her husband came back and her autonomy was being discussed in a way beyond just having her display it by having sex. I think her being obsessed with sex to start was fine because it's a base impulse and it made sense that with her reduced intelligence she would pursue hedonism, as she did with all the food she was eating too, but then she just kept on doing it while just dabbling in anything else like reading until she's called back to London in the end.
The focus on sex just got tired for me after a while and the glimpses of her interfacing with any other facet of life always felt like they were getting cut short to focus on her sexual autonomy again which I ended up finding more boring than creepy in the end. I also don't know if it was intentional, but it felt almost like a parody of middle-upper class white women with her going from whoring herself out as self-exploration, pouring her heart out for those in need and doing nothing about it than give money to others who won't use it to actually help those in need, spin the whoring as an act of intellectualism and then settle down and marry some guy who'll look past it when you're done having your fun.
>bring in a totally unrelated thing to counter an argument no one was making
Why do twittertards always do this?
she's right, Big is incredibly fricked up looking back at it.
Guys having sex young doesn’t frick them up like it does for women, as long as it’s straight sex ofc.
>this is nu-Cinemaphile mentality
Absolute embarrassment.
Far superior anti-male kino coming through
I love the antichrist because it makes christians (middle aged men who believe in fairytales) shid and piss their pants in impotent anger.
>I love the antichrist because it makes christians (middle aged men who believe in fairytales) shid and piss their pants in impotent anger.
>I hate the Antichrist.
>chantard pretending to be a christcuck
Cringe. Movie is still israeli trash though.
>Everyone, from the director to the actors to the critics hail the movie as a triumph of the notion of self-discovery through unconstrained sexual activity
>A not-so subtle point is that the protagonist gets constantly fricked by myriad of strangers from a very young age (as in, while having the mind of a toddler)
>"THE MOVIE IS NOT ABOUT PEDOPHILIA YOU CHRISTIAN CHUDS"
they are trying to pull off a Jimmy Savile: if I make blatant pedo jokes publicly then people won't think I'm an actual pedo
I get it
>anons are repressed pedophiles
>projected their nonceness onto this anti-nonce movie
>all so they can say "those hollyisraelite pedos are disgusting! (just like me lol)"
I dunno anon, Ruffalo has openly defended pedophilia before. And he's one of the head kid frickers in this movie.
That just tells me the casting director did a great job
Lady Bird for pedophiles.
>hmmm calling them christcucks didn't make them angry
>I KNOW i will call them pedos so I can get my yous
>calling them christcucks didn't make them angry
Of course it didn't. They're pacified pussy whipped effeminate homosexuals. Calling them cucks is like a badge of honor to them.
He’s moved into ‘cuck’ now lmao
the projection of the people defending this movie is astounding
I don’t blame them. The alternative is admitting that they liked a pedo-coded film which would imply they’re also pedophiles. The cognitive dissonance is too strong.
The movie is anti-pedo-coded. It's also a dull movie. This thread (anon's consistent misinterpretation) is more interesting than the movie.
>anti-pedo-coded
You keep saying this but you still haven’t explained why.
Explain how it's pro-pedo-coded and I'll prove you wrong.
It portrays a toddler being sexually abused.
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It has someone with the mental ability of a toddler express how much it loves to orgasm and have people touch its genitalia. The toddler becomes engaged with a full grown man who it later marries but only after learning the world through having sex with multiple over people. She says the job is so she can explore the world while doing little work but all we see is her have sex.
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Having sex with a mature woman who had a babies brain is not pedophilia btw.
I’m glad this movie exists at the same time the Epstein case gets uncovered. It’ll make it easier to cross-reference the names.