I started reading some DC comics and decided it was finally time to check out that universe of movies they just made. This was absolutely terrible. It’s truly embarrassing that anyone defends this gray, bland movie. And the next ones apparently are even worse.
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Frick off, it’s the best superhero origin movie out of all of them. It’s one of the few that actually remains an honest cinematic experience all the way through instead of just leading you to another cynically made piece of shit comic book movie.
It was so dull and exhausting. Zack Snyder is not a talented filmmaker. This movie is very unpleasant.
It's peak cynicism. It's just not pop quippy cynicism.
How?
i assume because "sad faces" , psychological deconstruction, esoteric symbolism, and deep personal introspection is somehow bland acting and lazy writing to him. considering that's usually the arguments given
It's the same thing Marvel does. You're taking something that was originally made for children and you're making it safe for the man-children to enjoy. With Marvel it's ironic detachment, with Snyder it's unironic detachment. His movies are so afraid of saying anything or meaning anything. You can especially tell this when you listen to Zack Snyder talk and see how inarticulate and baffoonish he is.
He claims to be deconstructing these characters but he's not challening them or allowing them to be anything that can be challenged. They're just vapid cardboard cut-outs. Neither an honest interpretation of the characters as they exist in the comics nor a fresh approach to the material.
Man of Steel specifically is worried first and foremost about set pieces. It wants to be a Bruckheimeresque blow-up bonanza with no real thought. But it wants to give the illusion of thought so characters will spout empty lines about the meaning of heroism or wax poetic about the world changing, but we don't actually see it happen. We don't see it explored, we don't see it challenged.
Why build and explore this character, why do something interesting and unique when instead you can just have him push himself off the ground yell like a monkey and launch himself at an equally powered superhuman like he does like 6 times in this movie.
The pinnacle of this approach is in BvS in that scene where Superman is about to give testimony and Snyder goes
>uhhh uhhhhh help uhhhh AND THEN IT GOES BOOM!
So he can avoid giving this character any depth beyond just being a stoic action figure.
I fricking wish it had half the things you listed. IMAGINE if a character in these movies was allowed to be introspective for 5 seconds.
The smallville sequence is good and what the rest of the movie should have been tonally. But outside of that? It's an absence of ideas. A Nolan wannabe from a hack who's done nothing but ape other people's material his entire career.
you are objectively incorrect. and i dont even have to make the argument. here are some people who have already made it for me. frick you, lying ass Black person
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg8Gda_PKkdf0NaoX59KT1oiqoWFGbf37
and here are some of zack snyder's own works since youre incapable of doing due diligence before spouting bullshit about creative intentions
>b-but those are too loooooong 🙁
well you shouldn't be making false claims if you arent willing to study the facts you fricking moron
lmfao
>His movies are so afraid of saying anything or meaning anything.
Man of Steel is about birth and sons.
BvS is about the complexities of the world and wives/mothers.
ZSJL is about unity healing wounds and becoming a father/fathers.
Over-all the movies are about the importance of free will and answering about your choices/actions, be it their good or bad, no matter how tough or unfair it may seen.
It is also about the importance of heritage, culture, and religion in a person's life as a guiding force toward their and an overall better future.
Which is probably why a lot of critics hate these movies.
>It's peak cynicism
Bruh. People get killed. Zod had his chance to stop. He made clear he wouldn't. Clark stalled up to the point where Zod was going to Heat Vision people right in front of his eyes.
>Frick off, it’s the best superhero origin movie out of all of them
Not even close
Word.
I love how Snyder cucks honestly believe he's the only one who ever understood superhero and made a good movie about them, kek. You guys are adorable.
>heh, if only they knew about sam raimi's seinfeld take on spiderman that was btfo'd a few years after it came out by the kick ass movie
>those dumb snyder chuds
>a few years
8 years is not a few, you sad little gay.
>within only 200 years we have gone from an almost paperless society with 40 year life expectancy to the most technologically advanced generation in the post-deluvian era
>but the 3 years between raimiman 3 and kick ass is a REAL BIG gap
>Frick off, it’s the best superhero origin movie out of all of them.
'nuff said
>the best superhero origin movie out of all of them
>one of the few that remains an honest cinematic experience
i especially liked the part where superman's dad tells him that he should have let kids die. or that superman himself lets his father get whisked away by a tornado so as to not expose himself only to later do so to the entire world inside of an IHOP pancake house
Shit was boring af imo. Batman begins, spiderman, and ironman where better
Man of Steel is on par with the Dark Knight.
Fricking A.
