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DCbros....are we back?
do we really need two of these threads up with the exact same posts in both?
never left
We're fricking back baby. Thread theme: https://youtu.be/HH1l5okI9mE
Snyderverse prevails
Hell yes.
You think Superman and purple Shazam will ever meat each other
I want him back but I've learned to ignore 'news' like this. I'll believe it (and clap and cheer) when I see an official teaser or trailer.
Based. Just keep Zack 'The Dunce' Snyder far away from it.
Scared MCUck? Yeah ya scared.
KWAB
Don't ever reply to me again Sanjay.
scared of what more mediocre movies? more negetive box office numbers? more cases of DC pajeets seething and coping?
>more negetive box office numbers?
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/58NqIC4QGlwMsHr_35DTog/
seek help for your mental illness, cultist
>adjusted for inflation
Yes. That’s the only proper way to compare economic items
aquaman makes more money than superman or batman
are we in the bad timeline or are warner executives just that stupid??
>or are warner executives just that stupid??
Yes. WB meddled hard with BvS
the people who used to run Warner weren't exactly very bright. the new folks, it remains to be seen
>the new folks, it remains to be seen
At least they seem to understand that they have Superman and it shouldn't be a brand they let flounder. Superman was huge for decades and that popularity didn't even really falter until Superman 3 in the mid 80's.
>Superman was huge for decades and that popularity didn't even really falter until Superman 3 in the mid 80's.
Supergirl and Superman IV done the damage. 3 had Annette O'Tool in her prime and an early version of black Kryptonite.
Where's Joker?
>Where's Joker?
Right here.
Is that supposed to be the Toyman?
Reminder that the Batman was the first WB film to use a 30% uplift in ticket prices, so take 30% off
A what now?
Agreed
Frick you. Snyder is a god.
The god of kino
Both based and correct. Cheers frens.
Snyder can direct but he has to stay far away from the writing desk or any main producer roles, he can nail visuals and have great ideas for VFX shots and how it looks best but his writing is lacking.
>Snyder can direct but he has to stay far away from the writing desk or any main producer roles, he can nail visuals and have great ideas for VFX shots and how it looks best but his writing is lacking.
You say that, but the caliber of writing in BvS and ZSJL makes the collective body of capeshit look like student films.
Getting first place in the special Olympics still makes you a moron.
You are absolutely correct.
You can include MoS in that, too. There's some pretty cerebral stuff going on in that one as well, at least as compares to the "After School Special" "themes" found in the bulk of capeshit.
You can thank Chris Terrio for that.
True, and unfortunately Terrio is tired of franchise movies and getting bullied by the studio, so he's unlikely to return. I don't think Snyder himself can write for shit, and you see this with stuff like Army of the Dead where he's co-writer and the writing is shit. But on the DC films he had good writers taking his ideas and translating them into scripts.
I hope Affleck can get Terrio to come back if he decides to continue playing Batman but I can't blame the guy for being over franchises after BvS, JL, and Rise of Skywalker.
I wonder if what Terrio's actually tired of is dumbass suits asking him to dumb it down to something they can understand. There are multiple strata of metaphor at play throughout BvS, and it's clear to me that WB's incompetent management and marketing departments had absolutely no idea how to promote the film.
Ya that interview he did with Vanity Fair was a great insight into the disconnect between the suits and the creatives. Both the title and the trailers totally misrepresented the kind of movie they were going for.
The title was good but it would have been safer to just keep it dawn of justice to make it look like a justice league prequel rather than give a worlds finest expectation. Also shouldn’t have shown doomsday in the trailer even if it was obvious
>they wasted General Zodd, Batman vs Superman, Doomsday, the Death and Return of Superman, the formation of the Justice League, Darkseid, and elements from Injustice on three (3) mediocre movies that killed DC's attempt at getting an MCU off the ground
i don't know how they did it. some of the best comic book material on the planet, and they just squandered it.
Still can't believe that Gal Galdot is Wonder Woman. She's hideous and looks nothing like her.
>who should play our Amazonian Warrior Princess?
>one of the only characters in the League who *might* be able to beat Clark in a fight
>uhh... how about that 80lb dune coon from the last Fast and Furious?
sometimes i really do wonder if they wanted these movies to perform badly. their choices are so irrational that it almost makes more sense if their goal was to get one over on Disney and "kill capeshit" by making a bunch of bad movies.
