More writers need to adopt this mindset, if delivered with absolute sincerity then even the most ridiculous shit can be accepted.
Nobody would mind all the DEI stuff if instead of saying >It was time, inclusion is needed for this series
They just said >Oh yeah they're from the remnants of Minta Mulla's great Trade Caravan that passed through this region 450 years ago. Many were left behind and formed sub communities within the kingdom, specifically in the Donkurt region.
It would be accepted more.
You can easily insert things without stepping on existing lore. Fictional worlds have <1% of the detail the real world has. Just insert things here and there to help flesh it out >But there weren't black people before, and how come we never heard of this region? >Well this region was a poorer one, and its inhabitants tended to keep with themselves. However due to the stability brought by the actions of the protagonists in the previous film, movement within the kingdom is safer and more frequently seen.
No reason not to either, just a stylistic choice beyond the politics surrounding it.
What stories became better after forced diversity?
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None but quality is not strictly tied to profits.
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JoJos
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2004 Battlestar Galactica with a genderbent main character, lots of women and non whites in the cast blows the original out of the water.
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The writing made it better, adding a bunch of Black folk didn’t
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Well, you asked what show became better after diversity. The fact it became better proves that diversity is not a detriment to the quality as long as the writing is good.
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>whats story became better
ftfm
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“You asked if cars became slower after tying 10 cinder blocks to the roof. Well, we took one car and supercharged the engine, but also tied cinder blocks to the roof. But it was still faster than last year’s model. Guess tying cinder blocks to a car’s roof has no effect on its speed.”
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So, if the writing was bad in BSG, then diversity would be its problem?
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Not unless the poor quality of the writing was directly tied to the injection of diversity
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Can we then agree that diversifying an existing franchise is not necessarily a bad move?
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Improving the writing is a good move, injecting brown people into an existing IP for diversity’s sake isn’t.
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>for diversity’s sake
The purpose is irrelevant. Maybe it's because mr Finberg wants a broader target audience, maybe the writer actually wants to incorporate some not widely known cool story from native American mythology. My point is that diversity in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. It all comes down to how ome handles the subject.
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N:BSG isn't more diverse that O:BSG, so it isn't a relevant example.
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Well, you asked what show became better after diversity. The fact it became better proves that diversity is not a detriment to the quality as long as the writing is good.
OG BSG was very diverse. They made Tigh a white guy for the new one for Pete's sake. And Boomer going from black guy to Korean woman is a lateral move
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Bullet Train, it was cool seeing a bunch of criminals from different cultures all fight. American and british glowies, japanese yakuza, mexican cartel, russian gangsters.
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That’s not really what I meant but sounds like a cool movie, I’ll check it out
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No reason not to either, just a stylistic choice beyond the politics surrounding it.
Minta Mulla was a King from the southern realm of Baginda, renowned for his martial conquests of the surrounding regions. After conquering many of the southern realms he embarked on a great trade caravan that would stretch across much of the known world. Initially started as a way for him to see the world and to spread word of his glories, it quickly brought the attention of the other realms who before thought little of the south. Though his caravan ended in disaster with the king going missing, the world became a much more interconnected place with the Minta Trail being left in his wake, serving as a consistent route for merchants and travelers from all over.
More writers need to adopt this mindset, if delivered with absolute sincerity then even the most ridiculous shit can be accepted.
Nobody would mind all the DEI stuff if instead of saying >It was time, inclusion is needed for this series
They just said >Oh yeah they're from the remnants of Minta Mulla's great Trade Caravan that passed through this region 450 years ago. Many were left behind and formed sub communities within the kingdom, specifically in the Donkurt region.
It would be accepted more.
Actually pretty neat, I wouldn't mind if they did it like this.
This is a direct result of DEI hires. Of course the 20 yo black woman from the ghetto that got a gibsmedat decree has zero interest in Star Wars and the like. Of course she has nothing but contempt for the fact that instead of being given a project about the shit she likes, Disney has her write the 25th entry in a franchise that has been running since the fricking 70s and is all about white boys going on adventures. It was never about her and she hates it. Imagine getting hired to write the reboot of fricking Glee.