Just out of curiosity, what era did you pick up reading? For Man of Steel, I’d recommend Crisis on Infinite Earths era, the unofficial break point being the Silver and Bronze Age iterations of the characters, from there, I’d read the miniseries “Man of Steel,” “World of Krypton” miniseries(both by John Byrne), then “Legends.” That’s basically the territory getting covered by Snyder’s movies.
I actually started reading the stuff they’re putting out now, but I’m branching out in the past. Reading Dennis O’Neil’s The Question now. I’ve heard that Man of Steel miniseries is very good and I want to check that out.
I’d recommend it. The modern revamp is a lot more kitschy than Byrne’s revamp. I wouldn’t exactly call his Clark dour, but he is significantly more taciturn and introspective. He, like Snyder’s Superman, does an awful lot of thinking about what he means to mankind and what his real role is. Another great standalone story that speaks to this is pic-related. It predates the Crisis era by a few years, but it’s a great foreshadowing of the philosophical bend that was on the horizon.
I want to get more into classic DC. I know much less about it than Marvel. Their continuity is way more confusing.
A good rule of thumb to apply is that each era takes place in its own continuity. That’s the way their multiverse functions. And then there are the separate continuities like the Charlton characters like the Question, Captain Atom, etc., and the Fawcett characters like the Shazam family. All of those disparate continuities got merged with the original Crisis, but they also sort of continue on outside the main continuity.
I know - it’s crazy.
OP is the same homosexual who got ratio'd in the other thread.
That was not my post. I don’t think it’s the worst thing ever made but it’s so incredibly bland. The people who try to attribute some sort of symbolism to it are the worst of all.
>The people who try to attribute some sort of symbolism to it are the worst of all.
yeah there's absolutely no symbolism about it at all
>the sephirot justice league t-shirts
>jesus is superman
>the EXCALIBUR snyder cut marketing
>consistently using songs that personally impacted snyder's life
>self-inserts as every main character
>there is no frame or line of dialogue wasted in any of his films
>constant references to classic comics, ancient philosophical texts, classic paintings, etc
>cites Joseph Campbell as main influence
how does he do all that and still get misinterpreted and shit on to such a degree? he is literally 2deep4u
Nailed it.
I am sorry, but you just can't call Man of Steel bland when the MCU's movies exist and are all filmed and made like a low-budget TV show.
People using that "chud" word are the worst. Really dysfunctional people.
Read more Superman, my guy. I recommend it.
>my guy
shut up you fricking gay ass underage Black person and get off Cinemaphile. this is an 18+ only site. dont let mommy catch you on /gif/ on ur way out
Bro, why are you fricking spazzing? Weirdo.
>BREH LIKE FRFR LEE MEE LONE BREH LIKE YOU WEERT BREH
Just stop, you weird frick.
>BRUHHH LIKE FR SHUT UP BRUH STOP TALM BOUT SHIT LIKE BRUH YOU WEERT
Yeah, you're kinda funny, but still a weirdo.
stop posting on Cinemaphile as a teenager you fricking Black person moron
I'm not. You make stupid inferences, hardly a Sherlock Holmes, withcho b***h ass.
>hurrrr i type like a zoomer but i swear im not
go back to your liminal contaiment thread.
I was about to... man, I thought about it
It's unsettlin' to talk about it
>t.
Ignore him. It's probably James Gunn venting because he got grilled by Zaslav.
>zoomie zoom zoom. zoom zoom zoomie zoom zoom
sorry i dont understand what that means. mind translating into legible text?
Is it really you James? It's almost 3am. Go call your buddy Rosenbaum and cry to him.
How come whenever underagegays like you get called out the only way you Black folk save face is to pathetically try to flip the joke like
>OH YEAH WELL IF IM A ZOOMER (which you are) THEN YOU MUST BE [insert extremely specific person]
>WAAAAAAOWWW GUYZ LOOK I GOT HIM CHECK THE SERVER I SENT A SCREENCAP OFF MY IPHONE BREH
The more you deflect the more you confirm who you really are.
suck my wiener Black person yeah sure im james gunn ooo let me go on my twitter and post about little boys or some shit
I will find your mother and coax her into sex.
I will eat your mother's sopping wet pussy.
I hope it's hairy and a little dirty down there so I can take pics of it and text them to you.
I will slowly become more aggressive around the house, and blame any of my wrongdoings on you.
One day, I'll trick you and your mother into coming with me on a road trip to Santa Fey.
On the way there, I intentionally slam into the side of a fuel truck.