You missed a couple things:
>killed Pa Kent
>half assed the Dark Knight Returns
>off-screen Death in the Family
Oh my good heavens! They killed Pa Kent! How dare they, how terrible!
>why?
uhhhhhhhhhh
I think he was probably more referring to the Stop Invincible Son memes and how bad the death was.
Point remains
protip: memes don't make something true
The death of Pa Kent was handled badly in the movie and could have been better.
How so?
"It's not like it was in All Star Superman" isn't a flaw
>all star superman
isn't Jonathan supposed to die of a heart attack, and as a result Clark learns that even with all his power he can't save everyone? the "stop, my invincible son" meme seems like it would stomp all over the original point of the plot since... he could have saved him.
>supposed to
Based on what?
> the original point of the plot
What is that? Again, this movie is not an adaptation of All Star Superman. The point being made here is not the point being made there. This scene isn't about Clark directly learning anything.
>based on what
homie, i didn't read All Star Superman, i don't even know if we're talking about the same story why don't you tell me what my educated guess was based on, comic book didact man.
>why don't you tell me what my educated guess was based on
All Star Superman
The Kent’s both die from a rare disease found in a pirate treasure chest that Superboy found.
It wasn’t until the 1978 movie that Pa Kent died of a heart attack (leaving Ma Kent still alive)
Factually incorrect. The first parents death happened in 1948 far before that Silver Age comic with pirate treasure. It was a heart attack.
Nah. They never said what killed the parents in the golden age. They were just sick in bed
pirate treasure was silver era, first death was in golden era from heart attack
I feel like what they were going for the Kents was different but muddled and they didn't fully get the point across. But in muddling it, it means later Clark/Superman moments feel unearned because of what they are based on. It feels like a waste and doesn't really show us anything about Clark.
>"It's not like it was in All Star Superman" isn't a flaw
He also dies of a heart attack in Geoff Johns Run, New 52, Death of Superman and the Golden Age in 1948 (issue 53)
Clark learning he can't save everyone and has to make choices that determine who lives and dies and the limits of his power is more interesting. The problem with Snyder is most of his scenes of Clark show fricking nothing and have no depth apart from visuals.
Early on there is a montage of Clark traveling, he destroys some guys truck for being sexist/rude to a waitress. What's this suppose to show us? That this Clark overreacts and puts a telegraph pole through their truck? Then Clark is on a fishing boat and jumps off to save people on a burning oil rig. Again, it shows little. A simple rewrite expansion of that scene could easily have added meaning to that moment:
>Clark tries to convince the Captain to go closer, he says no, he jumps in the water.
>Clark doesn't know the limits of his powers but is willing to push them to save people, risking himself.
>Clark saves the oil rig workers but realises there is no where for them to go.
>Suddenly the fishing boat captain arrives, inspired by him to save those people.
>Explosion happens, he is thrown into the water, the boat get aways.
Instead we are given a meaningless visual scene that says nothing and that is representative of all this other stuff.
>This scene isn't about Clark directly learning anything.
And that's the problem with Snyder. He learns nothing. Comic book shit is about characters and character arcs. Superman's arcs are all muddled and a bunch of these scenes show us nothing. And that's a problem.
>Clark learning he can't save everyone and has to make choices that determine who lives and dies and the limits of his power is more interesting.
No it isn't. This scene is about establishing Jonathan as the exemplar of human strengths and weaknesses, to be alter contrasted with Zod as the example of Kryptonian strengths and weaknesses, forming the two poles that Clark has to find a balance between to become Superman. That's much more interesting and thematically integral than "In this scene Clark learns that he can't perform impromptu heart surgery".
>Early on there is a montage of Clark traveling, he destroys some guys truck for being sexist/rude to a waitress. What's this suppose to show us?
It reaches back to the same fundamental conflict that runs through the whole film, it demonstrates that despite his abilities Clark is vulnerable to the same fallibilities as humans i.e. rage, in the same category as Jonathan's uncertainty and fear driving his poor judgements. These scenes aren't really meant for Clark, he's not supposed to consciously look at them and learn from them, they're meant for us in the audience, to illustrate the journey Clark is taking through the movie. And that was Zack's biggest mistake, expecting people like you to look and see what you're being shown, he should have recognised that people don't know how to watch movies any more.