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Everything has been mismanaged in every industry for so long now that nobody cares anymore. Get Shaniqua working on the next season of Blackish already and put autists back in control of star wars
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That's the thing, Shaniquas of various colours and sizes already work on both. Josh and Tim have opted to abandon college and make video essays on YouTube instead.
It's amazing the degree that type of stuff activates my autism. I NEED to know what the relations were like between Minta Mulla's people and the existing settlers, did they fight?
Of course they fought. After the Caravan suffered mishaps crossing the Donkurt Mountains many of its soldiers and followers were elected to stay behind so the caravan could continue. Tensions were incredibly high as the newcomers were forced to settle the frontiers of the region. But after their assistance in the great Reptoid incursion 225 years ago they have become more well liked by the locals, allowing the communities to interconnect.
>But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’
>“So everybody’s like, ‘No, he’s gotta be f---ing with us.’ He’s absolutely not. So when something like that happened – in the middle of the campaign, mind you – we have to go back through that entire naming convention again… from scratch.” From that second session, Jet Brody was born. Coincidentally. Jett is the name of Lucas’ son.
>A similar situation arose with Star Wars: The Force Unleashed’s protagonist, Starkiller. “[That name] was only supposed to be a nickname or call sign, not a proper name from the beginning,” a former LucasArts employee says. The development team hoped that Lucas would give Vader’s apprentice a Darth moniker, which at the time, was something that didn’t happen often.
>“The team threw a Hail Mary to George, saying the game would have more credibility if the apprentice had a ‘Darth’ title,” a Force Unleashed team member says. Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. “He threw out ‘Darth Icky’ and ‘Darth Insanius.’ There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say ‘just kidding,’ but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point.”
>this guy is a sleazebag how should I call him? > how about something like.... Sleazebaggano? >hmmm nah too obvious >ok so.... Elan Sel'Sabagno, but his nickname is still Sleazebaggano hehehe >..yeah you still got it Giorgio!
HOLY SOVL
More writers need to adopt this mindset, if delivered with absolute sincerity then even the most ridiculous shit can be accepted.
Nobody would mind all the DEI stuff if instead of saying
>It was time, inclusion is needed for this series
They just said
>Oh yeah they're from the remnants of Minta Mulla's great Trade Caravan that passed through this region 450 years ago. Many were left behind and formed sub communities within the kingdom, specifically in the Donkurt region.
It would be accepted more.
Fanboys would still b***h about MUH LORE
Making random lore changes to insert more Black folk is soulless
Making your protagonist’s best friend an obese alien who runs a 1950s themed diner is sovlful
Wouldn’t expect a mental midget like you to understand
Yes, this is way fanboys bullied Lucas for 20 years.
You can easily insert things without stepping on existing lore. Fictional worlds have <1% of the detail the real world has. Just insert things here and there to help flesh it out
>But there weren't black people before, and how come we never heard of this region?
>Well this region was a poorer one, and its inhabitants tended to keep with themselves. However due to the stability brought by the actions of the protagonists in the previous film, movement within the kingdom is safer and more frequently seen.
Or we could just not force diversity into everything
Why not?
No reason to
Targeting a larger audience.
What stories became better after forced diversity?
None but quality is not strictly tied to profits.
JoJos
2004 Battlestar Galactica with a genderbent main character, lots of women and non whites in the cast blows the original out of the water.
The writing made it better, adding a bunch of Black folk didn’t
Well, you asked what show became better after diversity. The fact it became better proves that diversity is not a detriment to the quality as long as the writing is good.
>whats story became better
ftfm
“You asked if cars became slower after tying 10 cinder blocks to the roof. Well, we took one car and supercharged the engine, but also tied cinder blocks to the roof. But it was still faster than last year’s model. Guess tying cinder blocks to a car’s roof has no effect on its speed.”
So, if the writing was bad in BSG, then diversity would be its problem?
Not unless the poor quality of the writing was directly tied to the injection of diversity
Can we then agree that diversifying an existing franchise is not necessarily a bad move?
Improving the writing is a good move, injecting brown people into an existing IP for diversity’s sake isn’t.
>for diversity’s sake
The purpose is irrelevant. Maybe it's because mr Finberg wants a broader target audience, maybe the writer actually wants to incorporate some not widely known cool story from native American mythology. My point is that diversity in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. It all comes down to how ome handles the subject.