With your disgusting bloodline eradicated, I get thanked personally by God and appointed overseer of Cinemaphile.
You are sent to Hell as well as your crossbreeding b***h of a Mexican mother
Alternatively
I will kill myself, and leave a note in your room.
It won't be a confession if guilt or religion.
It will be an extremely detailed description of me sodomizing your mother, and dehumanizing her disgusting body with my words.
Humilated, and alone (your mother killed herself out of the grief of losing me), you decide to sit in the corner and starve yourself to death
Only a pedo would have a vivid imagination like that.
about a grown woman?
>check the thread
>>>this is why The Suicide Squad failed. It was fricking hilarious and well written but wasn't politically safe enough so Twitter destroyed it.
People will just make up random shit for headcanon huh
Go to bed Gunn.
Regardless of how you feel about the comedy (it was cringey and terribly paced), TSS was absolutely politically safe
>Le heckin brown guerilla freedom fighters
>blacksport is a murderer, but he's still trying to be a good black dad for his daughter
>polka dot man is the childhood trauma icon for all people who were told by their moms they cant have tendies on tuesday nights
>harley is a bad guy, but she killed a real life FASCIST because she's a good guy at heart
>THEY KEPT KIDS IN CAGES AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSANE
its like they crossed off a checklist of angles blue haired commies would nut to
I do give gunn props for having the balls to kill boomerang in the first 10 minutes though, this unfortunately left the team completely bland powerwise. FOUR regular humans whose powers are...they shoot real good. Garbage.
yeah I like gunn but that movie was just shit
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You’re not on Twitter, homosexual. I bet you’re also a blue checkmark there, paying Musk money like a little cuck.
t. the guy who got ratio'd
Wrong.
that's exactly how he would respond
Comics all suck. MoS is kino. You are a tastelet and need to get off my board.
nice larp Gunn pajeet you aint fooling anyone
Imagine getting filtered by Man of Steel
kek I love that gif
>how it feels after saying "off-topic" in a Nobody General
>ughh... I shouldn't have had that last taco
does anyone have the Ralph Sepe Jr is a serial killer infograph? would fit well for his poorly hidden thread here
Even HiTop abandoned this shit tier argument. When is Sepe going to move on?
YMS is OP guys don't respond anymore he's using it to fuel his energy when he angerbangs his dog
man of steel
it sucked back then
and it sucks now
>making fun of a huge community of people who raised hundreds of millions for suicide prevention and singlehandedly de-blacklisted a director out of respect for his personal tragedy
you're an apathetic worthless homosexual
Snyder was never blacklisted. He just couldn't convert huge piles of WB money into competitive hits so they stopped using him.
Maybe his fans should have raised hundreds of millions in box office or something.
WB gave him their iconic IPs to play with at the absolute height of the genre's popularity, and he could never deliver the hit of the year with them, not even close.
>hurrr you shouldnt care about a teenage girl tragically killing herself anon!
>you're supposed to care about the IP!
I'm disappointed, and I think your parents would be too..
@188770671
>schizo incel thinks everyone who thinks differently than him is a samegay
Mentally ill redditor. You're too young to be using this site.
>And the next ones apparently are even worse
The next one specifically is historically bad. Man of Steel is at least enough of a generic action movie that it's an okay entertainment and I can see why it has its supporters.
BvS though is an absolute embarrassment for all involved. Might just be the worst movie I've paid to see in theatres. Nobody who says they like that movie is being genuine.
keep seething anon it's funny. like watching a neanderthal scream at a painting
Uh?
typical zoomer cope.
>oh no! they criticized my opinion. what do i say?
>..uh...UH.... MED MEDS HE'S A SCHIZO EVERYONE LOOK AT THE SCHIZO
you know stubbornness and inability to think critically is a mental pattern typically adorned by children and manbabies, right?
What the frick are you talking about, Black person?
ironic
pathetic attempt.
see:
As if I'm watching that shit
I thought snyder cut of justice league was even worse
my favourite cope is that BATMAN v SUPERMAN got destroyed by captain america vs iron man in the box office because it was only the 1st sequel
>Nobody who says they like that movie is being genuine
I watched BvS (ultimate edition with IMAX scenes) well over a year after Snyder Cut got released and it easily became one of my favorite movies of all time.
It only made so much sense that there were people pushing for Snyder's Justice League because of this movie. I don't care about shitty you think bvs was but saying it isn't genuine is the biggest load of bullshit there is.