How many of the complaints about Stop Invincible Son have you seen that weren't based on Clark's ability to solve the problem? It's never about character dynamic, it's never about technical considerations of how the scene was filmed, it always just boiled down to "well if I was Superman, this is how I would have saved the day, so he should have done that instead". Films aren't just for showing people solving problems.
>two poles that Clark has to find a balance between
gaaaaaaaayyyyy
you take that back or I'll hunt you down and suck your dick so good it'll ruin orgasms for you for the rest of your life
>expecting people like you to look and see what you're being shown
The typical memetic response from a Snyder troll claiming that everyone is dumb and didn't get it and that Snyder is big brain. The problem is everything you're saying was not in anyway shape or form, actually implied by the movie and built up by its themes. It is just meta textual magnifying glass attempts at reading into depth that wasn't there.
>"In this scene Clark learns that he can't perform impromptu heart surgery".
This is just trolling and bait as no one said it was that at all. Don't claim to be intelligent and then throw such pitiful strawman back at people.
>It reaches back to the same fundamental conflict that runs through the whole film, it demonstrates that despite his abilities Clark is vulnerable to the same fallibilities as humans i.e. rage, in the same category as Jonathan's uncertainty and fear driving his poor judgements.
Yet the film didn't do that and didn't run that theme through the whole movie. The only other rage like scene is the end, where he is forced to kill Zod. So claiming it runs through the whole film is factually incorrect. It is one tiny vignette in an overall part of Clark travelling. It was not brought up again. You're taking a dumb aside that Snyder did and expanding an ant hill into a mountain.
>Films aren't just for showing people solving problems.
Where did I say that? I didn't. Films like this are about characters and character arcs and the one we got was very poor. Everything you say is a meme.
>Yet the film didn't do that and didn't run that theme through the whole movie
It fricking did! It does it when he's a kid and he barely controls his rage when the other kids pick on him by mangling the fence post. It does it with Jonathan's death, it does it with the truck. It does it after Zod's ultimatum when Clark doesn't know what he should do. It's not just about rage, it's about the whole gamut of human psychologiocal weaknesses - rage, fear, panic, indecision, selfishness, instinct & emotion versus logic. It's the whole point of the film. It's what snapping Zod's neck is about, Clark realises in that moment that all the emotional baggage he has related to Zod, to Krypton, to his lifelong yearning for belonging, ultimately it didn't matter because he had to step up and do what had to be done, that's what being Superman is about.
Yet again, the film didn't inform that, because for most of those scenes Henry Cavill was cold and robotic. And again, you change the goalposts "it wasn't just about rage guy". The truth is so much of this is pop culture analysis. You laugh when Youtube video essayists dig deep into some pleb MCU movie and then you do the same shit with this. They completely muddled Clark Kent, him popping up at the Daily Planet at the end was meta "well he's gotta end up there" and had nothing to do with Clark as a character, who he was or what he was doing. It was "just as expected" and that is Snyder's style throughout the whole film. He did the Zod death simply because he wanted an origin of "where his no killing came from" and not because he was building up Clark's motivations from the start of the film. You're looking at disparate filmmaking and creating connections yourself.
> the film didn't inform that because for most of those scenes Henry Cavill was cold and robotic.
So I just, what, conjured it out of thin air? For what reason? Why would I make up reasons to like a film? I gave you the examples of this thread running through the film, and again - it was shown to you, you didn't see it, you chose not to see it. It has nothing to do with Henry's performance, all you need to understand those scenes for what they are is contained within them.
>And again, you change the goalposts "it wasn't just about rage guy"
I changed nothing, the very first assertion I made to this point was using Jonathan's death, there's no element of rage in that, it's panic and instinct at play. Negative human emotions and psychologies, the greatest weakness of an invulnerable man.
And now I see you shifting your own goalposts swiftly away towards Clark at the Daily Planet you fricking hypocrite. Never post on my fricking board again.
>So I just, what, conjured it out of thin air?
You took what was there and added fake motivations on it and built up themes to try and claim it was all on purpose and built up when it wasn't.
>It has nothing to do with Henry's performance
Anon, films exist as an overall thing, you can't pick and choose and discount things because it doesn't fit your view. Talking about his performance and what it adds or takes away is perfectly valid. And dismissing this is like saying "no it doesn't count".
>And now I see you shifting your own goalposts swiftly away towards Clark at the Daily Planet
Me giving another example is not a goal shift. You claimed rage was a big motivating factor throughout the film, I said it wasn't and only in a few moments, so your response was to expand out rage to all those other factors too. You moved the goalposts there.
