and i have no clue what i have just watched.
the setting makes no sense. there are no meaningful character arcs for 99% of the cast, there is no story to be told. there is barely any conflict, everything is already solved in paul's vision. the movies are filled with mumbo jumbo useless jargon that amounts to frick all. the emperor of the known universe was incompetent and a massive letdown. there were a billion characters that got introduced but they don't do anything except make the world feel bigger than it actually was.
what is the appeal unironically? how was the source material ever considered a sci-fi classic?
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Paul is the dune's universe villain.
He lets those around him commit mass genocide in his name.
His son then becomes a word and opresses humanity for thousands of years so they can learn to survive by themselves however Idaho (a clone of his) saves the day...after thousands of years....
Also for some reason the mainline continues.....
Also Idaho saves the day again
What would you have done in his shoes?
piss?
Everybody (BGs, Emperor, Spacing Guild) subconsciously knew the jihad (race mixing rape) was necessary to prevent the stagnation of the human race. Paul choosing to allow it to occur under the Atreides banner with the name Muad'Dib as their rallying cry didn't mean 61 billion people weren't going to die.
>Paul is the dune's universe villain.
Fricking moron doesn't know about the Golden Path and thinks this is Star Wars
Frank Herbert wrote the Dune stories because they helped him and his wife get in the mood for sex. Duncan Idaho was the fantasy that his wife superimposed over him while he fricked her. Could have also been her bull. They were pretty kinky. Brian Herbert's books failed because he didn't understand that Dune was the result of sexplay between his father and mother, thus his creations were void of all the horny weirdness that made the originals so unique.
>the emperor of the known universe was incompetent and a massive letdown
which is why Paul, the last member of a near-extinguished family can gain control over him.
>everything is already solved in paul's vision
And every vision's end is different than what paul sees
These are the only two bits of criticism here, everything else is useless.
This post is incomprehensible.
nobody understands anything
I dant anderstand. Spanish pls.
denis himself has said dialogue just gets in the way of the movie
so he just does stuff "cause it feels right" aka looks neat/nice/cool/good bad
I don't understand the point of removing the Harkonnens, replacing them with House Atreides and then turning around and immediately attacking House Atreides?
Shaddam and Vladimir thought it would be a lot easier to kill the Atreides when they're on an unfamiliar planet away from their allies in the Landsraad. They were correct.
The only ones who knew Paul was particularly dangerous were the Bene Gesserit and the only ones who knew the Fremen were particularly dangerous were the Spacing Guild, and when the two linked up in secret they were so powerful they could take over the whole universe.
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Can you imagine how well oiled the machines of war are, 8000 years from today? Games of chess lose their meaning entirely with mentats around. Bene Gesserit witches have been controlling kings for centuries. What's not handled very well is the passage of time and the interactions required to make, say, a population of millions of disparate tribes come together for a planetary fight that could change the interstellar landscape. LOTR did this part pretty well.
pfffhahaha (tries to put 2 similar left-foot shoes on both feet)
Imagine being sexually controlled by an old bad wrinkly hag with metal teeth like that for decades/centuries. I’d let all my houses nukes fly if I had to impregnate that disgusting thing in your post
bald*
shut up gayboi
I didn't think about this actually, because the 1984 movie had the witches showing their skulls/brows shaved, which is a Harkonnen trait, but the new movies did not, and since I haven't read the books I was never clear that BGs mated with whoever they believed was useful. (seriously at least one of them fricked Vladimir, who got the worse deal?)
can i have an apple juice box now?
I feel the same way. These movies don't have a story. It's just one pointless scene to the next. It's like the makers of the movie don't even care what the plot actually is
it's a shitty movie and a shitty adaptation
what'd they get wrong
It's too complicated for your small brain. Just accept that you'll never be able to understand
can't wait for all the dunc shilling to end next week
That's alot of words for "Im a giant homosexual with no attention span"
Dune is unadaptable to film. it's too big. too sprawling. too much story is important to leave cut from the runtime. this would've been better served as a 12-18 part miniseries.
The Sci fi miniseries was 1 hour shorter than dunc, and had 1/10th the budget, yet it included more material from the book.
As someone who has read the books, I cannot agree more. I often found myself wondering "Wait, why the frick are they doing this again?" when watching the movie, both water of life scenes in particular being guilty of this. Paul's gaining of the Fremens' acceptance and respect was also entirely glossed over and made the Fremen seem stupid and naive, and further made the movie feel like it was just three hours of cinematic establishing shots strung together by milliseconds of plot points. There's no dynamic between characters at all, just people on screen saying lines. As a result, Stilgar's devotion is nonsensical and the unbelievability of it is just handwaved away with one or two lines about bene gesserit indoctrination. Extremely disappointed in dunc 2, despite the first one being pretty good.
>made the Fremen seem stupid and naive
It doesn't fricking matter. What matters is what's important to the story: their fighting prowess, their ability to survive in the desert and their devotion to Paul, all of which are shown in the movie. Moreover, your criticism isn't even valid when considering the script introduced a religious divide between southern and northern Freemen, which might come into play in Part 3/Messiah and is a possible branch for developing Chani's role into something more (a freedom fighter?)
We're used to snake oil salesman, even traveling RAINMAKERS work to gain locals' trust. Show off their maverick skills, even if fake. ZERO effort in DUNC. The lack of story/relationship development is why it feels like a perfume ad, or long music video sometimes.
>how was the source material ever considered a sci-fi classic?
Why don't you read it instead of basing your assumptions on a terrible modern film adaptation with an absolutely shit screenplay
This is the only part that made sense
these b***hes don't see chani here. the character is literally zendaya for them.
I can barely even remember chani when I think back on the movies. They could’ve removed her entirely and come up with some other prophesy thing and it would be fine
>This ugly mutt keeps getting roles replacing redheads
I don't know who she's blowing, but her blowjob game must be AMAZING
>Chani is supposed to be known for her red hair and blue eyes
Can't see the eyes because this dumb mutt is always fricking squinting, and once again a redhead gets replaced by some ugly nog
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>DESERT SPRING
powerful stuff, a classic in the sci-fi genre.
its more science feudalism, or anti-science fiction. the movies did a good job of simplifying the first book, its all about predestination.
how nearly powerless we are to choose if the choices were made long ago, by others whether friend or foe, and even worse if by you.
it helps if you havent had a lobotomy before watching it.
OP being a gay aside...how cute do you think Feyd and the french ho's daughter is gonna be?