>black and white films are somehow bad now
*stupid fricking jesse eisenberg lex voice
>you know what the biggest lie in america is senator? it's that power can be innocent
worst fricking dialogue ever, worse than marvel quip garbage. joyless stupid movies
there is no such thing as a good superman or batman movie. both characters are gay
And then everyone clapped
MoS is better than 95% of capeshit. Not that that's a particular high standard. Sounds like you got filtered though.
This is the third thread I have seen today about Snyder's DC films. Is this a targeted shill attack by WB/Gunn?
more like netflix shills making both falseflagging and apologia threads because their synder thing is gonna release soon. they also do kurosawa threads because snyder's new stuff is seven samurai in space
>they also do kurosawa threads because snyder's new stuff is seven samurai in space
Taking Qanon shit to a whole other level
meds now
>shills
>on 4chong
Lol lmao even
Hi James
>they also do kurosawa threads because snyder's new stuff is seven samurai in space
>they also do kurosawa threads because snyder's new stuff is seven samurai in space
Have sex
It doesn't even have a trailer yet, nor was there any new promotional material for over a month. Why would they shill it now?
>they also do kurosawa threads because snyder's new stuff is seven samurai in space
the only question is will it be as bad as alien$ with zombies
I'm already stockpiling popcorn
I literally do not care. Snyder is still saving cinema. AGAIN
I'm pretty neutral on Snyder, he's made a few kinos and a few stinkers, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rebel Moon is at least slightly better than the current Star Wars output.
Which comics were you reading that this movie was somehow more grey? Was it the 90s where the flash died to save the entire world or the 2000s when superman lost all his powers and watched batman murder the entire world then followed the justice league into batle and watched literally every single member but one die and then died himself but time travel and none of that even happened dispite literal years of doom and gloom. Man of only wb had hired a better director to film their snuff films.
I meant the movie is literally gray. It’s almost a black and white film. So ugly.
nah, it's good
>I started reading some DC comics
Hi can you name your favourite superman runs? Cinemaphileumbler can't give me any good recs.
NTA but I'll give you a few as a non-/co/gay
For the Man Who Has Everything and Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? and by Moore
Superman for All Seasons by Loeb
Superman Secret Identity by Busiek
What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way? by Joe Kelly
Lex Luthor: Man of Steel and Superman for Tomorrow by Brian Azzarello
Superman: Last Son by Johns
Superman: Pace on Earth by Paul Dini
Kingdom Come by Mark Waid
Superman: War of the Worlds by Roy Thomas
All Star Superman by Grant Morrison
Already read around 40% of this list. They all isolated standalone stories.
I wanna read run or era about superman with some kind of overarching plot or idea.
that's gay
As far as runs go, I liked Simonson's Man of Steel. Tomasi is recommended by a lot of people but I haven't read it.
I'm not really a Superman fan first and foremost, these are just the ones I know.
There's also Esleworlds like pic related where he becomes Batman that are interesting. In that regard, I would also recommend Superman: The Dark Side, Superman: Kal (middle ages story), The Last Family of Krypton (what if Kal's parents came to Earth with him), The Superman Monster (very similar to Frankenstein)
>Simonson's Man of Steel
thanks
>Superman: War of the Worlds by Roy Thomas
Based. Golden Age Superman needs to make a comeback of some kind. Either as a revival of the Fleischer series or something else.
Whoops, didn't mean to spoiler it.
Green Lantern sound pretty serious too, being compared with True Detective.
I guess we'll see soon enough.
A lot of the stuff they’ve announced sounds promising. I feel like DC as a whole has made strides to unJUST themselves lately.
I can understand people's frustration with the fact that the DCU is being soft-rebooted again, but it's not just Gunn helming all of these. I'm willing to give the other directors a shot.
>but it's not just Gunn helming all of these
Can't forget that the director of THE FLASH is going to direct the new Batman movie. KEK.
Ok and? For the most part, people liked how he handled Keaton's Batman in the Flash.
The writing is the more important aspect so it's still anyone's guess what it'll be like.
I get the frustration, but for me I’m happy because so much of what came before was so worthless. I’m glad they’re wiping the slate clean and trying again.
>I’m glad they’re wiping the slate clean and trying again.
That’s fine. Keep what’s good, ignore what isn’t. That’s in keeping with DC anyway when they did the New 52, which reset their entire universe except for Batman and Green Lantern because those runs were selling well and were critically acclaimed and the writers wanted to continue. That’s fine.
>That’s fine. Keep what’s good, ignore what isn’t.
The cope. KEK.
RG, what exactly is the DC’s Cinemaphile future?
Why should you throw away the stuff that works? People liked his Suicide Squad and Peacemaker show. So fine, they still happened, but they change other stuff. That works for me.