I think Smallville done it better, his heart condition got worst after Jor-El gave him power to stop Red Clark and in episode 100, Pa Kent die because Jor-El has warned Clark if he try to bring Lana back,there will be consequence.
>stop invincible son
this shit will never not be hilarious to me. Clark has multiple abilities that are perfect for creating a momentary distraction so he can use his powers around normies. i swear that shit was in every other episode of Smallville. lol
The Pa Kent death scene isn’t hard to understand if you’re able to look over your own bias and listen to what the movie has been hammering down the entire time. Pa Kent didn’t think his one life was worth revealing Clark to the world because it would change everything and throw everyone into upheaval. Whereas the heart attack death was the lesson of muh you can’t save everyone this death was about the cost of inaction and the result of a world without Superman. It strengthens Clark’s resolve in the future to save people and eventually become Superman as he doesn’t want what happened to him to happen to anyone else. After Pa Kent’s death Clark goes soul searching and still hides what he is per Pa Kent’s wishes but he can’t help himself and keeps saving people, he’s not sure what he’s supposed to be or what he should exemplify. At the end of his journey he meets Jor-El who stands opposite to Pa Kent and provides explanation giving clarity. Clark finally knows what he can be, what he’s meant to be, so he steps out of the ship dawning his heritage and finally revealing himself to the world as Superman.
And so much of that is a bad adaptation and not Superman.
>Pa Kent didn’t think his one life was worth revealing Clark to the world because it would change everything and throw everyone into upheaval.
And yet the scenes with Pa Kent were far too muddled so it feels like you're taking more than what was on offer.
The big problem with the different approach to the Kents was that there wasn't enough of it done well enough to make any real point. So people like you pour depth into it.
>And yet the scenes with Pa Kent were far too muddled
If you have your own idea for pa kent then yeah this version will muddle that but it was consistent and clear within itself. Take the “maybe” supertards like to yell about, if pa didn’t believe saving the kids right he would’ve said so, he was trying to get Clark to understand the effect his actions could have “you saw how Pete’s mom reacted”. It’s not only nailed into the story by pa but other character’s as well like Perry’s “could you imagine how people would react”. The real kickoff for the theme though is BVS, we see how Superman and his actions have affected the world and different people, Bruce, Lex, the wheelchair guy. Some love him, some hate him, some (like the senator) simply want the truth.
It really comes down to subjectivity vs objectivity. Superman fans often don’t know what they want and are full of shit, up there with the One Piece fans. There’s the “muh heart attack teaches he can’t save everyone” and “HE ISNT A GOD” but then hold him up to impossible standards of perfection, having to save absolutely everyone and looking out for every single collateral, going as far to blame the entire metropolis destruction on him. And then there’s that green car scene in Superman and Lois that they parade next to the adjacent comic panel, even though that panel was Superman smashing the car against a cliff.
Man of Steel was objectively good, perfect even, but it’s not for everyone, some seek a different representation of Superman. The approach Nolan, Goyer, and Snyder had was a realist one which is opposite from the fundamental 1930s cool fantasy comics for kids but it’s kino. The traditional Superman is best served as a period piece, as for modern Cavill is the best and Zaslav better keep him
A couple of reasons, actually
>offing Clark's parents in general is unnecessary
>his death teaches Clark the lesson to not reveal himself, he then goes on to spend the rest of the movie revealing himself
>it would have been more effective to build their relationship further, he dies before Clark even becomes Superman, he can't ask his dad for advice on superhero matters, heaven's above they have to resurrect him in the very next film because they realised this
>All Star Superman you dirty pajeet
totally fair additions, i completely forgot they did the dead Robin thing too. goddamn.
>I wonder if what Terrio's actually tired of is dumbass suits asking him to dumb it down to something they can understand.
It's more the execs wanted JL to be an action comedy for all ages. Keeping the MOS/BvS tone was not possible under the previous leadership.
It's an old argument. Disney/Marvel makes by the numbers capeshit, never taking chances and always making sure to give you a laugh at the expense of any meaningful storytelling. WB/DC on the other hand takes those chances. With Hamada and especially Geoff Johns we have been getting Marvel style films and they have mostly been a failure. It just does not work with DC to be a comedy.