N:BSG isn't more diverse that O:BSG, so it isn't a relevant example.
OG BSG was very diverse. They made Tigh a white guy for the new one for Pete's sake. And Boomer going from black guy to Korean woman is a lateral move
Bullet Train, it was cool seeing a bunch of criminals from different cultures all fight. American and british glowies, japanese yakuza, mexican cartel, russian gangsters.
That’s not really what I meant but sounds like a cool movie, I’ll check it out
No reason not to either, just a stylistic choice beyond the politics surrounding it.
That unironically worked on me. Tell me more about Minta Mulla.
Minta Mulla was a King from the southern realm of Baginda, renowned for his martial conquests of the surrounding regions. After conquering many of the southern realms he embarked on a great trade caravan that would stretch across much of the known world. Initially started as a way for him to see the world and to spread word of his glories, it quickly brought the attention of the other realms who before thought little of the south. Though his caravan ended in disaster with the king going missing, the world became a much more interconnected place with the Minta Trail being left in his wake, serving as a consistent route for merchants and travelers from all over.
Actually pretty neat, I wouldn't mind if they did it like this.
Too many modern writers outright hate everything they have to work on, we need more autists in charge of things.
This is a direct result of DEI hires. Of course the 20 yo black woman from the ghetto that got a gibsmedat decree has zero interest in Star Wars and the like. Of course she has nothing but contempt for the fact that instead of being given a project about the shit she likes, Disney has her write the 25th entry in a franchise that has been running since the fricking 70s and is all about white boys going on adventures. It was never about her and she hates it. Imagine getting hired to write the reboot of fricking Glee.
Everything has been mismanaged in every industry for so long now that nobody cares anymore. Get Shaniqua working on the next season of Blackish already and put autists back in control of star wars
That's the thing, Shaniquas of various colours and sizes already work on both. Josh and Tim have opted to abandon college and make video essays on YouTube instead.
100% true
100% whitey's fault in the end
He was a good friend
It's amazing the degree that type of stuff activates my autism. I NEED to know what the relations were like between Minta Mulla's people and the existing settlers, did they fight?
Of course they fought. After the Caravan suffered mishaps crossing the Donkurt Mountains many of its soldiers and followers were elected to stay behind so the caravan could continue. Tensions were incredibly high as the newcomers were forced to settle the frontiers of the region. But after their assistance in the great Reptoid incursion 225 years ago they have become more well liked by the locals, allowing the communities to interconnect.
You cannot convince me that maclunkey wasnt George just being a spiteful shit because Disney fricked with his OCs.
I almost didn't recognise him without the giant turkey wattle
>entire planet is a single biome
>biome
Kino trope tbqh
>But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’
>“So everybody’s like, ‘No, he’s gotta be f---ing with us.’ He’s absolutely not. So when something like that happened – in the middle of the campaign, mind you – we have to go back through that entire naming convention again… from scratch.” From that second session, Jet Brody was born. Coincidentally. Jett is the name of Lucas’ son.
>A similar situation arose with Star Wars: The Force Unleashed’s protagonist, Starkiller. “[That name] was only supposed to be a nickname or call sign, not a proper name from the beginning,” a former LucasArts employee says. The development team hoped that Lucas would give Vader’s apprentice a Darth moniker, which at the time, was something that didn’t happen often.
>“The team threw a Hail Mary to George, saying the game would have more credibility if the apprentice had a ‘Darth’ title,” a Force Unleashed team member says. Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. “He threw out ‘Darth Icky’ and ‘Darth Insanius.’ There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say ‘just kidding,’ but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point.”
>Darth Insanius
Actually spit out my coffee
I exist in a quantum state of simultaneously believing and not believing every/a single word of this
He was shit-testing them and they all failed.
Never ascribe to malice what can be ascribed to incompetence.
>this guy is a sleazebag how should I call him?
> how about something like.... Sleazebaggano?
>hmmm nah too obvious
>ok so.... Elan Sel'Sabagno, but his nickname is still Sleazebaggano hehehe
>..yeah you still got it Giorgio!
HOLY SOVL
>Greedy bounter hunter is called Greedo
Based George.