>People liked his Suicide Squad and Peacemaker show.
Nobody watched, mate.
Literally who?
Okay I don’t care what the ratings were. The people who watched it seem to like it and so there’s no need to throw it out.
And why is there 2 suicide squads?
Because the first one was awful so they made a second one that was pretty good.
The first one made money without China's help and won an Oscar.
The second one was a huge bomb and lost 100 million plus for the studio.
Probably because all the people who saw the first Suicide Squad were scared to go back.
Cope.
What does DC stand for?
Detective Comics
Source
there was literally nothing about viola davis' portrayal that deserves a comeback
it was the blandest of bland sleepwalking through a badly written exposition piss nick fury wannabe
as shit and boring as jackson was with his default angry shouty Black shtick as pseudo nick fury, he was a bit more memorable
Viola Davis is a great actress. Amanda Waller is a 2-dimensional character graced by Davis' reprisal of that role. Amanda is improved by Davis if anything.
This. She gives it gravitas and presence, which is impressive considering how little there is to work with. Even when she has awful dialogue like in the first one or has to play straight against comedic bits like in the second, she's got the right screen presence.
>it was the blandest of bland sleepwalking
She was awful in the second one. Actors screaming and acting as buffoons isn't good acting.
The script makes everyone a buffoon, which included such total buffoonery dialogue as "If this whole beach was completely covered in dicks, and somebody said I had to eat every dick until the beach was clean for liberty, I would say no problemo!"
Honestly, both movies sucked in how they handled Waller.
The first one had somewhat the right tone and she carried herself well, but the plot has her being outwitted in the dumbest way by a witch she put on the mission.
The second one treated her as an incompetent buffoon right from the start with her own employees, a bunch of paper pushing nerds, dunking on her.
Yeah but the first one at least had ruthless waller shooting her staff to cover up
Like i said, the first movies had scenes with the right tone and with Davis carrying herself the way Waller would. The scene you mentioned, the post-credits bit with Ben Affleck, and so on.
Still the plot point of the movie makes the character fricking moronic beyond words.
I didn't remember particulars of tss but I remember she was in black adam and was bland as well
You said it was bland, now you're saying it's quality of acting. Moving the goal posts.
Also these are superhero films. Definitely not things that require a great deal from their actors.
I can't be blamed for not remembering those movies
that's the impression she left
anyway so your point is it WAS a carbon copy of jackson?
bleh
she is a great actress
the character and role were garbage and thus need to be flushed
there are other actresses
I think she’s a good actor, but I still feel like she’s wrong for Waller. Waller’s supposed to be an imposing figure, both in terms of bearing as well as stature. I don’t know if she’d have had the acting chops to do justice to the role, but someone like Leslie Jones would really be more appropriate, someone you could easily believe people would find physically imposing.
>I feel like DC as a whole has made strides to unJUST themselves lately.
This is still technically part of old-DC, as it was being made during this time, so no different than Shazam and Black Adam in that regard. The true unjusting won't come along until the Gunn-managed shows and films come into play.
>This is still technically part of old-DC
Produced by Peter Safran, the co-CEO of the soft-reboot.
Right, but it's not really a part of Gunn's plans as he announced them when he got involved with WB.
Doesn't matter.
The same producer that produced a string of flops featuring DC characters is now going to produce all the future DC movies. That doesn't sound good.
I was largely referring to their comic line which has improved drastically this year. They also came out with a new anime inspired Superman show that I think is really wonderful. As a whole, DC is doing a lot of good lately.
The comics still suck, m8.
DC fans are really just brain dead. I'm actually amazed by the brain rot.
You should watch it
that show is the gayest fricking thing since Birds of Prey. that show is ass. you are a manchild for enjoying that garbage. go back /mlp/
Black jimmy
No
Yikes, Spider-Man: Homecoming did $117M, the supposed competitor.
Cons!
> Not addressing the destruction.
> Execution of the tornado scene.
> Smashing the trucker's truck.
> Pa Kent not having enough positive/optimistic scenes.
> Pa Kent's "maybe" line.
> Clark accidentally taking Zod into Smallville.
Pro or Con depending on your subjective preferences!
> Killing Zod.
> Clark being genuinely conflicted about revealing himself to the public and the potential dire consequences of such.
> Fight scenes/battles are not short. IMO they are just the right length but some consider the final fight to have been overly long.
> No jokes breaking tension during the fight or life & death sequences.
Pros!
> Clark learning to fly + him stopping the world engine are universally praised scenes even among haters.