You can make a comical Superman movie, but you have to do it with the Silver Age incarnation of the character, which is precisely what Donner did. You limit Superman to being a "golly gee whiz" cornball do-gooder with a heart of pure gold and you drop him into a deeply jaded, cynical world. The problem is that only works once, much like how you can turn Thor into a braindead dudebro douchebag once, but it starts wearing thin rather quickly.
The modern incarnation of the character, at least as written back in the 80s-90s, is nuanced, real, and deeply human, and giving people anything less than that is selling him short.
>written back in the 80s-90s, is nuanced, real, and deeply human, and giving people anything less than that is selling him short.
This is why I prefer Dean Cain and Tom Welling's version of Superman. For Lois and Clark in the 90's the show made the world around Clark campy but kept Lois and Clark real and relatable.
I agree. Somehow they got away with introducing a time-traveling HG Wells as a semi-regular who then reluctantly teamed up with a villain from the future and made it seem like just another day at the office. It was great.
>a time-traveling HG Wells as a semi-regular who then reluctantly teamed up with a villain from the future and made it seem like just another day at the office.
That's pretty much how Superman should be and why TV is best for the character. Tyler's Superman doesn't work because it's trying to be a movie and also trying to distance itself from the arrowverse. An ideal scenario for me is having Cavill's Superman have an episodic TV show on HBO and then have him appear in JL or other solo movies just to tie the universe together. This way we can flesh out his version of the character more.
Snyder hasn't written anything since Sucker Punch
one scene from sneeder has more artistic quality than the entire mcu post-iron man. he just needs competent producer execs that don't purposefully mess everything up with their braindead greed.
Nailed it.
i can't the snyder fumbles it again with the same mistakes and you capeshit keks lap it up
Snyder won. He won.
>Snyder won
he brought his dead daughter back to life?
Snyder had 6 more movies and then we would have gotten the Superman everyone knows. You cant rush his character growth
based
now they just need to bring zack "the god" snyder back
>Tyler Hoechlin
He's too small. And Lois and Superman show is boring as hell.
>Tyler Hoechlin
He's a queer
And? Superman is gay.
Nope. Your tumblr fan fic will be over soon.
What are those faces? KEK! Even if American comics weren't woke, I still wouldn't read them because those idiots have no talent at all. Franco-Belgian all the way.
For me, it's japanese, the real masters of the medium.
>you have to read it backwards
they're hacks
Are you one of those turn your brain off weirdos?
Tyler is a TV soap opera tier actor.
Henry is a real movie star.
Sigh. The chuds won.
>Tyler Hoechlin
He doesn't look like Superman
Henry's portrayal was the one thing I liked out of the Snyderverse. Affleck is drunk and fat as frick, Momoa is a pedo, Ezra is a loony troon and Gadot can't act for shit. Flush the frickin' lot except for Henry.
Affleck lost weight. He was only bloated in the Whedon cut of Justice League.
He looked super fit/thin recently in that new pic with Momoa
>the constant face of tiredness
I don't think Ben ever recovered from the divorce. Say what you want about him tapping latina pussy left and right, but Garner was wife material and Ben blew it.
He looks tired because of all the sex he has with JLo.
Why is Josh Brolin laughing like that
Jesus Christ someone please just lock Affleck in a room where he can't get access to booze and latinas for a few months. Let the man rest.
He was fitter in the Synder Cut new scenes he shot and he looked like garbage and sounded/acted like garbage.
Hell never be able to do what he did in BvS again. He's lost it.
>WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME
Affleck looked great in BvS and acted decent in it. But for some reason hes the ability to look, sound and act like he did in that movie.
Most of "Man of Steel", acting included, is good all around minus "stop my invincible son"
I was even okay with neck snap because a Krypton that doesn't like your planet shouldn't have ANY chance of coming back to nuke it all.
>Why not use Tyler Hoechlin?
Because they already stated in his show that his universe is not the same universe as other DC stuff. Its not even the same universe as the Arrowverse shit.
JK Simmons is J Jonah Jameson in the MCU and Raimiverse yet Tom Holland is Spider-Man in the MCU and Tobey Maguire is Spider-Man in the Raimiverse. First example that comes to my mind.
And DC will never do that some of stuff because then they'd actually have to pay out money to other people. They're struggling as it is, which is why they do shit like completely shelve 90 million dollar movies just for a tax break.
WAY too many pajeets on Cinemaphile these days
also brazilians, mexicans and argentinians
cope whitey
>I hate this news. Why not use Tyler Hoechlin?