> Extremely well choreographed epic fight scenes.
> Simultaneously grounded in a realistic feeling earth but with a truly epic feel, scope & scale.
> Incredibly well crafted sets and outfits.
> Beautiful score.
> Flawless cast.
> Best, most competent, least overly emotional Lois Lane in the history of live action except MAYBE Durance.
> Zod is a great villain.
> Faora is iconic & sexy as frick.
> No homaging/copying/retreading the Donner films (aside from using zod)
> Fantastic Krypton opening.
> Some nice military porn without overdoing it or being "America frick yeah" like MBay.
> Inspiring despite the honest & slightly dour presentation of humanity being flawed. Scenes of the Daily Planet staff, the main solider & Toby from the West Wing being willing to sacrifice themselves are all well done.
this is NOT wonder woman lol
lmaaooooooo loL!!!!!11!!! ROFL!!
checkit
I just want brainiac
best I can do is Zack Snyder
It absolutely is grey, but of all things to call it, you go with bland? Filtered.
>We want that Cinemaphile audience
Best DC movie.
I hate superhero shit because it's always just something meant to lead into le infinite goyslop conveyor belt cinematic universe. Man of steel was actually nice to watch because it just felt like a modern standalone superman movie. I liked it.
Qanon brain rot in full display
>pointing out blatant shilling is LE CONSPIRACY
oh i guess you are right i shall be taking my meds now. carry on with your completely organic discussion talking about the same tired shit for the nth million time
Why did Jor El and Zod have a superpower fight during the beginning sequence of the film? Why did they stick to MMA and how did Jor El get killed by a single puncture wound? I thought they were all supposed to be stronger.
Go ahead, give the moron explanation.
They dont have superpowers because they're regular kryptonians still on krypton, they stuck to mma because zod disarmed jor's gun, as far as dying from a puncture wound, if you get stabbed your body muscles tense up from the shock,thats more the dramatization of killing blows than a realistic reaction.
Now post where the film explained any of that? How can anyone into capeshit when you need to read comics or be a meganerd to know this?
Literally the fricking opening when Jor is discussing with his wife the benefits of sending their son to Earth, or later on when Jor CGI ghost explains to Clark how his powers work.
How in the frick am i supposed to post a scene of the first 30 minutes of a movie establishing that a bunch of characters do not have superpowers?
???????
If the viewer truly has zero context going in then assuming these humanoid characters have no supernatural/spiritual/extraordinary abilities is the fricking default. especially considering that they display no supernatural abilities and shoot each other with guns and when losing them, fight back in hand to hand brawls.
Where in the frick was there any dialogue or scenes about how kryptonians have superpowers naturally on krypton, the very first setting in the movie?
Did you literally just make up shit that wasnt told to you while you were watching the movie? What the frick
Even Collider is missing Zack Snyder.
Bad example to include The Flash. He’s always been a very campy, jokey character. Look at his relationship with his Rogues gallery.
I agree with Black Adam and many of the others though.
Having Aquaman, Batman, and others constantly quipping is annoying.
The Flash run that just ended written by Jeremy Adams struck a perfect tone that was funny and lighthearted, but you could still take it seriously as a story.
Bloody benchod we are trying to make a living here go away
I've actually been creating Conan, Excalibur, and Kurosawa's films threads simple because there aren't any news about Rebel Moon and i am getting desperate for anything slightly connected to it.
But i am not a paid shill, though. Trust me. Cross my hearts.
The frick does Conan or Excalibur have to do with Rebel Moon?
>Excalibur
>Zack Snyder
Really, homosexual? That homie got butt-raped by his uncle while Excalibur was playing in the background and so that movie defined all his works past and future.
What does that have to do with Rebel Moon?
The characters in Rebel Moon are unironically based on King Arthur's knights.
Seems more Star Wars inspired to me
There can be multiple thematic and cultural inspirations behind a character you doofus
Essentially they're all based on Arthurian knights.
You even have the Holy Grail on the robot's chest piece.
Holy shit can you stop posting this moronic ass shit nobody gives a frick goddamnit
It's Zack Snyder's kino.
I give a frick. I have quotas to meet
>Conan, Excalibur, and Kurosawa's films
all kino btw, by all means continue
>Rebel Moon
well bud it aint gonna be kino if every strong male of Arthur's circle you've shown turns into a diversity b***h or some inanimate object that no male can identify with
the main concept of this diversity shit is the inability to relate with characters and the ones you do identify with they neuter and emasculate later in the story
Hey, man. I want to thank you for spazzing out about Rebel Moon. It made me search some news about the movie and got this. Great surprise.
What went wrong after Man of Steel? Currently rewatching it after seeing it in the theaters 2013.
I actually don't know. Pa Kent's death could've been done better, but aside from that, it's a pretty good Superman origin.
It was just DC trying to copy Marvel’s winning formula, but with a hacky auteur at the helm of the initial films, and then the studio interference in the following films destroyed whatever they would’ve been and made them soulless husks. James Gunn’s new version seems like a much better idea, to make movies based on specific comic book runs.
It's nothing like the MCU though
>James Gunn’s new version seems like a much better idea, to make movies based on specific comic book runs.
You're really a fool if you think Gunn will adapt any comic run.
I liked that he spelled out in his video what specific runs the upcoming films will be based on. Mostly very good stories that you couldn’t screw up that badly.
But in truth none of the movies will do that. It will be the same generic quipshit trash and the movies will just have some really superficial similarities.
Remember Civil War? And how that had nothing to do with the comic run?
I get the sense that DC is finally trying to do a different take on the MCU format rather than just trying to hotshot a shared universe of their own. Even still, it can’t possibly be worse than what came before.
Dude, you just need check James Gunn's previous work for DC, that will remain canon.
Or Peter Safran's work for DC, the guy who's co-CEO together with Gunn.
They're all the same generic quipshit trash.
Go check the news of the upcoming shows, cartoons, and movies. Every single news is about how hilarious the projects are.
>They're all the same generic quipshit trash.
Which is still better than anything else in this horrible franchise.
Yeah, sure.
>turning empty shazam theaters into brothels
Jesus christ the absolute state of WB
There should be lighthearted comedic films. They shouldn’t all be like that, but that should be part of it. DC for a long time has gotten this idea that everything has to be dark and edgy and they’re finally getting away from that. Their big relaunch of a bunch of their comic line this year was a step in the right direction. The comics can still be happy and uplifting without just being pure Twitter sarcasm in the dialogue. And sure there’s still some of that but a lot of the line now is actually really good. There should be a mix of more funny movies and more serious ones.
How can you think it’s okay to take DC’s identity of maturity and trash it for Chinese Marvel competition moron shit?
Dark and edgy hasn’t always been DC’s identity, and it shouldn’t always be. There has always been a mix of serious and lighthearted stories in the comics, and they can make movies will all different tones. I’m not a fan of Marvel quips generally but I think the Guardians movies did it the best of any of them. So if that’s what their funny movies will be like then I can’t complain. I do hope they make more serious ones as well. I imagine if they’re making a Swamp Thing movie they’ll have to take that one pretty seriously. I’m optimistic.
Ok, you are reasonable and therefore agreeable.
All the movies listed here were campy and quippy.
Peter Safran produced most of them.
James Gunn wrote and directed one of them.
They aren't going against the current trend.
Yes, I want more movies like those. But I also want Swamp Thing and they’re doing that too. What I don’t want is movies like the ones Zack Snyder makes.
Swamp Thing isn't going to be serious or dark, bro.
Not with Safran and Gunn. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
Not him but that's still speculation. Gunn's favorite movies are all predominantly serious, he was just given the task of the sillier Marvel and respectively DC characters.
From the sound of it so far, it doesn't seem like his Superman will put comedy first.
>Gunn's favorite movies are all predominantly serious, he was just given the task of the sillier Marvel
Dude, that's been Gunn's entire fricking career.
Yeah, because he comes from the Troma Film world. This is essentially what he has been taught to do, but he's at an age now where he can advance his output to something more critically acclaimed.
Superman 2025 will either make or break him as a director, but it's undeniably his biggest undertaking so far, both as a director and especially as a writer.
I think that even though the second Guardians movie was a very silly film, when that blue guy died it’s the most I’ve cared about a character in any of those movies. I think he could do a serious movie just fine.
I’m at least resting easy knowing it won’t be a Hack Snyder joint. But I like that the studio is being helmed now by someone who clearly cares about comic books and has some kind of vision. I don’t know if they’ll all be good, but I’m interested to see them and I’m looking forward to seeing what they’re able to do.
>But I like that the studio is being helmed now by someone who clearly cares about comic books and has some kind of vision.
The same James Gunn that likes to take less known characters so he can completely change them?
The same Gunn that used to make fricking of comic book fans and comic book characters?
TOP KEK.
But isnt MoS Nolen and Goyer's take? Snyder is only the merc that's supposed to make their vision work
Yes, Man of Steel was Goyer's baby, with some co-writing by Nolan because they created MoS while working on The Dark Knight Rises.