Tyler Whochlin?
Why do you morons still care about capeshit?
cuz social media says so
don’t, only care about the films of the American auteur Zach Snyder
Fricking based. I'm hype as hell for Rebel Moon.
this snyder is basically big budget art-house kino
People keep posting Twitter screencaps about capeshit on Cinemaphile. Therefore, it must be important and I must pay attention.
Capeshit is the only thing that people talk about these days. Wake me up when the next big movie trend comes to surface.
Why would you want to be awake for the next trend if the implication is that you dislike trends?
For the same reason you're all here, because you can't get enough of israeli propaganda
They should go back to the 50's aesthetic. This new, grungy superman doesn't work. The most interesting thing about superman isn't that he's an all-powerful god-like creature, it's his humanity. The entire comic is overplayed and tired af. No one knows what to do with him in a modern context. His superpowers should be ancillary to the show. Make it about him being an investigative journalist. It should stand on its own without the need for any magic eye lasers. If that sells, then build from there. I liked the idea of him fighting batman but that movie was a fricking disgrace.
Just make him like DCAU's Superman.
>should
>should
>should
go back, homosexual
based
This is the go to midwit complaint about Snyder Superman. Snyder set up a universe where Superman is in fairly new and hasn't faced too many existential threats to himself yet. If the Snyder kinoverse we're to continue, we would've seen that Superman would be controlled by Darkseid only to be redeemed by Batman. Then Supes becomes the boy scout we all know and love.
Snyder set up the whole "Evil Superman" trope that has been done a thousand times before and you all act like it isn't shit.
>This is the go to midwit complaint about Snyder Superman.
>Then Supes becomes the boy scout we all know and love.
Why is it that when other adaptations do stuff wildly different you all get mad at the casting, racebending and completely changing characters. Then when Snyder does a super divisive bad adaptation of Superman you endlessly defend it as deep?
Who inspires him to become Superman? Because in Snyder's movie his parents constantly tell him he owes the people nothing and shouldn't reveal himself. Then he looks miserable while saving people. Snyder can't set up motivations to save his life. So when Superman actually sorta tries acting like Superman, it feels unearned because nothing set it up. Snyder set up a Superman who would do nothing.
But you act like this is good because he is building towards it and just taking his time? Then in the very second movie he does Death of Superman? Does this imply a man building towards boy scout Superman? Not at all.
Cope. You're going to get a movie where the Kryptonians (who will all be black) seeded life on earth from a black supremacist who believes in Yakub.
*Black supremacist writer
>DC is STILL trying to make these stupid movies
Just give up already ffs.
Because Cavill is Superman. I like Hoechlin's show and all, but he's no Cavill. Also, they're portraying very different places in his character arc.
good
keep snyder far away
Does this mean he's out as James Bond or can he can do both?
Has he been casted as Bond already?
Even as a child, I never really liked Superman, I thought he was boring. But somehow, Henry made him seem interesting. He captures both the humanity and that sort of naivety of Clark Kent, and the unstoppable physicality of Superman. I really can't see anyone else pulling it off as well.
Because he’s fricking ugly.
Will it continue where Snyder left off though?
Snyder really made an awesome character with Steppenwolf more creativity than most directors these days
How so? He's just as generic as every other Justice League or Avengers alien villain.
It amazes me how Snyder managed to take Steppenwolf, of all villains, and turn him into a guy who was simultaneously cruel, arrogant, and menacing, yet somehow still pitiable. In the comics, he's as two-dimensional as they come.
uhhh... i'm pretty sure he was in the first Thor movie.
Tyler Hoechlin got mogged by Routh Supes so hard that got laughed.
Yeah he look impressive in the Kingdom come suit. Should've brought back Routh.
Tyler plays a great Clark/Superman but he just doesn't have the look especially for films. Just compare him to Brandon Routh in the scenes they did together and you'll see what I mean
Tyler isn't a bad Superman but Cavil makes a better film Superman. my only problem with any of the Synderverse people is they won't really do for a reboot with a ten year plan.
a 50 y/o Superman, 60 y/o Batman and 50 something Wonder Woman.
I'd love to see a nice send off for the Synderverse folks but I really can't see them in a ten year plan.
>have thing that works really well
>incels still manage to get mad about it
Who the frick are you talking about? Some silly homosexual?