But after that everything else was old scripts WB execs had laying around. BvS was an old script that was even referenced in that Will Smith's I Am Legend movie. The JL script was something written by director that made a old timey mob movie starring Ryan Gosling.
I remember local from my city discussing the leaked BvS script in 2011 lol.
Explains a lot tbqh both movies have uncanny dialogue: 'Yes clark let the kids die, that's normal human behaviour'. 'Muh big guy for you! this is how normal people talk lol' .NO that's lizard people shit.
Nah bro that's deep
Agreed completely. Flick is a huge waste of time. Great effects and cast can't save what's just a bland, badly written mess. Don't waste your time with BvS. It's even worse, and prominently features one of the worst, most cringe inducing villain performances ever filmed with Lex Luthor.
I actually really like the last hour once Zod shows up. It's a shame the childhood section is such a mixed bag, blurry CGI Krypton is terrible and Lois searching for Superman is beyond terrible.
I just want no more multiverse stuff from now on. If James Gunn can promise me that I’ll be happy.
Cope, multiverse is the new hype.
I’ve rewatched Man of Steel more than any other superhero movie other than The Dark Knight.
There’s something so comfy and epic about it.
There’s only a few things that bother me about it.
>Clark Kent leaves town, hitchhikes across the country from like 18-33
>Taking 15 years to find himself when his brain processing speed is much higher than normal people. Not only is his IQ much higher, but he can operate at super speed.
>Theoretically, the experienced 15 years of gallivanting across the country was even longer from his perspective because of his powers.
>He never tries to advance his powers or do anything with them until the oil rig explosions. Why isn’t he trying out his super speed and jumping around and stuff?
>When Jor-El (AI version of him) talks to him, he doesn’t explain that he has the power of flight or any of his other theoretical powers under yellow sunlight, but Clark goes outside right after the pep talk and immediately tries to fly. They could have added a few lines of dialogue to flesh it out. The explanation could be that Clark never flew before because he didn’t know it was possible.
>Zod gets used to his super senses within 30 seconds.
>Zod is able to fly as soon as he breaks his armor, yet it takes Clark 33 years to figure it out.
>Zod has equal strength to Clark even though he hasn’t been absorbing yellow sun for 33 years and he doesn’t have the codex
>The Codex is supposed to make Clark the best possible Kryptonian, but he gets smacked around by every single kryptonian
>He never tries to advance his powers or do anything with them until the oil rig explosions. Why isn’t he trying out his super speed and jumping around and stuff?
something about seeing his dad choosing to die in a tornado to emphasize clark to not use his powers probably had something to do with a reluctance to use his powers, idk though
>>Zod gets used to his super senses within 30 seconds.
The brain is surprisingly resilient at adapting to sensory overload
>>Zod is able to fly as soon as he breaks his armor, yet it takes Clark 33 years to figure it out.
perfecting movement you made from scratch and perfecting movement you've seen someone else do are two different speeds.
If someone puts you in a wingsuit right this second, you'd fall like a rock. But if you see a wingsuit instructor do proper launch protocol and how they spread the suit and adapt and keep afloat, you'd have a better chance.
>>Zod has equal strength to Clark even though he hasn’t been absorbing yellow sun for 33 years and he doesn’t have the codex
Kryptonians absorb sunlight like a shamwow. Flashpoint superman managed to shoot lasers after a seconds of sunlight. Zod is literally genetically engineered to be physically strong as a soldier. The codex doesnt do anything, its literally just old kryptonian dna that will be passed on through clark's balls.
>Be an adult
>Read comic books
post on Cinemaphile too
>be an adult
>post frogs on a hentai basket weaving forum
Die
I love this film
Russell Crowe’s scenes are the only worthwhile reason to watch the film.
I rewatch MoS, BvS, and ZSJL at least once or twice a year with an urge to rewatch them even more often than that. I don't do this regarding any other films.
dont bother, anon. these people don't care about syncerity or sentimentality
SIRS? OUR RESPONSE??!
RELEASE THE BENCHOD CUT
>getting into capeshit right as it is going the way of the Western
It's not as bad as everyone says. It's fine.
Has some decent DBZ action though
GOOOD MORNING SIRS
Oh look, OP BEING GAY!
I am shocked I tell you, shocked!
>i started reading comics
any comic post-2010 doesnt count. not the same industry. also OP and anyone who agrees with him has shit superficial taste and the only arguments you gays use have been proven objectively false hundreds of times in the last decade