>Why not use Tyler Hoechlin?
Because Zaslav saw this and is settling for Cavill if it's possible.
Tyler lost the moment this crossover was filmed.
She can look at both Clarks at the same time
Welling is such a fricking tank holy shit
you dont mix tv and movies. it's fricking moronic to even want it
>Tyler Hoechlin
because he looks nothing like a Superman
I thought Deadline said Coates Black personman project was still in dev
Superman is BLACK
Snyderverse is back you dumb benchod
imageine still careing about fricking remakes of remakes capeshittery.
how high is your threshold for hurting yourself like this ?
mom and dad are worried , pls come home.
shouldn't you be watching The Sopranos or Band of Brothers with my Grandad?
>Supermutt and his goofy-eyed girlfriend
that show is fricking terrible. the CW have done an incredible job of making DC look like a frickin' joke. almost as incredible a job as the film department at Warner Bros. i grew up with JLU and the DCAU, there is no fricking excuse for how badly these characters have been portrayed in live action.
I don't know why DC didn't borrow more from their animations for live action stuff.
Fox did it with X-Men and it worked pretty well.
I've always thought Justice League Doom would be great for live action in terms of the tone and characterization.
Frick Cyborg though.
It would be perfect for Justice League 2. But you need solo movies of all significant members.
>Batman
>Superman
>WW
>GL
>Aquaman (could be introduced in JL though)
>you live in a timeline where a live action adaptation of The Boys is better than our adaptations of the Justice League
imagine taking such an edgelord comic book and making it more compelling than a story about Batman and Superman being manipulated into going to war with each other by Lex Luthor. holy fricking shit, everyone at Warner Bros should be fired.
>Why not use Tyler Hoechlin?
Because Cavill is better.
It is confirmed. The Ankler casually did a report on it.
How much money are they going to spend on Affleck and Cavill to lock them in for 10 years? The actors don't even want to do it, and will only do so for the big money. Just fricking reboot it with younger hungry actors.
Giant Freaking Robots - i know, i know - came out with a bogus rumor months ago that WB offered 30 mi to get Ben Affleck back.
>WB offered 30 mi to get Ben Affleck back.
That sounds like for just one movie, not 10 years
>Why not use Tyler Hoechlin?
No one outside of moronic Cinemaphile comfygays like him. Go back to your shitty board.
Everyone in town is aware of Zack Snyder being back as a consultant and the main culprit for it is someone most people, even Snyder fanboys wouldn't guess...
The internet will be funny in the upcoming weeks.
Care to give us a hint?
I'll just say: it was James Gunn.
>James Gunn
Not surprised if it is him to bring Snyder back. He should also bring in Michael Rosenbaum while he is at it.
DC isn't capable of making intelligent decisions. Honestly it's like the put up a board with possible decisions and let a drunk gorilla go pick one and that's what they go with.
>drunk gorilla
god fricking damn it, i should have known who was behind this.
it's actually Gorilla Todd his moronic cousin,
>Executives expected Man of Steel to do Avengers numbers.
>Panicked and decided no Man of Steel 2 or build up things but made Batman v. Superman.
>By the time it really gets back to them how divisive things are Justice League has already been in production for a while.
>Use excuse of Snyder's daughter's suicide to force him out.
>Justice League is awful.
>They all start prepping for an inevitable new slate.
>Then Aquaman does a billion.
>DCEU limps on.
>Merger happens.
>All these cuts and changes happening.
>Still can't seem to decide on direction and seem to want to use current slate in some capacity instead of clean slate.
>Really they just need to copy Phase 1 Marvel, build up films towards a team up, like what they should have done IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>But capeshit is literally on a downward spiral anyway.
Its like poetry.
Cavil's a cool guy and quite literally looks like Superman. I don't care about cape movies but he looks like good casting to me.
What happened to black superman
Cancelled by Zaslav I think
Nobody asked for it, it wasn't going to make money, so it's been cancelled.
Why?
I hope Henry says give me 20 million or no go. Synder and Co completely fricked Cavill over after Man of Steel.
SIRS
>not a single indian there
well done sir
i don't waste my time differentiating between browns
The goblin looking dude?
DADDY YES
He never got a good movie. Even in the crossover movies he wasn't written well or was used as a plot device.
Snyder cut and the stinger in Shazam was the only times he was done right.
snyder is only good when he isn't making an adaptation on some pop culture shit